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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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On March 08 2018 16:45 Holyflare wrote: I'm still healing df with the other 2 medics. You may be right. I don't think so, but then I'm hardly infallible. | ||
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Holyflare
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MoosyDoosy
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On March 08 2018 15:42 rsoultin wrote: @Moosy, I'm not sure why I'm suddenly top town to you? I effectively forced a tube lynch with my vote, and I'm really not at all sure that prp is town. Nor do i recall you townreading him? Vivax said some interesting things and Tubesock's flip is making me redraw my town list. I am not townreading prp and I don't think I've said that? Unless I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to ask with your last question. rn the only greens I'm actually feeling are vivax and you. I need to look into noobking, AMG, holy, and darthfoley again and the whole start of the tubesock shit. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 08 2018 16:53 MoosyDoosy wrote: Vivax said some interesting things and Tubesock's flip is making me redraw my town list. I am not townreading prp and I don't think I've said that? Unless I'm misinterpreting what you're trying to ask with your last question. rn the only greens I'm actually feeling are vivax and you. I need to look into noobking, AMG, holy, and darthfoley again and the whole start of the tubesock shit. What I'm saying is I forced a town lynch with my vote, and unless you thought the counterwagons are town as well I don't understand why I'm now town to you? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On March 08 2018 17:13 rsoultin wrote: What I'm saying is I forced a town lynch with my vote, and unless you thought the counterwagons are town as well I don't understand why I'm now town to you? I've looked through your filter at least 10 times at this point. Also as the game's gone on your thought process has become a lot more like mine. As for wagons and such, it's why I said I need to look again at the specific people that I listed. | ||
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rsoultin
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+ Show Spoiler + On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote: Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG? On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote: Okay i've caught up. AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange" Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense. On March 07 2018 05:14 darthfoley wrote: You made a post about how n00bking is 10000% not in your lynch pool ATM. But you seem to be heavily town reading AMG too, so I'm just confused why he wasn't part of this unlynchable pool. It's a minor inconsistency that I'm just confused about On March 07 2018 05:16 rsoultin wrote: Oh, I guess awarding him a cookie when I first came in thread and calling him the smexiest wasn't as obvious as I should be. AMG was and remains my top townread, with the only caveat being I've never played with him before that I recall. Just so you're aware, cookie = townread. Thus I am also now townreading Damdy. On March 07 2018 07:24 darthfoley wrote: I'm not voting on rsoultin today I think. Tonally town and again I think her reason to townread me makes sense based off of our short playing history etc. I'm just not seeing what Moosy is. I'm gonna look at his filter later. On March 07 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote: Like I can see myself having a similar weak scum read on someone who did what I did. At least to stir the pot a bit cuz at the time she made that read, the thread was a "poop on tubesock" fest iirc On March 07 2018 07:27 darthfoley wrote: n00b/rsoultin/AMG/Damdred is my town list ATM I don't see this as 'he just called rsoul town several times and asked irrelevant questions' (the fourth quote was my response to his question to contextualize it). That to me reads like noticing something odd while catching up, a very light maybe townread once caught up, then that townread solidifies after my answering his question and responding to moosy about my reads. Also, the second-to-last quote indicates he's thinking about whether what I was scumreading him for makes sense from a town perspective, which I think is a normal reaction to being scumread by someone (i.e. being more interested in their alignment). Followed by an updated town list. There is nothing about that read progression that strikes me as unnatural and I'm not sure why HF is reading it differently. | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 08 2018 17:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: I've looked through your filter at least 10 times at this point. Also as the game's gone on your thought process has become a lot more like mine. As for wagons and such, it's why I said I need to look again at the specific people that I listed. I thought it might be that given your EoD posting and your initial reason for scumreading me in the first place, but didn't want to assume. Okay. | ||
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Calix
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As a reminder, please do not discuss replacements. | ||
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Alakaslam
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Alakaslam
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Alakaslam
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Holyflare
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On March 08 2018 17:29 rsoultin wrote: DF's read progression on me: + Show Spoiler + On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote: Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG? On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote: Okay i've caught up. AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange" Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense. On March 07 2018 05:14 darthfoley wrote: You made a post about how n00bking is 10000% not in your lynch pool ATM. But you seem to be heavily town reading AMG too, so I'm just confused why he wasn't part of this unlynchable pool. It's a minor inconsistency that I'm just confused about On March 07 2018 05:16 rsoultin wrote: Oh, I guess awarding him a cookie when I first came in thread and calling him the smexiest wasn't as obvious as I should be. AMG was and remains my top townread, with the only caveat being I've never played with him before that I recall. Just so you're aware, cookie = townread. Thus I am also now townreading Damdy. On March 07 2018 07:24 darthfoley wrote: I'm not voting on rsoultin today I think. Tonally town and again I think her reason to townread me makes sense based off of our short playing history etc. I'm just not seeing what Moosy is. I'm gonna look at his filter later. On March 07 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote: Like I can see myself having a similar weak scum read on someone who did what I did. At least to stir the pot a bit cuz at the time she made that read, the thread was a "poop on tubesock" fest iirc On March 07 2018 07:27 darthfoley wrote: n00b/rsoultin/AMG/Damdred is my town list ATM I don't see this as 'he just called rsoul town several times and asked irrelevant questions' (the fourth quote was my response to his question to contextualize it). That to me reads like noticing something odd while catching up, a very light maybe townread once caught up, then that townread solidifies after my answering his question and responding to moosy about my reads. Also, the second-to-last quote indicates he's thinking about whether what I was scumreading him for makes sense from a town perspective, which I think is a normal reaction to being scumread by someone (i.e. being more interested in their alignment). Followed by an updated town list. There is nothing about that read progression that strikes me as unnatural and I'm not sure why HF is reading it differently. You and I are reading different games then. He asks you a question about an irrelevant inconsistency. What does be gain from knowing you town read both? If you were mafia why does this inconsistency occur etc. It's irrelevant. Before you even answer he's throwing you a town read for thought process on tube. Then when you throw him a town read he buddies you and says that's what he'd expect. The town read wasn't even big or good from you to him. Its an overblown reactionary reason to call you town. | ||
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Alakaslam
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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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On March 08 2018 08:56 AMG wrote: I'm not quite sure what you're asking me to do here? I don't know how I can further illustrate my thought process more than what i've already put into the thread without just repeating myself. I know what it feels like when I've latched onto a scum, tubesock didn't feel like that, he felt like incoherent town. You're welcome to think my reads are boring, I disagree, I was once upon a time known for making reads that fly in the face of thread sentiment (see tubesock read) and I do not apologize for that. I'm asking you how you can reconcile: 1) Tube is town because he's not coming back with a scumread (i.e. not trying to save himself a la vivax) and 2) Tube is town because nothing he says makes sense and I can't hold him to that standard. You gave two separate narratives for your townread that do not appear to go together to me. Maybe I'm just a dunce and there's a connection I'm not seeing, but it almost seems like you forgot your reason. Not a huge issue by itself, but I also take issue with your scumreads. Townreads: + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2018 15:24 AMG wrote: Being prickly is scummy. You have to accept that people are going to ping you in this game. A prickly reaction usually comes from someone trying to hide something and reacting poorly. I don't have an opinion for or against people discussing strategy or mass claiming. I'll be spending my calories focusing on the psychology of players as opposed to trying to game mechanics. I don't find noobking scummy at all, I'm actually pretty certain he's town On March 07 2018 06:04 AMG wrote: I don't get malice when I read rsoultins filter. It's care free and fun. I think there are absolutely better lynches to be had elsewhere, but I think your heart is in the right place. On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote: Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there. I find his thought process on n00bking strange, but it feels town strange. I feel like hes getting hung up on something irrelevant, and that's something I associate with townies. Scum, on average, on the other hand get hung up on something relevant, but tiny, and then blow it out of proportion. On March 07 2018 11:19 AMG wrote: His grand return to the thread after copping heat is to return, declare hes got no scum reads, and hes aware that'll probably kill him. And stick to his guns that n00bking is doing scummy things, but isn't scum. None of this seems calculated like mafia play at all. On re-reading your filter, I don't have as much of an issue with the townreads because they weren't quite as well-reasoned as I remember. I don't know why I thought that you had a fleshed read on noob...probably because it was what initially made me townread you because I also thought noob was pretty clearly town. The moosy townread is also unreasoned and just in passing. Your townread is pretty good on me, though. And the tube townread is well-reasoned if not something I agreed on (or still agree on in principle, though obviously you were right). Scumreads: + Show Spoiler [Tubesock] + On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote: Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response? On March 06 2018 20:45 AMG wrote: Basically, this. ##Vote: Tubesock Bottom line, i'm 1/13th of the game and you don't seem to care to engage me, I'd like to know why. And saying we disagree on one point is absolutely not an answer. ^ This is pretty weak. And voting after noob does for the same reason you already stated doesn't make it feel better to me. I'm willing to let that pass as early game scumreads, because it's not like mine were super stellar or anything and I'm also having trouble finding scum this game. But + Show Spoiler [prplhz] + On March 06 2018 20:50 AMG wrote: You think me making excuses to scum read people. What people? I have implied one person was scum and did not like their follow up. One person. So you find my opinion on or attempt at discussion with Tubesock to be forced, or I don't believe what i'm saying when i'm saying it? On March 07 2018 13:16 AMG wrote: The more I read this post, the less I like it. You think the Tubesock push is something you'd normally like, but then be wrong about... so you agree with the logic? And then I'm making excuses to be on that wagon, the one you would normally like? If you'd normally like this kind of push, but you're opting out, what gives. Why are you going against your better judgement in this one? This scumread just sets off my bullshit meter. My slight tonal read on prp is entirely based on him saying it looks like something he'd like but be wrong about. And if people don't find that to be slightly towny I entirely understand because it's just a gut feel. So lynch prp for that. This he said people when you only mentioned one thing is a bad reason. (Yeah, sorry DF. But it is. It's not much different than the Tube push.) That's not even what pings me though. What pings me is this second one. You clearly understand that he 1) Agrees with the logic you were not pushing 2) Thinks he'd be wrong about it, i.e. Tube's town 3) You had a different reason So why do you assume it's unnatural for someone to find it scummy for tacking on a reason that they don't agree with to what they think is a town wagon? To be fair, I'm not as sure on this read as I was last night. I was poking through your filter for your scumreads, really hated the prp one, and remembered your townreads being better than they were. It's a strawman argument to claim that you are known for your reads being hipster when I was saying that you can't seem to put together a good scumread but your townreads are good. (This to me is scummy because I feel that scum has an easier time making good townreads than good scumreads, for obvious reasons). However, I don't think my impression was entirely correct. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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rsoultin
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On March 08 2018 17:37 Alakaslam wrote: Only to sleep I work tomorrow holy shit that was a wait now I will be all antsy at work and no one will know why Lol, I have to admit that I've missed you <3 Elaborate on noob once you get back? | ||
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