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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 14 2017 09:47 GMT
#5
Yeh I managed to keep up with that last game from the obs so I will /in
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 16 2017 13:21 GMT
#31
/out
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 17 2017 12:17 GMT
#35
On November 17 2017 02:58 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I was looking forward to playing with kels


<3 , Would play but I don't trust myself to maintain interest and I don't want to ruin the game.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 17 2017 12:18 GMT
#36
meh screw it I can set reminders on my phone and stuff so I at least read the thread and post a few times a day.

/in
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 20:39 GMT
#65
On November 19 2017 05:33 Damdred wrote:
dammit just first on this page, oats is mafia though so life is easy


agreed,

see you all D2
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 21:12 GMT
#69
On November 19 2017 06:11 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 06:06 Damdred wrote:
I keep f5 and hope someone else has posted but alas, rux being absent is interesting when we spoke not to long ago on discord!

##vote ruxxar


damdred no mafioso.
dont break my heart again.


This guys been fucking lurking in this here thread, mother fuck.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 22:31 GMT
#84
On November 19 2017 06:59 Z-BosoN wrote:
KelsierSC, explain yourself. Are you pretending to engage in this banter in order to excuse yourself from posting?

Other than that, Stanislav Petrov seems like utter scum.

# Vote Stanislav Petrov



Am I pretending to post to avoid posting?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 22:37 GMT
#85
On November 19 2017 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!


man you're playing pretty loose my dude , you ok
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 22:46 GMT
#87
On November 19 2017 07:45 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!


man you're playing pretty loose my dude , you ok


Yes, I know it seems stupid but rux has not played many games above 13 players. When I jokingly ask him for his scum team he only lists two other players (including himself), if he was scum he would be aware the scum team has to be larger than three with the extra people.

Therefore I think Rux dumb telled himself town.


Can't tell if that's really smart or really stupid.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 23:06 GMT
#91
On November 19 2017 07:51 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:45 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!


man you're playing pretty loose my dude , you ok


Yes, I know it seems stupid but rux has not played many games above 13 players. When I jokingly ask him for his scum team he only lists two other players (including himself), if he was scum he would be aware the scum team has to be larger than three with the extra people.

Therefore I think Rux dumb telled himself town.


Can't tell if that's really smart or really stupid.


I know! I feel like im sonewhere between brilliant and idiocacy on this.


I don't know why I spent time thinking about this but i have concluded it's dumb.

although I would have respect if the mafia team is you, rux, koshi and foley and you are going for the most swagger as possible.

On November 19 2017 07:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:31 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 06:59 Z-BosoN wrote:
KelsierSC, explain yourself. Are you pretending to engage in this banter in order to excuse yourself from posting?

Other than that, Stanislav Petrov seems like utter scum.

# Vote Stanislav Petrov



Am I pretending to post to avoid posting?


No, you are actually posting, but you might be pretending to pretend to post to avoid questions about your pretending to post.

Ok I'll stop

Aside from Stan, who do you think is mafia?


let's just hang out . No need to go so hard in the paint this early.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 23:11 GMT
#93
On November 19 2017 08:10 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Actually going to revise what I said, Kelsier was behaving suspiciously in his post at Ruxxar, not with Ruxxar.
Though nothing says they're opposite alignments either.
TLDR Kelsier bad, Ruxxar null.


who are you actually?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 23:28 GMT
#95
On November 19 2017 08:18 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 08:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:51 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:45 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Hi tw.

I have decided ruxxy is just town and it is dumb but seems brilliant to me!


man you're playing pretty loose my dude , you ok


Yes, I know it seems stupid but rux has not played many games above 13 players. When I jokingly ask him for his scum team he only lists two other players (including himself), if he was scum he would be aware the scum team has to be larger than three with the extra people.

Therefore I think Rux dumb telled himself town.


Can't tell if that's really smart or really stupid.


I know! I feel like im sonewhere between brilliant and idiocacy on this.


I don't know why I spent time thinking about this but i have concluded it's dumb.

although I would have respect if the mafia team is you, rux, koshi and foley and you are going for the most swagger as possible.

On November 19 2017 07:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:31 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 06:59 Z-BosoN wrote:
KelsierSC, explain yourself. Are you pretending to engage in this banter in order to excuse yourself from posting?

Other than that, Stanislav Petrov seems like utter scum.

# Vote Stanislav Petrov



Am I pretending to post to avoid posting?


No, you are actually posting, but you might be pretending to pretend to post to avoid questions about your pretending to post.

Ok I'll stop

Aside from Stan, who do you think is mafia?


let's just hang out . No need to go so hard in the paint this early.


i disagree I think its smart now.

Now what do you think of stan etc talking about each other?

Boson seems super fucking ready to crack some heads, stans response didn't feel very natural but he might just be retarded.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 18 2017 23:55 GMT
#100
On November 19 2017 08:42 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
It's uncool to call people retarded my dude.
What do you think of Damdred?


I only said you might be.

Damdreds just this guy you know.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 10:40 GMT
#136
Good Morning,

Giving some thoughts on this early game.

Boson seems town , I feel like he is trying to perform keyhole surgery with a chainsaw but I appreciate the effort. I have played games with Chez before , it was a long time ago but he feels active and like he wants to play so i'm leaning town on him. I also liked how he pinged out conversion, who I don't really like, and then line he took with that.

With Conversion it felt like he just made some random questions/comments , didn't get any answer and retreated away. He asked why stan was mafia and don't know if he got a response. Then some weird comment about oats but said it was neutral. and just how he responded to questions, can't put my finger on why I didn't like them but not a big fan.

Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 12:59 GMT
#142
On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total.
Care to explain what you mean?


jarring

adjective
1.
incongruous in a striking or shocking way; clashing.
"the telephone struck a jarring note in those Renaissance surroundings"
2.
causing a physical shock, jolt, or vibration.
"the van came to a jarring halt"
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 13:46 GMT
#144
On November 19 2017 22:29 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total.
Care to explain what you mean?


jarring

adjective
1.
incongruous in a striking or shocking way; clashing.
"the telephone struck a jarring note in those Renaissance surroundings"
2.
causing a physical shock, jolt, or vibration.
"the van came to a jarring halt"


Thanks merriam.

Now show me what tumble wood said that is either:
1) incongruous in a striking or shocking way; clashing.
or
2) "causing a physical shock, jolt, or vibration."


seriously?

I was reading through the thread catching up, came across tumbles posts and they didn't feel right.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 14:13 GMT
#146
On November 19 2017 22:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 22:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 22:29 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total.
Care to explain what you mean?


jarring

adjective
1.
incongruous in a striking or shocking way; clashing.
"the telephone struck a jarring note in those Renaissance surroundings"
2.
causing a physical shock, jolt, or vibration.
"the van came to a jarring halt"


Thanks merriam.

Now show me what tumble wood said that is either:
1) incongruous in a striking or shocking way; clashing.
or
2) "causing a physical shock, jolt, or vibration."


seriously?

I was reading through the thread catching up, came across tumbles posts and they didn't feel right.



How about explaining your read instead of making up excuses.


I'm not sure what you are trying to do here. But I literally just explained it.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 15:01 GMT
#149
On November 19 2017 23:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 22:59 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 22:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 22:29 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total.
Care to explain what you mean?


jarring

adjective
1.
incongruous in a striking or shocking way; clashing.
"the telephone struck a jarring note in those Renaissance surroundings"
2.
causing a physical shock, jolt, or vibration.
"the van came to a jarring halt"


Thanks merriam.

Now show me what tumble wood said that is either:
1) incongruous in a striking or shocking way; clashing.
or
2) "causing a physical shock, jolt, or vibration."


seriously?

I was reading through the thread catching up, came across tumbles posts and they didn't feel right.



How about explaining your read instead of making up excuses.


I'm not sure what you are trying to do here. But I literally just explained it.


Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


Where did you explain this?


it's in the quote chain.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 17:49 GMT
#172
On November 20 2017 02:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 00:14 darthfoley wrote:
I still want Boson to explain why he's trying to make people choose into his determined lynch options 6 hours into the game


If you think Boson is town, why do you give a shit?

DF post string is pretty scummy. Too much indecisive shade throwing and too much trust in Chez over one super non-alignment indicative post.

#Vote Darthfoley



yeh agree with this.

I'm watching NFL/ studying but will be in thread.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 18:37 GMT
#179
On November 20 2017 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
The Russian dude agrees with zbo when zbo wants to Lynch him?


Yeh it was weird.

On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


Stan is a smurf though so I don't know what the fuck you do with that.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 18:51 GMT
#182
Darth and Ruxxar are probably worth taking a look at.

The feeling I get from rux is that he is asking people to justify or explain things that aren't that difficult to comprehend. It felt like he trying to give the illusion of activity.

On November 19 2017 20:49 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

I dont like this post.
Its cramming too many thoughts into one post where it ends up being unlegible garbage.
I'm not even sure I know what stance you are taking with this.

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 08:10 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Actually going to revise what I said, Kelsier was behaving suspiciously in his post at Ruxxar, not with Ruxxar.
Though nothing says they're opposite alignments either.
TLDR Kelsier bad, Ruxxar null.


This followup isnt helping when I can't understand the argument you made in the first place.


This followed up by asking me to explain a feeling read, I don't know how you can explain feelings.


Then again I really didn't like anything darth posted and it felt like he was just trying to mimic thread opinion and almost try and pocket rux.

On November 20 2017 00:18 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total.
Care to explain what you mean?


Good guy Ruxx



On November 20 2017 00:39 darthfoley wrote:
I still don't think Kelsier's explanation of TWs posts have been explained or believable. Like 3 one liners is not enough material to be considered jarring IMO. Makes it sound like a much more solid read than it actually is.

Maybe I'm just roasting the dude over word choice, but word choice matters


On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something.

I feel like Im missing something.

Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare?


I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx.

TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy.



darth perhaps you can explain why I have to give a full explanation for my TW read which you don't think I have enough basis for, but you can also read TW as scummy.

I probably have darth as my top lynch. I doubt that mafia darth would link up with mafia rux that hard so perhaps rux is ok I just don't think his questions are that useful.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 19:05 GMT
#185
Hapa you got anything else?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 23:44 GMT
#238
On November 20 2017 07:53 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 03:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Darth and Ruxxar are probably worth taking a look at.

The feeling I get from rux is that he is asking people to justify or explain things that aren't that difficult to comprehend. It felt like he trying to give the illusion of activity.

On November 19 2017 20:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

I dont like this post.
Its cramming too many thoughts into one post where it ends up being unlegible garbage.
I'm not even sure I know what stance you are taking with this.

On November 19 2017 08:10 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Actually going to revise what I said, Kelsier was behaving suspiciously in his post at Ruxxar, not with Ruxxar.
Though nothing says they're opposite alignments either.
TLDR Kelsier bad, Ruxxar null.


This followup isnt helping when I can't understand the argument you made in the first place.


This followed up by asking me to explain a feeling read, I don't know how you can explain feelings.


Then again I really didn't like anything darth posted and it felt like he was just trying to mimic thread opinion and almost try and pocket rux.

On November 20 2017 00:18 darthfoley wrote:
On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total.
Care to explain what you mean?


Good guy Ruxx



On November 20 2017 00:39 darthfoley wrote:
I still don't think Kelsier's explanation of TWs posts have been explained or believable. Like 3 one liners is not enough material to be considered jarring IMO. Makes it sound like a much more solid read than it actually is.

Maybe I'm just roasting the dude over word choice, but word choice matters


On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something.

I feel like Im missing something.

Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare?


I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx.

TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy.



darth perhaps you can explain why I have to give a full explanation for my TW read which you don't think I have enough basis for, but you can also read TW as scummy.

I probably have darth as my top lynch. I doubt that mafia darth would link up with mafia rux that hard so perhaps rux is ok I just don't think his questions are that useful.


Your read was bad and your defense of it was bullshit.
Your first reaction to getting pressured was trying to pull up excuses and try to keep your image from being tarnished.
Playing dumb is not going to win any townie points in my book.


This will probably be a futile effort to help you understand but let me just go through what actually happened and then maybe you can calm down a little bit.

My impression of TW was just i didn't like his posts when I was reading through the thread, it didn't feel like a natural entry. it's simply a feeling I had. I don't know how i can find evidence or data for a feeling , so you badgering me to explain it is pretty pointless.
I'm not "throwing scum on him" and trying to get the guy lynched. You seem pretty focused on something which is totally irrelevant and going way too aggressive . Ask yourself am I really making a hard. terrible read of TW and trying to force it down people's throat ?
As for this trying to "keep my image being tarnished nonsense", I think your just going off the deep end and making a fool of yourself.

I don't really know what to do with the koshi posts.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 23:48 GMT
#239
On November 20 2017 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 05:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 20 2017 05:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 20 2017 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBoson I find darth scummy. Of particular note there was a sequence where he called you town and then immediately was like "I still want ZBoson to explain this completely trivial matter though." in case anyone else found you scummy. WHAT SAY YOU?!?!


I found it scummy as fuck, but it looks like it is TOO scummy knowwhatimsayin?

Uncertain as fuck though. I’d rather lynch a more quiet fellow

Who?


Dunno man, I’m just Q&A here atm, on phone.

Holyflare and tumbleweed are very tempting.

Stan .... maybe. He just posted when I was randomly accusing him and was yet to be seen.

It's almost 24 hours and you don't really have any reads?!?

Why HF and TW? Over like conversion


I've called out Conversion in one of his only posts of the game and you called me mafia but then when someone wants to lynch me you ask why not conversion?

wut


This is ok
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 19 2017 23:57 GMT
#245
On November 20 2017 08:53 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
##Vote: darthfoley


...and
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 20 2017 00:11 GMT
#249
On November 20 2017 08:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 08:53 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
##Vote: darthfoley


...and


Was going to wait for some kind of qualifier but i have to sleep.

If no explanation is forthcoming i'll probably lynch Stan instead.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 11:31 GMT
#279
On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.


Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me.


Just out of curiosity did this come after a filter dive of Damdred or just as you were reading the thread.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 11:33 GMT
#280
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
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On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


I'm somewhat concerned that darthfoley is "factually" the most suspicious person to you. Perhaps you can elaborate on why he is suspicious to you and how you reconcile this with your other reads.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 11:58 GMT
#281
On November 20 2017 14:43 Tumblewood wrote:
no real scumreads so i'm gonna try the thing where you ask people questions


How's that going for you
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 15:57 GMT
#342
I'm probably going to not be around at deadline as it conflicts with my gym schedule but I'll give where i'm at right now and come to a decision before I leave

The group i'd want to lynch out of would be . df,tumble,stan,conversion,oats and ruxxar. I'm not going to consider anyone else for D1,

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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:09 GMT
#347
First outcome would be I don't want to lynch oats, I had his name down because it had come up in the thread a few times but I actually like the vibe I get from him and he posted a few things that I found myself nodding to so he's ok.

I don't want to lynch stan, I initially didn't like how he just came out of nowhere and voted darth when the pressure was on darth. But thinking about it more and reading Stan I get the impression that he isn't trying to make friends or hang back and blend in . He was pretty aggressive early on and then just comes out of nowhere with no justification and puts the vote out there.If i'm mafia in that situation I probably say something like
"oh kelsier was scummy but seems ok now and I like the pressure people have put on df so have him as scum"
Yeh I like Stan as town the more I think about it.

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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:14 GMT
#351
On November 21 2017 01:07 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 00:57 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm probably going to not be around at deadline as it conflicts with my gym schedule but I'll give where i'm at right now and come to a decision before I leave

The group i'd want to lynch out of would be . df,tumble,stan,conversion,oats and ruxxar. I'm not going to consider anyone else for D1,



Why Conversion or Ruxx? I understand Stan, Oats, and TW to an extent


This is good as I can answer you and conversion in the same post.

With conversion I didn't like the early play

On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning,

Giving some thoughts on this early game.

Boson seems town , I feel like he is trying to perform keyhole surgery with a chainsaw but I appreciate the effort. I have played games with Chez before , it was a long time ago but he feels active and like he wants to play so i'm leaning town on him. I also liked how he pinged out conversion, who I don't really like, and then line he took with that.

With Conversion it felt like he just made some random questions/comments , didn't get any answer and retreated away. He asked why stan was mafia and don't know if he got a response. Then some weird comment about oats but said it was neutral. and just how he responded to questions, can't put my finger on why I didn't like them but not a big fan.

Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


Since then he's tried to push this Stan vote and not really done anything else but call me lazy. I haven't seen anything that counts as pressure.


As for ruxxar it's what HF and I posted about earlier with the randomness and weird focus of his play, I can give a more detailed answer if you need.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:18 GMT
#355
On November 21 2017 01:15 Conversion wrote:
first off, @Kelsier,.I feel like voting on the largest wagon without explaining why they're scummy, saying they're instantly the most suspicious person with 0 references in their filter to said person is the textbook definition of hanging back and trying to blend in.

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


also, trying not to make friends? he has like 5 posts and you're trying to do some deeep reading that I'm not seeing from reading his filter.

then all of a sudden you don't like me even though I'm clearing pressuring someone who's play looks scummy? wtf lol


This seems to be a popular yet incorrect opinion so let me respond.

All of his posts are calling people scummy and trying to get a lynch.

Plus coming back hours later with nothing in between and having to put in bold your vote like that doesn't blend in. Obviously it doesn't because everyone noticed it and was like wtf. I don't feel like mafia does that. Like you hedge your bets as mafia in that position.

I haven't liked you from the start of the game so I don't know what your last sentence is.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:20 GMT
#357
On November 21 2017 01:16 Conversion wrote:
I'm just going to ignore the fact that you haven't really pressured anyone either and mirror Damdred's sentiment here

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote:
On November 21 2017 01:09 KelsierSC wrote:
First outcome would be I don't want to lynch oats, I had his name down because it had come up in the thread a few times but I actually like the vibe I get from him and he posted a few things that I found myself nodding to so he's ok.

I don't want to lynch stan, I initially didn't like how he just came out of nowhere and voted darth when the pressure was on darth. But thinking about it more and reading Stan I get the impression that he isn't trying to make friends or hang back and blend in . He was pretty aggressive early on and then just comes out of nowhere with no justification and puts the vote out there.If i'm mafia in that situation I probably say something like
"oh kelsier was scummy but seems ok now and I like the pressure people have put on df so have him as scum"
Yeh I like Stan as town the more I think about it.




I need you to show how this is true from stans filter



As people mentioned it isn't a long filter, but it felt like every post was calling someone scummy or calling for a lynch.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:21 GMT
#358
On November 21 2017 01:19 Conversion wrote:
then we can agree to disagree there

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On November 20 2017 03:51 KelsierSC wrote:
Darth and Ruxxar are probably worth taking a look at.

The feeling I get from rux is that he is asking people to justify or explain things that aren't that difficult to comprehend. It felt like he trying to give the illusion of activity.

On November 19 2017 20:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

I dont like this post.
Its cramming too many thoughts into one post where it ends up being unlegible garbage.
I'm not even sure I know what stance you are taking with this.

On November 19 2017 08:10 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Actually going to revise what I said, Kelsier was behaving suspiciously in his post at Ruxxar, not with Ruxxar.
Though nothing says they're opposite alignments either.
TLDR Kelsier bad, Ruxxar null.


This followup isnt helping when I can't understand the argument you made in the first place.


This followed up by asking me to explain a feeling read, I don't know how you can explain feelings.


Then again I really didn't like anything darth posted and it felt like he was just trying to mimic thread opinion and almost try and pocket rux.

On November 20 2017 00:18 darthfoley wrote:
On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:
On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.


"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total.
Care to explain what you mean?


Good guy Ruxx



On November 20 2017 00:39 darthfoley wrote:
I still don't think Kelsier's explanation of TWs posts have been explained or believable. Like 3 one liners is not enough material to be considered jarring IMO. Makes it sound like a much more solid read than it actually is.

Maybe I'm just roasting the dude over word choice, but word choice matters


On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something.

I feel like Im missing something.

Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare?


I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx.

TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy.



darth perhaps you can explain why I have to give a full explanation for my TW read which you don't think I have enough basis for, but you can also read TW as scummy.

I probably have darth as my top lynch. I doubt that mafia darth would link up with mafia rux that hard so perhaps rux is ok I just don't think his questions are that useful.


can I ask you why you have darth as your top lynch at this point in time, yet you wouldn't vote to pressure him?


In general I don't vote early , i'm going to consider my options then make my vote.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:26 GMT
#363
On November 20 2017 23:01 ruXxar wrote:
I don’t want to lynch kelsier anymore.
Despite his shitty reaction earlier, he’s making up for it by being active and aggressive.

I had both Stan and Kelsey as mafia, don’t think they both are. If one between them then it’s Stan.

Don’t like tumblewood so far. Too passive and apathetic for my taste. Seems disinterested.

Koshi looks real bad so far. I’ve seen his scum before and this is the same behavior.
At the least he should be pressured to stop whatever bullshit he’s got going right now.
For a self declared town leader with god reads in previous games he hasn’t got much to show for it.


Like this is the sort of blend in post that mafia makes when you have to go against a previous read and try to get a new wagon started.


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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:27 GMT
#366
On November 21 2017 01:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
On November 21 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote:
VE, Ruxx, Conversion maybe HF town

HF can you explain how Ruxx is "looking in the wrong places" or whatever you said? Examples etc


Didn't like his questioning on stan or whatever his name is. Was quite obvious he meant that damdred, if mafia, would have a good town read on ruxxar.

Then his posts he picks out throughout the game just seem really odd. He presses the kelsier point far too much and like I said in my post earlier to you, what is mafia kelsier's motive to lie about a post that stuck out from the thread? Seems really fucking stupid to do and a stupid line of questioning.

He's just picking on things that don't align in my mind with what a towny would pick on. His scum list is basically that he couldn't understand a basic stan read and kelsier bs.

ok i know you said rux was town for dumbtelling, but that seems to have disappeared and you also called ve conftown for the same thing. why is rux not conftown in your mind?


This is weird when hf has already said why he doesn't like rux.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:33 GMT
#369
On November 21 2017 01:17 darthfoley wrote:
Good guy Conversion


Why is conversion town?
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:41 GMT
#373
I think i'd rather lynch tumble,conv or ruxxar at this point over df
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:44 GMT
#377
On November 21 2017 01:40 Damdred wrote:
Kel I require you nit to ignore me and expand right now on your stan read with examples. Because it reads like total bullshit


Just for you baby girl. I will bold parts where he is aggressive and calling people scum

On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


On November 19 2017 08:10 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Actually going to revise what I said, Kelsier was behaving suspiciously in his post at Ruxxar, not with Ruxxar.
Though nothing says they're opposite alignments either.
TLDR Kelsier bad, Ruxxar null.



On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers


On November 20 2017 08:53 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
##Vote: darthfoley



I've already explained my reasoning but he is pretty aggressive early on and then just to vote out of the blue with no qualifier. IMO mafia doesn't do that.

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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 16:51 GMT
#380
damdred am i town?
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 17:12 GMT
#387
On November 21 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:56 darthfoley wrote:
On November 21 2017 01:44 ruXxar wrote:
On November 21 2017 01:27 darthfoley wrote:
It's just bad how I have 6 votes for one question and "being aggressive all over the place" which is more or less what happened in last game D1. I guess I can understand it from the POV of people who haven't played much with me, but those like Oats and Koshi voting me without much justification is bad or mafia or both


Talk to me about koshi.


I find it easier on my patience to just ignore him

My only beef with him is that he squated down on my wagon for no reason. So I guess you could say i'm not a fan. No idea what he's trying to do right now.

What do you make of Oats/Stan/TW?


Tbh they’re all can lynch today, and I’d lynch any of them over you.

Oats meta is off the charts. He doesn’t resemble neither his town or scum game from what I know of him. He’s done less towny things than usual though, and the things he’s done seem forced and artificial.

Stan is a scum lean, don’t have much to add.

TW also scum lean. In particular this post made was iffy.
He looks like he got caught with his pants down and attempts a witty response to brush it off.
The fact still remains that the guy has no scum reads.

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 14:43 Tumblewood wrote:
no real scumreads so i'm gonna try the thing where you ask people questions


Right now he seems to be carefully prodding around, not trying to make any waves.


That's annoying as I was just about to say I want to lynch TW.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 17:22 GMT
#392
TW should be the lynch, I am unsure of ruxxar which does give me pause but yeh it's tricky.

I already said I didn't like his entry to the thread so no need to harp on that.

Since that point he hasn't made any contributions except trying to defend df ,forgive me but I don't see why. df didn't seem super town at that point,

On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?


He then backtracks saying he wasn't trying to defend df, so is df scummy then?

He said he doesn't have any scumreads but wants to ask questions.

On November 20 2017 14:43 Tumblewood wrote:
no real scumreads so i'm gonna try the thing where you ask people questions


Since then he asked like one question to hf. Which was a terrible question because hf had already explained the answer.

On November 21 2017 01:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
On November 21 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote:
VE, Ruxx, Conversion maybe HF town

HF can you explain how Ruxx is "looking in the wrong places" or whatever you said? Examples etc


Didn't like his questioning on stan or whatever his name is. Was quite obvious he meant that damdred, if mafia, would have a good town read on ruxxar.

Then his posts he picks out throughout the game just seem really odd. He presses the kelsier point far too much and like I said in my post earlier to you, what is mafia kelsier's motive to lie about a post that stuck out from the thread? Seems really fucking stupid to do and a stupid line of questioning.

He's just picking on things that don't align in my mind with what a towny would pick on. His scum list is basically that he couldn't understand a basic stan read and kelsier bs.

ok i know you said rux was town for dumbtelling, but that seems to have disappeared and you also called ve conftown for the same thing. why is rux not conftown in your mind?



So no real contributions, not really paying attention and imo defending df who he probably already knows is town.

##Vote Tumblewood





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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 17:26 GMT
#399
ruxxar and conversion both seem scummy to me . I don't know if they are trying to get a wagon off df for cred or trying to save a partner. Either way it probably makes Stan town.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 17:30 GMT
#401
On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
damdred am i town?

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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 17:55 GMT
#418
On November 21 2017 02:54 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
damdred am i town?



Idk, dont have a read on you. And honestly i do t like your stan read at all.


damdred is probably mafia,

if he is town he 100% reads me as town at this point.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 18:21 GMT
#437
I'm out until deadline , don't screw up
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 20:54 GMT
#632
I need to read through what happened.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 21:05 GMT
#636
On November 21 2017 05:57 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 05:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I need to read through what happened.


The real question: did we screw it up?


yeh pretty fucking bad

don't know how TW didn't get lynched.

Some comment oats made was pretty fucking special something like "why does mafia tw defend town df"... yeh buddy because mafia never defends town.

Oats has played enough games to know that comment is really stupid or he has been repeatedly stomped in the head since we last played.

Probably lynch between oats and TW tomorrow.
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KelsierSC
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November 20 2017 21:18 GMT
#645
i'm done for the night, don't expect any posts until D2 starts.

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KelsierSC
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November 21 2017 18:29 GMT
#781
Just about to go to the gym so going to bash out a few thoughts before day 2 starts.

Most importantly who I would want want to lynch tomorrow, TW, rux, conversion.

I don't even think TW needs explanation.

rux's reaction to me leaving and making a joke was super fake anger. , it just shows his weird focus and not really engaging in anything.

Haven't liked conversion all game, still don't.

I'm still undecided on darth I think he's likely town just from how others have interacted with him , like ruxxar said darth was bleeding town at a time where he wasn't bleeding town, just not being as bad as before. That felt like a bonus for df and a minus for rux.

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

I don't have many town, I like boson and Stan, I liked chez early on but that read was on tone mostly I like VE, VE said something this night phase which was pretty smart but I don't remember exactly what it was. Can't be asked to find the quote but i'll look it up later.

Damdred is sort of weird, I was kind of suspect on him , then when he didn't read me town in a situation where he should have made me call him mafia but he claimed vig, I read PR as mafia so maybe he's real.

Lastly palmar, hapa and koshi.

Palmar and koshi are playing sort of weird but they are both experienced players with a good range so I don't know what to do with them.
I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.

Then again at least one town voted on hf so some people are a little special.

As for me being "anti town" i'm probably the only player in the game who voted on mafia D1.

This isn't the most coherent piece so I will read and answer any relevant questions when I get back from working out





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KelsierSC
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November 21 2017 20:38 GMT
#820
why didn't you shoot?
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KelsierSC
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November 21 2017 20:53 GMT
#822
On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.

ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town.

That town read makes no sense.

I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred.

This hapa read is just straight up wrong.


I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine.

I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early.
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KelsierSC
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November 21 2017 21:24 GMT
#824
On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.

ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town.

That town read makes no sense.

I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred.

This hapa read is just straight up wrong.


I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine.

I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early.

Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth.

Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF?


I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said.

second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 21:32 GMT
#827
On November 22 2017 06:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.

ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town.

That town read makes no sense.

I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred.

This hapa read is just straight up wrong.


I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine.

I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early.

Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth.

Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF?


I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said.

second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team.

Hapa clearly didn't want to Lynch Darth after he posted that huge "ITS A TRAP" post, come on dude.

No, I want you to rationalize why I would switch onto holyflare at huge risk to myself considering what I said when the holyflare wagon was pretty dead if im mafia.


i don't understand you question at all. D1 you seemed genuine in your efforts to lynch df which seemed town to me.
Yes if you were mafia you would have a hard time justifying a switch onto hf i guess. but if you are town and you believe df is mafia you wouldn't switch so it's irrelevant.

Hapa said darth was scummy and voted him early D1 at a time i thought darth was scummy so i townread him for that. Around votes he acted weird so i'm unsure of that.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 21:38 GMT
#831
On November 22 2017 06:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 06:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.

ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town.

That town read makes no sense.

I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred.

This hapa read is just straight up wrong.


I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine.

I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early.

Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth.

Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF?


I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said.

second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team.

Hapa clearly didn't want to Lynch Darth after he posted that huge "ITS A TRAP" post, come on dude.

No, I want you to rationalize why I would switch onto holyflare at huge risk to myself considering what I said when the holyflare wagon was pretty dead if im mafia.


i don't understand you question at all. D1 you seemed genuine in your efforts to lynch df which seemed town to me.
Yes if you were mafia you would have a hard time justifying a switch onto hf i guess. but if you are town and you believe df is mafia you wouldn't switch so it's irrelevant.

Hapa said darth was scummy and voted him early D1 at a time i thought darth was scummy so i townread him for that. Around votes he acted weird so i'm unsure of that.

I want you to justify why I only stay on Darth if im town and I switch to holyflare if im mafia.

Hapa said that his read on Darth was a trap...............

You are still townreading him for it.


you just aren't reading my posts so there is no point
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 21:42 GMT
#834
On November 22 2017 06:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 06:32 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.

ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town.

That town read makes no sense.

I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred.

This hapa read is just straight up wrong.


I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine.

I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early.

Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth.

Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF?


I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said.

second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team.

Hapa clearly didn't want to Lynch Darth after he posted that huge "ITS A TRAP" post, come on dude.

No, I want you to rationalize why I would switch onto holyflare at huge risk to myself considering what I said when the holyflare wagon was pretty dead if im mafia.


i don't understand you question at all. D1 you seemed genuine in your efforts to lynch df which seemed town to me.
Yes if you were mafia you would have a hard time justifying a switch onto hf i guess. but if you are town and you believe df is mafia you wouldn't switch so it's irrelevant.

Hapa said darth was scummy and voted him early D1 at a time i thought darth was scummy so i townread him for that. Around votes he acted weird so i'm unsure of that.

I want you to justify why I only stay on Darth if im town and I switch to holyflare if im mafia.

Hapa said that his read on Darth was a trap...............

You are still townreading him for it.


Let me put this as simply as possible.

I thought you were genuine in your push on df so that made you town.

mafia oats can't justify a switch onto hf so wouldn't do it. town oats thinks df is mafia so wouldn't do it.Hence it is irrelevant to my read . I'm not going to rationalise some shit that I never even said.

other mafia players might switch onto hf to have a chance of removing a strong player from the game or maybe df is mafia. I'm not sure. But this doesn't apply to you.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 21:52 GMT
#837
On November 22 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
I'm not making shit up, that's what you said


right you stuck to your darth read.

it's more of a throwaway comment about the hf lynch being bad rather than some thought about "does mafia oats switch in this situation"

If that is the whole reason for this line of questioning you are a fucking imbecile.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 21:56 GMT
#838
damdred why didn't you shoot
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 22:01 GMT
#839
On November 22 2017 06:52 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
I'm not making shit up, that's what you said


right you stuck to your darth read.

it's more of a throwaway comment about the hf lynch being bad rather than some thought about "does mafia oats switch in this situation"

If that is the whole reason for this line of questioning you are a fucking imbecile.


That last bit was too mean , I apologise
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 22:05 GMT
#841
On November 22 2017 07:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 06:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
I'm not making shit up, that's what you said


right you stuck to your darth read.

it's more of a throwaway comment about the hf lynch being bad rather than some thought about "does mafia oats switch in this situation"

If that is the whole reason for this line of questioning you are a fucking imbecile.

The whole reason is that you think I'm townier for that which is bullshit.

And I want to Lynch you.


lol ok

like you seemed to genuinely believe your lynch target was mafia and that made you towny to me. Some bullshit about whether or not you could have switched to hf if you were mafia literally has nothing to do with it.

I can't tell if you are just being stupid or willfully ignoring my posts.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 22:08 GMT
#842
I don't care about anything until damdred talks about why he didn't shoot
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 22:08 GMT
#843
night
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 22:11 GMT
#845
On November 22 2017 07:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2017 07:05 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 07:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 22 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
I'm not making shit up, that's what you said


right you stuck to your darth read.

it's more of a throwaway comment about the hf lynch being bad rather than some thought about "does mafia oats switch in this situation"

If that is the whole reason for this line of questioning you are a fucking imbecile.

The whole reason is that you think I'm townier for that which is bullshit.

And I want to Lynch you.


lol ok

like you seemed to genuinely believe your lynch target was mafia and that made you towny to me. Some bullshit about whether or not you could have switched to hf if you were mafia literally has nothing to do with it.

I can't tell if you are just being stupid or willfully ignoring my posts.




Saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it true.

What do you think now that I've seemingly dropped him like he's radioactive?


At ths point you are incurably stupid or mafia so I don't give a fuck
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 21 2017 22:25 GMT
#847
Meh this just seems like a giant waste of life.

Voted Tumblewood

Cya
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 22 2017 21:08 GMT
#911
On November 23 2017 05:44 Damdred wrote:
I am a biy busy with thanksgiving prep but will catch up in just a little bit.

Rux post is interesting just at a glance but it feels halfway unnatural coming from him. It rraly is missing some of the spark/pep that goes along sith what he normally posts. It worries me a little especially him not paying attention to the stan/koshi thing.

I do tgink hapa is someone who I would vote today. But stan is also in that boat.

Also this whole thing about me being vig has probably need to stop. I thought I was clear when I said I havent had a gun in like two years, but my post to palmar was just a jest and trying to strong arm him i to voting stan.

But in either case back to prep work ill check i shortly


probably be easier if you just said you weren't the vigi much earlier or never claimed it but w/e

Back from Martial Arts so going to put a few thoughts out, I haven't really focused to much on this day if im honest so i'll probably have a read before I go to the gym tomorrow and solidify my vote then.

I think one of damdred or rux is mafia, at the moment favoring rux as mafia,he focuses on such irrelevant stuff . Then again damdred not reading me as town was weird and there was something else about the hf case being appealing when it wasn't. He just hasn't felt like a real presence in the thread I suppose.

TW is still the best lynch today.

the thing I remember most recently is my conversation with oats. I was really annoyed that he didn't understand what I was saying even when I made it clear and I had him as town so if a town read is misreading you it is irritating. More I think about the fact that even after I explained it he still votes me and calls me scum, like that is pretty bad I don't believe anyone is that unintelligent. It felt he was trying to bury me with some inane shit. I'm pretty much in the middle with this guy but i wouldn't lynch him today and try to get more info later

hapa I can't really confess to reading much of what's been posted about him recently.

I'd love a TW lynch, i'd back a conversion,rux or damdred lynch. Only person i'd vote outside of that is if one of my hard town reads is the other wagon then i'll vote to save them.









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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 22 2017 21:18 GMT
#914
On November 23 2017 06:16 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2017 06:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 23 2017 05:44 Damdred wrote:
I am a biy busy with thanksgiving prep but will catch up in just a little bit.

Rux post is interesting just at a glance but it feels halfway unnatural coming from him. It rraly is missing some of the spark/pep that goes along sith what he normally posts. It worries me a little especially him not paying attention to the stan/koshi thing.

I do tgink hapa is someone who I would vote today. But stan is also in that boat.

Also this whole thing about me being vig has probably need to stop. I thought I was clear when I said I havent had a gun in like two years, but my post to palmar was just a jest and trying to strong arm him i to voting stan.

But in either case back to prep work ill check i shortly


probably be easier if you just said you weren't the vigi much earlier or never claimed it but w/e

Back from Martial Arts so going to put a few thoughts out, I haven't really focused to much on this day if im honest so i'll probably have a read before I go to the gym tomorrow and solidify my vote then.

I think one of damdred or rux is mafia, at the moment favoring rux as mafia,he focuses on such irrelevant stuff . Then again damdred not reading me as town was weird and there was something else about the hf case being appealing when it wasn't. He just hasn't felt like a real presence in the thread I suppose.

TW is still the best lynch today.

the thing I remember most recently is my conversation with oats. I was really annoyed that he didn't understand what I was saying even when I made it clear and I had him as town so if a town read is misreading you it is irritating. More I think about the fact that even after I explained it he still votes me and calls me scum, like that is pretty bad I don't believe anyone is that unintelligent. It felt he was trying to bury me with some inane shit. I'm pretty much in the middle with this guy but i wouldn't lynch him today and try to get more info later

hapa I can't really confess to reading much of what's been posted about him recently.

I'd love a TW lynch, i'd back a conversion,rux or damdred lynch. Only person i'd vote outside of that is if one of my hard town reads is the other wagon then i'll vote to save them.











What do you think of this Hapa push by VE and others?


haven't read it, i like the people on the vote though.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 23 2017 18:34 GMT
#974
I'm tired from work and want to hit the gym, going to miss deadline.

I haven't really read this day but i'll catch up over the weekend.

I like a lot of the votes on hapa, damdred and conversion jumping on it late is kind of funny to me, seems like about the right time to try and get some town cred if he flips mafia.

I'm just going to leave my vote where it is so you all know who I think is likely mafia and, if hapa flips town, I don't get obnoxious questions about why I voted on hapa with people who I think are mafia and other such boring conversations.

I'm not a power role so if you want to shenanigan onto me then no big deal.

I've been pretty useless D2 but work is busy and martial arts/gym takes up too much time =)
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 23 2017 21:03 GMT
#995
man you guys really screwed up, like even worse than before.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 23 2017 21:06 GMT
#999
On November 24 2017 06:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2017 06:03 KelsierSC wrote:
man you guys really screwed up, like even worse than before.


I'm getting real tired of your attitude.


it's a joke buddy, just chill
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 24 2017 12:44 GMT
#1065
Going to be super busy but I will try and take an hour on Saturday to read D2
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 24 2017 21:22 GMT
#1100
i'm not the vig,

I might have given it away when yesterday i explicitly said I wasn't a power role but maybe that was too subtle.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 25 2017 20:11 GMT
#1113
Lol idgaf

Lynch rux.

Anyone 2bj
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 25 2017 20:11 GMT
#1114
Anyone who gives a shit right now is mafia
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 25 2017 21:48 GMT
#1116
Like rilux etc Damdred and ic9ngerie
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 27 2017 16:24 GMT
#1191
I was busy, couldn't vote.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 27 2017 18:10 GMT
#1194
On November 28 2017 01:56 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2017 01:24 KelsierSC wrote:
I was busy, couldn't vote.



any new thoughts on the game?


not really
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 27 2017 18:10 GMT
#1195
I shouldn't have played, just way too busy and then when it got to the weekend had things to catch up on because my week was so hectic.
Apologies to all,
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 28 2017 18:06 GMT
#1260
seems unkind.

probly guna vote tumble
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 29 2017 19:26 GMT
#1294
got to keep it consistent

##Vote: Tumblewood
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 29 2017 21:39 GMT
#1320
lol , didn't really play after D1, just too busy for stuff like mafia anymore.

Bit of a shame I used to enjoy it when I had free time.
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