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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 01:46 GMT
#1501
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 01:52 GMT
#1502
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 02:10 GMT
#1503
I really struggle to see this as scum to scum conversation.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.
    On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
    I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.
On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.
    On February 07 2018 21:00 darthfoley wrote:
    Hmmm. I guess I can see what you mean. Has your read on him changed at all since?
On February 07 2018 21:32 mderg wrote:
A bit, he's certainly a bit more jumpy now


In DarthFoley eyes mocsta is scum; and this reads as a legitimate attempt to canvas why someone presents an alternate view. (i.e. not fake scum to scum interaction)

What follows a couple posts from mderg is the infamous summary:
"darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum."

Does it read prior that hes talking to someone that is scum lean?
Does it read prior that mderg would call DF scummy for that conversation?

    On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
    Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

    I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.
    On February 08 2018 04:06 darthfoley wrote:
    yes, it was I! I still think that inconsistency is very weird, even after he explained it. I kinda bought it but not really

    Catching up now 1 hour before deadline
On February 08 2018 04:30 mderg wrote:
still no actual inconsistency there.
I believe this exchange is crucial to determine DF alignment.
Note the votes when DF made that post:
mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, Koshi
rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
trfel (1): prplhz
prplhz (0):: Koshi
Conversion (0): rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg
ritoky (0): rsoultin
darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet
Not Voting (3): Damdred, Rels
If DF is scum.. he can either bus or save mderg.

If he was bussing, DF would be riding this so much harder.. instead, he actally backs off it slightly & eventually gets into a screaming match with HF. One could argue, that rsoultin and mderg are scum. If so, i think DF only has one play which is to try and swing votes onto me (as his other read).

Overall I am satisfied DF is town.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 02:16 GMT
#1504
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 02:20 GMT
#1505
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 02:21 GMT
#1506
Re: Ritoky

+ Show Spoiler [vote=great] +
On February 07 2018 19:19 ritoky wrote:
i think mderg is a fine lynch. active and present enough to have reads or do things, but still a complete sideline figure. his entry post i assume is a joke, but it isn't funny. his posts are more destructive than constructive, in the sense that he is more about why others are wrong rather than why he is right in any capacity. and considering his posts, activity level, and general aversion to being engaged in the game; he seems like he should be under more heat than he is. almost like he is being avoided to a degree.

##vote: mderg

that being said i am about to begin the 2nd half of my 16 hour work hell. then i am going to sleep and celebrate my birthday. it will be surprising to both you and i if i am in the thread again in the next 30-36 hours.

i will say that if shit gets weird toward the end of the deadline with claims and stuff, you can feel free to default lynch me and i won't hold it against any of you. i will flip town, but i think the town is in a relatively healthy place regardless of lynching a green or red on day 1. it is also clear that the way i am playing does now does not jive well with the way most are playing here, and if my removal from the game would help the better players have a clearer understanding of the game, then that is cool too. if this is the last i post this game, it was fun being completely honest for the first time.


However, build up to this point consists of literally:
+ Show Spoiler [1] +
On February 07 2018 18:48 ritoky wrote:
i am pretty sold on:
holyflare
rayn
darthfoley


then like next tier is probably:
rsoul
trfel

then there's a lot of confusion

then probably bottom tier is:
damdred
mderg
+ Show Spoiler [2] +
On February 07 2018 18:55 ritoky wrote:
koshi, who's worse mderg or damdred?


Option 1: Ritoky is a townie who had to AFK for a long period so put his vote where noone was looking (and lined up with his gut).

Option 2: Ritoky is a scum who had had to AFK for a long period so put his vote on a buddy for worst-case scenario (which actually happened)..

I think option2 is so unrealistic and really really stupid play. I think a mafia regardless of how busy, would have unvoted mderg at some point before it went to 5 votes.

Im going with Option 1.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 02:21 GMT
#1507
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3
You dont think prplhz has big town balls for his polarised reads EoD1?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 02:22 GMT
#1508
Damdred, how does #1503 impact your read?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 02:28 GMT
#1509
@mocsta lets say df is scum, how can he do more in that scenerio to save mderg?

Actually co version are you still here?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 02:37 GMT
#1510
Fuck it lets go, im just wrong on df.

If mderg and rs are scum together, df didnt do jackshit to help a counterwagon when he was presenr so doesnt make sense.

If mderg and df are scum together, you are right in that he should of bussed but now is part of the people who are being looked at.

His fihht i pointed out served no purpose and hurt hia cause if he is scum with mderg, he might od been antagonistic toqards hf but no real reason when he needs him to kill tina. (if shes town)

probably just town here because it doesnr make sense and im an idiot
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 02:38 GMT
#1511
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 02:42 GMT
#1512
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 02:47 GMT
#1513
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 02:56 GMT
#1514
On February 09 2018 11:47 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.


Ok, can you take me through why tina was making you feel better before her string of bad posts. I thinl you were absent when both of them decided to vote not each other?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 03:09 GMT
#1515
On February 09 2018 11:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 11:47 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.


Ok, can you take me through why tina was making you feel better before her string of bad posts. I thinl you were absent when both of them decided to vote not each other?


I really disliked mderg’s response to my prodding at him then rsoultin’s. Rsoultin at one point said “ok my play before this was bad, and I will try to start new.” which I feel like I have and would do if I was town.

Mderg’s was just a passively dismissive attitude and I just really disliked it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 03:15 GMT
#1516
On February 09 2018 12:09 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 11:56 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:47 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
[quote]

Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.


Ok, can you take me through why tina was making you feel better before her string of bad posts. I thinl you were absent when both of them decided to vote not each other?


I really disliked mderg’s response to my prodding at him then rsoultin’s. Rsoultin at one point said “ok my play before this was bad, and I will try to start new.” which I feel like I have and would do if I was town.

Mderg’s was just a passively dismissive attitude and I just really disliked it


Ok, what do you think of tina now?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 03:35 GMT
#1517
On February 09 2018 12:15 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 12:09 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:56 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:47 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
[quote]

Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.


Ok, can you take me through why tina was making you feel better before her string of bad posts. I thinl you were absent when both of them decided to vote not each other?


I really disliked mderg’s response to my prodding at him then rsoultin’s. Rsoultin at one point said “ok my play before this was bad, and I will try to start new.” which I feel like I have and would do if I was town.

Mderg’s was just a passively dismissive attitude and I just really disliked it


Ok, what do you think of tina now?


I’d have to revisit her filter but I don’t remember her doing anyhig memorable? Although that’s just more me zoning out than not.

I cannot fathom a mderg + rsoultin mafia team playing that horribly before EoD, but I guess it is not impossible
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EoD1 with votes inserted - starts from when mderg received real votes

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On February 07 2018 19:45 Koshi wrote:
imo the townies this game are destroying each other. Which is fine if you come to a point we all sing kumbaya together in the end.

My point on prplhz is good. Him having a problem with the bad tr from df on me without having a problem with me is also slightly more mafia.

Mderg is super sideline like others have been saying. Me first though. He has no original thoughts and have had the solo "I am tired I dont want to play" post mafia makes more often than town.

Damdred could be a butterfly who is now sleeping as a cocoon. But he could be mafia easily as well. Very easily.

Rels w.e. We cant know.
On February 07 2018 19:46 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
isnt overplaying it.. hes calling me scum you idiot.

O rly. Explain to me where.
On February 07 2018 19:52 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:46 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
isnt overplaying it.. hes calling me scum you idiot.

O rly. Explain to me where.

how about his whole filter....

whats there to explain?
On February 07 2018 19:54 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:45 Koshi wrote:
imo the townies this game are destroying each other. Which is fine if you come to a point we all sing kumbaya together in the end.

My point on prplhz is good. Him having a problem with the bad tr from df on me without having a problem with me is also slightly more mafia.

Mderg is super sideline like others have been saying. Me first though. He has no original thoughts and have had the solo "I am tired I dont want to play" post mafia makes more often than town.

Damdred could be a butterfly who is now sleeping as a cocoon. But he could be mafia easily as well. Very easily.

Rels w.e. We cant know.
i find this post good.

yes, im going to legitimately vote mderg. that summarises quite well what i have been feeling.

##Unvote
##Vote: mderg


as an aside, i can accept a town!DF thinking im scum. Hes quite a pussy as scum so I can see him being cautious of me.
Rsoultin.. hmm, i dunno to be honest. Even though I legit pocketed her last game, I expect her personality to brush that off as "lesson learned" and not keep injecting "ohhh. im so cautious of this and that"..but thats my prediction on her behaviour and i should treat it as that.
    On February 07 2018 19:55 Mocsta wrote:
    ##Unvote
    ##Vote: mderg
    On February 07 2018 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
    ##vote mderg
    On February 07 2018 22:48 Trfel wrote:
    ##unvote
    rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
    Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
    mderg (3):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin
    prplhz (1):: Koshi
    Conversion (0): rsoultin
    Holyflare (0): mderg
    ritoky (0): rsoultin
    darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet

    Not Voting (4): Damdred, Rels, prplhz, trfel
On February 07 2018 19:56 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn's confidence in incorrects reads fuels me
    On February 08 2018 00:58 Trfel wrote:
    ##vote mderg
    rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
    Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
    mderg (4):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel
    prplhz (1):: Koshi
    Conversion (0): rsoultin
    Holyflare (0): mderg
    ritoky (0): rsoultin
    darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet

    Not Voting (3): Damdred, Rels, prplhz
On February 07 2018 19:57 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley

the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.

no. not a suitable day1 vote.

Damdred all the way
I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game again

i dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on.

now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments.
excuse me? what is not alignment indicative?


On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me.
and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.



I really want to townread you for this comment alone lol
On February 07 2018 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi town btw

I did the same thing as him last game but compeletly different delivery and intent

That post has no value as scum. It really doeant
On February 07 2018 20:00 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:57 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley

the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.

no. not a suitable day1 vote.

Damdred all the way
I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game again

i dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on.

now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments.
excuse me? what is not alignment indicative?


On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me.
and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.



I really want to townread you for this comment alone lol

Now you see the light
There is no vader here.

Tell me about mderg puh leaae
On February 07 2018 20:03 darthfoley wrote:
@ritoky

I was angle shooting

Also rayn's big "gotcha" moment doesn't make sense. A scum slip is when people say "I believe am I Town" not "I am Town and I believe your arguments are incorrect." But now were just talking semantics
On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.


Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't.

This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia
On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.
On February 07 2018 20:09 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin).


Like this read just seems very superficial
On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.
On February 07 2018 20:10 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.


Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't.

This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia
lol yeah that makes aense actually.

He probably legit doesnt understand what im saying so doesnt know how to twist it into saying im scum.

Ok. I will read detention again
On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.


To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.
talking to me?

Who cares if my argument is wrong
Care if its intentional
On February 07 2018 20:13 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 06 2018 07:35 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:22 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:13 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime.
a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me

Why?

Maybe bullshitty is the wrong word but this "unnatural place for someone's mind to go" is a bit much regarding an obvious joke post


Again, why does it being an obvious joke post default to bullshit? I read the beginning of the sentence and assumed mafia would be the conclusion. It wasn't. That caught my eye more than all the other obvious jokes flying around -shrugs- I agree that it's pretty moot since it was just a passing thought that for some stupid reason has now become the focal point of the thread.

What do you think about mocsta bandwagoning on that?

@DF, so it's scummy for me to comment on it like I did but you also don't like mocsta. I don't understand.

I guess my mind is more simple than that. I see joke post -> I mentally discard it

About Mocsta: I can kind of see what he's seeing but I'm already struggling to understand what he's saying


Very odd read progression imo

1. I can kind of see what he's seeing
2. I am already struggling to understand what he's saying
3. MOCSTA KNOWS WHERE HES GOING THIS GAME

but I thought you couldn't understand what he was saying (?)
On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.


To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
tell me. Is rayn always so self centred?

Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last
On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.
talking to me?

Who cares if my argument is wrong
Care if its intentional

No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df.

About tfrel:
I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe.

What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia.

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On February 07 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote:
Yes strong town lean +5
Koshi
Hf
Darthfoley
Conversion

Nullish -2 to +4
Ritoky
Rayn
Rsoultin
Rels
Trfel
Prplhz

Scummy -5
Mderg
Damdred

On February 07 2018 20:18 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.

He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.

Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined
On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:
I would actually appreciate Conversion's feedback in the thread. He was playing well earlier
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.
On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.


To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
tell me. Is rayn always so self centred?

Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last


Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play.
On February 07 2018 20:22 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.
talking to me?

Who cares if my argument is wrong
Care if its intentional

No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df.

About tfrel:
I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe.

What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia.
analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either.

Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content.

Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect..

In short. He came across as super original
And ended up as a copy paster.

Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum
On February 07 2018 20:24 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:18 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.

He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.

Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined

I disagree

I wrote repeatedly in qt that i always want an alternative wagon second 24hrs so people dont get itchy. I think its more a town tell .

If mafia. I thinm optimal play is to either fight before it is a wagon or bus it outright
On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards
On February 07 2018 20:25 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.


To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
tell me. Is rayn always so self centred?

Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last


Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play.

His mafia play is really good. If town is wrong he can make a giant post with fresh arguments that fit towns current believes and cements them even further. Making it very unlikely town recovers fast.

His town play is hit or miss early. And gets more likely to hit later on. But I have seen him be miss till like mid d3. After that he is hit or rip.
That being said. He can be hit d1 and then he is able to convince the thread he is right. Because he is so relentless. If thread sentiment doesnt believe him he is wrong most of the times. Thread sentiment is a good indicator.
On February 07 2018 20:28 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:22 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.
talking to me?

Who cares if my argument is wrong
Care if its intentional

No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df.

About tfrel:
I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe.

What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia.
analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either.

Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content.

Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect..

In short. He came across as super original
And ended up as a copy paster.

Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum

Well... I think what you write here makes him town. And that what you attribute to him being possible mafia might be a flaw in his game. Unless you can point out the mafia agenda in him sheeping we can't lynch him.
On February 07 2018 20:29 mderg wrote:
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On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin).

Be honest, you're only townreading me because I'm on the same page as you on rsoultin. I haven't done shit this game.
On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards

Coolio. I believe you.
I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct.
On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?
On February 07 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards

Coolio. I believe you.
I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct.

Lol

This is a funniest comment nomination

Me and darth were scum together last game... you knlw.. brutal bus everyome was talking about
On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?

What development? I dont follow.
On February 07 2018 20:33 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards

Coolio. I believe you.
I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct.

Lol

This is a funniest comment nomination

Me and darth were scum together last game... you knlw.. brutal bus everyome was talking about

Yes. I wasnt in the game.
I meant he wasnt mafia in a game I was alive in recently.
On February 07 2018 20:34 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?

What development? I dont follow.
you just aaid. My comments on trfel indicate town

Prplhz was playing against thread sentiment by shitting on trfel to make a black truffle.

Yoy said you liked this about prplhz.. and i believ it lined up with yoyr read.

So of leaning town.. does this influence prplhz read?
On February 07 2018 20:38 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?

What development? I dont follow.
you just aaid. My comments on trfel indicate town

Prplhz was playing against thread sentiment by shitting on trfel to make a black truffle.

Yoy said you liked this about prplhz.. and i believ it lined up with yoyr read.

So of leaning town.. does this influence prplhz read?

No. I never said that. I am scumreading/voting prplhz because he nitpicked something out of tfrel filter ignoring the broader picture.

prplhz has a nightmare filter and I dont care too much if he is mafia or town. I just want him out of the game and develop my reads further on people that actually play the game. Like rsoultin.

Mderg same story.
On February 07 2018 20:41 Mocsta wrote:
Fuck me. Am i really payojg that little attention

Will walk away then happy with my vote on mderg
On February 07 2018 20:48 Mocsta wrote:
Wait before i go

Why is there resistanxe to damdred...

How can he say tina is not her town self
Then say i should be ashamed of myself.

I was the primary pusher of tina.. wtf?

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On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
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On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.

Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.
On February 07 2018 21:00 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.

Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.


Hmmm. I guess I can see what you mean. Has your read on him changed at all since?
On February 07 2018 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes lynch Damdred again and let df and rsoultin away with that bs. maybe even better lynch me?
On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day.
On February 07 2018 21:07 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.

Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.
i dont think thag is accurate unleas referring to being bored by a predetermjned lynch.

Im disappointed with you mderg
On February 07 2018 21:08 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day.

Im hatter not vig
On February 07 2018 21:29 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day.

We won that game. And I agree that was great. Could do it again.
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?


Mocsta is moving away from rsoultin. Rayn is trying to lynch me but also rsoultin.
On February 07 2018 21:32 mderg wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:00 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.

Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.


Hmmm. I guess I can see what you mean. Has your read on him changed at all since?

A bit, he's certainly a bit more jumpy now
On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:
maybe I like rayn again
On February 07 2018 21:33 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.


Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't.

This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia


I think it's more that I don't remember anything mderg has posted and that resonated with how I felt about him last game.
On February 07 2018 21:41 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:
maybe I like rayn again


I'm tempted to sit on you because of ritoky. Your reads still seem to change based on others' reads on you, though. Or at least on people scumreading you. That resembles your scum play to me. If you have town games that show you kinda OMGUS your way through games, could you link one of them, please? I'll follow up eventually if I don't get lynched today, but my bruised ego would prefer a tidy collection of correct reads to leave town with, and I doubt I'll have the time before deadline to pursue that avenue.
On February 07 2018 21:44 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day.


What did you disagree with on my darth foley read? You asked for my filter dive on him (demanded it actually), I quoted where I'd already given it just as I quoted the ritoky posts that had me reading his game as fluid that I'd already given to holyflare when you asked, and you insta-voted me.

So either you have a problem with my read that I'd like explained, or you didn't realize I was quoting where I'd already answered what you were asking for.
On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.

There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.

Not bothering with Rels.

Neither of these two should be lynched today.
On February 07 2018 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Ofc Rels should be up for lynch...
On February 07 2018 21:53 prplhz wrote:
alright who on earth is Ian
On February 07 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.

There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.

Not bothering with Rels.

Neither of these two should be lynched today.


The funny thing is that nobody understands why you even thought conversion was mafia to begin with because you didn't say a thing. So why did you find him scummy?
On February 07 2018 21:54 prplhz wrote:
I get Tina because she's the only girl and Joni because it's short for Jonihyväälioulu or something but Ian could be just about anybody

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On February 07 2018 21:58 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:53 prplhz wrote:
alright who on earth is Ian


damdred I believe.

be back about 1 hour before deadline. hopefully i'm not getting lynched by then
On February 07 2018 21:58 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley

the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.


I'm not a big fan of Joni's townread on mderg or the fact that he was (is?) scumreading ritoky for the same reason that I was, but honestly this post probably makes him town. That and I'm generally not getting the 'scream until my target is lynched' vibe that I normally get from a scum Joni - he's still pushing, but taking the time to prod. Caveat here is he knows how I read him and has catered to that before. Caveat to the caveat is if he were scum here he could push me until the cows come home with no one listening to my trying to say he's scum for not involving people, and no one else seems to have that read nailed down on him. So. Still pretty sure he's town. Just being Joni.
On February 07 2018 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Ofc Rels should be up for lynch...


In the absence of anyone scummy, sure. I don't make a habit of lynching an afk Rels on D1 because, as you said with Damdred, he can turn into a butterfly.
On February 07 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.

There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.

Not bothering with Rels.

Neither of these two should be lynched today.


The funny thing is that nobody understands why you even thought conversion was mafia to begin with because you didn't say a thing. So why did you find him scummy?


Mostly just inconsistencies and nodding my head to Truffle's posts which gave me warm fuzzies at the time. I was a shameful sheeple.

It wasn't my strongest read at the time. Thus pursuing ritoky. However, ritoky addressed some of my concerns and then Conversion comes to the thread echoing a sentiment you'd just posted...something about me not doing anything about my scumreads. Then posted that well I'd poked at ritoky but that didn't mean anything because he didn't see what I'd gotten from it. Maybe it was an emotional reaction at the time, but it looked to me like he hadn't actually read what I'd posted since he'd left, then realized his mistake and posted to acknolwedge it before he could be called out on it, but still stick to his read.

In effect, though, even if that's true it still could have come from town. I'm just bad.
On February 07 2018 22:08 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:59 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Ofc Rels should be up for lynch...


In the absence of anyone scummy, sure. I don't make a habit of lynching an afk Rels on D1 because, as you said with Damdred, he can turn into a butterfly.

That is my point
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:
On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

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On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.

On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.
On February 07 2018 22:19 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.


If you cant follow it you are not reading the thread. It is rayn is nr 1 reason to scumread df and he explained it.

And I already explained this very post to mocsta as well. And on top of that df answered me already.

I cant help blind people in a forum mafia game. This is just pathetic.
On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...

Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it.
On February 07 2018 22:25 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:19 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.


If you cant follow it you are not reading the thread. It is rayn is nr 1 reason to scumread df and he explained it.

And I already explained this very post to mocsta as well. And on top of that df answered me already.

I cant help blind people in a forum mafia game. This is just pathetic.


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On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.


Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't.

This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia


^ I thought your post was in response to this post and had no clue as to why it got that reaction from you, even reading the discussion.

But I suppose it must have been in response to this one posted just before that?

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On February 07 2018 20:03 darthfoley wrote:
@ritoky

I was angle shooting

Also rayn's big "gotcha" moment doesn't make sense. A scum slip is when people say "I believe am I Town" not "I am Town and I believe your arguments are incorrect." But now were just talking semantics


So disregard. Dangers of skimming.
On February 07 2018 22:26 Koshi wrote:
I offcially revoke my leaning townread on rsoultin. I dont want to lynch her today. But fuck this thread control type of play that doesnt push the game forward at all. All stupid safe reads and nothing interesting in over 100 posts.

I am not entertained. You may die.
On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...

Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it.


There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him.
On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:26 Koshi wrote:
I offcially revoke my leaning townread on rsoultin. I dont want to lynch her today. But fuck this thread control type of play that doesnt push the game forward at all. All stupid safe reads and nothing interesting in over 100 posts.

I am not entertained. You may die.


Cool beans.
On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this.
On February 07 2018 22:30 prplhz wrote:
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On February 07 2018 18:34 Koshi wrote:
imo we always keep rsoultin alive here. It is a normal game so who cares? Kill people who do not play.

I like this post and agree with it.
On February 07 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...

Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it.


There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him.

You tr prplhz at some point. Or at least were ok with him. You keep asking me about prplhz and your own read is foggy as fuck. Reread prplhz if needed and explain how you felt about him this entire game. What are you telling me?? You have had no opinion at all on him this entire fucking game?

What are you doing?????
On February 07 2018 22:30 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this.


-shrugs- It wasn't obvious to me. So sue me.
On February 07 2018 22:31 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...

Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it.


There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him.

You tr prplhz at some point. Or at least were ok with him. You keep asking me about prplhz and your own read is foggy as fuck. Reread prplhz if needed and explain how you felt about him this entire game. What are you telling me?? You have had no opinion at all on him this entire fucking game?

What are you doing?????


Filter diving.
On February 07 2018 22:33 Koshi wrote:
rsoultin is not solving this game. That is for sure. Blah. Last time you were way more obvious mafia.

I remember my banana apple post.

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On February 07 2018 22:33 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this.


-shrugs- It wasn't obvious to me. So sue me.

Yeah. I am. For negligence.
On February 07 2018 22:33 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, you mean the two posts that he'd posted at the time? I still don't think they say much about his alignment, despite your claim that he was nitpicking truffle. Nor do the name questions or saying that you like to be right do anything for me. He's null.
On February 07 2018 22:33 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this.

Sigh.
I agree.

Really stuck on where to vote before i go to bed
I was willing to give rsoultin a chance but now she is just wasting it on filter commentary.
Mderg list post feels disconnected which he even comments on.

Im happy with a vote on rsoultin mderg or damdred

I think its good there 4 or 5 people with votes. Tug of war that is split this hard means at least one wagon is mafia in my opinion.

Im going to read mderg and tina past game now to finalise vote
On February 07 2018 22:34 Conversion wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.


I will agree with this. That was not a good post at all from mderg.
On February 07 2018 22:35 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:30 prplhz wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:34 Koshi wrote:
imo we always keep rsoultin alive here. It is a normal game so who cares? Kill people who do not play.

I like this post and agree with it.
u syill toen read rsoultin?
On February 07 2018 22:35 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:33 Koshi wrote:
rsoultin is not solving this game. That is for sure. Blah. Last time you were way more obvious mafia.

I remember my banana apple post.


o.0 I vaguely but don't really remember this.

On February 07 2018 22:37 Damdred wrote:
I almost feel human, I have a doctors appointment in 40 minutes. After that I shouos be here.

As for my vote im just going to sheep my top towns (rayn) when i get back.
On February 07 2018 22:37 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:33 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this.

Sigh.
I agree.

Really stuck on where to vote before i go to bed
I was willing to give rsoultin a chance but now she is just wasting it on filter commentary.
Mderg list post feels disconnected which he even comments on.

Im happy with a vote on rsoultin mderg or damdred

I think its good there 4 or 5 people with votes. Tug of war that is split this hard means at least one wagon is mafia in my opinion.

Im going to read mderg and tina past game now to finalise vote

Rsoultin mderg and prplhz are good places to plant a vote. We will probably lynch the townie out of the 3 on d1 but removing that person is fine anyway.

Damdred is maybe not mafia. Some shady people are too outspoken on him.
On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.

Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects?
On February 07 2018 22:38 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:34 Conversion wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.


I will agree with this. That was not a good post at all from mderg.

Im lazy and this is good enough for me to go to bed on

I also realised tina may feel pressures to magically generate reada before lynch.
Magically because when ppl tunnel yoy. You foxus on them and it can be hard to have reads worth sharing.
I am willing to give tina another day.

Good night. My vote stays with mderg
On February 07 2018 22:41 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.

Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects?

Yes. That is what it says.

You are nitpicking filters and not trying to find the alignment behind the filters.

I dont know why you are nitpicking the filters. But I am sure that you are doing just that.

This game is about finding 3 mafia out of 12 players. You are looking for the 3 and not for the 9.

Why are you not looking for the 9?
On February 07 2018 22:42 mderg wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:41 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.

Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects?

Yes. That is what it says.

You are nitpicking filters and not trying to find the alignment behind the filters.

I dont know why you are nitpicking the filters. But I am sure that you are doing just that.

This game is about finding 3 mafia out of 12 players. You are looking for the 3 and not for the 9.

Why are you not looking for the 9?

Are you fuckng serious?
On February 07 2018 22:44 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:42 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:41 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.

Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects?

Yes. That is what it says.

You are nitpicking filters and not trying to find the alignment behind the filters.

I dont know why you are nitpicking the filters. But I am sure that you are doing just that.

This game is about finding 3 mafia out of 12 players. You are looking for the 3 and not for the 9.

Why are you not looking for the 9?

Are you fuckng serious?

This is serious fucking business.
On February 07 2018 22:44 Trfel wrote:
I am here, skimmed the last 10 pages. I'll try and reread stuff during class.

Koshi's actually playing the game, which is great, but makes me less inclined to lynch him. Been avoiding thinking about darthfoley. Feel so lost

I'll try and figure out what's going on but if someone wants to talk about something let me know.
On February 07 2018 22:45 Damdred wrote:
Mderg pretend I havent read the game to a deep level,. If what Koshi says isnt true can you give me your sxum reada with a condensed reason for each?
On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.

I was gonna bother but you know what?

Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass.

Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care.

And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore.

Voting mderg.

Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first.
On February 07 2018 23:04 Damdred wrote:
Mderg peaced out when I asked him things idk what to think I guess ill have to look at his list when i read heh.
On February 07 2018 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I don't particularly understand but we vote martyrs in this here town.
On February 07 2018 23:05 Damdred wrote:
Tinnnnaaa
On February 07 2018 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 23:05 Damdred wrote:
Tinnnnaaa

Sorry if you're town, Ian. I'm just done. Calling me scum and shooting me multiple exclamation point question mark shouty posts is one thing.

Claiming I'm just filling my filter when I'm trying to leave a post flip legacy is another. Well, it's there. I'm done. I don't know if I'm right or not but whatever.
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On February 07 2018 23:14 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I don't particularly understand but we vote martyrs in this here town.
whose the martyr?
On February 07 2018 23:19 Koshi wrote:
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On February 07 2018 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 23:05 Damdred wrote:
Tinnnnaaa

Sorry if you're town, Ian. I'm just done. Calling me scum and shooting me multiple exclamation point question mark shouty posts is one thing.

Claiming I'm just filling my filter when I'm trying to leave a post flip legacy is another. Well, it's there. I'm done. I don't know if I'm right or not but whatever.

You are not going to get lynched so just breath and try again.
On February 07 2018 23:23 prplhz wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later.

Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation

this is a 100% mafia post for 2 reasons.
first on is he "believes" i am wrong. :D

Kind of like this post.
On February 07 2018 23:27 Conversion wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.

I was gonna bother but you know what?

Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass.

Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care.

And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore.

Voting mderg.

Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first.


Could you touch upon the Truffle post more? If you’re willing.

And the first line on mderg— is his filter bad or good? Can’t tell.

I am running late to work for other reasons so hopefully will be in front of a computer soon.
On February 07 2018 23:31 Conversion wrote:
I guess it is bad because you are voting for him, but it is not clear as it wasn’t clear as to why you were voting me.
On February 07 2018 23:43 Trfel wrote:
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On February 07 2018 15:50 Mocsta wrote:
trfel, i will get back to you tonight on those reads - i havent had the time at work today i was intending.

I want to ask you some more questions, but im concerned they are already answered in the thread (e.g. i didnt realise conversion made addition points about rsoultin as you ?alluded? before)

However, I am immediately curious about your position conversion.
Yesterday he was a scum lean.
Today, I assume you changed your mind because of his rsoultin rationale. And voted rsoultin.
NOW, you have unvoted rsoultin; how does that influence the read on conversion?
Yes, I changed my mind on Conversion because of his post on rsoultin (primarily that anyway). Conversion's analysis was good, regardless of rsoultin's alignment. He's been underwhelming since then, but I'm fine with him as town for now.

I do find it a bit weird that rsoultin says that her suspicion of Conversion wasn't her strongest read at the time (see here), but she voted for Conversion.

Why are Koshi/Conversion/Mocsta/etc picking on mderg for having 10 scumreads? To me that seems to be a horrid misinterpretation of mderg's post. I only see him scumreading darthfoley, rsoultin, and Koshi. Is the argument that he's mentioning the things that make him suspicious of each person, focusing on reasons to be suspicious of people rather than reasons to townread them? I see nothing wrong with this. Not that I have a read on mderg myself yet, I just am not sure what this argument is saying.

Conversion, rsoultin's read on me is heavily meta based. I can explain it for you if you'd like but if you really wanted to understand it you'd have to do a decent amount of reading and I doubt it would be worth it, especially since I haven't played in over a year and I've probably changed since then.
On February 08 2018 00:02 Conversion wrote:
I'm not picking on him for having 10 scum reads. I am picking on him for his list post saying absolutely nothing and not progressing/helping me progress on where his head is at for D1, which the deadline is fast approaching. He could have literally posted nothing and kept his vote on rsoultin and it would have had the same impact.
On February 08 2018 00:05 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel.
One of the easiest ways to solve this game is by PoE.
I thought everybody did that. Remove townies from your list and look into others more indepth.

If mderg is town he is the first who isnt doing that. Converstion okish and rayn okish iirc.
On February 08 2018 00:07 Koshi wrote:
What mderg did looks way more "what can I say about this filter". Nothing more. Just that.

I completely miss the feeling he does it to solve the game. To come closer to the truth.
On February 08 2018 00:08 Conversion wrote:
and I'd like rsoultin to respond, but I doubt she will. It would help her case a lot more if she did so than you, as I need to be able to see what she is thinking and experience her clarifying her points.

If I really want to nitpick on the mderg point:

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On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love. Comment: Who actually likes these posts?


Damdred: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing.
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though Comment: translates to, I guess he is town, but disclaimer I didn't do anything this game.
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel. Comment: Says nothing.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum. Comment: Possible scum
Rels: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing.
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now. Comment: I guess his read was good, but he gets a "pass" since I didn't like his earlier post. Does this mean I am town only for this day?
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch. Comment: We already knew this from his vote and earlier post.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part. Comment: Says nothing.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking. Comment: Says nothing aside from I don't like Koshi this game
Holyflare: Comment: ???
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi. Comment: Says nothing.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point Comment: Says nothing.:


This post is literally saying most of the players are null, maybe one is possible scum. It is not a good post. It was unnecessary.
On February 08 2018 00:12 Conversion wrote:
Man I'm tempted to sheep Koshi 100% and just lynch mderg or prplhz this game. Both filters are terrible.

Koshi, why mderg > prplhz? I may be missing it from your filter, but I'm assuming it's because of mderg's list post and tone.
On February 08 2018 00:14 Trfel wrote:
@Conversion, fair enough, I see that.

Personally I'm not a fan of his read progression on rsoultin. Feels like he goes from nothing to serial killer post was exaggerated to I see some of Mocsta's stuff (but the quality/accuracy of the read doesn't make me townread Mocsta) to passive-aggressiveness to not town rsoultin. Feels like following thread sentiment without adding much.

The Mocsta thing really sticks out to me. Did mderg agree with Mocsta's case? It seems like he did, since he was saying that he was seeing it and the biggest reasons he (mderg) is suspicious of rsoultin for are in it. But his own read on Mocsta is that he (Mocsta) is town because of being focused instead of jumping around. Nothing at all to do with Mocsta's suspicions of rsoultin that mderg himself seems to agree with strongly enough to vote.

Does anyone else see that?

@Koshi, I see what you're saying now. I guess I don't expect everyone to solve the game by POE, I know that I don't. Not opposed to the rest of what you're saying though. Thanks for explaining your prplhz/mderg thing earlier, by the way, that really helped. I had missed rsoultin asking for your prplhz read.
On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.
On February 08 2018 00:26 Trfel wrote:
I think I actually really like the point I made above.

I dunno about prplhz. I'm not a huge fan of him but I don't think he's anywhere near as suspicious as mderg given the point above. The main thing I personally find suspicious about prplhz is that it seems as if he is townreading rsoultin for towncredit.

Prplhz, if you are there, why do you townread rsoultin?
On February 08 2018 00:31 mderg wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:45 Damdred wrote:
Mderg pretend I havent read the game to a deep level,. If what Koshi says isnt true can you give me your sxum reada with a condensed reason for each?

rsoultin: Feels like a completely different person than last game. Much less nice and inclusiv, much more aggressive in questioning people.

Koshi: Seems like he is just trying to lynch by number of posts. Feels lazy unlike town hero koshi.

darthfoley: Scumread on Mocsta for what I consider dumb reasons, omgus on Trfel, rayn and Mocsta and some general "bitchiness"
On February 08 2018 00:34 Trfel wrote:
Mderg, do you have any response to my point about you in post #692?
On February 08 2018 00:35 Trfel wrote:
Also, mderg, aren't your reasons to scumread darthfoley exactly the same as what rsoultin was saying about him? Does that affect your thoughts at all?
On February 08 2018 00:37 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:07 Koshi wrote:
What mderg did looks way more "what can I say about this filter". Nothing more. Just that.

I completely miss the feeling he does it to solve the game. To come closer to the truth.

I litterally looked at the player list and thought: "What do I think about them". When I didn't really know I looked at their filter. I very much need to do stuff like that to I keep my thoughts in order.
On February 08 2018 00:41 Koshi wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:12 Conversion wrote:
Man I'm tempted to sheep Koshi 100% and just lynch mderg or prplhz this game. Both filters are terrible.

Koshi, why mderg > prplhz? I may be missing it from your filter, but I'm assuming it's because of mderg's list post and tone.

I dont really care about which one atm.
prplhz is still doing nothing. Is it mafia hiding or a townie who doesnt care? I dont know.
Mderg just isnt making the right posts.
On February 08 2018 00:46 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:08 Conversion wrote:
and I'd like rsoultin to respond, but I doubt she will. It would help her case a lot more if she did so than you, as I need to be able to see what she is thinking and experience her clarifying her points.

If I really want to nitpick on the mderg point:

On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love. Comment: Who actually likes these posts?


Damdred: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing.
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though Comment: translates to, I guess he is town, but disclaimer I didn't do anything this game.
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel. Comment: Says nothing.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum. Comment: Possible scum
Rels: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing.
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now. Comment: I guess his read was good, but he gets a "pass" since I didn't like his earlier post. Does this mean I am town only for this day?
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch. Comment: We already knew this from his vote and earlier post.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part. Comment: Says nothing.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking. Comment: Says nothing aside from I don't like Koshi this game
Holyflare: Comment: ???
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi. Comment: Says nothing.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point Comment: Says nothing.:


This post is literally saying most of the players are null, maybe one is possible scum. It is not a good post. It was unnecessary.

Like half the time where you comment "says nothing" it only says nothing because you want it to say nothing. I have exactly 4 null reads: Damdred, Rels, Holyflare and prplhz

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On February 08 2018 00:53 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:14 Trfel wrote:
@Conversion, fair enough, I see that.

Personally I'm not a fan of his read progression on rsoultin. Feels like he goes from nothing to serial killer post was exaggerated to I see some of Mocsta's stuff (but the quality/accuracy of the read doesn't make me townread Mocsta) to passive-aggressiveness to not town rsoultin. Feels like following thread sentiment without adding much.

The Mocsta thing really sticks out to me. Did mderg agree with Mocsta's case? It seems like he did, since he was saying that he was seeing it and the biggest reasons he (mderg) is suspicious of rsoultin for are in it. But his own read on Mocsta is that he (Mocsta) is town because of being focused instead of jumping around. Nothing at all to do with Mocsta's suspicions of rsoultin that mderg himself seems to agree with strongly enough to vote.

Does anyone else see that?

@Koshi, I see what you're saying now. I guess I don't expect everyone to solve the game by POE, I know that I don't. Not opposed to the rest of what you're saying though. Thanks for explaining your prplhz/mderg thing earlier, by the way, that really helped. I had missed rsoultin asking for your prplhz read.

rsoultin read progression was something like: didn't like the serial killer post to rsoultin feels passive-aggressive, so doesn't look like town rsoultin.
I guess that's pretty close to thread sentiment but I've never claimed that I didn't sheep.

My townread on Mocsta is largely based on his rsoultin case. I think that says enough.
On February 08 2018 00:54 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.

That point is just semantics, though. Mocsta knowing where he was going was in no way about him making clear and concise posts.
On February 08 2018 00:58 Trfel wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:53 mderg wrote:
On February 08 2018 00:14 Trfel wrote:
@Conversion, fair enough, I see that.

Personally I'm not a fan of his read progression on rsoultin. Feels like he goes from nothing to serial killer post was exaggerated to I see some of Mocsta's stuff (but the quality/accuracy of the read doesn't make me townread Mocsta) to passive-aggressiveness to not town rsoultin. Feels like following thread sentiment without adding much.

The Mocsta thing really sticks out to me. Did mderg agree with Mocsta's case? It seems like he did, since he was saying that he was seeing it and the biggest reasons he (mderg) is suspicious of rsoultin for are in it. But his own read on Mocsta is that he (Mocsta) is town because of being focused instead of jumping around. Nothing at all to do with Mocsta's suspicions of rsoultin that mderg himself seems to agree with strongly enough to vote.

Does anyone else see that?

@Koshi, I see what you're saying now. I guess I don't expect everyone to solve the game by POE, I know that I don't. Not opposed to the rest of what you're saying though. Thanks for explaining your prplhz/mderg thing earlier, by the way, that really helped. I had missed rsoultin asking for your prplhz read.

rsoultin read progression was something like: didn't like the serial killer post to rsoultin feels passive-aggressive, so doesn't look like town rsoultin.
I guess that's pretty close to thread sentiment but I've never claimed that I didn't sheep.

My townread on Mocsta is largely based on his rsoultin case. I think that says enough.
The last sentence, I don't see that at all in your filter. You've said that your townread on Mocsta is due to staying focused and not jumping around like he did last game as mafia.
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On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.

Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.
To me this doesn't say anything about what you think about his case/read on rsoultin itself, it talks about the way he's pushing (focused, with direction vs opportunistic, pushing everyone). Still listening if I am missing something though.

Heading out for class, voting mderg for now. The above seems very inconsistent. Mderg also doesn't seem to care if people are making reads and sharing thoughts that he agrees with; it doesn't affect his read on the person who posted the thoughts at all.
On February 08 2018 01:06 Koshi wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:31 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:45 Damdred wrote:
Mderg pretend I havent read the game to a deep level,. If what Koshi says isnt true can you give me your sxum reada with a condensed reason for each?

rsoultin: Feels like a completely different person than last game. Much less nice and inclusiv, much more aggressive in questioning people.

Koshi: Seems like he is just trying to lynch by number of posts. Feels lazy unlike town hero koshi.

darthfoley: Scumread on Mocsta for what I consider dumb reasons, omgus on Trfel, rayn and Mocsta and some general "bitchiness"

Mderg, you understand this read on me feels extremely shallow? I made it very obvious why I am lynching into you guys. Very very obvious.
On February 08 2018 01:07 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:58 Trfel wrote:
On February 08 2018 00:53 mderg wrote:
On February 08 2018 00:14 Trfel wrote:
@Conversion, fair enough, I see that.

Personally I'm not a fan of his read progression on rsoultin. Feels like he goes from nothing to serial killer post was exaggerated to I see some of Mocsta's stuff (but the quality/accuracy of the read doesn't make me townread Mocsta) to passive-aggressiveness to not town rsoultin. Feels like following thread sentiment without adding much.

The Mocsta thing really sticks out to me. Did mderg agree with Mocsta's case? It seems like he did, since he was saying that he was seeing it and the biggest reasons he (mderg) is suspicious of rsoultin for are in it. But his own read on Mocsta is that he (Mocsta) is town because of being focused instead of jumping around. Nothing at all to do with Mocsta's suspicions of rsoultin that mderg himself seems to agree with strongly enough to vote.

Does anyone else see that?

@Koshi, I see what you're saying now. I guess I don't expect everyone to solve the game by POE, I know that I don't. Not opposed to the rest of what you're saying though. Thanks for explaining your prplhz/mderg thing earlier, by the way, that really helped. I had missed rsoultin asking for your prplhz read.

rsoultin read progression was something like: didn't like the serial killer post to rsoultin feels passive-aggressive, so doesn't look like town rsoultin.
I guess that's pretty close to thread sentiment but I've never claimed that I didn't sheep.

My townread on Mocsta is largely based on his rsoultin case. I think that says enough.
The last sentence, I don't see that at all in your filter. You've said that your townread on Mocsta is due to staying focused and not jumping around like he did last game as mafia.
On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.

Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch.
To me this doesn't say anything about what you think about his case/read on rsoultin itself, it talks about the way he's pushing (focused, with direction vs opportunistic, pushing everyone). Still listening if I am missing something though.

Heading out for class, voting mderg for now. The above seems very inconsistent. Mderg also doesn't seem to care if people are making reads and sharing thoughts that he agrees with; it doesn't affect his read on the person who posted the thoughts at all.

I can actually see why you don't see it in my filter. I didn't really mention that because in my mind it was self explaining but if you're not in my mind it's probably not.
On February 08 2018 01:10 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 01:06 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 00:31 mderg wrote:
On February 07 2018 22:45 Damdred wrote:
Mderg pretend I havent read the game to a deep level,. If what Koshi says isnt true can you give me your sxum reada with a condensed reason for each?

rsoultin: Feels like a completely different person than last game. Much less nice and inclusiv, much more aggressive in questioning people.

Koshi: Seems like he is just trying to lynch by number of posts. Feels lazy unlike town hero koshi.

darthfoley: Scumread on Mocsta for what I consider dumb reasons, omgus on Trfel, rayn and Mocsta and some general "bitchiness"

Mderg, you understand this read on me feels extremely shallow? I made it very obvious why I am lynching into you guys. Very very obvious.

Apart from not really being in the game I didn't see any obvious reasons
On February 08 2018 01:18 Conversion wrote:
I wrote a big post on what I didn't like with rsoultin's post here:

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On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.




but I lost it in refreshing the thread maybe? I am sad.

The point was summed up to be she was at earlier day thinking I was scum for missing posts that could have been met with more scrutiny in filters/reading the thread, and even repeated saying that it was not great behavior (although NAI), and then proceeded to do it with Koshi.
On February 08 2018 01:37 Trfel wrote:
Mderg, what do you think about rsoultin's points on darthfoley?
On February 08 2018 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
You can press back and get it back
On February 08 2018 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.


I think the problem here is when I originally saw koshi's post on mderg's list post I was typing up a post to the effect of there's a lot of nulls which isn't the same as a lot of scumreads, but realized that I didn't disagree with Koshi's conclusion so there was no real need to correct him on that. So in my head I'd already commented when I hadn't actually already commented.

The irony is you said essentially the same thing as I did about his list post with way more words.
On February 08 2018 02:23 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 01:18 Conversion wrote:
I wrote a big post on what I didn't like with rsoultin's post here:

On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.




but I lost it in refreshing the thread maybe? I am sad.

The point was summed up to be she was at earlier day thinking I was scum for missing posts that could have been met with more scrutiny in filters/reading the thread, and even repeated saying that it was not great behavior (although NAI), and then proceeded to do it with Koshi.


I know, ironic, isn't it? lol

To be fair, he posted that after another post that really wasn't talking about it so I got confused how they were related, but I see no point in talking about it anymore. Apparently I'm an awful baddy for not realizing he wasn't responding to darth foley's most recent post, but the one before. Whatevs.
On February 08 2018 02:31 rsoultin wrote:
As for the truffle read, it's just that he used to have a tendency to focus on tangibles more than intangibles. By that I mean inconsistencies between actions and words, or words and words, kind of like he's still doing throughout the game. So it's actually unusual (but only weakly so given this is a years' old meta read as both he and I have said) that someone posting about intangibles about how I feel within the game vs how I feel within other games would be that convincing to him. Townreading you for it is completely within expectations and he should anyway because he's awesome like me except when I'm not.

@Truffle, that's because Conversion wasn't my main scumread when I was voting ritoky. You have the timing off, perhaps because I poorly communicated it.

I was talking about the point in the game when I posted the below post:

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On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.
On February 08 2018 02:33 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 01:37 Trfel wrote:
Mderg, what do you think about rsoultin's points on darthfoley?


    On February 08 2018 02:41 Koshi wrote:
    ##Unvote
    ##Vote: mderg

    rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
    Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
    mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, koshi
    prplhz (0):: Koshi
    Conversion (0): rsoultin
    Holyflare (0): mderg
    ritoky (0): rsoultin
    darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet

    Not Voting (3): Damdred, Rels, prplhz
On February 08 2018 02:45 Koshi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: mderg


Both wagons like fine as I think mafia lies within Rels/Damdred/mderg/prplhz and HF.

So congratz to the ones who get their lynch.
I would never lynch rsoultin today. Way too much value that gets lost if she is town. Wayyyy too much value. Only lynch rsoultin if you believe you will be able to read mderg better as this game progresses or have a townread on him.

I also still haven't read a decent case on why rsoultin is mafia. The best points I saw were meta related. All the rest is not that brilliant.
On February 08 2018 02:50 Koshi wrote:
It's not that I am certain mderg is mafia. But in my opinion he is not solving the game as a townie would.
What did he achieve today, is he closer to figuring out this puzzle, has he ever gave you the feeling he is closing down on mafia? And if he didn't, is he at least trying to clear some townies so his PoE pool gets smaller?
Which waves did he make, did he piss someone off by poking and prodding?
Did he help town develop reads? Was a a value to town? Did somebody ever had a "aha that's a good point moment"


Like... I am not sure he is mafia. But he didn't try hard enough and when we aren't 100% sure on day 1. Lynch question marks. Don't lynch easy to read players who deliver shittons of content.
On February 08 2018 02:56 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 02:45 Koshi wrote:
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##Vote: mderg


Both wagons like fine as I think mafia lies within Rels/Damdred/mderg/prplhz and HF.

So congratz to the ones who get their lynch.
I would never lynch rsoultin today. Way too much value that gets lost if she is town. Wayyyy too much value. Only lynch rsoultin if you believe you will be able to read mderg better as this game progresses or have a townread on him.

I also still haven't read a decent case on why rsoultin is mafia. The best points I saw were meta related. All the rest is not that brilliant.


<3! Not game-related, but warm fuzzies are always nice.
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

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On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
Thanks rsoultin for your clarification on Truffle's play. Appreciate content like that even if you aren't obligated to answer me.
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.

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On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?

Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.

Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.
On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.
On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?

Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.

Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.


What?
On February 08 2018 03:11 Damdred wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?

Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.

Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.


What?


I said your name and you shot up some strange post that seemed to be towards me when i was just saying hi and wanting to talk
On February 08 2018 03:12 rsoultin wrote:
These are the only kinda sparkly things that I think could indicate a town mderg. Particularly the second, because it was where my mind was at regarding mocsta and his play from Newbie before he started diverting onto other things.

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On February 06 2018 20:07 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.

I'll read Mocsta's case soon.


Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make


That doesn't look like great reasoning to me


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On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.
On February 08 2018 03:14 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:11 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?

Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.

Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.


What?


I said your name and you shot up some strange post that seemed to be towards me when i was just saying hi and wanting to talk


Oh yeah sorry. That was me getting aggravated at people for shitting on my attempts to relook at the game and leave reads before I flipped, not aimed at you. I was trying to explain why I was leaving.

What is it that you want to talk about?
On February 08 2018 03:20 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:12 rsoultin wrote:
These are the only kinda sparkly things that I think could indicate a town mderg. Particularly the second, because it was where my mind was at regarding mocsta and his play from Newbie before he started diverting onto other things.

On February 06 2018 20:07 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.

I'll read Mocsta's case soon.


Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make


That doesn't look like great reasoning to me


On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


Yeah, way more comments and dissenting opinions in Newbie. I'll just link to the filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?user=mderg&page=2

I don't know that it for sure makes him scum, but between that and the fact that there's much more in the way of actual reads in that shorter list post makes me think he's our best chance of lynching scum today.
On February 08 2018 03:21 Damdred wrote:
idk its a bit strange to me that when i got back you didnt jump on me to try to talk to me... and its annoying when i have postes very few have talked to me.

You didnt evwm talk to me about mocsta or tell me i was wrong and read the thread more idk.
On February 08 2018 03:21 Koshi wrote:
Well if both mderg and rsoultin are town we have to start looking at rayn and HF who has been avoiding each other I feel like. Not sure if that is completely correct but when I didn't do anything they did push this thread towards a place I didn't like. Which is darthfoley/rsoultin mafia.

I don't buy that.

I might be wrong though.
On February 08 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
HF mafia who lets rayn do the driving D1. Seems plausible.
On February 08 2018 03:23 Koshi wrote:
Tinfoil though. I like rayn atm. But I suck at reading him lately. Well... I just always read him town.
On February 08 2018 03:24 Koshi wrote:
Well I still live in a world in which prplhz and mderg are mafia.
On February 08 2018 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:21 Damdred wrote:
idk its a bit strange to me that when i got back you didnt jump on me to try to talk to me... and its annoying when i have postes very few have talked to me.

You didnt evwm talk to me about mocsta or tell me i was wrong and read the thread more idk.


Why should I have done that? I don't fundamentally disagree with you about mocsta.
On February 08 2018 03:25 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
HF mafia who lets rayn do the driving D1. Seems plausible.


This I could definitely see.
On February 08 2018 03:28 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:21 Damdred wrote:
idk its a bit strange to me that when i got back you didnt jump on me to try to talk to me... and its annoying when i have postes very few have talked to me.

You didnt evwm talk to me about mocsta or tell me i was wrong and read the thread more idk.


Why should I have done that? I don't fundamentally disagree with you about mocsta.


Although that does remind me that I did actually have a question for you.

I think ritoky looks good this game. He and Joni are probably my biggest townreads. So what is it that you don't like about ritoky?
On February 08 2018 03:29 Koshi wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:25 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
HF mafia who lets rayn do the driving D1. Seems plausible.


This I could definitely see.

mderg is more likely mafia.
On February 08 2018 03:33 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:29 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:25 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
HF mafia who lets rayn do the driving D1. Seems plausible.


This I could definitely see.

mderg is more likely mafia.


I have no intention of lynching (or probably more accurately trying to lynch) holyflare today, so no worries. Last game proved to me in spades that him taking a back seat and being wrong do not necessarily make him scum. It just would be a convenient thing for a scum Holyflare to do if Joni's intent on lynching town. Thought filed away for later. I'm not really convinced that darth foley is town.
On February 08 2018 03:34 Koshi wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:33 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:29 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:25 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
HF mafia who lets rayn do the driving D1. Seems plausible.


This I could definitely see.

mderg is more likely mafia.


I have no intention of lynching (or probably more accurately trying to lynch) holyflare today, so no worries. Last game proved to me in spades that him taking a back seat and being wrong do not necessarily make him scum. It just would be a convenient thing for a scum Holyflare to do if Joni's intent on lynching town. Thought filed away for later. I'm not really convinced that darth foley is town.

He is atm.
On February 08 2018 03:35 prplhz wrote:
I don't think rsoultin nor mderg are mafia. I don't like the current wagons.
On February 08 2018 03:36 prplhz wrote:
And I believe that I am town so that's the three most likely lynches out of the window an hour before deadline.

Who's up for shennanies???

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On February 08 2018 03:39 prplhz wrote:
Lets lynch like Trfel or... Rels?
On February 08 2018 03:40 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:39 prplhz wrote:
Lets lynch like Trfel or... Rels?


I don't want to lynch Truffle.

You and Rels are mostly on the same level for me. So...meh. Why isn't mderg scum, prp?
    On February 08 2018 03:43 prplhz wrote:
    ##Vote Trfel
    rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
    Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
    mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, koshi
    trfel (1): prplhz
    prplhz (0):: Koshi
    Conversion (0): rsoultin
    Holyflare (0): mderg
    ritoky (0): rsoultin
    darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet

    Not Voting (2): Damdred, Rels
On February 08 2018 03:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he wasnt doing the thing that makes him an easy townread when i was in thread anyway. After reading his later content he did a couple of the things so hes probably town.
On February 08 2018 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he wasnt doing the thing that makes him an easy townread when i was in thread anyway. After reading his later content he did a couple of the things so hes probably town.


What are those things? I mean, I think you've mentioned a meta read that you don't want to fully disclose (correct me if I'm wrong) but surely there's something you can point to that changed your mind?
On February 08 2018 03:56 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he wasnt doing the thing that makes him an easy townread when i was in thread anyway. After reading his later content he did a couple of the things so hes probably town.


What are those things? I mean, I think you've mentioned a meta read that you don't want to fully disclose (correct me if I'm wrong) but surely there's something you can point to that changed your mind?


Actually, also why you had him scum earlier, too.
On February 08 2018 03:57 Koshi wrote:
I am off playing soccer. I will be pretty mad if we dont lynch one out of prplhz or mderg. I am ok with rsoultin even though I think she is town. But it might give some closure to some townies.

If we lynch mderg/prplhz I will care tomorrow. Otherwise not so much. Not a threat but more a promise to myself. I wanted my filter to be less than 20 posts and I failed.
On February 08 2018 03:58 Koshi wrote:
These posts from prplhz are so minimal it takes balls to play like that as mafia. Must be said.
On February 08 2018 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Just lynch mderg. Easy.


Quick question for brownie points:
Who has received the most (easy) townreads from different players in this game.

I think I know and it is weird. Got to look into that.
On February 08 2018 04:06 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.


yes, it was I! I still think that inconsistency is very weird, even after he explained it. I kinda bought it but not really

Catching up now 1 hour before deadline
On February 08 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he wasnt doing the thing that makes him an easy townread when i was in thread anyway. After reading his later content he did a couple of the things so hes probably town.


What are those things? I mean, I think you've mentioned a meta read that you don't want to fully disclose (correct me if I'm wrong) but surely there's something you can point to that changed your mind?


I cant go into to much detail or ritoky will change how he plays to mimic.

He had a few posts that changed my mind about him. His last post about if we have to shenanigans onto him so be it etc., felt like a typical martyr ritoky post makes as town.

That was the point where i really lost any doubt.

As for initially he was a bit meh opening up and seemed lazy but I wasnt here for most of hia filter so was pretty early for me I think.
On February 08 2018 04:12 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


I really think you're town. Don't let me down plz
On February 08 2018 04:14 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:21 Koshi wrote:
Well if both mderg and rsoultin are town we have to start looking at rayn and HF who has been avoiding each other I feel like. Not sure if that is completely correct but when I didn't do anything they did push this thread towards a place I didn't like. Which is darthfoley/rsoultin mafia.

I don't buy that.

I might be wrong though.


This is actually quite an astute observation
On February 08 2018 04:15 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:36 prplhz wrote:
And I believe that I am town so that's the three most likely lynches out of the window an hour before deadline.

Who's up for shennanies???


I kind of like this post.

/s
On February 08 2018 04:16 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:39 prplhz wrote:
Lets lynch like Trfel or... Rels?


You and I are the only people who don't like Trfel atm
On February 08 2018 04:17 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:15 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:36 prplhz wrote:
And I believe that I am town so that's the three most likely lynches out of the window an hour before deadline.

Who's up for shennanies???


I kind of like this post.

/s


Why?
On February 08 2018 04:17 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Just lynch mderg. Easy.


Quick question for brownie points:
Who has received the most (easy) townreads from different players in this game.

I think I know and it is weird. Got to look into that.


Mocsta
On February 08 2018 04:18 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 23:23 prplhz wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later.

Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation

this is a 100% mafia post for 2 reasons.
first on is he "believes" i am wrong. :D

Kind of like this post.



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On February 08 2018 03:36 prplhz wrote:
And I believe that I am town so that's the three most likely lynches out of the window an hour before deadline.

Who's up for shennanies???


@rsoultin
On February 08 2018 04:18 Damdred wrote:
its sarcasm tina with the

/s
On February 08 2018 04:18 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 01:37 Trfel wrote:
Mderg, what do you think about rsoultin's points on darthfoley?

They look pretty on point...
On February 08 2018 04:19 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote:
(Wiki)
On February 08 2018 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he wasnt doing the thing that makes him an easy townread when i was in thread anyway. After reading his later content he did a couple of the things so hes probably town.


What are those things? I mean, I think you've mentioned a meta read that you don't want to fully disclose (correct me if I'm wrong) but surely there's something you can point to that changed your mind?


I cant go into to much detail or ritoky will change how he plays to mimic.

He had a few posts that changed my mind about him. His last post about if we have to shenanigans onto him so be it etc., felt like a typical martyr ritoky post makes as town.

That was the point where i really lost any doubt.

As for initially he was a bit meh opening up and seemed lazy but I wasnt here for most of hia filter so was pretty early for me I think.


Fair. It was partially curiosity and partially because I think that you being wrong on both me and ritoky as town would be pretty unlikely. Probably a little more curiosity because you posted something that I think you'd probably never post as scum. But I'm really not sure who it is that you actually want to lynch right now?

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On February 08 2018 04:20 Trfel wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:18 mderg wrote:
On February 08 2018 01:37 Trfel wrote:
Mderg, what do you think about rsoultin's points on darthfoley?

They look pretty on point...
And your vote remains, or... ?
On February 08 2018 04:20 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:18 Damdred wrote:
its sarcasm tina with the

/s


Oh lol >< so that's a thing? Good to know.
On February 08 2018 04:23 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

What's your point here?
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm
On February 08 2018 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
@df

And you can adjust the 'tempted' part to I'm resistant to lynching you today because of ritoky.

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On February 07 2018 21:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:
maybe I like rayn again


I'm tempted to sit on you because of ritoky. Your reads still seem to change based on others' reads on you, though. Or at least on people scumreading you. That resembles your scum play to me. If you have town games that show you kinda OMGUS your way through games, could you link one of them, please? I'll follow up eventually if I don't get lynched today, but my bruised ego would prefer a tidy collection of correct reads to leave town with, and I doubt I'll have the time before deadline to pursue that avenue.

On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:23 mderg wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.

What's your point here?


That I thinkbyou are wrong on your scum read on koshi?
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

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On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.
On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here.
On February 08 2018 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


I really can't decide on mocsta. The sudden Joni vote looks kind of towny to me. The pushing one thing then shifting to you for NAI reasons matches his scum meta, and yeah my silly he shouldn't be antagonizing me reason when he knows better if he's town. I think I'd rather not try to lynch him until I've seen more from him.
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign
On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here.


That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then?
On February 08 2018 04:30 Damdred wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


I really can't decide on mocsta. The sudden Joni vote looks kind of towny to me. The pushing one thing then shifting to you for NAI reasons matches his scum meta, and yeah my silly he shouldn't be antagonizing me reason when he knows better if he's town. I think I'd rather not try to lynch him until I've seen more from him.


Explain to me why he isnt vting you then XD.

Whatvdo you think of mderg now?
On February 08 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


I really think you're town. Don't let me down plz


If you are saying this point I brought up is bringing your opinion of me down, I am just saying I feel as if this could be a possibility. Who knows, though.
On February 08 2018 04:30 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:06 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.


yes, it was I! I still think that inconsistency is very weird, even after he explained it. I kinda bought it but not really

Catching up now 1 hour before deadline

still no actual inconsistency there.
On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.
On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.

This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)

For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.
On February 08 2018 04:32 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:30 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


I really can't decide on mocsta. The sudden Joni vote looks kind of towny to me. The pushing one thing then shifting to you for NAI reasons matches his scum meta, and yeah my silly he shouldn't be antagonizing me reason when he knows better if he's town. I think I'd rather not try to lynch him until I've seen more from him.


Explain to me why he isnt vting you then XD.

Whatvdo you think of mderg now?


I don't know what you mean? That's ironically one of the reasons I'm leery of him.

The second is not something I'll answer right now.
On February 08 2018 04:33 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


I really think you're town. Don't let me down plz


If you are saying this point I brought up is bringing your opinion of me down, I am just saying I feel as if this could be a possibility. Who knows, though.


No, i'm saying it's bringing my opinion of you up. Sorry for the confusion.

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but now i'm worried that you care about my opinion. rats!
On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign


Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case??
On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.


Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me..

On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it.

On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision...

Ugh.
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On February 08 2018 04:34 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.

This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)

For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.


This is blatantly misrepresenting my play given the whole reason I was even on scum D1 last game rather than BTDT was due to my two top townreads either townreading BTDT (Damdred) or scumreading you (KSC).
On February 08 2018 04:36 Damdred wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


I really can't decide on mocsta. The sudden Joni vote looks kind of towny to me. The pushing one thing then shifting to you for NAI reasons matches his scum meta, and yeah my silly he shouldn't be antagonizing me reason when he knows better if he's town. I think I'd rather not try to lynch him until I've seen more from him.


Explain to me why he isnt vting you then XD.

Whatvdo you think of mderg now?


I don't know what you mean? That's ironically one of the reasons I'm leery of him.

The second is not something I'll answer right now.


why not? its literally 30 minites before eod and hes being supet ballsey and saying he doesnt want to lynch the only person who has legit chance of going over him...

You should give your thougts so i can draw conclussions
On February 08 2018 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.


Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me..

On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it.

On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision...

Ugh.


-squints at- That just sounds like you should be voting me. I don't see what the waffle is about.
On February 08 2018 04:37 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.

This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)

For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.


This is blatantly misrepresenting my play given the whole reason I was even on scum D1 last game rather than BTDT was due to my two top townreads either townreading BTDT (Damdred) or scumreading you (KSC).


Fake news! Point noted though. You lived for a while after that and I felt as if you had more control over the game. Granted, that was a newbie game without Koshi/rayn.

Idk, maybe i'm just trying to shore up my confidence on you given that it's so tempting to town read you for activity
On February 08 2018 04:37 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:36 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


I really can't decide on mocsta. The sudden Joni vote looks kind of towny to me. The pushing one thing then shifting to you for NAI reasons matches his scum meta, and yeah my silly he shouldn't be antagonizing me reason when he knows better if he's town. I think I'd rather not try to lynch him until I've seen more from him.


Explain to me why he isnt vting you then XD.

Whatvdo you think of mderg now?


I don't know what you mean? That's ironically one of the reasons I'm leery of him.

The second is not something I'll answer right now.


why not? its literally 30 minites before eod and hes being supet ballsey and saying he doesnt want to lynch the only person who has legit chance of going over him...

You should give your thougts so i can draw conclussions


-_- Really, Ian. I wanted his response first do you have to ruin everything?
On February 08 2018 04:37 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here.


That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then?

I think I might want to lynch darthfoley
On February 08 2018 04:37 darthfoley wrote:
Shit we're less than 30 min away from deadline
On February 08 2018 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Either rsoultin or df.
Neither of prplhz or mderg is scum.

I have no time to write more.
On February 08 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign


Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case??

On February 08 2018 04:38 Damdred wrote:
to be fair about last game tina did get emotionally distraught about killing me personally and tried to bring my murderer to juatice to make up for the heinois wrongs she did
On February 08 2018 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Either rsoultin or df.
Neither of prplhz or mderg is scum.

I have no time to write more.


Also no time to be caught up or to realize you're basing your entire vote on me (I presume) based on not reading the post where I literally quoted my df filter dive to you, but whatever.
On February 08 2018 04:39 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:38 Damdred wrote:
to be fair about last game tina did get emotionally distraught about killing me personally and tried to bring my murderer to juatice to make up for the heinois wrongs she did


And I would have, too, if not for those meddling kids!
On February 08 2018 04:40 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign


Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case??



Was just talking about from my POV. I remember specific things koshi/conversion/rayn/prplhz have said without having to check their filters. I am not on the rsoultin wagon because of you. I came to my conclusion on my own.
On February 08 2018 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
I'll vote to save the talking people to kill the non talking people. Honestly haven't been able to catch up and read into mderg or prplhz though. Just finishing work
On February 08 2018 04:40 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:37 mderg wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here.


That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then?

I think I might want to lynch darthfoley


Meh fuck it. Not lynching you. I really don't think I want to lynch DF either, though.
On February 08 2018 04:40 Damdred wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:37 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:36 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


I really can't decide on mocsta. The sudden Joni vote looks kind of towny to me. The pushing one thing then shifting to you for NAI reasons matches his scum meta, and yeah my silly he shouldn't be antagonizing me reason when he knows better if he's town. I think I'd rather not try to lynch him until I've seen more from him.


Explain to me why he isnt vting you then XD.

Whatvdo you think of mderg now?


I don't know what you mean? That's ironically one of the reasons I'm leery of him.

The second is not something I'll answer right now.


why not? its literally 30 minites before eod and hes being supet ballsey and saying he doesnt want to lynch the only person who has legit chance of going over him...

You should give your thougts so i can draw conclussions


-_- Really, Ian. I wanted his response first do you have to ruin everything?


Hes answered now
On February 08 2018 04:41 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.


Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me..

On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it.

On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision...

Ugh.


-squints at- That just sounds like you should be voting me. I don't see what the waffle is about.


You can look into my meta (past all the unfun, toxic, ragey bullshit) and you will see that by nature I am waffley. But you are right, I will remain steadfast in voting you and just have more confidence in my conclusion.
On February 08 2018 04:41 mderg wrote:
Yeah, I'm feeling this lynch

##vote: darthfoley
On February 08 2018 04:41 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:40 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:37 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:36 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:32 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg

The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.

Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm


I really can't decide on mocsta. The sudden Joni vote looks kind of towny to me. The pushing one thing then shifting to you for NAI reasons matches his scum meta, and yeah my silly he shouldn't be antagonizing me reason when he knows better if he's town. I think I'd rather not try to lynch him until I've seen more from him.


Explain to me why he isnt vting you then XD.

Whatvdo you think of mderg now?


I don't know what you mean? That's ironically one of the reasons I'm leery of him.

The second is not something I'll answer right now.


why not? its literally 30 minites before eod and hes being supet ballsey and saying he doesnt want to lynch the only person who has legit chance of going over him...

You should give your thougts so i can draw conclussions


-_- Really, Ian. I wanted his response first do you have to ruin everything?


Hes answered now


Helpful as always.
On February 08 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
For the record my current vote means nothing.
    On February 08 2018 04:41 rsoultin wrote:
    ##unvote
    On February 08 2018 04:42 mderg wrote:
    ##unvote
    ##vote: darthfoley
    On February 08 2018 04:43 rsoultin wrote:
    ##vote prplhz
    rsoultin (3): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
    Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
    mderg (4):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, koshi
    trfel (1): prplhz
    prplhz (1):: Koshi, rsoultin
    Conversion (0): rsoultin
    Holyflare (0): mderg
    ritoky (0): rsoultin
    darthfoley (1): raynpelikoneet, mderg

    Not Voting (2): Damdred, Rels

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On February 08 2018 04:42 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:41 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.


Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me..

On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it.

On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision...

Ugh.


-squints at- That just sounds like you should be voting me. I don't see what the waffle is about.


You can look into my meta (past all the unfun, toxic, ragey bullshit) and you will see that by nature I am waffley. But you are right, I will remain steadfast in voting you and just have more confidence in my conclusion.


Lol I'm doing wonders for myself this game, aren't I? Mderg's probably not scum though so there's that.
On February 08 2018 04:42 Damdred wrote:
Interesting both tina and mderg are kinda trying to suicide...hmmm
On February 08 2018 04:42 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 06 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)


2 and 3 are good points. 1 is not.


lmao I made this post and you acknowledged it before you even touched rsoultin in your filter. Stop lying man
On February 08 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
Df how can you say you don't remember anything I wrote when i started the wagon on your biggest scum read, made several cases on her and you also spent a while flaming me?
On February 08 2018 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=20#383

??
On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.

But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/
On February 08 2018 04:45 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign


Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case??



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On February 08 2018 04:42 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)


2 and 3 are good points. 1 is not.


lmao I made this post and you acknowledged it before you even touched rsoultin in your filter. Stop lying man


I was scum reading rsoultin before you even touched her in your filter. Don't claim credit where you deserve now. Just because I didn't vote her before you doesn't mean I sheeped you in any way, shape or form
On February 08 2018 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:42 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)


2 and 3 are good points. 1 is not.


lmao I made this post and you acknowledged it before you even touched rsoultin in your filter. Stop lying man


No wagon forms until I elaborated and posted about it. Which is again what rayn scum reads you for. You're trying to take credit for my push but you didn't push anything.
On February 08 2018 04:45 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=20#383

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Oh, yeah that. That was pretty shit actually lol. Half of it was based on this idea that my ritoky scumread was an association read.
On February 08 2018 04:46 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=20#383

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Please believe me when I tell you that I never saw this post lol. I shit you not. Gimme a minute
On February 08 2018 04:47 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:42 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)


2 and 3 are good points. 1 is not.


lmao I made this post and you acknowledged it before you even touched rsoultin in your filter. Stop lying man


No wagon forms until I elaborated and posted about it. Which is again what rayn scum reads you for. You're trying to take credit for my push but you didn't push anything.


I'm not claiming credit for starting the wagon. I am saying that it's unfair to imply that I somehow sheeped your reasoning when I stated my reasoning before you did.
On February 08 2018 04:47 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=20#383

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Oh, yeah that. That was pretty shit actually lol. Half of it was based on this idea that my ritoky scumread was an association read.


Like you honestly could have said the same thing just by saying I didn't have a clear scumread on Conversion. Quoting the posts where I was talking about poking him for a joke and talking about ritoky not pursuing the one read that appeared to actually be a scumread of his is pretty disingenous.
On February 08 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
"I scum read her first!" is also SUCH a bs retort to my question on why am I not town to you when I'm pushing and did in fact start the wagon on rsoul, your biggest scum read.

Saying you did it first means nothing. If I did push your scum read I should be much higher up your town list and more importantly your shade throwing at me shouldn't exist because all I've done is push your scum read!
On February 08 2018 04:49 Damdred wrote:
so do you think he is scum hf?
On February 08 2018 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:49 Damdred wrote:
so do you think he is scum hf?


I have all game boi :D
On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.
On February 08 2018 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
"I scum read her first!" is also SUCH a bs retort to my question on why am I not town to you when I'm pushing and did in fact start the wagon on rsoul, your biggest scum read.

Saying you did it first means nothing. If I did push your scum read I should be much higher up your town list and more importantly your shade throwing at me shouldn't exist because all I've done is push your scum read!


Look my man; it will probably infuriate you when I tell you that I didn't see your spoilered post. I catch up in bed at like 5:30AM before school and I missed it.

If it makes you feel better, I read the post and I like it quite a bit. If I were to redo my reads list, you'd be higher on the town side. Thanks for clarifying
On February 08 2018 04:51 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:49 Damdred wrote:
so do you think he is scum hf?


I have all game boi :D


You're voting for Koshi...?
On February 08 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


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On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


!!!!!

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On February 08 2018 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
For the record my current vote means nothing.

On February 08 2018 04:52 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:45 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=20#383

??


Oh, yeah that. That was pretty shit actually lol. Half of it was based on this idea that my ritoky scumread was an association read.


This is not what I understood HF's point to be at all
On February 08 2018 04:52 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


!!!!!

!
On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though.
On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't read him.
On February 08 2018 04:52 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


!!!!!


You're saying this but you aren't consolidating on a wagon or trying to push a wagon
On February 08 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Heres the problem hf/df i do not thinl at this time tina is getting lynched unless hf switches and i hammer.

But we do need to consolidate at this time. For thw record tinas postings havent been bad since i got back
On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though.
On February 08 2018 04:53 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:52 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


On February 08 2018 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
This is distracting from the more relevant fact that Mderg is town and being lynched

and frankly I could care less whose e-penis is bigger.


!!!!!


You're saying this but you aren't consolidating on a wagon or trying to push a wagon


I'm voting prp instead of piling onto your sorry ass.
On February 08 2018 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
If prplhz is mafia then he has big boy balls. I would be surprised. He's had a couple out of the box reads (namely scum!Trfel) that I don't think a low activity mafia would care to make.
On February 08 2018 04:54 Conversion wrote:
I am being pulled into another meeting. I will remain confident per rsoultin's call out on my play and stick with my vote.

I have a good list of town reads that I will need to most likely re-evaluate during night. I hope we get more activity from the inactive players to help push town to victory.
On February 08 2018 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though.


He's pulling off his only chance for survival. No way he does that as scum.
On February 08 2018 04:55 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
If prplhz is mafia then he has big boy balls. I would be surprised. He's had a couple out of the box reads (namely scum!Trfel) that I don't think a low activity mafia would care to make.


Well I hardly know who else I'd even try to consolidate on unless it's you, which is still not something I want to do ><
On February 08 2018 04:55 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though.


...................................................................................

You'll save rsoultin even though you just claimed your claim to fame was casing her on why she's mafia... because she types words?
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On February 08 2018 04:55 Holyflare wrote:
For what reason did he give?
On February 08 2018 04:56 mderg wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though.


He's pulling off his only chance for survival. No way he does that as scum.

kind of wifom but I would tend to agree
On February 08 2018 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:55 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though.


...................................................................................

You'll save rsoultin even though you just claimed your claim to fame was casing her on why she's mafia... because she types words?
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I haven't caught up properly other than super skim and she wrote more words and came back after quitting so yes.
On February 08 2018 04:57 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:55 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though.


...................................................................................

You'll save rsoultin even though you just claimed your claim to fame was casing her on why she's mafia... because she types words?
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He did mention a page-ish back that he would consolidate to lynch non-talkers over talkers.

Or something like that.
On February 08 2018 04:57 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:56 mderg wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though.


He's pulling off his only chance for survival. No way he does that as scum.

kind of wifom but I would tend to agree

o.0 what?
On February 08 2018 04:57 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:57 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:55 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though.


...................................................................................

You'll save rsoultin even though you just claimed your claim to fame was casing her on why she's mafia... because she types words?
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He did mention a page-ish back that he would consolidate to lynch non-talkers over talkers.

Or something like that.


Idk I guess. My philosophy is lynch the person you think is most mafia.

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On February 08 2018 04:58 Damdred wrote:
i guess mderg is goimg to be the lynch today
On February 08 2018 04:58 rsoultin wrote:
@.@

we're lynching town
    On February 08 2018 04:58 Holyflare wrote:
    ##unvote
    ##vote mderg
    On February 08 2018 04:58 rsoultin wrote:
    ##unvote
    ##vote darthfoley
    On February 08 2018 04:59 Damdred wrote:
    ##vote rsoultin
    rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, damdred
    Koshi (0): Holyflare, Trfel
    mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, koshi, holyflare
    trfel (1): prplhz
    prplhz (0):: Koshi, rsoultin
    Conversion (0): rsoultin
    Holyflare (0): mderg
    ritoky (0): rsoultin
    darthfoley (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg, rsoultin

    Not Voting (1): Rels
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.

Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too.
On February 08 2018 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
vote df hurry!
On February 08 2018 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
1 minute to deadline!
On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:59 Damdred wrote:
##vote rsoultin

On February 08 2018 05:03 prplhz wrote:
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On February 08 2018 03:58 Koshi wrote:
These posts from prplhz are so minimal it takes balls to play like that as mafia. Must be said.

So either I have balls or I'm town.

Thanks for the scum read I guess!
On February 08 2018 05:04 Skynx wrote:
Night 1


[image loading]

Morgan Lagravière abandons after collision with OFNI (objet flottant non-identifié) takes out his starboard rudder.

You call that a fucking avarie?? You know back in the day people made a second fucking mast after getting dismasted and finished? Chat shit get banged little kid stick to small boats please.


mderg, the Mafia Framer as Morgan Lagravière was lynched!

This is now Night 1. You have to send night actions. Send them to both hosts please!
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