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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 15 2017 23:59 GMT
#1396
On December 16 2017 08:48 prplhz wrote:
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On December 16 2017 08:40 Conversion wrote:
I’m not feeling well

I don’t understand defense of Palmar. even if town he shit up by fake claiming like 5 things for some dumb reason.

reminds me of when vivax fake claimed cop to try and get HF lynched and flipped town if he is town.

But we don't lynch townies because we are angry with how they play. That's rule 1 of mafia.


I'm not angry with him, but Palmar was scumread by multiple people prior to the D1 lynch. Since then he's only given us more reason to lynch.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 00:18 GMT
#1399
On December 16 2017 09:02 Forumite wrote:
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On December 16 2017 08:50 prplhz wrote:
Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum.

If Palmar is taking credit for a SK shot then the SK will leave him to Town while shooting townies in the night. An SK isn´t going to kill Palmar for us.

The only problem with this is why Grack? Vigis prefer to kill lurkers while SKs kill whoever is pushing them or is most likely to find them. SKs are fighting for survival, not eliminating scummy players. SKs hunt scum by day to fit in and look townie, but by night it´s all about looking out for themselves.


Grack was one of the only people to publicly scumread Palmar at the time. Both he and Oats were on him since early on in the game. It wasn't until just before Oats went down that anyone else considered him seriously.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 00:44 GMT
#1402
On December 16 2017 09:31 Forumite wrote:
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On December 16 2017 09:18 Kmatt wrote:
On December 16 2017 09:02 Forumite wrote:
On December 16 2017 08:50 prplhz wrote:
Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum.

If Palmar is taking credit for a SK shot then the SK will leave him to Town while shooting townies in the night. An SK isn´t going to kill Palmar for us.

The only problem with this is why Grack? Vigis prefer to kill lurkers while SKs kill whoever is pushing them or is most likely to find them. SKs are fighting for survival, not eliminating scummy players. SKs hunt scum by day to fit in and look townie, but by night it´s all about looking out for themselves.


Grack was one of the only people to publicly scumread Palmar at the time. Both he and Oats were on him since early on in the game. It wasn't until just before Oats went down that anyone else considered him seriously.
That fits much better. SK Palmar killed Scum Grack, everyone else were fine with Palmar doing whatever. Not sure why Palmar was doing his weird claims though, he could have claimed Vigi instead and hoped that town would buy it a day or two, until too many nightkills made him a target again.


The problem with claiming vig is that as soon as the third scum player is out and the game hasn't ended (as per Arya's explanation), anyone with their head screwed on would know who to lynch. So long as a mafia player is alive the SK has plausible deniability. In a game with only 1 mafia left (assuming 3 at the start), our SK needs to buy as much time as possible before the town comes for him. Which is to say there are going to be two people who don't want the scum player lynched.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 01:46 GMT
#1438
On December 16 2017 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've been explicit about the fact that I'll remove my vote if I agree with you. prplhz is obviously with you. Fucking do something for a bit tomorrow instead of whatever this is.


This. The Palmar-prplhz crew is so hell-bent on convincing people not to vote their boi. We're not allowed to abstain so unless you can produce someone scummier it doesn't mean squat.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 16:48 GMT
#1477
On December 16 2017 20:45 Koshi wrote:
I will read later. But pls abandon the wagon.


You're still on the wagon ya dingus.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 20:22 GMT
#1500
On December 17 2017 05:10 Arya321 wrote:
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On December 17 2017 04:46 Forumite wrote:
On December 17 2017 04:39 Arya321 wrote:
On December 17 2017 04:01 Forumite wrote:
On December 17 2017 03:19 Arya321 wrote:
On December 17 2017 03:16 Conversion wrote:
explain to me why Forumite wouldn't have just lynched me if he was mafia. both of you

This is actually a good question.
I also honestly starting to get a bad feeling about this lynch it to silent and to straight forward of a lynch.
@Everyone: If we don't lynch Palmar today who should we lynch instead?

Silent and straight forward is a bad reason to mistrust this lynch. Remember 2 scum are dead, who is going to protect him if he's mafia? Also prplhz and koshi have been on Palmars side today, so it's not unanimous, nor silent

It went silent really quickly as in very little talking about future lynches if this one fails and were on auto pilot. Most of the time these type of lynches indicate town lynches over mafia lynches from what I remember when I used to play all the time.

That's because scum try to save their buddies. Almost all scum are dead now...

I do agree that we should scumhunt again soon, but I'll leave that for later. I blame Palmar for that, making D2 all about him

Another thing is I think if Palmar was mafia he would of conceded by now. He knows he pretty much toast if he's mafia.


I've seen enough last-minute vote switches to want to hold out.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 20:54 GMT
#1508
On December 17 2017 05:32 Arya321 wrote:
Kinda wish Palmar didn't troll us so hard Night 1 and early Day 2.


Yeah, and it was completely unnecessary to begin with. He took his shot, could have either claimed it to protect himself in case of an actual lynch or just fell in line. At least that hit on Grack was fantastic. Now comes the tricky part.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 16 2017 21:06 GMT
#1509
On December 17 2017 05:51 Conversion wrote:
prphlz i nede you to explain to me why you think Forumite is mafia. that would mean all 3 mafia tried to defend me and then Forumite just killed off Oats b/c the wagon spiralled


That makes a lot of sense, but keep in mind that a Mafia!Forumite would also be the only person to be 100% sure that Palmar was town. I know Palmar had a lot of confidence in him but I don't want to rule anyone out yet aside from Koshi/Arya/Eversince.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 17 2017 17:17 GMT
#1522
On December 18 2017 01:00 Koshi wrote:
We have so many misslynches left. I am ok doing nothing and lynch down a list. Chez is on top.


Any reason in particular to pick him? Or do you want to save it for day three? I don't really townread him myself but still had him fairly low on my lynch-list.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 18 2017 02:04 GMT
#1545
On December 18 2017 08:56 Conversion wrote:
@VE/kmatt prphllz ? you here?


Sorry I was busy for most of today and haven't gotten to read, catching up now.

I can understand Eversince taking the hit, even though Doc!Koshi should have been on that shit (???), but who even shoots HolyFlare? He's as afk as any scum this game, and possibly the only one more hell-bent on lynching Palmar than I was. Only think HF said of note was that he thought prplhz was mafia, but didn't live to explain why.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 03:30 GMT
#1647
On December 19 2017 11:20 prplhz wrote:
kill forumite, he literally just said that chez should be lynched for being hard to read

##Vote Forumite


Do you think that's inherently scummy? I know I'm short on any hard scumreads, so axing an ambiguous player is likely my best shot.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:22 GMT
#1709
I need to review day one for this, brb.
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:31 GMT
#1719
Yeah I've done the math, I can't lynch Conversion today. Even if we know the last mafia is a strongarm, there's no way they would have bussed Oats day one. Both Grack and Mafia!Conversion would have been free to jump to my wagon, splitting the votes 4-4. From there Oats would be the one to switch to me, which makes obvious sense at the time as an attempt to save himself.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#1722
On December 20 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2017 03:27 Arya321 wrote:
On December 20 2017 03:25 Koshi wrote:
Chez is the best lynch by far. Conversion is playing guys. Come on... dont punish him. Kill the person who is unreadable.

Kill Chez. It points towards the weird kills as well potentially. Because he isnt reading.

HF isn't a weird kill? Plenty of us know he is a good player by reputation. Eversince had claimed blue so that why she died. DF was townread by others???? These aren't weird kills Koshi wake up.....

It is a "weird" kill.
HF was a dorment potentially good player. But he wasnt threatening at all to the last mafia.


It's been spelled out repeatedly-if tracker flipped, HF would be unlynchable with the Godfather out of play. They would have to spend a KP sooner or later.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:35 GMT
#1725
I have to go in on Chez here. If he's green then shit hits the fan, but it's my only real option having sat out this long.

##Vote Chezinu
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:36 GMT
#1726
On December 20 2017 03:34 Arya321 wrote:
Tbh though if we do have to decide Conversion vs Chez most likely chez but knowing chez is a hard to read player and Day 1 I did just remember I had df vs conversion scum vs town still kinda split there. Hmmmm why did I drop that???? Stuck now.


If you have something substantial on Conversion, the next 100 minutes would be a good time to share it.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 18:47 GMT
#1733
Remind me to ask the mafia team why they shot HolyFlare when this is over.
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 20:35 GMT
#1741
Oh here we go
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Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 19 2017 21:19 GMT
#1751
Think he was just frustrated and mashed the keyboard
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2017 18:21 GMT
#1798
I've been suddenly busy with Xmas stuff so I haven't been on much to post. I try to keep up with reading but ultimately not much to say. Real talk though if I was scum I'd likely be more active simply because I can tunnel vision any mislynch I want.

Scum keeping quiet when Oats went under was definitely the right call.
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