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disformation
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not that I did help... or rly did anything. xD | ||
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disformation
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just felt a bit lost at times. | ||
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darthfoley
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On February 14 2018 06:31 disformation wrote: tbh some of the last part of d3, at least before I had to gfto, it felt a bit like rayn, hf and koshi arguing who hast the biggest case. so might see that. not that I did help... or rly did anything. xD Yes, unfortunately I think TL Mafia devolves into talking about who's the best player with the best case and why they're MVP. It's kind of toxic and really annoying to play against. I do this myself sometimes as well, but I think I moreso do it as a sardonic reply to people. @Mocsta and everyone: I realize my play was kind of off-meta in terms of my town play, but I really think I would've interacted with you and your posts if I had not been phone-posting and busy so much. I find it very demotivating to read a big ass case over a mobile device. I really enjoy getting down in the weeds and filter diving when I have the time to. It's just that this game I couldn't, and that annoys me. | ||
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Holyflare
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On February 14 2018 06:21 Mocsta wrote: Interesting finish I assume damdred had to post to avoid activity punishment. Anyways. Good outcome. This will be my last game. Been a pleasure, mostly. Unfortunately, i can see why TL has declined. It takes effort to play mafia in general and to be ignored / shit on under the guise of "bad play" makes that effort pointless. You (or at least I) wouldnt put up with this in real life, so why put up with it on the keyboard. Thanks again to trfel and koshi for being the only 2 of 13 that read what i wrote. Good luck for your future games. I think you're a pleasure to play with and while I may not read the entirety of your posts it's because I only have time to skim at work briefly and get the general gist of it. So I can't comment on the specifics. Sad if you don't play again. | ||
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disformation
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On February 14 2018 06:37 darthfoley wrote: Also shout out to disformation for coming into a game and picking up as if he was playing the whole time. I guess it's a bit easier when Rels doesn't actually post anything, but still well. as I commented in the game. not actually have been there d1 caused a bit of a disconnect I think. mixed up some d1 stuff multiple times. but thanks <3 | ||
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Conversion
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On February 14 2018 06:21 Mocsta wrote: Interesting finish I assume damdred had to post to avoid activity punishment. Anyways. Good outcome. This will be my last game. Been a pleasure, mostly. Unfortunately, i can see why TL has declined. It takes effort to play mafia in general and to be ignored / shit on under the guise of "bad play" makes that effort pointless. You (or at least I) wouldnt put up with this in real life, so why put up with it on the keyboard. Thanks again to trfel and koshi for being the only 2 of 13 that read what i wrote. Good luck for your future games. Hey dude! Apologies again (I know I already did, but I really am sorry) for the outburst I had. It was great playing with you, and it was actually your case that helped me get my case on rsoultin out on Day 1, even though I never said so. I'm sorry that you felt that people were shitting on you, and I definitely most likely was a part of that. Hope you eventually come back to play again! Your scum game in Newbie were super impressive, and your town game this game was just as impressive  On February 14 2018 06:53 Holyflare wrote: Also conversion. Robot conversion was super impressive. Will stick to robot conversion more most likely. And get lynched by it once it doesn't work when I'm scum  | ||
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Mocsta
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On February 14 2018 06:28 disformation wrote: This is more what i mean, yes.maybe he means like "everyone called me, town but ignored my cases & good posts"? I didn't have issues with any particular person (Conversion included), I meant literally what was stated prior. When you work full-time, to play mafia the way it was intended (i.e. = interact meaningfully everyday) takes A LOT of effort - which becomes an even larger sacrifice when you have regular commitments (e.g family) My key motivation for playing was never to "find mafia, lynch mafia". Rather, I subtly deviate to: "find mafia together, lynch mafia together" - I just have an unique way of showing it  Being out of timezone & having posts ignored (whether large or small) equates to limited satisfaction that does not justify the Perhaps voice mafia is more appropriate, but even that seems like it may not be a thing anymore? | ||
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Mocsta
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I think it would have been vastly different if town lynched rsoultin Day1 (i.e. if mderg hadnt become a wagon option). In fact, I am not entirely sure mderg/Damdred would have been lynched Day2 at all. For me, the tides of the game changed with this post (at least for me): + Show Spoiler + On February 07 2018 19:45 Koshi wrote: imo the townies this game are destroying each other. Which is fine if you come to a point we all sing kumbaya together in the end. My point on prplhz is good. Him having a problem with the bad tr from df on me without having a problem with me is also slightly more mafia. Mderg is super sideline like others have been saying. Me first though. He has no original thoughts and have had the solo "I am tired I dont want to play" post mafia makes more often than town. Damdred could be a butterfly who is now sleeping as a cocoon. But he could be mafia easily as well. Very easily. Rels w.e. We cant know. | ||
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Damdred
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Personally I hope you come back and play otherwise we would of had fun this game in same alignment. | ||
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disformation
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disformation
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also hard to actually play on the weekend when you have finally time to do all the other things you really want or need to do. | ||
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Damdred
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ritoky
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Conversion
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On February 14 2018 09:11 Damdred wrote: I think I have one more serious game left before i have to go to work, and i mean nom sick Oh yeah congratulations on the job my dude!! | ||
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ritoky
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If you're done playing then it was fun dood, hope you come back after some amount of time. If you continue, I do have 1 criticism of your play. It became hard for me to gauge scale and context with you over time. What I mean by that is that if you have someone posting a bunch of 1 liners and small posts and then they produce a wall or something in all caps, it becomes clear that there is a difference in severity or scale in this post as opposed to others. With the way you played that became difficult as a townie. You deeply researched, cased, multi-quoted, or analyzed almost everything that was being posted, which was quite impressive. But when I get a case for someone making a fart noise I began to lose the contextual significance of cases about definitive alignment shit. Because the way my brain works to some degree it begins to tell me that "these things matter equally to him because he is having the same degree of reaction." When very likely that is not the case. I guess what I am trying to say is it got near a place of boy who cried wolf with me toward the end. Where you had made every tiny thing seem so significant that when you posted about significant things it began to just feel normal instead of having a glowing sign on it. Dunno if that makes sense or you agree with it at all, but that was how I felt toward the end as a VT. | ||
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Mocsta
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I can have trouble communicating my gut feel, which tends to over compensating - cos (as HF + Rayn may remember) I used to be known for "moclogic". Either way, if only I stuck with this Day1. If only we li On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote: Minor stream of consciousness incoming. I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go. Maintaining on rsoultin pros: 1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason. 2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon. Maintaining rsoultin cons: 1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy. 2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered. Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option. mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game which I have that vibe association with him this game. df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking) rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position. conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK. other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On February 14 2018 07:26 Mocsta wrote: This is more what i mean, yes. I didn't have issues with any particular person (Conversion included), I meant literally what was stated prior. When you work full-time, to play mafia the way it was intended (i.e. = interact meaningfully everyday) takes A LOT of effort - which becomes an even larger sacrifice when you have regular commitments (e.g family) My key motivation for playing was never to "find mafia, lynch mafia". Rather, I subtly deviate to: "find mafia together, lynch mafia together" - I just have an unique way of showing it Being out of timezone & having posts ignored (whether large or small) equates to limited satisfaction that does not justify the Perhaps voice mafia is more appropriate, but even that seems like it may not be a thing anymore? Yes, it is quite hard. And it is true for many people. Some will just stop putting in effort and some (like you) will spend a lot of valuable time on the game. It is easy to get frustrated this way. | ||
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