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On January 12 2018 23:08 kitaman27 wrote: I hereby nominate TheTwatyEvildoer for Best Newcomer, Most Impressive Newbie Performance, and Drama Queen. Suck it btdt. Two more signups and we can start :D But can you links games | ||
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On January 18 2018 18:39 mderg wrote: I'm disappointed in hf because the hf I know would be at 10 pages of filter right now. Mocsta looks like a crazy person, doesn't tell me anything about his alignment. Maybe someone has some meta knowledge. Everything else is a big ball of nothingness to me. Its a normal start for HF, youre giving him too much credit. No reason to be disappointed. The whole thing feels weird. Tina is having a good start, I like her. I also like hfs cream joke since it feels genuine, but that's pretty nai. Im eager to call out afkers and place some votes upon them to get them playing. | ||
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On January 18 2018 20:55 Mocsta wrote: I agree that DF and prplhz need to be fleshed out more. I think DF entrance is the most forced thing I have read so far. As for prplz: I get it is the weekend, but to be so blatant about AFK is just..meh. I think an acceptable backup option at this point - unless DF equally AFKs. The other stuff means nothing to me given timezones and early day1. This is true. Sucks to talk to yourself  There may be tendencies I have that ppl like HF have vague familiarity with. But i wouldnt call it meta per se. I joined this game for a specific purpose, and that falls outside any notion of "mocsta" meta. Why does odd default "scummy weird"? Im more a thinker than a feeler - can you detail this out more as im struggling to understand the association? Entry to the thread in an odd/weird way feels constructed/forced, thus my scum association. | ||
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connerie, mes amis | ||
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maaaybe later in the day | ||
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so anything I'm supposed to answer? I'm not catching up rn, im tired. | ||
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On January 22 2018 05:03 rsoultin wrote: That's not exactly a new conclusion. I'm more interested in the rest of your thoughts. I don't have any. Maybe I'll have some? | ||
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I'm no veteran | ||
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On January 24 2018 15:00 Kmatt wrote: As much as I dislike HF's post for reasons Mocsta stated above, a Godfather is certainly on the table. I'd be happy lynching the Twat Slot/JAT today. BTDT is sketchy too, but I'm still unsure how to interpret his roleblock claim. I know if I was playing as Godfather I could use that excuse if I knew the people who had been roleblocked are dead and I can claim it uncontested. If there's no RB in a (semi-)closed setup then I'd be even bolder to take that potential credit. I'll wait to hear more on him. That's quite the cool play and I like that theory. A scum roleblocker is confirmed, so is a goon. Makes GF perfectly possible. However next step is pretty clear. Holyflare is still alive, and it's D3, so we should absolutely kill Holyflare. | ||
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I wasn't there over the last days. | ||
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No counterclaim yet you guys are lynching him? Well who am I to stand in your way. On January 24 2018 18:54 Rels wrote: why are you posting if you can't be bothered to read the 3 pages since the flip ? Don't be harsh. Be nice, be constructive, treat me well . | ||
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On January 24 2018 19:02 Mocsta wrote: It doesnt matter anymor but.. this is bullshit.. you voted on day2.. I would've been modkilled otherwise. | ||
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On January 24 2018 19:04 justanothertownie wrote: Just read the few posts that have been made in this dayphase before asking further questions please. Thanks for your cooperation. I did yet I don't understand why people don't believe the claim he made. However I haven't read the previous 40 pages so who am I to judge. | ||
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- having a Cop is unlikely with a vig in (see above) - his checks are meh - roleblocker is confirmed, so if we leave him alive for another check, scum will just roleblock and not kill him. - no counter claim, so if it is a fakeclaim, the real blue stays alive and un-outed Actually, I think lynching Damerion is a good idea. | ||
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On January 24 2018 19:12 justanothertownie wrote: Yup. Add to that how he is basically claiming to save himself since he was #1 lynch priority beforehand. One thing to note: if it's a fake claim, why doesn't he fake a red check? That way he'd make town throw away one mislynch. | ||
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I mean we're still lynching into uncced blue. | ||
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On January 24 2018 23:36 justanothertownie wrote: So? If he was real he would be rbed until all eternity now. He is literally useless now if he is the cop. Which he isn't. There is no way this setup has both a cop and a vig. You're just repeating what I said already  . I'm a bit torn on that matter. | ||
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On January 24 2018 23:03 beentheredonethat wrote: So Tina cased Damerion. Tina dies. Damerion claims cop. This is seriously fishy. The Tina kill makes Damerion the next lynch, almost auto. Even him claiming couldn't avert this. Which makes Tina the obvious easy kill choice for scum. But this stays fishy, plus the claim not being a red-check claim. | ||
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I think HF is scum. | ||
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On January 25 2018 04:34 Kmatt wrote: Personally an uncontested cop claim warrants reconsideration, but I seem to be alone in that regard. You do know you're not alone eh | ||
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On January 25 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote: No, they are really quite the opposite. Pull your head out of your arse and actually read the content he is writing that has to do with roles that nobody has talked about and shows he's thinking in a mafia way that nobody would think about (yes, Mocsta just posted about this later but that's far far later than this immediate response): Look at the certainty by "Yes, a Godfather is on the table" and the way he thinks about claiming rbs from people that are dead. Then also look at how he goes about throwing suspicion. 90% of his post is dedicated to wifom about roles and what mafia would do and literally one sentence is dedicated to the person who he actually scum reads but it has NO information whatsoever about that slot! The person he wants to lynch the most is because of this reason + the continued afking. Nothing more. He wants to lynch a slot that he townread. THEN don't even get me started on how many times he's defended damerion trying to get us to wagon someone else AND also draw out a blue today. Let's just look at that last sentence too: MAYBE HF. But nothing has changed with me today so why is my name there? It's literally because people are throwing my name around and making me a viable lynch. This is what he's had to say about me the entire game: ^ TODAY Mocsta is null, lot of words no content. BTDT is suspicious and he questions the RB. JAT has replaced twat who he is randomly suspicious of but that name doesn't appear. My name does. Why? There is no congruence throughout his filter. He appears at random points in the thread to drop a comment here and there with irrelevance and the most active he's been in this game is to defend damerion. He also hipster defended damdred for 0 reasons whatsoever too. Plz lynch after today. Great post. | ||
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On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote: not a good idea Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy. Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy Okay, so "Do not auto lynch the scumread of Holyflare even if HF is town because he might be wrong" makes sense. But Kmatt is exactly the person HF wants to lynch. | ||
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If they know that a veteran is in, they'd stack roleblocks with KP. The fact that I got roleblocked twice pretty much means that someone in the scum team thought I'm playing so super low volume because I'm a blue. Now that's a nice thing to know but it doesn't help in the slightest. I do realize that I'm going to be dead soon tho because, well, I'm confirmed town. | ||
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On January 27 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote: I would without a doubt direct the team to rb whoever we kill and then get my team to claim rb when they need to. If I didn't read the op. If I read the op I would rb who we kill and then get my team to claim rb. Yeah that's exactly what I thought You'd never wtf the roleblocker twice in a row on afk and mod warned btdt. | ||
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On January 25 2018 04:34 Kmatt wrote: Personally an uncontested cop claim warrants reconsideration, but I seem to be alone in that regard. On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote: I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches. On January 25 2018 03:45 Kmatt wrote: lmao no. If I see a counterclaim of any other blue I would hang him on the spot. The fact that no townie is taking an easy 1-for-1 tells me that he wasn't bullshitting. uh oh | ||
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On January 24 2018 15:06 Kmatt wrote: Beyond that I'm willing to accept Damerion's claim(s), which puts the remaining potential townies at Mocsta/Rels/HF/Mderg. Rels is on the nice list, as is Mderg. HF is still HF, but he's certainly not my vote today. Mocsta is more null to me. A lot of text but nothing stands out to say "This guy is town". Cop checks are a bit more reliable than my gut, so until we get into a 4-way cop claim-off I'll let him slide. Wait. I am not on that list because he accepts Damerion's claim and lists me as town. On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote: I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches. And no 24 hours later, he says "I don't like lynching [the Cop with the greencheck on BTDT] I'd prefer BTDT". It's not possible to want to lynch me if he truely believes Damerion is the cop. | ||
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On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote: That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather. There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb. | ||
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whoa u think so? I think it's actually a decent thought. Makes sense to me. What's your preference? | ||
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On January 27 2018 01:34 justanothertownie wrote: Sure, but if Kmatt is town he thought there was a cop and then a godfather is almost guaranteed. Why is a godfather guaranteed because a town player that does not know the setup thinks a cop is in? | ||
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On January 27 2018 01:35 justanothertownie wrote: I am not talking about the setup. Only about your explanation of his thought process. I guess you're entitled to your opinion | ||
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On January 27 2018 01:36 justanothertownie wrote: Dude, come on. We are talking about Kmatts thought process if he is town. He believes Damerion is real. That means there is a cop in the game (in his world). That also means there is very likely a godfather to counter the cop. That means it is not scummy for him to not trust the green checks. fin I am all the time talking about Kmatt being scum and hesistant to lynch his buddy. | ||
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On January 27 2018 02:03 Rels wrote: This is the part I don't understand. Why do you say Kmatt is listing you as town ? Or are you talking about Damerion listing you as town ? I understand me missing in the list of "potential towns" as Kmatt reading me as "confirmed town" which he can only know if he is scum OR if he believes the claim. | ||
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"I accept Damerion's claim. Which is a green check on BTDT. The remaining potential (i.e. un-confirmed) townies are Mocsta/Rels/HF/Mderg" | ||
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On January 27 2018 03:44 justanothertownie wrote: Classic btdt. let's see after this game who was right about Kmatt and who wasn't | ||
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On January 27 2018 03:44 justanothertownie wrote: Classic btdt. Loving the toxicity here | ||
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On January 27 2018 03:20 Rels wrote: And don't put the responsability on me for something you decided to do. Thanks. You're getting angry because you were wrong. I understand the feeling, just get back in a few hours and everything will be OK. A reaction proving me wrong is perfectly fine. BUT A REACTION!!!!!! PROVING MEEEEEEE ??????? WRONGGFGGGG GISSSSSS NOOOOTTTT!!! let's see if you'll notice the subtle difference | ||
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On January 27 2018 03:53 justanothertownie wrote: Will you stop acting like a toddler next time if I am right though? *yawn* you might want to go back to playing the game but if you insist on toxic baiting, well who am I to stop you | ||
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On January 27 2018 09:06 Holyflare wrote: No btdt is blue and I didn't kill him. The doc healed the scum target. im not blue. | ||
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On January 27 2018 09:08 Holyflare wrote: Btdt is the doctor you fuck wit sigh no | ||
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On January 27 2018 09:06 Holyflare wrote: No btdt is blue and I didn't kill him. But yeah that makes you scum. | ||
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i took that "i didn't kill him" as actual conceding but apparently I got that wrong | ||
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On January 27 2018 09:11 Holyflare wrote: I saw you claim blue. If I was mafia I would without a doubt kill you because you're confirmed town AND blue and the rber is dead. That makes perfect sense, as do your words on Kmatt. | ||
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If it's a veteran, only one confirmed person. The claim should happen tho. | ||
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I'm confirmed town, Rels looks pretty towny, so that's hf, mderg, kmatt, mocsta, jat. One of these guys will be confirmed town soon. So we have four players left. If the doc claims, we even have 3 players left. that's pretty decent I'd say. | ||
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Can you do a selfie once this game is over just so I can see how you look when you realize you're wrong? | ||
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On January 27 2018 09:24 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, you do you. But I am not convinced. I was so sure that this would be the case because I hosted several games and when I was discussing setups, I was told by various people that it's normal to have one investigative and one protective role in a 13p setup. And if you follow my filter closely, I wasn't 100% sure initially. | ||
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In case of vet, claim now. Same goes for doc. | ||
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On January 27 2018 23:24 Holyflare wrote: Which is irrelevant until we know what happened or you're finally ready to admit you're the doctor and I'm town It was my birthday on monday, my gf nirthday on tuesday. Thus I did not play. There are no intentional crumbs in my posts and I have no idea why I got roleblocked twice. | ||
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On January 27 2018 23:31 justanothertownie wrote: Claiming is only helpful if it confirms a question mark. Doc shouldn't claim unless it is HF or kmatt basically. Who are your question marks? | ||
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On January 28 2018 01:34 Holyflare wrote: If you ARE town then you have to do something amazing and some hardcore digging on why someone else is mafia because I'm going to flip town and you will without a doubt be next. So that should be weighing on your mind big time. Yeah and that bothers me a lot. I have no reason to believe mocsta, jat or mderg are town. | ||
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On January 18 2018 22:38 Damerion wrote: I think Damdred is overselling his ability to bus, he has stated multiple times in the past he wants to move away from bussing. And the onky reason he bussed in his last scum game was because it was an accident and his team accidently voted with him. Hes a smart player though. As for my read on Darthfoley, I think he is null one post does a case not make unless he claimed scum. I do not like Mocsta posts, however I do not think his ramblings are alignment indicative. So pressure him fine but I do not see it, strange yes but nothing beyond that. When Damerion claimed Cop, he said he'd have checked Mocsta N1. I can't really express why but this makes me feel Mocsta is town. | ||
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On January 28 2018 06:09 justanothertownie wrote: Replace question marks with "people in danger of being lynched". Everyone is a question mark to some degree. Okay, so who are in danger of being lynched and who is ranked highest on this list, for you? | ||
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On January 28 2018 06:12 Holyflare wrote: Classic dude | ||
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On January 28 2018 06:19 justanothertownie wrote: Well, it's not like I haven't said that multiple times already or anything. You could also have a look at my vote. Even though that could change if HF keeps playing and other people keep afking. Okay | ||
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On January 28 2018 06:43 justanothertownie wrote: That's quite rich coming from you. But if you want to act like a little bitch go ahead. I have not been toxic in this game. Ive been toxic before but what youre doing all this game is being hostile and ad hom towards me. I asked you to stop it, you refused. So youre either scum trying to tilt me or an asshole. Id prefer the first thing since this is a game where we (and the newbies!) Are supposed to have fun. If you as a veteran choose to act how you do without a reason, it gives a shitty impression of tje tl.net playerbase. So i really hope for you youre scum. | ||
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I've asked you for your reads for a specific reason. You're willing to go after Rels in case HF flips town and your reasoning to lynch HF at this point seems to be "as long as you're not confirmed town, scum!Rels can hide behind his tunneling on you". And I am not able to derive your current scumreads outside of HF. | ||
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On January 28 2018 07:15 justanothertownie wrote: It is always the same with you. First you post some asinine logic. Then people call you out on it and you go full emo. It is incredibly annoying and I won't empower it. If that makes me an asshole then so be it. If you want to be a baddy and vote me - do it. I am probably dead before I need your vote for lynching someone. "It is always the same with you" - we have had like 1 or 2 games together, and this only escalated here as much as it did due to your behaviour. I can live with the first "classic btdt" you called but you continued. Seriously I at least have realized I need to change something while you're just beating a dead horse over and over again. Even now you're not stopping. | ||
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On January 28 2018 09:45 Holyflare wrote: Notice how I've not once tried to shift the lynch elsewhere, not once tried to paint anyone in an ultimately scummy light to direct the lynch to them. The only thing I'm doing is asking questions and trying to point things out. If that's a scummy objective to leave a legacy then so be it. Just realise that you're shitting up the wrong tree. That's not an actual argument though. There's only one scummer left so scum's first goal right there is survival, not active mislynches. As town, you're not supposed to "paint someone scummy". You're supposed to genuinely read a person and try to find out the alignment. You say "I'm pro-town because I am not painting someone else as scummy just to survive". Yeah, okay, granted, but you're also not giving out genuine reads then. If you'll be confirmed by death, why not try to actually convince people into lynching your strongest scumread after you're dead? | ||
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On January 19 2018 07:17 rsoultin wrote: God I spoke too soon. ♡! I just want to townread you forever for the awful reason of being in my headspace, even on things I haven't commented on. Or not so awful reason. Do I finally get a game with an active town ksc again? You also were on the Damdred wagon D1 with Damerion early on, which makes it perfectly possible that you guys decided to roleblock me. You could've hammered me. Hm, I think that's actually a super weak argument. D3: prplhz (4): Mocsta, beentheredonethat, Kmatt, Holyflare Damerion (3): Rels, rsoultin, mderg So you're voting prplhz instead of Damerion claiming prphlz is the "scum vig" and it's 100% sure and so on On January 23 2018 06:47 Holyflare wrote: I'll lynch Damerion tomorrow after we get rid of the mafia vig today ok? On January 23 2018 06:29 Holyflare wrote: His complete lack of seeming availability? I'm not saying he's not mafia I'm just saying prplhz is definitely mafia whereas Damerion has a sliver of hope. So I'd rather get the definitive mafia out of the way. Aaaand Tina lol On January 23 2018 19:02 rsoultin wrote: Lol >< the only thing I have going for you is a weak tonal read based on...nothing much more than gut. Assuming I'm right on Damerion, I don't even know where to begin on a third scum. The game is so dead. My head says you. I really need town to start posting and solving :/ I think we have one more free mislynch before being wrong becomes a scum win? | ||
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And out of these four, I think HF is the most capable scum player so I want him to be dead first. | ||
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On January 23 2018 20:44 rsoultin wrote: The facts don't make holyflare look town @.@ But then this happens And Tina dies And HF jumps on Damerion But scum!HF would never ever roleblock afk!btdt twice in a fucking row | ||
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Kmatt was also hesistant to lynch Damerion. He expressed it but let the lynch pass. That's what indecisive scum would do. On January 26 2018 09:13 Kmatt wrote: Could you link me the game where town ignores cop's check? That takes a special kind of stupid. I'm not above voting him though, he's been on my list anyway. In fact I don't think he's ever not someone I want to lynch. Let me rephrase that: "It takes a special kind of stupid to ignore a cop check". Which is harsh. But he's totes down to lynching the guy because "he's on the list anyways"? What is this post even? | ||
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On January 28 2018 10:26 Mocsta wrote: But survival is through active mislynches, no? the issue i have with looking too far beyond that is it fosters a sense of distrust where it may not be necessarily; and in some ways is even detrimental. Our goal is still the same though, end this ASAP. This cycle appears unlikely, so next. Now, I do think HF is being the most sincere he has been all game. The tone of everything is quite different at his "deathbed" for lack of a better word. Its a case of, once I flip, read through knowing you can trust this rational point of view that. Therefore, the main thing i want to know at this point is who town!holyflare thinks should be primarily finger of suspicion tomorrow. I guess it's semantics, but not necessarily active mislynches. You can also kinda sit back and let the game happen, watch town eat itself, which is happening just now in case HF is town . | ||
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On January 28 2018 18:57 justanothertownie wrote: @btdt I never said I do not like you as a person. I just hate the things I mentioned about your play. But fine, in the interest of keeping this newbie game civil I will refrain from provocing you any further. If you really want to better yourself you should stop spitevoting me in return. Unless you actually think I am the scummiest player in the game which would be a ridiculously bad read. Okay, let's drop it. ##unvote ##vote Holyflare | ||
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On January 30 2018 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: Pretty sure mafia can't even hold their shot. So it would probably have been randomized. So it was randomized on someone who then got healed or is the vet? | ||
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On January 30 2018 04:56 justanothertownie wrote: Sure. But then your point is defeated since you cannot say if they sent in a shot or not. The OP has it pretty clearly: mafia cannot hold their shot. So we got vet OR doc and I expect them to claim at like :59 so if they die, they confirm shit. | ||
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Q: What happens if mafia does not submit a shot? A: It would be randomly chosen among the remaining non-mafia players. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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. Well played. GG everyone, thanks for the fun! | ||
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