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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:04 GMT
#2441
On March 24 2018 23:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 22:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:52 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Coag has been tried to convince that in scum qt earlier and it didn't work.

I agree that the above thing is something a townie would say, but i kind of disagree it makes noobking townier because of how he looks at things and here he seems to be working completely differently than for example with his stuff on Tictock.

That being said i also think Tictock looks way better for his latest posts.


If I can keep focused long enough, I need to double check HF's reasons for wanting TT dead. I do remember something about TT defending mocsta before reading or something, but it's hazy. I definitely don't think his post at the start of today was weird at all.

Yeah, that was the other thought. The timing on noob pushing that.

I'm just going to do that now while it's still fresh and then maybe try to sleep this off.

And, really, I feel like TT and disinfo have been some of the people most actively digging this day phase. TT you could argue is on the chopping block, so it's not as alignment indicative for him. But yeah.

What does that mean?


The headache @.@. It's not quite at nauseous level but it's getting there.

No i mean are you planning to follow up on D2 or not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:07 GMT
#2442
I thought i had good points on FF (aka being able to read him) but then there was the game where he was mafia with Grackaroni and someone else and after the game i realized he does those things as mafia just as likely than as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:08 GMT
#2443
I am gonna take a small break and then look into those three people before people arrive here.
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 14:08 GMT
#2444
I actually like the effort from noob at the end of pg 120.

Couple of pretty solid posts.
I can take that responsibility.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 14:09 GMT
#2445
On March 23 2018 07:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Read my case yo. You missed out the parts where mocsta says noobking looks better but then says he's scummy a few posts later but then repeats he looks better again when everyone unvoted him.


Have not read your case, but since when is changing ones mind a scummy thing to do?

Pretty sure that is much more likely to come from town.

I’m realizing that I am probably defending Mocsta more than I should, but I am starting to suspect HF is scum. The last time I saw him have a narrow and unwavering focus like this he was scum.

Noting this to remind myself to look into it later.


Oh, this. Yeah, I don't think this makes TT scum, either lol >< It also has the benefit of being correct. Not regarding mocsta's alignment, but regarding reads changing.

I was really getting the impression that HF was CONVINCED mocsta was scum, and thus getting all suspicious of anyone and everyone who didn't want to lynch mocsta with him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:10 GMT
#2446
One thing though. Tell me how am i supposed to work with darthfoley? I try aggressive, it's a shitfest, i try calm and nice, he doesn't do shit.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 24 2018 14:10 GMT
#2447
On March 24 2018 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another problem i have is that no matter how much i would like to lynch noobking here i don't think that's the best option here. Because the thread sentiment suggests that either:
1) noobking is mafia with lurkers
2) mafia doesn't care about what's happening -- aka mafia are lurkers

That is, if i am in fact correct and tictock isn't mafia after all.

Whats so bad about option 1


Totally lines up with my reads this game
Pretty much everyone is town
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2018 14:10 GMT
#2448
headaches suck. get better/well soon.
On March 24 2018 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another problem i have is that no matter how much i would like to lynch noobking here i don't think that's the best option here. Because the thread sentiment suggests that either:
1) noobking is mafia with lurkers
2) mafia doesn't care about what's happening -- aka mafia are lurkers

That is, if i am in fact correct and tictock isn't mafia after all.

this is true.
not sure if I quite get which lynch you are proposing over nk?

lynching into the afks/lurkers feel quite hit or miss to me... though we probably should deal with them at some point. so far it doesn't seem like they are super likely to get productive soon.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 14:10 GMT
#2449
On March 24 2018 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:04 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:52 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Coag has been tried to convince that in scum qt earlier and it didn't work.

I agree that the above thing is something a townie would say, but i kind of disagree it makes noobking townier because of how he looks at things and here he seems to be working completely differently than for example with his stuff on Tictock.

That being said i also think Tictock looks way better for his latest posts.


If I can keep focused long enough, I need to double check HF's reasons for wanting TT dead. I do remember something about TT defending mocsta before reading or something, but it's hazy. I definitely don't think his post at the start of today was weird at all.

Yeah, that was the other thought. The timing on noob pushing that.

I'm just going to do that now while it's still fresh and then maybe try to sleep this off.

And, really, I feel like TT and disinfo have been some of the people most actively digging this day phase. TT you could argue is on the chopping block, so it's not as alignment indicative for him. But yeah.

What does that mean?


The headache @.@. It's not quite at nauseous level but it's getting there.

No i mean are you planning to follow up on D2 or not?


Of course? I plan on diving KSC now, and I'll be back later. Sorry, I was referring to a nap not sleeping the whole afternoon/evening away.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 24 2018 14:12 GMT
#2450
On March 24 2018 23:10 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another problem i have is that no matter how much i would like to lynch noobking here i don't think that's the best option here. Because the thread sentiment suggests that either:
1) noobking is mafia with lurkers
2) mafia doesn't care about what's happening -- aka mafia are lurkers

That is, if i am in fact correct and tictock isn't mafia after all.

Whats so bad about option 1


Totally lines up with my reads this game
Pretty much everyone is town

true as well. don't have any real strong scum reads outside of nk atm to be honest.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 24 2018 14:13 GMT
#2451
On March 24 2018 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also noobking wants to lynch lurkers so THAT ACTUALLY looks a bit better to him, except for the Palmar "case".

Lol

Seems happy with the lurkers voting his scum read...

Like i get it. Itchy feet.
Always happens with an early bandwagon

Stay the course. N00b is lynch today.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 24 2018 14:15 GMT
#2452
On March 24 2018 23:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another problem i have is that no matter how much i would like to lynch noobking here i don't think that's the best option here. Because the thread sentiment suggests that either:
1) noobking is mafia with lurkers
2) mafia doesn't care about what's happening -- aka mafia are lurkers

That is, if i am in fact correct and tictock isn't mafia after all.


You're not supposed to say this before he answers my questions ;o;

He will still fuck up if he is mafia.


True. And if he's town, I like how he thinks with that poke into Palmar. Worth keeping around.

I think here is where we disagree.


Lol, if this game has proven anything, it's that I'm at least a bit narcissistic; oooh he looked at something the way I would have! -snorts-

Between that and Rels and pouting over HF and ExO (and conv though I think it's okay if I say that I want to still believe there's a chance he's scum so that I didn't fuck that up too bad), my ego is getting entirely too much in my way this game.

FF/ykl/ksc I guess is where your head's out regarding afkers? Need to reread ksc. Ykl I think...god in a vacuum his behavior since D1 looks scummy. Factoring in that he's a newbie and this is a 20-player game I think reduces that to a coin flip.

And I have no clue how to read FF. Damdred's the one who seems to have that nailed and I was content to let him do that, since I usually have no trouble with Damdred's alignment. I want to avoid the same trap of 'no way am I the one person you want to lynch' trap that I fell into with Rels. But I still do find it strange that he's like 'rsoul scum' then 'but i could sheep onto the wagon that my one scumread is on'.

Should do a proper filter dive for KSC, though.
yes
More diving.
Less pontificating about people not even in this game.

Like im too lazy to play this cycle so trying not to add waste to my filter

Yoy should try it
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 14:18 GMT
#2453
On March 24 2018 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
One thing though. Tell me how am i supposed to work with darthfoley? I try aggressive, it's a shitfest, i try calm and nice, he doesn't do shit.


Nh. Yeah I don't really have an answer to this. Townread him last game for what he was posting D1 mostly, and I don't find him hard to work with. Enjoyable even. But he still fucked off and did shit all so -shrugs-

Well, I mean the easy answer is to say he could be scum. It's like beetlejuice. He suddenly appears! But I don't know how that helps you work with him if you think he's town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 14:19 GMT
#2454
On March 24 2018 23:15 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:03 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another problem i have is that no matter how much i would like to lynch noobking here i don't think that's the best option here. Because the thread sentiment suggests that either:
1) noobking is mafia with lurkers
2) mafia doesn't care about what's happening -- aka mafia are lurkers

That is, if i am in fact correct and tictock isn't mafia after all.


You're not supposed to say this before he answers my questions ;o;

He will still fuck up if he is mafia.


True. And if he's town, I like how he thinks with that poke into Palmar. Worth keeping around.

I think here is where we disagree.


Lol, if this game has proven anything, it's that I'm at least a bit narcissistic; oooh he looked at something the way I would have! -snorts-

Between that and Rels and pouting over HF and ExO (and conv though I think it's okay if I say that I want to still believe there's a chance he's scum so that I didn't fuck that up too bad), my ego is getting entirely too much in my way this game.

FF/ykl/ksc I guess is where your head's out regarding afkers? Need to reread ksc. Ykl I think...god in a vacuum his behavior since D1 looks scummy. Factoring in that he's a newbie and this is a 20-player game I think reduces that to a coin flip.

And I have no clue how to read FF. Damdred's the one who seems to have that nailed and I was content to let him do that, since I usually have no trouble with Damdred's alignment. I want to avoid the same trap of 'no way am I the one person you want to lynch' trap that I fell into with Rels. But I still do find it strange that he's like 'rsoul scum' then 'but i could sheep onto the wagon that my one scumread is on'.

Should do a proper filter dive for KSC, though.
yes
More diving.
Less pontificating about people not even in this game.

Like im too lazy to play this cycle so trying not to add waste to my filter

Yoy should try it

Why so mean? It's not like that was the only thing that post was about?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 24 2018 14:22 GMT
#2455
Darthfoley is a real question mark for me

Hes consistently delurking only to respond about himself

I associate his town play as very independent thinking but also resolute in campaigning. Which is a bit unusual.

I raise this because i find him too passive this game; yet is more than happy to add post count duking it with rayn.

Saying this outloud.
Df is my alternate lynch choice to n00bking thid game.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 24 2018 14:24 GMT
#2456
On March 24 2018 23:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:15 Mocsta wrote:
On March 24 2018 23:03 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:56 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:53 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another problem i have is that no matter how much i would like to lynch noobking here i don't think that's the best option here. Because the thread sentiment suggests that either:
1) noobking is mafia with lurkers
2) mafia doesn't care about what's happening -- aka mafia are lurkers

That is, if i am in fact correct and tictock isn't mafia after all.


You're not supposed to say this before he answers my questions ;o;

He will still fuck up if he is mafia.


True. And if he's town, I like how he thinks with that poke into Palmar. Worth keeping around.

I think here is where we disagree.


Lol, if this game has proven anything, it's that I'm at least a bit narcissistic; oooh he looked at something the way I would have! -snorts-

Between that and Rels and pouting over HF and ExO (and conv though I think it's okay if I say that I want to still believe there's a chance he's scum so that I didn't fuck that up too bad), my ego is getting entirely too much in my way this game.

FF/ykl/ksc I guess is where your head's out regarding afkers? Need to reread ksc. Ykl I think...god in a vacuum his behavior since D1 looks scummy. Factoring in that he's a newbie and this is a 20-player game I think reduces that to a coin flip.

And I have no clue how to read FF. Damdred's the one who seems to have that nailed and I was content to let him do that, since I usually have no trouble with Damdred's alignment. I want to avoid the same trap of 'no way am I the one person you want to lynch' trap that I fell into with Rels. But I still do find it strange that he's like 'rsoul scum' then 'but i could sheep onto the wagon that my one scumread is on'.

Should do a proper filter dive for KSC, though.
yes
More diving.
Less pontificating about people not even in this game.

Like im too lazy to play this cycle so trying not to add waste to my filter

Yoy should try it

Why so mean? It's not like that was the only thing that post was about?
sorry. Came out meaner than i had intended.

Still valid though
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:26 GMT
#2457
The problem i find with df is what Mocsta said jsut above. Also another thing is that when he justifies the things he does in the game it is more like he is following a narrative than trying to find mafia. I found it completely irrational he "scumread" me and rsoultin (which he said he didn't and then said he did and then he didn't again) for non-existent reasons, basically his only reason was "i am going against the thread sentiment" which he used as a narrative to scumread us. I don't know what that is called in english, circle theory?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:27 GMT
#2458
Like he created a narrative, scumread (at least) me for it and then said he is town because he isn't doing what i am doing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:28 GMT
#2459
And this was the "big names list" which i am btw still keeping track of.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2018 14:29 GMT
#2460
Anyways now i am actually off for a while before looking into ykl ff and kelsier.
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