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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 10 2017 16:56 GMT
#48
If you're still open I'll /in
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 11 2017 20:37 GMT
#65
On the first day of Christmas, Damdred gave to me: surprise murder mystery!
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 11 2017 21:07 GMT
#67
On December 12 2017 06:00 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 05:37 Kmatt wrote:
On the first day of Christmas, Damdred gave to me: surprise murder mystery!

Noone´s dead yet, planning to survive the first night?


As if. I must have spent a good 90 seconds getting the syllables to line up. No way am I doing the entire song.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 04:12 GMT
#123
On December 12 2017 13:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 11:41 Arya321 wrote:
Was flood controlled earlier dunno why but was very sad to be flood controlled when I was trying to make my post but anyways I should clarify that we shouldn't do setup talk within the first few hours of the game mainly because it might accidentally get someone to claim blue and plus it can be seen as blue hunting per say too hence why I don't think it's a good thing to do super early Day 1. Anyways surprised Palmar didn't enter the game yet yet people are trying to lynch him. Why lynch an afk person when they wont reveal much information at all?

you wanna accidentally claim blue?


I think it refers more to someone saying something like there being a Doc or Vet in the game when that was never mentioned in the OP, outing themselves as a blue. Of course you can WIFOM it into being a VT trying to draw Mafia's fire, but in the end it's a dumb conversation to have in the first place.

In spite of that, is the "as many as possible" thing in the D1 post flavor or is it possible to lynch more than one person per cycle?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 16:06 GMT
#175
While I'm not against lynching an AFK, Koshi did work the game I played with him, so I'd rather he live for now. And Palmar wagon is too mainstream for me.

Chezinu's posts offend my sensibilities, however
##Vote Chezinu

Just enough posts at the start to not be under the AFK lens, but staying completely out of the thread since then.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 16:12 GMT
#180
On December 13 2017 01:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also all these people calling me mafia get off me.


You were my second choice. Oddly quick on townreading me, then taking several posts to make a not-really-serious vote. Feels like you're trying to tick off as many "look how town I am" boxes.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 16:19 GMT
#185
On December 13 2017 01:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I love the logic of "This guy looks townie, must be mafia!!!!!!!!"


Moreso that I think you're trying to appear townie.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 16:27 GMT
#196
On December 13 2017 01:24 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 01:06 Kmatt wrote:
While I'm not against lynching an AFK, Koshi did work the game I played with him, so I'd rather he live for now. And Palmar wagon is too mainstream for me.

Chezinu's posts offend my sensibilities, however
##Vote Chezinu

Just enough posts at the start to not be under the AFK lens, but staying completely out of the thread since then.

we're not killing chezinu day 1. Just get off this wagon because arguing for it will never work and is actually just kinda scummy.


No one ever really goes for my day 1 vote, but he has an invitation to come change my mind. If not he could have a legit case for getting the axe. If I were to change my vote it would be to VE, but I'll abstain until we get closer to nighttime.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 16:31 GMT
#204
On December 13 2017 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
dfw my own townread's scumread


Top 10 anime betrayals
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 16:44 GMT
#207
On December 13 2017 01:38 Arya321 wrote:
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On December 13 2017 01:30 Conversion wrote:
On December 13 2017 01:29 Arya321 wrote:
On December 13 2017 01:24 Conversion wrote:
On December 13 2017 01:22 Arya321 wrote:
On December 13 2017 00:30 Conversion wrote:
why is it weird that I was trying to tell VE that his point on saying Oats is scum was basically NAI at best?

I mean his opinon changing in that short amount of time was a bit weird. Anyways thoughts on prplhz?


prplhz seems alright. not in my lynch pool for today

that's about it

Fair enough. Anything you want to talk about?


you

who do you want to lynch

what do you think about policy lynching Koshi if he doesn't play

any other thoughts on the game?

I honestly don't know Palmar hasn't done much and HF just haven't done shit at all but it will be a coin flip on those 2 at best.
Does Koshi as town not play at all?
I thinking Grack and prplhz are town atm so that's a start.


If HF was right about his work situation then he may just not post at all until it's vote time. Which for me would be preferable to his normal posting.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 17:39 GMT
#214
I don't know anything about Chezinu other than that I didn't like his posts. Voting Palmar would be meaningless, and I prefer to push on people who are "under the radar", so to speak.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 20:32 GMT
#253
On December 12 2017 22:45 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 22:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man this wagon is big. I feel like it's this bitcoin bubble that's about to burst, Palmar isn't gonna get lynched at all is he?!

Hi VE, what are your scumreads?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 12 2017 20:41 GMT
#254
DF how do you feel about prplhz?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 01:57 GMT
#394
On December 13 2017 10:44 Chezinu wrote:
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On December 13 2017 10:41 Arya321 wrote:
Last post: Kmatt did say he never played with you and is pushing right now. What you think of that Chezinu?

I'm nervous to see if the rule still stands after all these years. Every time the Chezinu Rule comes up I get nervous wondering if the streak will continue.


If it's as legit as you're claiming it would be a shame to break that streak. Nonetheless you were still my least favorite poster as of this morning and so far have yet to change my mind. Back when I started playing it sounded like lynching AFKs was what the cool kids did but apparently I'm out of style now. Also nice OMGUS.

Now y'all are gonna make me put effort in. Ugh.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 02:11 GMT
#397
Oh, looks like I missed Conversion's question earlier

On December 13 2017 10:00 Conversion wrote:
Kmatt:

scum for not writing the entire 12 days of christmas song fitted to mafia theme

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 01:06 Kmatt wrote:
While I'm not against lynching an AFK, Koshi did work the game I played with him, so I'd rather he live for now. And Palmar wagon is too mainstream for me.

Chezinu's posts offend my sensibilities, however
##Vote Chezinu

Just enough posts at the start to not be under the AFK lens, but staying completely out of the thread since then.


this is weak pressure. instead of commenting on people who are being active and generating content, parks lazy afk vote on Chezinu. after that, asks two questions and ignores the entire thread on me being scum and such. might just be a playstyle thing? I don't comment = you're town? who knows


I've been following this thread on and off but was more curious to see where Koshi (and hopefully Forumite if he ever comes back) were gonna take it. Also there wasn't much content at the time aside from the half-serious Palmar wagon, so I prefer to seek out a case on my own. I guess that counts as playstyle.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 02:11 GMT
#398
"it" in that last post being the push on Conversion. Me and my pronouns.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 02:25 GMT
#401
On December 13 2017 11:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 11:11 Kmatt wrote:
Oh, looks like I missed Conversion's question earlier

On December 13 2017 10:00 Conversion wrote:
Kmatt:

scum for not writing the entire 12 days of christmas song fitted to mafia theme

On December 13 2017 01:06 Kmatt wrote:
While I'm not against lynching an AFK, Koshi did work the game I played with him, so I'd rather he live for now. And Palmar wagon is too mainstream for me.

Chezinu's posts offend my sensibilities, however
##Vote Chezinu

Just enough posts at the start to not be under the AFK lens, but staying completely out of the thread since then.


this is weak pressure. instead of commenting on people who are being active and generating content, parks lazy afk vote on Chezinu. after that, asks two questions and ignores the entire thread on me being scum and such. might just be a playstyle thing? I don't comment = you're town? who knows


I've been following this thread on and off but was more curious to see where Koshi (and hopefully Forumite if he ever comes back) were gonna take it. Also there wasn't much content at the time aside from the half-serious Palmar wagon, so I prefer to seek out a case on my own. I guess that counts as playstyle.

So whats your conclusion on it currently?


My intense need to not sheep makes me not want to blindly convert to the Conversion wagon, but other than voting AFKs or VS, I'm a bit stuck. Forumite is the missing link from where I'm sitting. If he speaks up sometime before we tally votes it would likely clear up a lot of my "ambiguously town" reads. A lot of people here are lumping him in with other reads, while other AFKs like HolyFlare, Eversince, and prphlz slip on by.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 16:04 GMT
#579
On December 14 2017 01:03 prplhz wrote:
Everybody is talking about Oats but nobody is doing anything.... What gives?


Just caught up and was wondering that myself. Need to make a status update.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 16:42 GMT
#627
On December 14 2017 01:41 Koshi wrote:
I would like to point out Oats was on my list 24h ago. tyty


Eh he was low-hanging fruit then and he's low-hanging fruit now
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 16:49 GMT
#635
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 17:03 GMT
#644
On December 14 2017 01:53 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote:
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me.

Did you just pick two random names and decide that one and only one is scum?


As I reread today I was scumreading both but it seems like a weird time for them to "pretend" to be at odds. That doesn't feel to me like two townies going at it. I'm going with my gut on this. Forumite may not be my favorite poster in the thread, but he's at least asking questions. Palmar durdled around without making any real reads (he made a few townreads earlier but made sure to tack on how "super weak" they were), then dumps his wall. Just seems very inorganic. Goes from zero to 99 to 100 on a guy.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 17:18 GMT
#650
On December 14 2017 02:13 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2017 02:03 Kmatt wrote:
On December 14 2017 01:53 prplhz wrote:
On December 14 2017 01:49 Kmatt wrote:
I was thinking between Palmar and Forumite one of them is scum. I think I can get behind Palmar at this point, Forumite being town makes a lot more sense to me.

Did you just pick two random names and decide that one and only one is scum?

Forumite may not be my favorite poster in the thread, but he's at least asking questions.

well now I know how to beat you as mafia.


The "at least" part was in comparison to you.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 17:30 GMT
#655
On December 14 2017 02:22 Arya321 wrote:
Also Kmatt can you please read Oat's filter for me and tell me what you think of him please?


None of his posts are individually bad, but there's nothing of value/interest in there either. He doesn't seem to have any reads or stances other than that Koshi and VE were playing "forced townie", not unlike what I said earlier. Other than that he's about as impactful on this game as any of the pseudo-afks (Grack, Oats, Ever). I'm still pretty new, so I don't know if that counts as scum play, but it definitely isn't town play. If he's our lynch today I wouldn't shed a tear.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 17:35 GMT
#657
On December 14 2017 02:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Oats' filter is pretty terrible. There's very little scumhunting direction and just a lot of sniping at other people's reads and calling other people bad.


That's what was keeping me from townreading him from the start, those "bad read" posts. Is it bad because it was reasoned poorly, bad because you see it as coming from scum, bad because it conflicts with your own well-reasoned read? The world may never know.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 19:40 GMT
#700
On December 14 2017 04:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 06:39 Grackaroni wrote:
This is going to sound pretty stupid but I could see teammates wanting to jump on scum Palmar as a distancing maneuver at the start of the day when there's little chance that votes would stay on him for the rest of the day.

This is such a dumb post by grack.

Literally means nothing and literally makes no conclusions


I don't think that was a conclusion, just a fairly obvious observation that, should Palmar flip scum, there's a good chance we'll find a partner on that early vote wagon.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 19:50 GMT
#703
I'm still waiting on a Pheonix Wright-esque dramatic turnaround from Oats.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 20:29 GMT
#748
On December 14 2017 05:26 Arya321 wrote:
Also when did Kmatt vote Oats? I know he said he wouldn't mind him dying but that was earlier.


Just recently, since I had to vote something or get modkilled
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 20:34 GMT
#761
GOT EM all me boys
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 20:38 GMT
#767
So Oats initially voted for Palmar, then jumped to Conversion at the end when it was apparent he was getting lynched. How many layers deep of WIFOM are we gonna go?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 22:40 GMT
#863
Kind of silly to claim that now. You're just asking to get shot before you can reveal anything.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 22:57 GMT
#866
On December 14 2017 07:11 Palmar wrote:
I claim cop.

100% hardclaim.


Real talk tho: why? The only winning scenario here is for Mafia to let you live, you scan and find another scum, and live to reveal+lynch that target.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 23:10 GMT
#870
That...actually kind of works unless mafia choose to shoot neither of you. Then we have to do a 50/50 lynch.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 23:21 GMT
#875
On December 14 2017 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2017 08:10 Kmatt wrote:
That...actually kind of works unless mafia choose to shoot neither of you. Then we have to do a 50/50 lynch.



???


If someone other than you or Palmar get shot, then we still have to lynch the liar.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 23:22 GMT
#877
I claim VT, because that's apparently the cool thing to do now.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 23:29 GMT
#879
It's time to stop, okay?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 13 2017 23:59 GMT
#884
On December 14 2017 08:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
So tomorrow the lynch is between Koshi/Palmar/Holyflare. All doctors are on me and the cops are going to be left open for the mafia to kill because we have something better than the cop.

We have me.


I don't think we lynch Koshi either way unless there's yet another CC. As it stands either Koshi or the actual cop between HF/Palmar is getting shot. If/when the cop dies we lynch the other.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 04:45 GMT
#906
This game devolved into nonsense pretty quickly. At least I don't have to think too hard about tomorrow's votes.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 16:28 GMT
#989
I'm still keeping up but probably can't post much for the next 8hrs or so.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:23 GMT
#1017
Hot dog! I figured Grack would be a default lynch by virtue of being so afk, but what a hit! At this point I think the safest course of action is to lynch Palmar. If he's red we win, and if he's really a cop then Forumite is on the chopping block. Only other option would be if he was a VT claiming for who knows what reason (I've seen this unfortunately). Or is it possible to have four scum players?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:26 GMT
#1018
Also I'm betting Eversince was the Vig.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:30 GMT
#1021
I thought Palmar was claiming to be a regular cop? He did mention a framer role, so It's possible you were "painted" red.

We could always lynch HF or you first. Unless we have a VT deliberately screwing the game I think there has to be a red between HF/Palmar/Forumite.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:31 GMT
#1023
Vig get in here
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:40 GMT
#1026
Could elaborate on why you were "confused" earlier?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:47 GMT
#1031
On December 15 2017 06:44 Conversion wrote:
wait so parity cop checks TWO people in one night? not one person one night, one person next night?


That's what it sounds like. You pick two people, then you find out if they're same alignment or different. Supposedly between HolyFlare and Forumite one of them is a mafia. But I'm pretty sure Palmar claimed to be a regular Cop, and HolyFlare the parity.

Basically, someone here is lying and can we just lynch the whole lot of them?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:49 GMT
#1034
On December 15 2017 06:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 06:31 Conversion wrote:
HF you still stuck to the idea that I am scum?


I haven't called you mafia since the start of n1? I also based my scum reads on people calling you town.


You. What is your power, and what were the results?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:55 GMT
#1035
Alright well I have a test to go take, so let's get this inquisition started.

##vote HolyFlare
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 21:59 GMT
#1039
On December 15 2017 06:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 06:49 Kmatt wrote:
On December 15 2017 06:46 Holyflare wrote:
On December 15 2017 06:31 Conversion wrote:
HF you still stuck to the idea that I am scum?


I haven't called you mafia since the start of n1? I also based my scum reads on people calling you town.


You. What is your power, and what were the results?

basically I check 3 people in one night, I know I get one false result (as in I know it's wrong), one true result (I know it's right) and one random result (as in it could be either right or wrong).

It's alignment only.


Oh wait what? So you scanned HF and Forumite, who was the third? And you're saying those two both came back red?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 22:05 GMT
#1042
So we can't make any concrete rulings from a single night's scan. It's even possible that all three are green. This is gonna boil down to whether or not HF can produce anything to back up his own cop claim.

Still think we should lynch the three of you. If it turns out to be a triple green flip and Arya was the scum or something I'll eat my shoe.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 14 2017 22:25 GMT
#1049
Seems like a waste to give that to you. Unless the recipient is random.

This "Simple" game is becoming anything but.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 00:03 GMT
#1072
On December 15 2017 08:55 Holyflare wrote:
Bahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

##vote palmar

I just got confirmation that although closed the roles would all be standard. Nice troll though.


Can OP confirm this setup question or is that hidden information?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 00:22 GMT
#1077
I just checked myself, both Grack and Oats were openly taking shots at each other when they graced us with theit presence. Additionally, Palmar was one of the only other things they both talked about. It could still be that Palmar was their ideal first mislynch, but depending on how this roleclaim fiasco plays out it's quite possible Palmar was the third sum player and they decided to try playing super-insular as opposed to distancing themselves.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 00:31 GMT
#1080
On December 15 2017 09:23 Arya321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 09:22 Kmatt wrote:
I just checked myself, both Grack and Oats were openly taking shots at each other when they graced us with theit presence. Additionally, Palmar was one of the only other things they both talked about. It could still be that Palmar was their ideal first mislynch, but depending on how this roleclaim fiasco plays out it's quite possible Palmar was the third sum player and they decided to try playing super-insular as opposed to distancing themselves.

Would it be funny as hell if the scum team bussed each other in that fashion lmao.


Congratulations, you played yourselves.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 00:34 GMT
#1082
Oh yeah, I forgot; with our Vig taking his shot last night I can do this!

On the second day of Christmas, Damdred gave to me...

Two night kills,

And surprise murder mystery!
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 00:54 GMT
#1087
On December 15 2017 09:44 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 09:34 Kmatt wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot; with our Vig taking his shot last night I can do this!

On the second day of Christmas, Damdred gave to me...

Two night kills,

And surprise murder mystery!


Tell me... did you kill the streak?


The streak dies when it's revealed that I'm not scum, right? You can hold on a smidge longer.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 01:04 GMT
#1089
On December 15 2017 09:59 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 09:54 Kmatt wrote:
On December 15 2017 09:44 Chezinu wrote:
On December 15 2017 09:34 Kmatt wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot; with our Vig taking his shot last night I can do this!

On the second day of Christmas, Damdred gave to me...

Two night kills,

And surprise murder mystery!


Tell me... did you kill the streak?


The streak dies when it's revealed that I'm not scum, right? You can hold on a smidge longer.

A townie would confess that the streak is gone?


I mean it is gone but by rules of the game you don't know that until I'm revealed. Of course at this point there's a fairly small pool of potential mafia players left and I'm content to say I'm not among them.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 05:28 GMT
#1099
On December 15 2017 13:32 prplhz wrote:
so what are we gonna do today boys?


Same thing we do every day.

Lynch some unsuspecting sap. If Damdred-senpai notices me at some point we could get a clear answer on who to hit, but that alone might keep him from answering.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 06:41 GMT
#1115
I was on board with a Palmar wagon D1 so this works

##vote Palmar
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 15:11 GMT
#1343
Oh my goodness is anyone else not claiming a power? Please just lynch Palmar and be done with it.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 16:44 GMT
#1351
On December 16 2017 00:57 Palmar wrote:
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On December 16 2017 00:11 Kmatt wrote:
Oh my goodness is anyone else not claiming a power? Please just lynch Palmar and be done with it.

Kind of a scummy post. Complete non-involvement and refusal to look behind the status quo


Okay real talk what is this "status quo" because all I read is you repeatedly lying, denying that you wrote plain text anyone can read, some shtick about multiple personalities...
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 23:22 GMT
#1380
So about this SK business: If all mafia get lynched and multiple townies are alive, does the game end in a town victory or does it stay active until SK is killed?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 23:59 GMT
#1396
On December 16 2017 08:48 prplhz wrote:
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On December 16 2017 08:40 Conversion wrote:
I’m not feeling well

I don’t understand defense of Palmar. even if town he shit up by fake claiming like 5 things for some dumb reason.

reminds me of when vivax fake claimed cop to try and get HF lynched and flipped town if he is town.

But we don't lynch townies because we are angry with how they play. That's rule 1 of mafia.


I'm not angry with him, but Palmar was scumread by multiple people prior to the D1 lynch. Since then he's only given us more reason to lynch.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 00:18 GMT
#1399
On December 16 2017 09:02 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 08:50 prplhz wrote:
Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum.

If Palmar is taking credit for a SK shot then the SK will leave him to Town while shooting townies in the night. An SK isn´t going to kill Palmar for us.

The only problem with this is why Grack? Vigis prefer to kill lurkers while SKs kill whoever is pushing them or is most likely to find them. SKs are fighting for survival, not eliminating scummy players. SKs hunt scum by day to fit in and look townie, but by night it´s all about looking out for themselves.


Grack was one of the only people to publicly scumread Palmar at the time. Both he and Oats were on him since early on in the game. It wasn't until just before Oats went down that anyone else considered him seriously.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 00:44 GMT
#1402
On December 16 2017 09:31 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 09:18 Kmatt wrote:
On December 16 2017 09:02 Forumite wrote:
On December 16 2017 08:50 prplhz wrote:
Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum.

If Palmar is taking credit for a SK shot then the SK will leave him to Town while shooting townies in the night. An SK isn´t going to kill Palmar for us.

The only problem with this is why Grack? Vigis prefer to kill lurkers while SKs kill whoever is pushing them or is most likely to find them. SKs are fighting for survival, not eliminating scummy players. SKs hunt scum by day to fit in and look townie, but by night it´s all about looking out for themselves.


Grack was one of the only people to publicly scumread Palmar at the time. Both he and Oats were on him since early on in the game. It wasn't until just before Oats went down that anyone else considered him seriously.
That fits much better. SK Palmar killed Scum Grack, everyone else were fine with Palmar doing whatever. Not sure why Palmar was doing his weird claims though, he could have claimed Vigi instead and hoped that town would buy it a day or two, until too many nightkills made him a target again.


The problem with claiming vig is that as soon as the third scum player is out and the game hasn't ended (as per Arya's explanation), anyone with their head screwed on would know who to lynch. So long as a mafia player is alive the SK has plausible deniability. In a game with only 1 mafia left (assuming 3 at the start), our SK needs to buy as much time as possible before the town comes for him. Which is to say there are going to be two people who don't want the scum player lynched.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 01:46 GMT
#1438
On December 16 2017 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've been explicit about the fact that I'll remove my vote if I agree with you. prplhz is obviously with you. Fucking do something for a bit tomorrow instead of whatever this is.


This. The Palmar-prplhz crew is so hell-bent on convincing people not to vote their boi. We're not allowed to abstain so unless you can produce someone scummier it doesn't mean squat.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 16:48 GMT
#1477
On December 16 2017 20:45 Koshi wrote:
I will read later. But pls abandon the wagon.


You're still on the wagon ya dingus.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 20:22 GMT
#1500
On December 17 2017 05:10 Arya321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2017 04:46 Forumite wrote:
On December 17 2017 04:39 Arya321 wrote:
On December 17 2017 04:01 Forumite wrote:
On December 17 2017 03:19 Arya321 wrote:
On December 17 2017 03:16 Conversion wrote:
explain to me why Forumite wouldn't have just lynched me if he was mafia. both of you

This is actually a good question.
I also honestly starting to get a bad feeling about this lynch it to silent and to straight forward of a lynch.
@Everyone: If we don't lynch Palmar today who should we lynch instead?

Silent and straight forward is a bad reason to mistrust this lynch. Remember 2 scum are dead, who is going to protect him if he's mafia? Also prplhz and koshi have been on Palmars side today, so it's not unanimous, nor silent

It went silent really quickly as in very little talking about future lynches if this one fails and were on auto pilot. Most of the time these type of lynches indicate town lynches over mafia lynches from what I remember when I used to play all the time.

That's because scum try to save their buddies. Almost all scum are dead now...

I do agree that we should scumhunt again soon, but I'll leave that for later. I blame Palmar for that, making D2 all about him

Another thing is I think if Palmar was mafia he would of conceded by now. He knows he pretty much toast if he's mafia.


I've seen enough last-minute vote switches to want to hold out.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 20:54 GMT
#1508
On December 17 2017 05:32 Arya321 wrote:
Kinda wish Palmar didn't troll us so hard Night 1 and early Day 2.


Yeah, and it was completely unnecessary to begin with. He took his shot, could have either claimed it to protect himself in case of an actual lynch or just fell in line. At least that hit on Grack was fantastic. Now comes the tricky part.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 21:06 GMT
#1509
On December 17 2017 05:51 Conversion wrote:
prphlz i nede you to explain to me why you think Forumite is mafia. that would mean all 3 mafia tried to defend me and then Forumite just killed off Oats b/c the wagon spiralled


That makes a lot of sense, but keep in mind that a Mafia!Forumite would also be the only person to be 100% sure that Palmar was town. I know Palmar had a lot of confidence in him but I don't want to rule anyone out yet aside from Koshi/Arya/Eversince.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 17 2017 17:17 GMT
#1522
On December 18 2017 01:00 Koshi wrote:
We have so many misslynches left. I am ok doing nothing and lynch down a list. Chez is on top.


Any reason in particular to pick him? Or do you want to save it for day three? I don't really townread him myself but still had him fairly low on my lynch-list.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 18 2017 02:04 GMT
#1545
On December 18 2017 08:56 Conversion wrote:
@VE/kmatt prphllz ? you here?


Sorry I was busy for most of today and haven't gotten to read, catching up now.

I can understand Eversince taking the hit, even though Doc!Koshi should have been on that shit (???), but who even shoots HolyFlare? He's as afk as any scum this game, and possibly the only one more hell-bent on lynching Palmar than I was. Only think HF said of note was that he thought prplhz was mafia, but didn't live to explain why.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 03:30 GMT
#1647
On December 19 2017 11:20 prplhz wrote:
kill forumite, he literally just said that chez should be lynched for being hard to read

##Vote Forumite


Do you think that's inherently scummy? I know I'm short on any hard scumreads, so axing an ambiguous player is likely my best shot.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:22 GMT
#1709
I need to review day one for this, brb.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:31 GMT
#1719
Yeah I've done the math, I can't lynch Conversion today. Even if we know the last mafia is a strongarm, there's no way they would have bussed Oats day one. Both Grack and Mafia!Conversion would have been free to jump to my wagon, splitting the votes 4-4. From there Oats would be the one to switch to me, which makes obvious sense at the time as an attempt to save himself.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#1722
On December 20 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2017 03:27 Arya321 wrote:
On December 20 2017 03:25 Koshi wrote:
Chez is the best lynch by far. Conversion is playing guys. Come on... dont punish him. Kill the person who is unreadable.

Kill Chez. It points towards the weird kills as well potentially. Because he isnt reading.

HF isn't a weird kill? Plenty of us know he is a good player by reputation. Eversince had claimed blue so that why she died. DF was townread by others???? These aren't weird kills Koshi wake up.....

It is a "weird" kill.
HF was a dorment potentially good player. But he wasnt threatening at all to the last mafia.


It's been spelled out repeatedly-if tracker flipped, HF would be unlynchable with the Godfather out of play. They would have to spend a KP sooner or later.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:35 GMT
#1725
I have to go in on Chez here. If he's green then shit hits the fan, but it's my only real option having sat out this long.

##Vote Chezinu
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:36 GMT
#1726
On December 20 2017 03:34 Arya321 wrote:
Tbh though if we do have to decide Conversion vs Chez most likely chez but knowing chez is a hard to read player and Day 1 I did just remember I had df vs conversion scum vs town still kinda split there. Hmmmm why did I drop that???? Stuck now.


If you have something substantial on Conversion, the next 100 minutes would be a good time to share it.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:47 GMT
#1733
Remind me to ask the mafia team why they shot HolyFlare when this is over.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 20:35 GMT
#1741
Oh here we go
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 21:19 GMT
#1751
Think he was just frustrated and mashed the keyboard
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2017 18:21 GMT
#1798
I've been suddenly busy with Xmas stuff so I haven't been on much to post. I try to keep up with reading but ultimately not much to say. Real talk though if I was scum I'd likely be more active simply because I can tunnel vision any mislynch I want.

Scum keeping quiet when Oats went under was definitely the right call.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 22 2017 05:28 GMT
#1842
On December 22 2017 14:09 Arya321 wrote:
Everyone is so silent this Day Phase how come people don't want to talk? Only me and Conversion were the only ones doing extensive talking honestly.


Mafia have their work cut out for them. Once the intial two went down without giving any useful info we've been taking shots in the dark. Whoever's left is patiently thinning the herd.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 22 2017 05:38 GMT
#1843
By a combination of PoE and my gut the list I would lynch down is:

prphlz>VisceraEyes>Koshi>Conversion>Ayra

Ordinarily Conversion would be #1 or #2 for me, but the day one shenanigans just don't add up unless mafia were hell-bent on bussing for some reason.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 22 2017 18:41 GMT
#1866
Do we vote today? The last day post didn't have a timer.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 22 2017 20:51 GMT
#1881
Sorry, I asked about it since I couldn't remember when vote was. By the time I opened my phone again it was 3:34.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 23 2017 18:30 GMT
#1888
I think they took your idea to heart.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 23 2017 21:46 GMT
#1892
On December 24 2017 05:00 Arya321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2017 03:30 Kmatt wrote:
I think they took your idea to heart.

Who?


About the no-lynch. Nobody had a word to say about the upcoming lynch.

If there really is a doc/jailer in this game, they've taken their sweet time revealing it. I'm banking that mafia just held the shot to wait on another mislynch.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 23 2017 21:59 GMT
#1896
More importantly, someone needs to claim that. If it's a doc we have two confirmed town.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 24 2017 05:53 GMT
#1905
I can see myself voting prphlz or VE next cycle. Assuming no one contests Koshi's claim (which would be suicidal at this point), those two are at the top of my list.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 27 2017 05:35 GMT
#1922
Well I'm gonna open with ##Vote prphlz and see where things go. glhf
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 27 2017 21:19 GMT
#1955
Wait do our votes count if it was night phase? I was just rereading and considering the VE wagon when I hit that post.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 27 2017 21:24 GMT
#1956
Wait nevermind I'm illiterate. Still say we should go for prplhz.

In spite of that, we should keep quiet on our vote pattern tonight. The last mafia is gonna prime the votes for the final mislynch.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 28 2017 06:15 GMT
#1961
On December 28 2017 06:42 Arya321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2017 06:24 Kmatt wrote:
Wait nevermind I'm illiterate. Still say we should go for prplhz.

In spite of that, we should keep quiet on our vote pattern tonight. The last mafia is gonna prime the votes for the final mislynch.

What makes you so sure it's Prplhz especially you were voting him earlier?


Mostly PoE at this point. Koshi is confirmed town, I'm VT, which just leaves you and prphlz. He's sketchier than you by comparison, if nothing else.

However, with Koshi being un-votable, I imagine he's the shot tonight, priming the next lynch as me, since you two were considering it earlier and prphlz has been hinting at me for a while. Game's in your hands now.

Technically it's possible they let Koshi live and shoot you. That would kind of work to sew the seeds of doubt against him, but unless they can disprove his vet claim it doesn't mean anything. Ultimately it comes down to leaving alive whoever would vote for me, and either of you or Koshi fit that bill.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 28 2017 06:16 GMT
#1962
On December 28 2017 15:15 Kmatt wrote:
Mostly PoE at this point. Koshi is confirmed veteran...

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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 28 2017 06:21 GMT
#1963
On December 28 2017 15:15 Kmatt wrote:Ultimately it comes down to leaving alive whoever would vote for me, and either of you or Koshi fit that bill.


Which is also why I recommended you not announce who you plan to vote for until mafia takes their shot.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 28 2017 20:41 GMT
#1967
Did the night cycle end yet? Surely someone got a cap busted in them.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 28 2017 22:00 GMT
#1969
Well now we go all-in

##Vote prphlz
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 22:22:31
December 30 2017 22:21 GMT
#1992
So wait how did mafia get a double kill night two? If prplhz was a goon then where did the extra kill power come from?
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-30 22:28:54
December 30 2017 22:28 GMT
#1993
Just read qt, now I get it.

When/why was HF shot? I didn't see his name in the QT
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 31 2017 01:02 GMT
#1995
Also what's a "wandering townie"? Google gave me nothing
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