EPT[M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia - Page 23
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On February 02 2018 00:35 Skynx wrote: Slacking hard, I'll post my normal mini in an hour or so Edit: [M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia is open for signups! No, it's normal. | ||
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Holyflare
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ritoky
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Holyflare
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ritoky
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Holyflare
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Conversion
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I’m surprised rsoultin hasn’t visited the thread at all. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 07 2018 09:42 Holyflare wrote: LOL.. didnt realise that either.Literally says normal in the thread title. Maybe should have read that. ##Disarm: rsoultin lololol | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 07 2018 09:30 Holyflare wrote: Yes, insert "whether"I mean you literally write you are considering Damdred the best day 1 lynch. What I think you meant is you are considering whether he is the best day one lynch. To me, both are the same; i.e. I havent drawn a definitive conclusion. Anyways, going to ignore the now, and focus on a 3rd person re-read. | ||
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Mocsta
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DF: I am curious why you lump (Damdred, prplhz, Rels, mderg) together, presumably as a log of 1-posters.I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg. Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him. mderg doesnt belong in this category. Rels doesnt belong in this category. His post is completely NAI, and any proposed lynch this way is a veiled policy lynch. prplhz is playing within my expectation for either alignment. Damdred remains by default. DF: I don't care whom claims credit, I more care the points are a direct re-hash.Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So... 1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good? 2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse? I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you? I dont agree with your dichotomy. | ||
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prplhz
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On February 07 2018 08:32 darthfoley wrote: I don't think mafia!Koshi goes through all this effort It's more like proving someone wrong than anything else which is something Koshi loves. Doesn't point either way for me. | ||
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prplhz
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On February 07 2018 09:35 Holyflare wrote: Has anyone in this game thrown out rsoultin being town other than koshi? Hey, I did! | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 06 2018 23:13 prplhz wrote: so ritoky is town because he shares similar reads and timing; but trfel you dont like?I town read ritoky because our reads sort of overlap as well as their timing. I don't like Trfel but I guess I'm the only one. His play seems kind of sideliney and too cautious, everybody agreeing with him seems to calm him down rather than fire him up. I also don't like this question about Koshi because ritoky's read on Koshi was obviously based one just one single post with no real content, of course it wasn't serious or anything. Not reading too much into the rsoultin/raynpelikoneet thing. For now they're both town. Did you know trfel indicated ritoky is town because they also shared similar reads at similar points in time? It appears you are aware of this because you add the tidbit about trfel should be firing up. I would like to know what about trfel indicates he should fire up - because everything you are stating indicates trfel/ritoky should both be town. | ||
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Mocsta
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Why did you vote rsoultin? You were leaning town yesterday? | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 07 2018 07:42 Trfel wrote: Like.. what you are slamming Koshi for, is just as applicable to you..Could lynch rsoultin, darthfoley, maybe Koshi. Darthfoley has been extremely underwhelming but I don't think that makes him mafia; more concerned that he is suspicious and willing to lynch a ton of people and it doesn't look like he's thinking about it at all. With Koshi, I don't like how he's voting for mderg but hasn't said any reason why. He did however say why he doesn't like prplhz (which pending explanation I don't think was a good reason). If he wants to lynch mderg, why wouldn't he explain why? Or if he is suspicious enough of prplhz to explain it, why doesn't he vote for him? In addition, he went from leaning town to green, bold town on rsoultin for seemingly no reason. The reasons he gave to fully townread rsoultin were present from the very start of the game, when Koshi left rsoultin out of his first set of townreads and only later made her even a town lean. Rsoultin didn't say much at all in between these posts, certainly little to warrant a read switch like that. But I know that it's Koshi. What do others think about him? | ||
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Trfel
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On February 07 2018 09:31 Holyflare wrote: Nothing from rsoultin, no one really pushing anything else...Also I'm officially at peak this wagon is going too fast levels. @Mocsta, I was slightly town on rsoultin, as seen here. I was convinced by Conversion's reasoning, what he said made a lot of sense to me. Koshi posted his new read change with old reasoning from the start of the game. To me that's suspicious. You can think of me what you want, I'm just curious what you think of Koshi. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 06 2018 15:00 Conversion wrote: I have read this trfel/conversion exchange a few times and think both are town (possibly conversion moreso than trfel).Right, but making arguments such as "Conversion is trying to get others to vote for rsoultin," and then quoting something that isn't clearly me trying to get others to pile on to rsoultin is just that. I'm not mad or frustrated, I just don't get why it goes from good point about something -> far fetched argument, saying I'm inconsistent in saying that I wasn't trying to get others to vote rsoultin when I really wasn't. I'm going to get some sleep anyways. I want to see what others have to say. Ending the night with decent confidence in you and Mocsta being town isn't bad for me at all. I agree trfel overplayed that point. (However, this is only applicable to trfel who at this point is coming across as a super-deep analytical player whom should know better). The way conversion handled it by pointing it out but not shitting on trfel is what makes me feel good about the exchange. TLDR: I think a mafia conversion that is town reading trfel would simply answer the question. & conversion odd filter comments could legitimately be tiredness. Heck as mafia i dont check my filter, so perhaps its more a personality thing than alignment thing. | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 07 2018 13:52 Trfel wrote: This type of comment makes me paranoid as it seems very preemptive.Nothing from rsoultin, no one really pushing anything else... @Mocsta, I was slightly town on rsoultin, as seen here. I was convinced by Conversion's reasoning, what he said made a lot of sense to me. Koshi posted his new read change with old reasoning from the start of the game. To me that's suspicious. You can think of me what you want, I'm just curious what you think of Koshi. I pinged you about rsoultin because you "snuck" a vote in, but nothing was stated in thread. I cant recall anythign Koshi has posted other than some old filters I ignored. Will update opinion once I conclude re-read. | ||
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Trfel
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On February 07 2018 14:09 Mocsta wrote: I said that because I don't really care to talk much about my alignment, just wanted to make sure that you knew that was all I had to say on the matter.This type of comment makes me paranoid as it seems very preemptive. I pinged you about rsoultin because you "snuck" a vote in, but nothing was stated in thread. I cant recall anythign Koshi has posted other than some old filters I ignored. Will update opinion once I conclude re-read. What do you think about ritoky, as well? I'm not sure I'm townreading him strongly any more but even though he's been pretty lazy I still kinda think he's town. I don't like that he seems so self-focused, spends so much time talking about himself instead of the game, but his reads seem to show actual thought, which I do like. I don't really like how Koshi is townreading rsoultin but not really doing anything at all about the lynch. Heck, I'd say Holyflare and you are doing more to avoid a rsoultin lynch despite scumreading her than Koshi is and he's townreading her. Like if I was happily confident in a small pool where mafia were, and was voting for one, and had a strong townread who was being lynched, I'd be much more passionate about it than what Koshi is doing. Feels like he's setting up a potential "I told you so" after the flip. And if it's not clear I'm not a big fan of the rsoultin lynch right now... Not sure what is better, if anything. Not that I'm not suspicious of rsoultin but the way the day has been playing out makes me very hesitant. | ||
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