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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 07:45 GMT
#661
I'm still healing df with the other 2 medics.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 07:47 GMT
#662
On March 08 2018 16:45 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still healing df with the other 2 medics.


You may be right. I don't think so, but then I'm hardly infallible.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 07:51 GMT
#663
3 medic stacks is obviously the ideal world and we should make everyone else stack on prplhz or someone but I will be on df. Either mafia kill him by stacking with me or his mafia likelihood rockets. I'm willing to take that gamble.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 08 2018 07:53 GMT
#664
On March 08 2018 15:42 rsoultin wrote:
@Moosy, I'm not sure why I'm suddenly top town to you? I effectively forced a tube lynch with my vote, and I'm really not at all sure that prp is town. Nor do i recall you townreading him?

Vivax said some interesting things and Tubesock's flip is making me redraw my town list. I am not townreading prp and I don't think I've said that? Unless I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to ask with your last question. rn the only greens I'm actually feeling are vivax and you. I need to look into noobking, AMG, holy, and darthfoley again and the whole start of the tubesock shit.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 08:13 GMT
#665
On March 08 2018 16:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 15:42 rsoultin wrote:
@Moosy, I'm not sure why I'm suddenly top town to you? I effectively forced a tube lynch with my vote, and I'm really not at all sure that prp is town. Nor do i recall you townreading him?

Vivax said some interesting things and Tubesock's flip is making me redraw my town list. I am not townreading prp and I don't think I've said that? Unless I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to ask with your last question. rn the only greens I'm actually feeling are vivax and you. I need to look into noobking, AMG, holy, and darthfoley again and the whole start of the tubesock shit.


What I'm saying is I forced a town lynch with my vote, and unless you thought the counterwagons are town as well I don't understand why I'm now town to you?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 08 2018 08:27 GMT
#666
On March 08 2018 17:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 16:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 08 2018 15:42 rsoultin wrote:
@Moosy, I'm not sure why I'm suddenly top town to you? I effectively forced a tube lynch with my vote, and I'm really not at all sure that prp is town. Nor do i recall you townreading him?

Vivax said some interesting things and Tubesock's flip is making me redraw my town list. I am not townreading prp and I don't think I've said that? Unless I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to ask with your last question. rn the only greens I'm actually feeling are vivax and you. I need to look into noobking, AMG, holy, and darthfoley again and the whole start of the tubesock shit.


What I'm saying is I forced a town lynch with my vote, and unless you thought the counterwagons are town as well I don't understand why I'm now town to you?

I've looked through your filter at least 10 times at this point. Also as the game's gone on your thought process has become a lot more like mine. As for wagons and such, it's why I said I need to look again at the specific people that I listed.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 08:29 GMT
#667
DF's read progression on me:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.


I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.


Fair. Damdred lynching time then?

Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him.


Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG?


On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
Okay i've caught up.

AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"

Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.


On March 07 2018 05:14 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.


I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.


Fair. Damdred lynching time then?

Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him.


Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG?


Pardon?


You made a post about how n00bking is 10000% not in your lynch pool ATM. But you seem to be heavily town reading AMG too, so I'm just confused why he wasn't part of this unlynchable pool. It's a minor inconsistency that I'm just confused about


On March 07 2018 05:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.


I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.


Fair. Damdred lynching time then?

Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him.


Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG?


Pardon?


Oh, I guess awarding him a cookie when I first came in thread and calling him the smexiest wasn't as obvious as I should be. AMG was and remains my top townread, with the only caveat being I've never played with him before that I recall.

Just so you're aware, cookie = townread. Thus I am also now townreading Damdy.


On March 07 2018 07:24 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
Anyway.

TLDR
- organic reads from Damdred in line with a normal D1 for him, plus easy tone earns him a cookie
- DF just being a boss and poking into good corners, while responding in a way to a scumread that doesn't resemble my impression of his scum play outweighs any meh feels about his afking earlier

Hopefully that clears things up for you. I think you're probably even more likely town for your read on me (sadly), so carry on.


I'm not voting on rsoultin today I think. Tonally town and again I think her reason to townread me makes sense based off of our short playing history etc.

I'm just not seeing what Moosy is. I'm gonna look at his filter later.


On March 07 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:
Like I can see myself having a similar weak scum read on someone who did what I did. At least to stir the pot a bit cuz at the time she made that read, the thread was a "poop on tubesock" fest iirc


On March 07 2018 07:27 darthfoley wrote:
n00b/rsoultin/AMG/Damdred is my town list ATM


I don't see this as 'he just called rsoul town several times and asked irrelevant questions' (the fourth quote was my response to his question to contextualize it).

That to me reads like noticing something odd while catching up, a very light maybe townread once caught up, then that townread solidifies after my answering his question and responding to moosy about my reads. Also, the second-to-last quote indicates he's thinking about whether what I was scumreading him for makes sense from a town perspective, which I think is a normal reaction to being scumread by someone (i.e. being more interested in their alignment). Followed by an updated town list.

There is nothing about that read progression that strikes me as unnatural and I'm not sure why HF is reading it differently.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 08:30 GMT
#668
On March 08 2018 17:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 17:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 16:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 08 2018 15:42 rsoultin wrote:
@Moosy, I'm not sure why I'm suddenly top town to you? I effectively forced a tube lynch with my vote, and I'm really not at all sure that prp is town. Nor do i recall you townreading him?

Vivax said some interesting things and Tubesock's flip is making me redraw my town list. I am not townreading prp and I don't think I've said that? Unless I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to ask with your last question. rn the only greens I'm actually feeling are vivax and you. I need to look into noobking, AMG, holy, and darthfoley again and the whole start of the tubesock shit.


What I'm saying is I forced a town lynch with my vote, and unless you thought the counterwagons are town as well I don't understand why I'm now town to you?

I've looked through your filter at least 10 times at this point. Also as the game's gone on your thought process has become a lot more like mine. As for wagons and such, it's why I said I need to look again at the specific people that I listed.


I thought it might be that given your EoD posting and your initial reason for scumreading me in the first place, but didn't want to assume. Okay.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 08 2018 08:34 GMT
#669
Alakaslam has replaced chaoser.

As a reminder, please do not discuss replacements.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2018 08:35 GMT
#670
I CAN POST!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2018 08:35 GMT
#671
Phuk it’s 1234
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2018 08:35 GMT
#672
I need to sleep, noobking is scum, cyall
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 08:36 GMT
#673
On March 08 2018 17:29 rsoultin wrote:
DF's read progression on me:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.


I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.


Fair. Damdred lynching time then?

Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him.


Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG?


On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
Okay i've caught up.

AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"

Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.


On March 07 2018 05:14 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.


I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.


Fair. Damdred lynching time then?

Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him.


Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG?


Pardon?


You made a post about how n00bking is 10000% not in your lynch pool ATM. But you seem to be heavily town reading AMG too, so I'm just confused why he wasn't part of this unlynchable pool. It's a minor inconsistency that I'm just confused about


On March 07 2018 05:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.


I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.


Fair. Damdred lynching time then?

Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him.


Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG?


Pardon?


Oh, I guess awarding him a cookie when I first came in thread and calling him the smexiest wasn't as obvious as I should be. AMG was and remains my top townread, with the only caveat being I've never played with him before that I recall.

Just so you're aware, cookie = townread. Thus I am also now townreading Damdy.


On March 07 2018 07:24 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
Anyway.

TLDR
- organic reads from Damdred in line with a normal D1 for him, plus easy tone earns him a cookie
- DF just being a boss and poking into good corners, while responding in a way to a scumread that doesn't resemble my impression of his scum play outweighs any meh feels about his afking earlier

Hopefully that clears things up for you. I think you're probably even more likely town for your read on me (sadly), so carry on.


I'm not voting on rsoultin today I think. Tonally town and again I think her reason to townread me makes sense based off of our short playing history etc.

I'm just not seeing what Moosy is. I'm gonna look at his filter later.


On March 07 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:
Like I can see myself having a similar weak scum read on someone who did what I did. At least to stir the pot a bit cuz at the time she made that read, the thread was a "poop on tubesock" fest iirc


On March 07 2018 07:27 darthfoley wrote:
n00b/rsoultin/AMG/Damdred is my town list ATM


I don't see this as 'he just called rsoul town several times and asked irrelevant questions' (the fourth quote was my response to his question to contextualize it).

That to me reads like noticing something odd while catching up, a very light maybe townread once caught up, then that townread solidifies after my answering his question and responding to moosy about my reads. Also, the second-to-last quote indicates he's thinking about whether what I was scumreading him for makes sense from a town perspective, which I think is a normal reaction to being scumread by someone (i.e. being more interested in their alignment). Followed by an updated town list.

There is nothing about that read progression that strikes me as unnatural and I'm not sure why HF is reading it differently.


You and I are reading different games then. He asks you a question about an irrelevant inconsistency. What does be gain from knowing you town read both? If you were mafia why does this inconsistency occur etc. It's irrelevant. Before you even answer he's throwing you a town read for thought process on tube. Then when you throw him a town read he buddies you and says that's what he'd expect. The town read wasn't even big or good from you to him. Its an overblown reactionary reason to call you town.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2018 08:36 GMT
#674
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 08 2018 08:37 GMT
#675
Only to sleep I work tomorrow holy shit that was a wait now I will be all antsy at work and no one will know why
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2018 08:47 GMT
#676
It's not even just the fact he has those posts it's that that is what he chose to base like 33% of his filter on instead of scum reads.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 09:07 GMT
#677
On March 08 2018 08:56 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 08:14 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 08:03 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I thought we got him considering he was lurking at deadline


Yeah...

I'm actually warming up to Vivax's AMG read more.

On March 08 2018 07:16 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 06:56 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 06:03 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Follow up by AMG looks better at glance given he sticks his head in many different places and generally gives off a vibe of wanting to do stuff which is a plus for him on D1. Doesn't allow me to exclude him as mafia though.

I don't see what would have required catching up in regards to his initial tubesock read however. It remains a read that is essentially based on Tube being prickly entirely, except that the actual vote happens only when Noobking votes.

His initial impression that Tube is prickly goes from being an observation to an explanation for why it is scummy to a vote for other reasons.

It looks like he reacts to his own posts to keep up a narrative in this case.
I see it like this could have happened:

Townie overreacts to other townie, AMG spots possible fault by TS, calls him prickly but doesn't go with it anywhere. So he needs to make a followup posts telling us that he thinks it's a mafia trait cause the previous post alone in the room would look bad.
Only when Noobking attacks Tubesock AMG decides to vote for him, and he does it by rehashing/agreeing with what Noobking said.

So AMG was kind of looking for reasons to get onto Tubesock purely for the reason he called him prickly already, and since his own reason didn't get enough pull, he only felt like he had the opportunity to do so when Noobking voted first.

This is summed up what's not right with AMG in my opinion.


You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock which I've gone over two or three times now. His pricklyness catches my eye, as did him having a read that conflicted with mine, so I challenged his read. He refused to discuss anything with me at all, like he didn't give a shit about my alignment and had no drive to find out why I had a different opinion to him.


Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did.

So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did)

_____

I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive).

And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df.

Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.


I'm a single parent that works. Activity will not be consistent. And when I return to the thread with a point to make, only to see someone has already said it, I see no need to repeat what I'm saying.

And if you can't follow along with my thought process on why I've stepped away from my tubesock read, and, i was being nice about it up until this point, I'll absolutely spell it out for you: he's playing too stupid for me to expect logical and sensible responses and play from and I've gleaned that from our most recent conversation. Therefore I wont be calling him scum for not living up to the expectations that I have of him, I'm going to call him dumb town and move on to discussing other players.


So I was about to say that there is no way this lines up with the 'doesn't feel like scum' reaction to Tube not trying to make reads to save himself. But I think I'd rather ask you to reconcile those two, AMG, if you can.

The thing for me is while I liked some of his posting independently, the scumreads are pretty boring.

"You didn't talk to me when I had a different read" @tube
"You said people when I only am scumreading one person" "you say you'd normally agree with the reasoning for the tube lynch" (and be wrong) "but you take issue with me jumping on it for a different reason" @prp

There's like nothing whatsoever to these scumreads. By contrast, his townreads are fairly well-reasoned.


I'm not quite sure what you're asking me to do here?

I don't know how I can further illustrate my thought process more than what i've already put into the thread without just repeating myself.

I know what it feels like when I've latched onto a scum, tubesock didn't feel like that, he felt like incoherent town.

You're welcome to think my reads are boring, I disagree, I was once upon a time known for making reads that fly in the face of thread sentiment (see tubesock read) and I do not apologize for that.


I'm asking you how you can reconcile:
1) Tube is town because he's not coming back with a scumread (i.e. not trying to save himself a la vivax)

and

2) Tube is town because nothing he says makes sense and I can't hold him to that standard.

You gave two separate narratives for your townread that do not appear to go together to me. Maybe I'm just a dunce and there's a connection I'm not seeing, but it almost seems like you forgot your reason.

Not a huge issue by itself, but I also take issue with your scumreads.

Townreads:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2018 15:24 AMG wrote:
Being prickly is scummy. You have to accept that people are going to ping you in this game. A prickly reaction usually comes from someone trying to hide something and reacting poorly.

I don't have an opinion for or against people discussing strategy or mass claiming. I'll be spending my calories focusing on the psychology of players as opposed to trying to game mechanics.

I don't find noobking scummy at all, I'm actually pretty certain he's town

On March 07 2018 06:04 AMG wrote:
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On March 07 2018 05:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Damdred and @noobking. What do you guys think about what I've said about rsoultin so far? Also anyone else that cares to contribute.


I don't get malice when I read rsoultins filter. It's care free and fun. I think there are absolutely better lynches to be had elsewhere, but I think your heart is in the right place.

On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:
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On March 07 2018 10:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 07 2018 10:53 AMG wrote:
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote

What about what Tubesock said makes you think he's not Mafia?


Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.

I find his thought process on n00bking strange, but it feels town strange. I feel like hes getting hung up on something irrelevant, and that's something I associate with townies. Scum, on average, on the other hand get hung up on something relevant, but tiny, and then blow it out of proportion.

On March 07 2018 11:19 AMG wrote:
His grand return to the thread after copping heat is to return, declare hes got no scum reads, and hes aware that'll probably kill him. And stick to his guns that n00bking is doing scummy things, but isn't scum.

None of this seems calculated like mafia play at all.



On re-reading your filter, I don't have as much of an issue with the townreads because they weren't quite as well-reasoned as I remember. I don't know why I thought that you had a fleshed read on noob...probably because it was what initially made me townread you because I also thought noob was pretty clearly town. The moosy townread is also unreasoned and just in passing.

Your townread is pretty good on me, though. And the tube townread is well-reasoned if not something I agreed on (or still agree on in principle, though obviously you were right).

Scumreads:
+ Show Spoiler [Tubesock] +

On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?


On March 06 2018 20:45 AMG wrote:
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On March 06 2018 18:01 n00bKing wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.

I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.

Ugh. I don't like any of that post. Being "more interested in n00bking" isn't a good reason to avoid any discussion with AMG. You can talk to 2 players at once, you know. Keeping a singular focus on one topic helps to keep you from needing to develop opinions on any other subject, and that's not good. And even if you thought you had "no common ground" with him about what makes players prickly (and even if you thought discussing the disagreement with him wouldn't help you determine whether he actually sees it differently, or is just pretending to) you could have just talked to him about something else instead. Like...you could have talked to him about the thing you were "more interested in." ME! Why not ask him why he has the townread on me? He might share something that changes your mind. Or you might share something that changes his. Having NO desire to discuss me with someone who takes the opposite opinion just makes it look like you already know my allegiance.

'splain yourself.

##Vote: Tubesock


Basically, this.

##Vote: Tubesock

Bottom line, i'm 1/13th of the game and you don't seem to care to engage me, I'd like to know why. And saying we disagree on one point is absolutely not an answer.


^ This is pretty weak. And voting after noob does for the same reason you already stated doesn't make it feel better to me. I'm willing to let that pass as early game scumreads, because it's not like mine were super stellar or anything and I'm also having trouble finding scum this game.

But

+ Show Spoiler [prplhz] +

On March 06 2018 20:50 AMG wrote:
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On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


You think me making excuses to scum read people. What people? I have implied one person was scum and did not like their follow up. One person.

So you find my opinion on or attempt at discussion with Tubesock to be forced, or I don't believe what i'm saying when i'm saying it?

On March 07 2018 13:16 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


The more I read this post, the less I like it.

You think the Tubesock push is something you'd normally like, but then be wrong about... so you agree with the logic? And then I'm making excuses to be on that wagon, the one you would normally like?

If you'd normally like this kind of push, but you're opting out, what gives. Why are you going against your better judgement in this one?



This scumread just sets off my bullshit meter. My slight tonal read on prp is entirely based on him saying it looks like something he'd like but be wrong about. And if people don't find that to be slightly towny I entirely understand because it's just a gut feel. So lynch prp for that. This he said people when you only mentioned one thing is a bad reason. (Yeah, sorry DF. But it is. It's not much different than the Tube push.)

That's not even what pings me though. What pings me is this second one. You clearly understand that he
1) Agrees with the logic you were not pushing
2) Thinks he'd be wrong about it, i.e. Tube's town
3) You had a different reason

So why do you assume it's unnatural for someone to find it scummy for tacking on a reason that they don't agree with to what they think is a town wagon?




To be fair, I'm not as sure on this read as I was last night. I was poking through your filter for your scumreads, really hated the prp one, and remembered your townreads being better than they were.

It's a strawman argument to claim that you are known for your reads being hipster when I was saying that you can't seem to put together a good scumread but your townreads are good. (This to me is scummy because I feel that scum has an easier time making good townreads than good scumreads, for obvious reasons).

However, I don't think my impression was entirely correct.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 08 2018 09:09 GMT
#678
HOLY SHIT ITS MY BOI ALAKASLAM
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 09:09 GMT
#679
On March 08 2018 17:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Only to sleep I work tomorrow holy shit that was a wait now I will be all antsy at work and no one will know why


Lol, I have to admit that I've missed you <3

Elaborate on noob once you get back?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
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March 08 2018 09:09 GMT
#680
IM SORRY EVERYONE IVE TRIED MY B EST TO CONTROL MYSELF BUT NO HOLDS BARRED
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