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On November 15 2017 07:06 Damdred wrote: /obs i guess  play! just vote and afk all game | ||
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On November 16 2017 05:15 Damdred wrote: /in rux told me to since i just sit around the house atm. yay  | ||
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On November 18 2017 06:43 Fecalfeast wrote: 😣 I'll /in again if things go well, but something came up so I don't want to run the risk of being modkilled | ||
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sorry for that FF. things are good tho | ||
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On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote: I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me. Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers I don't see anything damdred has done that warrants him lynchable, so I don't really get anything from him You're allowed to dislike whatever you want, my friend. | ||
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On November 19 2017 11:49 Chezinu wrote: Honesty on the deeper matters. The last remark. How does that help with cconversion? Also, how long have you two been friends? I've never met this z-boson guy. I don't know what you're trying to say with your first question On November 19 2017 11:51 Chezinu wrote: Is this good, bad, or neutral? This surprise.. or do you even know? Are you just taking notes? neutral. dude might be busy, but his start is definitely one of the most consistent things, and he's not doing it this game so just taking notes | ||
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On November 20 2017 00:17 darthfoley wrote: @Oats and @Conversion, What are you thinking of this game so far? A decent amount of activity to base stuff off of Also would appreciate someone translating Petrov's posts cuz I have no idea where he's going with anything he says I like Boson. and ruxxar I Guess Kelsier seems like a lot of filler. me pointing something out, asking questions, then not doing anything isn't really much to go off of. you could have pressured me there. also post on TW was inconclusive. I'd be okay with voting him rn. Oats not doing anything is still p. fishy, but half the game hasn't posted yet, so hopefully. probably NAI. | ||
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On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote: Good Morning, Giving some thoughts on this early game. Boson seems town , I feel like he is trying to perform keyhole surgery with a chainsaw but I appreciate the effort. I have played games with Chez before , it was a long time ago but he feels active and like he wants to play so i'm leaning town on him. I also liked how he pinged out conversion, who I don't really like, and then line he took with that. With Conversion it felt like he just made some random questions/comments , didn't get any answer and retreated away. He asked why stan was mafia and don't know if he got a response. Then some weird comment about oats but said it was neutral. and just how he responded to questions, can't put my finger on why I didn't like them but not a big fan. Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me. can you do some real legwork if you're going to think I'm suspicious? same thing with the TW post, you just kind of make a lazy read and back off. which is similar to what you're criticizing me for | ||
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On November 20 2017 00:17 darthfoley wrote: @Oats and @Conversion, What are you thinking of this game so far? A decent amount of activity to base stuff off of Also would appreciate someone translating Petrov's posts cuz I have no idea where he's going with anything he says also do you mean Chezinu, because I have no idea either. Petrov seems pretty straightforward | ||
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On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote: Chez Boson Rux is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle. Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet? Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order. I forgot you existed. that's no bueno. I never forget you exist. | ||
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On November 20 2017 01:19 Holyflare wrote: How can you forget damdred existed? He posted almost the most early game and had a good ruxx read. that’s why I said it was no good? useless post | ||
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On November 20 2017 05:37 Oatsmaster wrote: It's almost 24 hours and you don't really have any reads?!? Why HF and TW? Over like conversion is there a reason you don't like me/think I'm scummy? | ||
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kelsey pointed out something I was going to which is cool: stan comes in randomly, votes darth who isn’t on his filter at all nor is in his lynch list, and then afks again my vote off. taking my vote to stan. goodnight friends | ||
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On November 21 2017 00:57 KelsierSC wrote: I'm probably going to not be around at deadline as it conflicts with my gym schedule but I'll give where i'm at right now and come to a decision before I leave The group i'd want to lynch out of would be . df,tumble,stan,conversion,oats and ruxxar. I'm not going to consider anyone else for D1, so you have a lynch list of 1/3 of the game. also you want to lynch me for some reason when you had a good amount of time to call me scum lazy lazy lazy | ||
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On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote: Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately  Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association. Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho! also, trying not to make friends? he has like 5 posts and you're trying to do some deeep reading that I'm not seeing from reading his filter. then all of a sudden you don't like me even though I'm clearing pressuring someone who's play looks scummy? wtf lol | ||
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On November 21 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote: I need you to show how this is true from stans filter | ||
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On November 20 2017 03:51 KelsierSC wrote: Darth and Ruxxar are probably worth taking a look at. The feeling I get from rux is that he is asking people to justify or explain things that aren't that difficult to comprehend. It felt like he trying to give the illusion of activity. This followed up by asking me to explain a feeling read, I don't know how you can explain feelings. Then again I really didn't like anything darth posted and it felt like he was just trying to mimic thread opinion and almost try and pocket rux. darth perhaps you can explain why I have to give a full explanation for my TW read which you don't think I have enough basis for, but you can also read TW as scummy. I probably have darth as my top lynch. I doubt that mafia darth would link up with mafia rux that hard so perhaps rux is ok I just don't think his questions are that useful. can I ask you why you have darth as your top lynch at this point in time, yet you wouldn't vote to pressure him? | ||
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probably amounts to nothing, but I don't like it | ||
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On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote: I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me. Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers to this: On November 20 2017 08:53 Stanislav Petrov wrote: ##Vote: darthfoley On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote: You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him. | ||
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On November 21 2017 02:26 KelsierSC wrote: ruxxar and conversion both seem scummy to me . I don't know if they are trying to get a wagon off df for cred or trying to save a partner. Either way it probably makes Stan town. I'm not scum, so stop wasting your breath | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:04 Oatsmaster wrote: I wanted to Lynch Petrov but you started posting and he's voting for you so yeah let me try to understand this, oats 1) you wanted to lynch Petrov 2) DF posted, he looked scummier, so you then switched to DF 3) Petrov is voting DF, so adds to the reason why you switched to DF is that correct? | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:27 Damdred wrote: Darth is town though I believe, so nope I think Stan is a good place for me. We can talk kel tonight if you make it df. I'll join in on this discussion if you allow me | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote: Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case dunno hf just generally seems very not-give-a-fuck and bored about mafia lately, so I don't think it's a particularly good case. didn't read into it too deeply/check HF's filter because I want stan lynched today | ||
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Disconnect between his lynch list at one point (Damdred->Kels->Lurkers), randomly enters thread voting largest wagon in DF. When asked several times by everyone in the thread why this logical jump happened, he gave an excuse why he wasn't here and then tried to deflect onto me and someone else. then finally gave his reasons why DF was scum finally gives his reasons, but most of them aren't very good reasons to read DF as scum. looks to be flailing around trying to justify his AFK vote now On November 21 2017 02:43 Stanislav Petrov wrote: Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace. Why I think darthfoley is mafia. 1)There was the Boson contradiction 2)His only reads are town 3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves) The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts. 4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate. | ||
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On November 21 2017 04:56 Palmar wrote: This all sounds like clueless town. But I have nothing to back that up as I haven’t read a single post of his. Mafia people are generally too careful to fuck up that much I want to believe this, but last game we had random double mafia bus that we found out was a big mistake on someone's end (was supposed to vote a townie, but ended up voting his godfather off) | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:00 Tumblewood wrote: nah, i don't believe palmar comes back to the thread an hour before deadline and conversion is the guy he sheeps dw he's already not sheeping me. no one should sheep me | ||
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On November 21 2017 05:09 Damdred wrote: I would switch to hf, the case is decent and i want to save df. this is what I was gonna say | ||
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sorry HF | ||
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On November 21 2017 07:20 Z-BosoN wrote: @Conversion Two questions for you. You spent a good deal of time on Stan. It's like, he can't possibly have done that post if he was town? I find your certainty troubling. Why exactly did you think HF was town? I don't recall you ever speaking to him or about him. You had no comments to defend someone you did not want to lynch. If I find scum, I will focus on him. I deferred to Palmar since he's probably a better player than me. I didn't want to lynch anyone else because I wanted to lynch stan I had not a lot of good information on HF and didn't think he was a good lynch? I wasn't defending him, I was saying Stan > HF. also that quoted post came after the flip, so why are you trying to make it seem I knew HF was town? | ||
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by your logic your certainty on HF is troubling as well, and you should be reading yourself as scum. but that's not going to happen | ||
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[QUOTE]On November 21 2017 07:39 Conversion wrote: [QUOTE]On November 21 2017 07:20 Z-BosoN wrote: @Conversion Two questions for you. [QUOTE]On November 21 2017 03:14 Conversion wrote: I've never defended Stan, nor will I back down from it.[/QUOTE] You spent a good deal of time on Stan. It's like, he can't possibly have done that post if he was town? I find your certainty troubling. [QUOTE]On November 21 2017 05:33 Conversion wrote: well I wanted DF alive and stan lynched, so I got one of those things sorry HF[/QUOTE] Why exactly did you think HF was town? I don't recall you ever speaking to him or about him. You had no comments to defend someone you did not want to lynch.[/QUOTE] If I find scum, I will focus on him. I deferred to Palmar since he's probably a better player than me. I didn't want to lynch anyone else because I wanted to lynch stan I had not a lot of good information on HF and didn't think he was a good lynch? I wasn't defending him, I was saying Stan > HF. also that quoted post came after the flip, so why are you trying to make it seem I knew HF was town?[/QUOTE] You kinda like, apologized to him. Are you two buds or something? Not trying to make it seem like anything, but that kinda dimmed my town view on you.[/QUOTE] wut? I apologized in a previous mafia game when I lynched ruxxar and he flipped town. and I was town. if you're going to "dim" your town view on me, do it based on my play and not this weird "you apologized so you're more scummy now" nonsense | ||
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On November 21 2017 07:47 Conversion wrote: wut? I apologized in a previous mafia game when I lynched ruxxar and he flipped town. and I was town. if you're going to "dim" your town view on me, do it based on my play and not this weird "you apologized so you're more scummy now" nonsense EBWOP. god damn tags | ||
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On November 21 2017 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote: Oh I sure as fuck wasn't certain, but I felt he was a MUCH better lynch than the other two. But I would never go ahead and say "Nothing will ever make me back down from him". That's just.... ugh Certainty is troubling because scum is certain by nature whereas town isn't. It does not matter what the alignment to which the scum is "certain" off is. and why the does it matter if I said it or not, considering I did back down? so now you're trying to tag me as scum for being so certain, but you're ignoring that fact that I did eventually back down does that not make me town according to your logic? | ||
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On November 21 2017 07:50 Z-BosoN wrote: Getting defensive are we? Am I on to something? Who are you sus of now that he has flipped? I'm getting defensive because you're being inane and asking retarded questions I'm gonna go cool off before I start being a little whiny bitch again | ||
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On November 21 2017 07:50 Conversion wrote: and why the does it matter if I said it or not, considering I did back down? so now you're trying to tag me as scum for being so certain, but you're ignoring that fact that I did eventually back down does that not make me town according to your logic? | ||
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you're probably town because mafia can't be as dumb as you tbh | ||
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see ya later | ||
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work was pissing me off and I should have just calmed down before posting going to catch up now | ||
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On November 21 2017 08:54 Oatsmaster wrote: What part of "I wanna know why conversion thought palmar was town is difficult to understand? I don't want to hear your speculation lol I wanted df more alive than I wanted stan dead that’s all. I wasn’t willing to budge unless other people were | ||
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On November 22 2017 01:55 Damdred wrote: well lets let him respond to us, So what do you think of kel df (pssst conversion) We should probably pressure Kelsier to not play so anti-town. Not going to rehash the case, but OMGUS deflection, voting off wagon and going AFK and telling town not to screw up, focusing on town "screwing up" instead of doing anything then AFKing again is horrible town play. his "lynch between oats and tw" without any follow up (especially when oats picked up the pace) is just super bad town, if not scum. how about you? | ||
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idk man. my gut says annoying town player | ||
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also you're going to need a better case than "I don't like someone" to convince other people that I'm scum.. like I have enough of a filter you can build a case against me, but you want to be lazy and go "I don't like him" as scum for 3 posts in a row now | ||
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On November 22 2017 04:42 Oatsmaster wrote: @Conversion, why did you assume palmar was town I didn't assume he was town. it was a bad move to just sheep him and I Should have convinced people to stay on stan said this earlier | ||
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On November 22 2017 05:10 Oatsmaster wrote: The wording here is pretty specific though, you deferred to palmar because he's a better player which already assumes he's town. Like you don't sheep someone you don't think is town. That's ridiculous I sheeped HF the entire game in CCCP and wasn't sure if he was town all game. your mistake here is that you're expecting me to operate at a certain level of proficiency at mafia that I guarantee you I don't meet | ||
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no posterinos though | ||
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On November 22 2017 00:48 Stanislav Petrov wrote: Hapahauli. I liked his initial call-out on darthfoley. But his next thing with the test is mindbogglingly weird from a town perspective and feels a lot like a feign bus. He makes a case against me which is full of contradictions and incorrect conclusions (I'll explain how if you don't understand). I didn't call it out immediately because I thought he was baiting to see who would jump aboard something that on a glance looked like an okey case but if you took 2 minutes you'd see it was bullshit. After learning I wasn't a beginner he dropped the case like a stone and parked himself on the holyflare wagon again based on a fairly weak case and wasn't heard from again. | ||
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I really dislike Kels' attitude, but I'm finding it hard-pressed to call it scummy. will dive filters later and build a case on someone that's not stan/kels as I'm tunneling a bit much and not getting a great overall picture | ||
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On November 22 2017 07:08 KelsierSC wrote: I don't care about anything until damdred talks about why he didn't shoot On November 22 2017 07:11 KelsierSC wrote: At ths point you are incurably stupid or mafia so I don't give a fuck On November 22 2017 07:25 KelsierSC wrote: Meh this just seems like a giant waste of life. Voted Tumblewood Cya Shit like that. IDK. I feel like scum could just AFK without making these useless, hostile statements? | ||
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that doesn't seem town. seems like a scum move to get rid of a strong town in the way that he jumped-- the stan wagon was way stronger than the HF one when he jumped | ||
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I’ll sheep mr. VE | ||
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On November 24 2017 03:34 KelsierSC wrote: I'm tired from work and want to hit the gym, going to miss deadline. I haven't really read this day but i'll catch up over the weekend. I like a lot of the votes on hapa, damdred and conversion jumping on it late is kind of funny to me, seems like about the right time to try and get some town cred if he flips mafia. I'm just going to leave my vote where it is so you all know who I think is likely mafia and, if hapa flips town, I don't get obnoxious questions about why I voted on hapa with people who I think are mafia and other such boring conversations. I'm not a power role so if you want to shenanigan onto me then no big deal. I've been pretty useless D2 but work is busy and martial arts/gym takes up too much time =) yeah because why would I just kill my partner instead of being active and driving people away from a mafia lynch.. keep trying to fit that square peg into the circle hole, though, and paint me as mafia while you vote off wagon every time | ||
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On November 24 2017 06:31 Oatsmaster wrote: you arent upset at palmar for being absolutely wrong twice? thats weird On November 24 2017 06:23 Conversion wrote: my unrefined thoughts ATM is scum team consists of VE/Palmar, and someone in darthfoley/koshi/damdred c'mon oats I know you don't like me but don't ignore me | ||
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On November 24 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Why is palmar being wrong means hes scum? Same for VE? wut I just think there has to be a scum between them. I could also be wrong | ||
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On November 24 2017 06:56 darthfoley wrote: Tbf I don't remember you doing anything memorable. I haven't been just defensive. I just get demotivated when no one wants to hear what I have to say and assholes like Palmar arbitrarily decide that they can single handedly lead Town to the promise land of going 0/2. Random Palmar/VE wrong power couple and people still want to throw shade my way. I tried to make Stan and Koshi a D2 thing and no one wanted any part. It's also Thanksgiving and my dad is in the hospital so my gameplay has probably suffered. I will agree that Damdred has kinda fallen off the radar (similar to Stan) and so I will filter him soon I never do anything memorable, also that wasn't a post you really needed to defend yourself against though buddy. I just let too many ppl coast this game including you is more of the point of that post. | ||
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On November 24 2017 07:15 Oatsmaster wrote: kel mafia, damdred mafia, VE mafia, conversion mafia lynch me good sir my apathy has peaked | ||
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because of the fact that town is being led by their noses by these two people, being wrong or not, rubs me the wrong way I wish you the best in pushing my lynch tomorrow, good knight! | ||
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On November 24 2017 07:15 Oatsmaster wrote: kel mafia, damdred mafia, VE mafia, conversion mafia I reserve the right to laugh at you post game if 4/4 of this list is town | ||
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I've bitched before in this game, and you're right. that was me being a diva and being awful. I'm much more chill right now | ||
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lynch-wise for D3 I'd have to try and actually analyze the NK, and hopefully it'll give us some legit info. I still think we shouldn't be bothering with inactives/barely actives. so this in my head rules out Koshi.. not sure who else falls under this case besides koshi/chez/stan I still think there exists a scum in between VE/Palmar. z-boson thought so as well. maybe they'll prove me wrong D3 ruxxar is probably town. TW seems alright to me. so maybe somewhere in Kels/DF/whoever I'm missing as lynch targets? | ||
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this is the bad mafia player's folly | ||
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On November 24 2017 07:56 Conversion wrote: problem is I'm stuck in this mode where I don't really have overwhelming town reads on people, but no overwhelming scum reads either. this is the bad mafia player's folly basically this. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. forgot it's T-giving day | ||
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agreed on lynching mafia. we've missed 2 now, and that's no good. who are your top bets Palmar? irregardless of flip | ||
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On November 25 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote: i apologize for being a dick but irregardless is not a real word it's fine. I just woke up | ||
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On November 27 2017 05:24 darthfoley wrote: Fine. Idk why i'm even helping the town at this point considering we're doing our best to throw. I watched Chez visit Oats last night. I'm watcher; he's serial killer. We should lynch Chez I'm sheeping this right now. no time to do much else | ||
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jist of it is Palmar needs to be lynched for randomly jumping onto df without reading the most inactive day ever, when the claim was up there long enough for people to read that leaves us with Palmar/???/??? Stan looks bad for trying to paint Palmar and DF togethre as scum after DF, but idk if that makes him scum. if it does, that's Palmar/Stan/ +1 or 2 hmm | ||
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On November 28 2017 01:24 KelsierSC wrote: I was busy, couldn't vote. any new thoughts on the game? | ||
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my town pool is probably like damdred/ruxxar maybe koshi which leaves palmar/stan/kels/tw in my head as scum tw's filter looks nonscummy to me, reading it a few times. tbh not much content to work with for most of my non-town group who's around after flip? | ||
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honestly the 3 people I don't like the most are Palmar/Stan/Kels, but I doubt that's the scum team there. who knows | ||
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On November 28 2017 05:22 Damdred wrote: df who did you watch before today? just for the record I'd like to know too, but he might not be here. | ||
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On November 27 2017 05:24 darthfoley wrote: Fine. Idk why i'm even helping the town at this point considering we're doing our best to throw. I watched Chez visit Oats last night. I'm watcher; he's serial killer. We should lynch Chez | ||
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my question is how does watcher work? do you get to see the alignment of the person, or just visitations? | ||
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where is everyone else | ||
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On November 28 2017 04:37 ruXxar wrote: DF is clearly town unless CCd. I dont think town has another power role, so if someone else was to claim his alignment would come into question. Also I dont think palmar is scum. Which leaves me at koshi/tw/stan/kelsier. any thoughts on koshi's recent post? | ||
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Darthfoley: (2) Stanislav Petrov, Chezinu, Koshi Stanislav Petrov: (1) Darthfoley, Tumblewood Chezinu: (4) Koshi, darthfoley, conversion, ruxxar Palmar: (0) Darthfoley Not Voting: Palmar, KelsierSC, Damdred if we're going by that logic that mafia at least cares enough to vote, the likelihood of hitting mafia is much higher in voting counts, so let's ignore Palmar and Kels right now so we have DF who is our watcher, and I'm town. That leaves us in a pool of ruxxar/koshi/tw/stan assuming at least 1 mafia did not vote (unless it's the case of both Palmar and Kels being mafia, then fuck me lol), we have a 50% chance if we close our eyes, spin around 10 times, and pick a name. so people, if you're town I need you to act town so we narrow down our choices. vote-wagon wise we don't get a lot of info bc mafia don't care if they pile on chezinu lol so idk. I need to think more. I'm not making a lot of sense | ||
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On November 28 2017 05:47 Conversion wrote: let's lynch stan so I can be validated/shamed based on his flip. and possibly lose whocares | ||
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if kels/palmar are town, they give very little shits and everyone else literally doesn't give a shit sooo o o oOoO | ||
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On November 29 2017 04:55 darthfoley wrote: I feel like it's unfair to consider Palmar a non-voter. He tried his best to get a vote in at the deadline and failed. Simplest solution is probably Palmar/Stan/TW? Their interactions this game have been pretty suspect across the board yeah which solidifies my theory that scum tried to be "active" by voting. like why risk getting MK'd and not putting town in MyLO | ||
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On November 29 2017 04:56 darthfoley wrote: Like with Palmar vote, it's 4-3 Chez-Me. I guess mafia could try to pile on SK, but what sense does that make? Doesn't mafia want more NKs to reduce amount of lynches needed? cause Chez living or dying doesn't change the game outcome, unless we no lynch. which I'm not sure is allowed this game | ||
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Town can not vote for a no lynch. | ||
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but I feel like mafia would just afk, and aside from that I'm not confident in seeing scum in Kels, but who knows | ||
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On November 29 2017 06:39 Palmar wrote: Like I still stand by my initial thing that stan sounds more like a clueless newbie than scum. On November 21 2017 03:02 Stanislav Petrov wrote: I'm a smurf who've played around 50 games. I thought your case on me was a trap to see who would follow so I didn't say anything but with you asking this you appear serious. You should take a step back, look at your own contradictions and overall think on it for more then 5 seconds. | ||
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popcorn all the way until lynch choo choo | ||
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On November 30 2017 05:37 darthfoley wrote: this question should have destroyed my claim. i can't believe I made it through it yeah if even one town person like told me how watcher worked I would have autoo lynched you :/blah. still didn't get any scum so not like I played particularly well | ||
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On November 28 2017 09:35 Conversion wrote: ruxxar/koshi/ +1? if litearlly anyone just talked to me I would have solidified it but I Just doubted myself and let it slip away atrghh | ||
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