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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:21 GMT
#883
On February 08 2018 05:17 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:15 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


To be fair, Rayn has been harping on me and df all day.

Iaaaaan wtf man?


That's true. If you're town you have to believe at least one mafia voted on you. Any particulary ideas?


Lol >< gut says you. Especially with the shit you were giving HF.

I guess it could be Conversion though with how he made a show of waffling in thread and then took my post and ran with it. Also felt the need to defer responsibility to me for staying on me. Still think his case on me is more likely to come from town, though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:27 GMT
#890
Lol mderg was one of those >< so probably not the worst heuristic.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:31 GMT
#894
On February 08 2018 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:25 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:22 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:18 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


this is literally misrepresentation. I voted rsoultin with a few se onds to go and the vote was 5-3 with no movement...

thats not close when rsoultim would need three votes.


I thought it was 4v3 and HF voted after you made it 4v4. Hadn't checked tbf. Interesting


nope it was impossible for anyone else besides mderg.

What do you make of that?


You don't look nearly as bad as I thought but I'm still not sure why you decided to vote for rsoultin. Maybe i'm missing something.

Perhaps there was a bus that occurred, but it feels like it would've been so much easier to just kill rsoultin. That's what makes me think rsoultin could just be RB. Either way I think a vigi shot into rsoultin, if possible, would give a lot of info.



If that's what people need to feel comfortable, sure. I'd rather be shot than you waste a lynch on me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:35 GMT
#897
On February 08 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:22 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:18 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


this is literally misrepresentation. I voted rsoultin with a few se onds to go and the vote was 5-3 with no movement...

thats not close when rsoultim would need three votes.


I thought it was 4v3 and HF voted after you made it 4v4. Hadn't checked tbf. Interesting


It was 4vs3 and I voted to prevent any bull shit going on rsoul making it 5vs3. Then rsoul doesn't vote to save herself because mderg was her partner and then damdred made it 5v4.


Blah yeah just shoot me so you guys can get this out of your head. I'll make it easier for anyone doubting and afk the night phase...would rather spend the time with Lexy anyway since it's his day off.

Like there's really no chance as scum that I do that instead of buss for the cred, but you won't believe that until you see me flip.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:41 GMT
#901
On February 08 2018 05:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 05:35 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:22 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:18 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


this is literally misrepresentation. I voted rsoultin with a few se onds to go and the vote was 5-3 with no movement...

thats not close when rsoultim would need three votes.


I thought it was 4v3 and HF voted after you made it 4v4. Hadn't checked tbf. Interesting


It was 4vs3 and I voted to prevent any bull shit going on rsoul making it 5vs3. Then rsoul doesn't vote to save herself because mderg was her partner and then damdred made it 5v4.


Blah yeah just shoot me so you guys can get this out of your head. I'll make it easier for anyone doubting and afk the night phase...would rather spend the time with Lexy anyway since it's his day off.

Like there's really no chance as scum that I do that instead of buss for the cred, but you won't believe that until you see me flip.


I was only slightly kidding :p

Need to read rest of game now and see what's up. Please just ignore me. I'm sorry.


Eh, you're fine. The honest truth is that if I weren't me I would think I was scum right now, so as I said...I really can't blame anyone. Maybe after some sleep this game will make a bit more sense.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 21:11 GMT
#917
On February 08 2018 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.


Can you elaborate why mderg was here but 0 time spent talking about him?


I didn't like his bullshitting post, nor how he agreed with mocsta but couldn't understand him simultaneously. I didn't explicitly spell that out but it's obvious from my filter if you need to verify it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 21:13 GMT
#919
On February 08 2018 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.


So who is mafia when I flip town? Because that will be the world you're living in, probably very soon.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:18 GMT
#957
On February 08 2018 06:41 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:37 darthfoley wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:37 Damdred wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
if somehow rsoultin is town, this game becomes a little spicy


If rs is town it makes rhe game mind boggling why mafia wouldnt save mderg unless the othwr two mafia were on rs. but i dont quite see it


Would point towards Rels slot being mafia +1 on rsoultin or something. Difference between having 2 or 3 mafia in the thread is big I think


Thats possible, but diaformation seems town here...

Tina and you should weigh on this. What do you think of tina saying all that about her teuating ritoky and wanting to have a talk about you but ends up on you trying to cause a shenanigan wagon?

strange but i wamt her to answer (i bet i know what she says though)


Because I thought he was town for not wanting to lynch me, and no one was coming onto prp.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:19 GMT
#959
On February 08 2018 07:15 Damdred wrote:
and seriosily mocsta on a nom game level reply if you feel disrespected about how i said something we can talk about it post game. I really do not understand what i said that was disrespectful but i dont play like that.


Lol, I think he's referring to you saying he should be ashamed for calling you mafia. But then...that's far less disrespectful (read: not at all in any way that I can understand) so maybe I'm wrong.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:23 GMT
#962
On February 08 2018 07:14 Koshi wrote:
rsoultin left the wagon???? After I defended her and made her feel warm and fuzzy? The betrayel is noted.


I still appreciate the warm and fuzzies, even if I probably don't deserve it this game lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:27 GMT
#965
On February 08 2018 07:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:40 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:37 mderg wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here.


That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then?

I think I might want to lynch darthfoley


Meh fuck it. Not lynching you. I really don't think I want to lynch DF either, though.

Why dont you know what you want to do 30 mins before lynch in a game in which you have the largest filter?


I wanted ritoky's take on darth foley. Beyond that it was mostly nullish reads, so yeah -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:29 GMT
#967
On February 08 2018 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.

But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/

rsoultin why was he not mafia?
I understand this is a shit question because he was mafia but I dont understand where this comes from. I never would have thought that you would leave the wagon. Why didnt you trust me? Town rsoultin would I think. We talked and bonded.


Town rsoultin saw her counterwagon who was being lynched voting someone else at EOD. Town rsoultin couldn't fathom how that would come from scum. I do my own thing when I have strong reads (even wrong ones as it turns out), and always have.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:37 GMT
#975
On February 08 2018 07:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:26 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.

But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/

rsoultin why was he not mafia?
I understand this is a shit question because he was mafia but I dont understand where this comes from. I never would have thought that you would leave the wagon. Why didnt you trust me? Town rsoultin would I think. We talked and bonded.


Town rsoultin saw her counterwagon who was being lynched voting someone else at EOD. Town rsoultin couldn't fathom how that would come from scum. I do my own thing when I have strong reads (even wrong ones as it turns out), and always have.

k. Mderg played "poor" but if you are town he made you look so bad. wow... you are almost an autolynch.

That being said. I have not seen a mafia look so incredible fucking horrible while a teammate was getting lynched. The "too scummy to be scum" heuristic is here in full force.


lol >< You're telling me.

I mean, once I flip town (or cop checks me) people need to look into darth foley.

He showed his colors a bit when Holyflare decided to jump on the mderg wagon, and had the narrative out so fast it practically looked prepped. I don't know about the third but it pretty much has to be him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:43 GMT
#980
On February 08 2018 07:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:31 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 07:26 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.

But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/

rsoultin why was he not mafia?
I understand this is a shit question because he was mafia but I dont understand where this comes from. I never would have thought that you would leave the wagon. Why didnt you trust me? Town rsoultin would I think. We talked and bonded.


Town rsoultin saw her counterwagon who was being lynched voting someone else at EOD. Town rsoultin couldn't fathom how that would come from scum. I do my own thing when I have strong reads (even wrong ones as it turns out), and always have.

k. Mderg played "poor" but if you are town he made you look so bad. wow... you are almost an autolynch.

That being said. I have not seen a mafia look so incredible fucking horrible while a teammate was getting lynched. The "too scummy to be scum" heuristic is here in full force.


lol >< You're telling me.

I mean, once I flip town (or cop checks me) people need to look into darth foley.

He showed his colors a bit when Holyflare decided to jump on the mderg wagon, and had the narrative out so fast it practically looked prepped. I don't know about the third but it pretty much has to be him.

No df is playing really good. As either alignment but more likely as town. Dont be silly pls.


Well maybe I'm just bad but it's what makes the most sense to me. Just promise you'll at least consider the idea seriously before dismissing it if I get shot/lynched.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:48 GMT
#982
Tired and headache. Deuces.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 07:51 GMT
#1129
That Conversion reaction looks so fake to me.

You're a robot.

Let me not be a robot raaawwwrrr #@!@#! You guys are such awful #@$!heads for seeing the game the same way I do but having me in your poe.

@truffle what, lol?

@mocsta not really sure what you expect to get with that question but okay. I thought mderg was town and was getting lynched. I was trying to get people to move, and df and HF were too busy with a pretty irrelevant conversation (about who deserves credit for what if I recall). In retrospect it was probably never going to work, at least with df, but that's good since I was wrong lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:01 GMT
#1132
Oh maybe that was someone else's question @.@ I don't know whose?

Joni seemed towny to me for pushing things for reasons like 'she should know not to talk to me this way because she knows I'd scumread her for it', 'no way he believes this he must be scum!' which to me are kind of the typical Joni reasons for thinking someone is scum that I tend to never find convincing. Also his prodding during the tunnel rather than just screaming about it.

But frankly the mderg read was bad even before he flipped scum, and Joni has fooled me before recently. I just didn't think he'd bother with the smoke and mirrors because I'm not the dominant voice in the thread; I'm the only one now that Marv is gone who looks for inclusivity in his play I think. Though it's been awhile so that could have changed I suppose.

Thinking mderg was town had everything to do with him not trying to push me for survival. No more complex than that. Pretty sure I've explained this numerous times by now?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:03 GMT
#1133
On February 08 2018 16:58 Trfel wrote:
And yes, I'm aware that the above "rsoultin is town" vote count analysis only really makes sense if mafia didn't have a huge thread presence at end of day. But that makes sense to me right now anyway.

Not impressed by disformation's posts to this point. He was following the game before the flip, he said as much. Which means that if he is mafia, he was reading the game and trying to analyze it before getting his role PM. Absolutely nothing prevents him from sharing most or all of his (honestly generated) thoughts as mafia here. It'll take a bit of time to be able to read him, I think.

That said, hi disformation, good to play with you again

I don't really think that End of Day makes prplhz town. That means that he was here to have the chance to change his vote and didn't do it. So if you're saying that he's town, then you're saying that he was town and saw a close lynch while he's townreading rsoultin and didn't bother to vote onto a wagon? To me it's more likely that he wasn't here, or that if he was here he didn't know what to do/didn't care enough. Feels very non alignment indicative to me. I'm still slightly leaning town on prplhz for other reasons (here and here, though the second does rely on me being right that rsoultin is town), but he's just done so freaking little.

So I guess the only real suspect for me is darthfoley.
Rsoultin, you really think that Conversion is mafia here?

His shitfit looks forced to me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:10 GMT
#1135
Eh I need to review df yet again. His follow-up seemed opportunistic to me and I don't like his response when he voted mderg, but I could be biased.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:15 GMT
#1137
On February 08 2018 17:06 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 17:03 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 16:58 Trfel wrote:
And yes, I'm aware that the above "rsoultin is town" vote count analysis only really makes sense if mafia didn't have a huge thread presence at end of day. But that makes sense to me right now anyway.

Not impressed by disformation's posts to this point. He was following the game before the flip, he said as much. Which means that if he is mafia, he was reading the game and trying to analyze it before getting his role PM. Absolutely nothing prevents him from sharing most or all of his (honestly generated) thoughts as mafia here. It'll take a bit of time to be able to read him, I think.

That said, hi disformation, good to play with you again

I don't really think that End of Day makes prplhz town. That means that he was here to have the chance to change his vote and didn't do it. So if you're saying that he's town, then you're saying that he was town and saw a close lynch while he's townreading rsoultin and didn't bother to vote onto a wagon? To me it's more likely that he wasn't here, or that if he was here he didn't know what to do/didn't care enough. Feels very non alignment indicative to me. I'm still slightly leaning town on prplhz for other reasons (here and here, though the second does rely on me being right that rsoultin is town), but he's just done so freaking little.

So I guess the only real suspect for me is darthfoley.
Rsoultin, you really think that Conversion is mafia here?

His shitfit looks forced to me.
I gathered as much from your above post. I'll take it that's a yes though.

We've been having scarily similar reads all game, except now you're scumreading one of my strongest townreads... Like is it just the explosion? Or is there more to it?


That and his weird waffling. He came into the thread all idk idk what do I do but when he actually lays out his reads it was like:

I have 1 reason to read mderg scum but this looks like his town game...

And I have no reasons to read rsoul town except she posted

It was just like well are are you confused about then? Seems like he needed an excuse to vote off the mderg wagon.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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