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##vote n00bKing
For somebody who put in effort you are not where the other people are who are putting in effort. You are not where rsoultin, Mocsta, Vivax or HF are. You made a post with 3 scumreads and I didnt feel excited about a single one.
Mistakes were made yesterday.
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On March 23 2018 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 19:08 darthfoley wrote:
Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside. I see, i should be aggressive towards my townreads. Noted. The rest is also bs. Apparently you haven't seen me playing lately.
You're usually aggressive with everyone.
lol everything anyone says about you ever is BS just because you disagree.
And then if I die and flip town you will blame me for not being townier even though you refused to see it. Cannot wait
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Day 2 Vote Count
Tictock [3]: MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, n00bking
n00bking [3]: Palmar, Mocsta, Koshi
rsoultin[0]: Mocsta
Mocsta [0]: Fecalfeast
Not Voting [10]: Alakaslam, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, KelsierSC, ykl, darthfoley, disformation, Tictock, Coagulation, Conversion
Tictock is currently the lynch.
The deadline is Saturday, Mar 24 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM.
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On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care. On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up* Good post. I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore. This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value. I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case. So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing. I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game. Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:To clarify to slower than normal people: a) rayn's point is very good. This post here: On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. Nervous about something? Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you? "Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so. On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead. "Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?" Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it. Then in the post about me:
s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.
He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played: On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here. On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.
His filter is basically empty. Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization. So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant. The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly. This is actually a great case  Oh and this part: That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game. I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class". We're killing noobking today. I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him. Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1. I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.
Yes, this is a good point and I will probably sheep it. It would make his arrogant "I'm the best post" even sweeter
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On March 23 2018 14:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 20:50 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2018 20:27 Palmar wrote:So here's the argument as I understood it (I'm ignoring some early parts): 1) Exo claims hf is "not blue" 2) Ticktock votes Exo for this, claiming he doesn't believe exo has such a read (I agree, that's a stupid read) 3) noobking makes the claim that exo's read makes no sense from either perspective (aka, not really relevant) This is where I get confused. You respond with this hf: On March 20 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
[red]Not really true. Mafia want to post anything they can under the guise of scum hunting. Posting that I'm not a role isn't helping mafia in ANY way, it doesn't further any kind of scum read since I'm vt or mafia and it's just a completely empty read with nothing said. Good scum read. In which you sound like you disagree with noobking (red) and then agree with him (green). Then you say "good scum read", when I don't really see him scumreading anyone, or is that referring to someone else? what am I missing? Ticktock says makes exo mafia for irrelevant post. I agreed with ticktock. Noobking says it doesn't make him mafia, in fact it makes him more likely TOWN because "it doesn't help mafia to post like that". I disagree with his premise that it makes exo town. I still agree with ticktock that it makes exo more likely mafia. It's an irrelevant post that has no real reason to post it for. It looks like he's scum hunting by posting a read but it's not actually a read. [red]Then noobking argues with me that it doesn't try and look like scum hunting instead of anything to do with exo's motivation for posting in the first place. Drawn down to semantics. Perhaps not semantics.. rather, TMI
Rather...perhaps I was just RIGHT? And Holyflare was WRONG. And Tictock was either wrong or scum. Yeah...that makes for an extremely simple explanation of things, in place of "TMI."
But hey, if you want to claim "TMI" for my townread and defense of Exo, then you don't need to stop there. Keep digging in my filter, and I promise you'll find moooorrrre of it, because Exo was one of my Top 2 townreads in the whole friggin' game.
If the original town indicator wasn't enough for others, I have no idea why they still wouldn't decide he was Town after the most convincing continuous string of dumbtown posts I may ever have seen. Page after page, he had me chuckling through a facepalm, and eventually rsoul got so fed up with him that she (while saying she didn't think he was scum) made a post that essentially read like "I don't want to tell you that you're an idiot who can't read....BUT...."
I felt a little bit bad for her, but mostly I felt bad for Vivax, if Vivax was scum, and Exo was the guy he was going to try and push, that day. Because Exo's posting I felt made him a million percent lynchproof. It would have been doubly bad for scum Vivax because multiple players were saying that Exo and Kelsier (the other guy Vivax was pushing) appeared to be the same alignment. Such that Exo accidentally tripping and falling into a vat of neon green paint was going to render Vivax's other target lynchproof as well. Alas, Vivax was Town, so all this potential hilarity was for naught.
Anyway, you acted bummed that your top townread (Vivax) was killed last night. I'm pretty much in that same boat...thanks to YOU. So if you're a Town vigilante, then you're one in the hole, with that shot. Try not to get yourself two in the hole by contributing to my mislynch today. How can I help you keep from doing that?
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On March 23 2018 19:17 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care. On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up* Good post. I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore. This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value. I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case. So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing. I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game. On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:To clarify to slower than normal people: a) rayn's point is very good. This post here: On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. Nervous about something? Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you? "Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so. On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead. "Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?" Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it. Then in the post about me:
s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.
He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played: On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here. On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.
His filter is basically empty. Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization. So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant. The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly. This is actually a great case Oh and this part: That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game. I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class". We're killing noobking today. I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him. Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1. I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking. Yes, this is a good point and I will probably sheep it. It would make his arrogant "I'm the best post" even sweeter
The ironyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
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On March 23 2018 13:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
You know I completely forgot noobking was in this game. Not a good sign
This is also a feeling I had after n00bking made that arrogant "I'm the best player to walk the earth" post. That's the last thing I remember him doing, saying, or believing.
I hesistate comparing this game to last game too much because last game was themed and very hard for mafia. But n00bjing had a strong D1 last game and a semi strong D1 this game (at least in terms of activity). I also agreed with HF/Mocsta's assessment of him early.
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On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><
I provided 3 meaningful discussion points? Maybe discuss them? ONE person has made ONE comment on ONE of the 3 of them.
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On March 23 2018 16:55 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I don't disagree on nk, mocsta. I expected some night action analysis given his perception of how the game should be played and there wasn't any that i noticed?
As for conversion...he feels different than the game I was scum in. Like wasn't he trying to be a new and better conversion? Don't see that here at all.
This is something I agree with. In that game he felt like he was being bold for reasons. He was saying "fuck you, this is what I think" and explaining stuff. This game feels more like "fuck you, just because."
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On March 23 2018 19:22 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><
I provided 3 meaningful discussion points? Maybe discuss them? ONE person has made ONE comment on ONE of the 3 of them.
No you didn't, especially when you vote off of those three people. I don't even know if you scumread any of them or not and if you do why is your vote on Tictock instead if you want them discussed?
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On March 23 2018 19:22 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><
I provided 3 meaningful discussion points? Maybe discuss them? ONE person has made ONE comment on ONE of the 3 of them.
Can you TL;dr them
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On March 23 2018 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><
I can tell you about this mafia god town play. Gets poceted super hard by 2/3 mafia D1. Tunnels one of the only two people who try to lynch mafia in the game. Gets lynched D1.
Hahahaha. As I mentioned before, I have only been lynched D1 ONE time, in all my years of playing these games. ONE.
In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.
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On March 23 2018 14:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
@darth second question, regarding the point I made earlier on that ticktock just reposted. Why did you leave exo off town list ? Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
I left ExO the town list because my opinion of him decreased This marks one of the first times DF breaks from roleplay and its important. Like, what DF writes is technically consistent with the below: however, in context of Kelsier point, its total bullshit. + Show Spoiler [Kelsier good point] +On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen. yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided. In terms of actual bad stuff. He liked a post that exo had made which wasn't that good. Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 08:27 darthfoley wrote:On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.
But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.
Scum leaning on you for this reason. Looks like this chap 'ere as a 'ead on his shoulders I can understand exo's defence of this post but I don't like the post in general. he also leaves exo off his list of town afterwards Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 12:45 darthfoley wrote:
Chester Campbell believes he dun found some good folk to confide in as he rids the streets of petty 'n big boss crime.
The likes of Vivax, Alakaslam Mocsta and Conversion seem like good blokes, eager to help the coppers
Chester is keeping a wary eye out for any bad hombres gives the impression that he doesn't really care who his town circle is and just wants to throw some names out. I'd lynch him and not just to stop the terrible RP. Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 03:26 darthfoley wrote:
I think HF and Vivax are probably town. ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.
I'm voting Kelscier partially because he's been the least enjoyable player so far, and partially because I think ExO made a fairly decent point that I agree with about Kelscier's vote on disformation.
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I'm not sure why you're seeing but if you've played within ExO before you'd understand that he is truly lynchbait territory no matter what every game.
I had a few feelings that he was Town lynchbait, given we agreed on a couple reads. But I didn't have the confidence in townreading him that I had for HF/Vivax... so I didn't include him.
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On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.
wrong. you also voted for me. you also tunneled me all D1 when i was doing nothing but trying to lynch mafia1 and mafia2. It was your fault you were mislynched because you were so bad and you would have never lynched any mafia in that game regardless of where your votes were.
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On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote:
NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><
I can tell you about this mafia god town play. Gets poceted super hard by 2/3 mafia D1. Tunnels one of the only two people who try to lynch mafia in the game. Gets lynched D1. Hahahaha. As I mentioned before, I have only been lynched D1 ONE time, in all my years of playing these games. ONE. In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.
I appreciate the caps lock frequency. It really screams "I'm secure about my ability as a player."
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On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care. On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up* Good post. I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore. This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value. I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case. So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing. I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game. Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:To clarify to slower than normal people: a) rayn's point is very good. This post here: On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. Nervous about something? Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you? "Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so. On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead. "Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?" Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it. Then in the post about me:
s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.
He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played: On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here. On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.
His filter is basically empty. Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization. So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant. The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly. This is actually a great case Oh and this part: That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game. I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class". We're killing noobking today. I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him. Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1. I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.
Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.
"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.
He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.
Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"
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Okay it's now 6:30AM and I need to get out of my warm, comfy bed. Ugh. I'll be back much much later
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On March 23 2018 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 19:26 n00bKing wrote:
In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.
wrong. you also voted for me. you also tunneled me all D1 when i was doing nothing but trying to lynch mafia1 and mafia2. It was your fault you were mislynched because you were so bad and you would have never lynched any mafia in that game regardless of where your votes were.
In the next game as mafia you decided it's a good plan to roleblock yourself to give town another mislynch as last mafia alive immediately losing you the game so sorry i have a really hard time seeing you being a world class mafia player.
Now talk about something that is not your ego.
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On March 23 2018 18:23 ykl wrote:
Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track
What would lead you to this assumption?
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On March 23 2018 19:33 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 18:17 Palmar wrote:On March 22 2018 07:29 Palmar wrote:On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote:On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote:
I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote:
Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care. On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote:
*thumbs up* Good post. I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore. This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value. I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case. So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing. I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game. On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote:To clarify to slower than normal people: a) rayn's point is very good. This post here: On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. Nervous about something? Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you? "Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so. On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead. "Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?" Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it. Then in the post about me:
s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.
He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played: On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote:
This is actually kinda slam dunk here. On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote:
I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.
His filter is basically empty. Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization. So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant. The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly. This is actually a great case Oh and this part: That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game. I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class". We're killing noobking today. I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him. Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1. I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking. Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare. "HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1. Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people. He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you. Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"
Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."
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