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On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:
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As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him.
[..] Tina, im quite tired of hearing this. Let me (attempt) to put your mind at ease.
Last game, i made 2 wall of text posts. One was to vote damdred, and the other was in Lylo as a reply.
Please re look at that vote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=12#226
Please look at the wall of text in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=6#119
They are not the same whatsoever.
You are getting too fixated on a specific event (large post), and not being rational towards whether they are similar.
You say me as a good town should back off from you.. well guess what, i did.
No matter I have done, you continue to be fearful.
I could have easily left my vote on you last night.. however I did not.
Unless you genuinely think there is even a 5% chance I bussed, you need to get over this.
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On February 08 2018 19:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 19:15 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:
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As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him.
[..] Tina, im quite tired of hearing this. Let me (attempt) to put your mind at ease. Last game, i made 2 wall of text posts. One was to vote damdred, and the other was in Lylo as a reply. Please re look at that vote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=12#226Please look at the wall of text in this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=6#119They are not the same whatsoever. You are getting too fixated on a specific event (large post), and not being rational towards whether they are similar. You say me as a good town should back off from you.. well guess what, i did. No matter I have done, you continue to be fearful. I could have easily left my vote on you last night.. however I did not. Unless you genuinely think there is even a 5% chance I bussed, you need to get over this. -pokes- You're confusing my issue with you with someone else. I've maintained from the beginning that this seems like NAI posting style. My issues with you are only little doubtful tickles that aren't worth repeating unless I can't find scum elsewhere. i dont want to shit the thread with this.. im saying. look at the two posts.. its actually 100% ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE.
anyways, if its of any consolation I am finding you starting to have that aura back.
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rayn
im disappointed. I thought you were meant to be a challenge.
At least this means I have zero chance of being NK'd.
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@tina
I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor.
You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling.
The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal.
For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled).
Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197
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On February 08 2018 19:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.
framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.
gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow. Love it <b>bomb: damdred</b> uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.  you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use. That is actually true.
i've done it in multiple games.
its only happened unintentionally in a single game (unfortunately, it happened twice in that game).
If you really are concerned. i bolded a lot of shit in the scum qt from the newbie, and never in the actual game.
its actually scummy for someone to even consider it beyond a joke given how it was delivered.
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On February 08 2018 20:07 rsoultin wrote:
Pfft if mocsta is scum this game too I think I'm just never going to try to read him again. That or policy lynch him. i thought you just agreed not to think along these lines!!!
On February 08 2018 20:09 rsoultin wrote:
I actually think scumming with mocsta would be super fun. All kinds of crazy shit going down. tots <3
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On February 08 2018 19:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 19:41 Mocsta wrote:@tina I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor. You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling. The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal. For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled). Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197 ...Lol. I wouldn't use those words exactly but yes Joni and I fundamentally disagree on what makes people scum. Self-centered reads are kind of his thing. That and things like inconsistencies. What is it about you that you find weird in his post? I honestly do believe that he could scumread me just for being dismissive toward him as town. Well firstly, i take issue with the conversion town read. Lack of basis behind it and completely irrelevant to the main content of the post.. Its nitpicking but that should have been split off as a second post. Its like he wants that specifically in his filter, but to blend in.
Then when talking to. hes addressing me in an odd way. Hes buttering me up, suggesting he town reads me and wants to let me down easy by saying, your case is crap! e.g. "you havent played much with tina so it makes sense you make a case like that"... for me this is totally illogical. a good point is a good point regardless of whom.
So when he proceeds to continue the exact same points im getting alarm bells that this is non-genuine behaviour.
see.. I think a town tunneled rayn would be more than happy i was riding the same direction.. whereas this scum!rayn is trying his best to accentuate his townish traits.
Further, the item about damdred is stupid because as i pointed out prior, he answered the question for damdred, so the whole exchange is useless.
The ritoky thing is acceptable to discuss, but not worthy of a scum read.
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On February 08 2018 20:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 08 2018 20:09 rsoultin wrote:
I actually think scumming with mocsta would be super fun. All kinds of crazy shit going down. I believe you, like this game. -flicks- If you're town I'm going to enjoy post-game
leave it
hes intentionally commented on small minor things and given an mderg summary 2.0
yet has conveniently left out anything to do with the super-awesome points re: rayn + mderg prior to wagon lift off.
hes just trying to get us to bloviate our filters so people cant find the real substance when digging.
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On February 08 2018 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 19:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 19:41 Mocsta wrote:@tina I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor. You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling. The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal. For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled). Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197 ...Lol. I wouldn't use those words exactly but yes Joni and I fundamentally disagree on what makes people scum. Self-centered reads are kind of his thing. That and things like inconsistencies. What is it about you that you find weird in his post? I honestly do believe that he could scumread me just for being dismissive toward him as town. Well firstly, i take issue with the conversion town read. Lack of basis behind it and completely irrelevant to the main content of the post.. Its nitpicking but that should have been split off as a second post. Its like he wants that specifically in his filter, but to blend in. Then when talking to. hes addressing me in an odd way. Hes buttering me up, suggesting he town reads me and wants to let me down easy by saying, your case is crap! e.g. "you havent played much with tina so it makes sense you make a case like that"... for me this is totally illogical. a good point is a good point regardless of whom. So when he proceeds to continue the exact same points im getting alarm bells that this is non-genuine behaviour. see.. I think a town tunneled rayn would be more than happy i was riding the same direction.. whereas this scum!rayn is trying his best to accentuate his townish traits. Further, the item about damdred is stupid because as i pointed out prior, he answered the question for damdred, so the whole exchange is useless. The ritoky thing is acceptable to discuss, but not worthy of a scum read. Very good Mocsta. This sounds like a decent scumread, i am happy you pursued this D1 as all this information was in the thread at the time.
rayn.. for you
+ Show Spoiler [checkmate] +On February 07 2018 19:55 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: mderg On February 08 2018 05:04 Skynx wrote:Night 1 ![[image loading]](https://www.vendeeglobe.org/medias/03/42/34247/titre-non-renseigne-r-1680-1200.jpg) Morgan Lagravière abandons after collision with OFNI (objet flottant non-identifié) takes out his starboard rudder.
You call that a fucking avarie?? You know back in the day people made a second fucking mast after getting dismasted and finished? Chat shit get banged little kid stick to small boats please.mderg, the Mafia Framer as Morgan Lagravière was lynched!
This is now Night 1. You have to send night actions. Send them to both hosts please!
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On February 08 2018 20:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 20:08 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 19:51 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.
framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.
gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow. Love it <b>bomb: damdred</b> uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia. you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use. That is actually true. i've done it in multiple games. its only happened unintentionally in a single game (unfortunately, it happened twice in that game). If you really are concerned. i bolded a lot of shit in the scum qt from the newbie, and never in the actual game. its actually scummy for someone to even consider it beyond a joke given how it was delivered. I dont care. Is just funny to remember. This one is my favourite use
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/436086-pyp-league-of-legends-mafia?page=388#7757
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lol
still makes me chuckle
my favourite reaction (twas my team mate too!)
On December 19 2013 11:07 supersoft wrote:
wow. creative attempt. ive never seen this before o_o
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On February 08 2018 20:36 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 19:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 19:41 Mocsta wrote:@tina I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor. You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling. The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal. For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled). Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197 ...Lol. I wouldn't use those words exactly but yes Joni and I fundamentally disagree on what makes people scum. Self-centered reads are kind of his thing. That and things like inconsistencies. What is it about you that you find weird in his post? I honestly do believe that he could scumread me just for being dismissive toward him as town. Well firstly, i take issue with the conversion town read. Lack of basis behind it and completely irrelevant to the main content of the post.. Its nitpicking but that should have been split off as a second post. Its like he wants that specifically in his filter, but to blend in. Then when talking to. hes addressing me in an odd way. Hes buttering me up, suggesting he town reads me and wants to let me down easy by saying, your case is crap! e.g. "you havent played much with tina so it makes sense you make a case like that"... for me this is totally illogical. a good point is a good point regardless of whom. So when he proceeds to continue the exact same points im getting alarm bells that this is non-genuine behaviour. see.. I think a town tunneled rayn would be more than happy i was riding the same direction.. whereas this scum!rayn is trying his best to accentuate his townish traits. Further, the item about damdred is stupid because as i pointed out prior, he answered the question for damdred, so the whole exchange is useless. The ritoky thing is acceptable to discuss, but not worthy of a scum read. To be fair, conversion was being discussed in the thread at the time and Joni had asked him a question. Also, maybe it's a lack of comprehension on my part but I don't recall you and Joni having the same reasons to scumread me? I thought you're was about fluidity while his was about how I treated him. I really don't like his defensiveness at my question when all he had to say was people weren't going with him in df and he had to leave, though. Also pointing to my vote moving off mderg where up until he suicides I'd been actively blocking shennannies talk. If he knew prp mentioned it, I find it strange that he didn't notice I said no to a Rels lynch right after. ermm. IIRC my entire point 1 was about the posts between you and him.
doesnt really matter now game has well and truly moved on.
as an aside, in case i bomb myself cos of a bus driver:
main reason i dont think DF is scum is because as i said before, hes not confident as scum.
last game, he opened calling out his partner
his only other case was on btdt.. whom i suggested in the QT to attack
everything else is defending his position on mocsta/btdt.
this game he wrong about a lot, but has no fear to put himself out there. extremely town.
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On February 08 2018 22:54 Koshi wrote:
I guess we lynch Damdred. Least resistance lynch.
How so? No one liked me throwing a bone there yesterday
I much prefer rayn on d2
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Hmmm. That is fair.
I recall a post between him and mderg
Not a greatfully meaningful post. But didnt come across to me as scum v scum
Seemed genuinely frustrated. Makea me want to not lynch damdred first
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On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote:
Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order
Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel
These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.
Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn
Idk maybe?
prp
scum
DF
Rsoultin
Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.
First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.
It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.
DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.
I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.
Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts
Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game. ##Vote: Damdred
I am only up to p66 and this is enough.
This is a thread summary of arguments everyone else has put up.
You agree with Rayn thoughts who scum reads are me + Rsoultin.. this is ridiculous.
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On February 09 2018 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
In fact if you have a scum read on mocsta during the day and he just afks on mderg at a point when mderg wasn't even getting lynched and he's in a completely different timezone that means he can't be around why wouldn't that spark your interest that maybe he could be bussing? You think there's two mafia wagons on day 1 and have just arbitrarily said all of those people are town despite multiple people on that wagon just hopping on for free credit?
Your town read on me is also separated from the rest and it's really odd. I'm town because I hopped onto mderg when I did? There was no alternative in your universe. I get home from work and mafia partner mderg is up for lynch or mafia partner rsoultin is up for lynch. Why don't I get that sweet credit and save a potential roleblocker from dying? Doesn't even become part of your read at this point. I'm just town and I don't get it. Fantastic set of observations HF.
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On February 09 2018 06:22 Damdred wrote:
@Rayn, Ok here is how it is in my mind.
Mocsta had reasoning to swap off of Mderg and hop back onto Tina. He spent a lot of hia filter preasuring her, moving against her. If mderg and mocsta were zcum together it would be easy at that point in ths thread to move and strengthen the rsoultin lynch if she is towm and he is scum. It makes no sense for him to lynch mderg espe ialy given how he played last game.
If both are mafia, it doesnt clear him at all though. And ill readily admit that, eapecially if rsoultin is a better role in that regard. (i mean his vote)
Besides that I think mocsta reevaluating on me when it was much easier to go with thread sentiment during the night was townie and different from theblast scum game he played. In the same vein when night started he was super antagonksti. towards me and set i was scum, but softened and tried to find things.
I think his vote looks good to me, the way he approa hes the game is different. tonally he is also didderent as he seems much more confrontational in review.
As for df I dont know exactly what the plan was. tina nor mderg really never seemed to have a lot of thread pull necessarily and it seemed no ome really got up to a momentum to go against them in the vote department.
I thought i did explaim about df, he fought woth hf and i thought the fight disnt feel like t v t. hf came out looking better. df has been misconstruing different things to make people look bad, me and my vote for reasons that arent teue, hf in the fight.
One of the things ive tried to read df as, as s um is hes a bit more hostile as scum than town I think. So it sort of fits here to.
And I just think you are town. You are pushing on little things that you think are inconsistant like the rs sk thing. and this conversation we are having now instead of teying to bury me.
I mean I could just be reading the game like im an idiot i guess? But I kinda think im just right. The comments on me are correct, but I dont give credits as calling me town is the easy part for scum.
What pings me is the comment about DF. Town misconstrue things to make people look bad ALL THE TIME. DF is more pointing at a shit on the read; but not telling us why mafia laid that shit.
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On February 09 2018 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:For those eyes only who played in the last game: If conversion is mafia teh scum qt looks liek this: + Show Spoiler +
Conversion: what do i do plz halp, i just wanna quit
Scum #2 (who also played in the last game): ask to get vigged
Conversion: no but what if they vig me?
Scum #2: Nah, we had a framer so there is a cop and Skynx wouldn't put 2 inv roles into the game so there is no vig
Conversion to thread:
VIG ME PLZ I WANNA DIE!!!
:D :D :D
lol.. this quite funny.
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