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On November 20 2017 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBoson I find darth scummy. Of particular note there was a sequence where he called you town and then immediately was like "I still want ZBoson to explain this completely trivial matter though." in case anyone else found you scummy. WHAT SAY YOU?!?!
I found it scummy as fuck, but it looks like it is TOO scummy knowwhatimsayin?
Uncertain as fuck though. I’d rather lynch a more quiet fellow
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On November 20 2017 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBoson I find darth scummy. Of particular note there was a sequence where he called you town and then immediately was like "I still want ZBoson to explain this completely trivial matter though." in case anyone else found you scummy. WHAT SAY YOU?!?! I found it scummy as fuck, but it looks like it is TOO scummy knowwhatimsayin? Uncertain as fuck though. I’d rather lynch a more quiet fellow Who?
Dunno man, I’m just Q&A here atm, on phone.
Holyflare and tumbleweed are very tempting.
Stan .... maybe. He just posted when I was randomly accusing him and was yet to be seen.
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On November 20 2017 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 05:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is hapa scummy for not posting?!?! Not sure of his most recent meta, but from my own personal experience, Hapa used to tryhard at first and then throttle down as his theories started to prove false. Much like my own meta. Hence, early activity has historically proven to be a decent indicator of alignment. Again, this could be outdated.
Speaking of outdated, I have his 2012 meta in mind, but I don’t think it points either way. He was involved as fuck always and now he is not.
That’s a non-read in terms of activity specially considering he said he was gonna be less active.
It’s just that darthfoley is the easiest case possible. I feel bothered by this.
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Anyways not touching Hapa for now. Just wanted to convey frustration
Can we lynch holyflare then? Please?
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On November 20 2017 05:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 05:24 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 20 2017 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBoson I find darth scummy. Of particular note there was a sequence where he called you town and then immediately was like "I still want ZBoson to explain this completely trivial matter though." in case anyone else found you scummy. WHAT SAY YOU?!?! I found it scummy as fuck, but it looks like it is TOO scummy knowwhatimsayin? Uncertain as fuck though. I’d rather lynch a more quiet fellow Who? Dunno man, I’m just Q&A here atm, on phone. Holyflare and tumbleweed are very tempting. Stan .... maybe. He just posted when I was randomly accusing him and was yet to be seen. It's almost 24 hours and you don't really have any reads?!? Why HF and TW? Over like conversion
This may sound hypocritical coming from "the questioner", but Oatsmaster, are you like the fucking police or something? Your filter is filled with questions with no real followups. You sheep darth accusations yet prod me for reads in this strange manner.
Are you ok there man? I'm getting strange vibes from you.
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On November 20 2017 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
Even if that's the case I still find your reads highly questionable. I feel like you've double justified ruxxar town for no reason. You state you believe the damdred read on him but then you try and over justify it by adding that "he's pushing like usual" which I find extremely unsatisfactory because he's not pushing things that make sense in the slightest.
Then the hapa post which shows you reading a guy probably town but asking for a justification on his posts straight afterward which is questionable as hell.
You'll likely defend with "but I must question things that don't make sense!" but that's not a defence in this situation. You got the posts reversed. It should be ask question into response into he's probably town.
I like that you picked up your activity. Let's step back from darthfoley for a little bit. You mentioned Ruxxar was worth looking at but I've seen no further comment from you regarding him. Do you agree with the town reads he's being given in this thread?
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KelsierSC, thanks for being town.
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On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:##Unvote Darthfoley##Vote Sanislav PetrovDarthfoley was a test. Stanislav Petrov failed. Holyflare failed. Tumblewood gets a D-. Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of... Show nested quote +On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately  Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association. Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho! If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along. Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests. Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on. Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick. I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me. Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers ... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley: Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care? You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him. ...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley. Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.
Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.
On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.
So, heuristically I think that Stan would have been less all-over-the-place if he was mafia. He seems like a newer player not sure where to move next. I'd place him in the same category as TW: kinda mafia looking, kinda lynch-baity looking.
Holyflare has done little but tunnel darthfoley, who was already leading in votes. I'm not sure what the townie motivation there is there. He looks a lot more scummy in his defensiveness to my eyes.
I would also be down for an oatsmaster lynch. Please look at his filter and agree.
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On November 20 2017 18:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 13:16 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 05:37 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 20 2017 05:24 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 05:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 20 2017 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBoson I find darth scummy. Of particular note there was a sequence where he called you town and then immediately was like "I still want ZBoson to explain this completely trivial matter though." in case anyone else found you scummy. WHAT SAY YOU?!?! I found it scummy as fuck, but it looks like it is TOO scummy knowwhatimsayin? Uncertain as fuck though. I’d rather lynch a more quiet fellow Who? Dunno man, I’m just Q&A here atm, on phone. Holyflare and tumbleweed are very tempting. Stan .... maybe. He just posted when I was randomly accusing him and was yet to be seen. It's almost 24 hours and you don't really have any reads?!? Why HF and TW? Over like conversion This may sound hypocritical coming from "the questioner", but Oatsmaster, are you like the fucking police or something? Your filter is filled with questions with no real followups. You sheep darth accusations yet prod me for reads in this strange manner. Are you ok there man? I'm getting strange vibes from you. answer the damn question dude
Um, I have my own reads, some of which are very in my filter. More on HF shortly.
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On November 21 2017 02:59 darthfoley wrote:
Basically people are defending Stan for being all over the place, yet the big accusation against me is that I was "all over the place" once with one question about my first town read 6 hours into D1.
LoL
Umm... Im the only one that said Stan is being all over the place. Im also not happy with lynching you... so....
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well he has 50 games.
ok so he's just a black box to me then.
On November 21 2017 03:05 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 03:02 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 21 2017 02:59 darthfoley wrote:
Basically people are defending Stan for being all over the place, yet the big accusation against me is that I was "all over the place" once with one question about my first town read 6 hours into D1.
LoL Umm... Im the only one that said Stan is being all over the place. Im also not happy with lynching you... so.... Conversion and a couple others have said similar things iirc
I see. And do you agree with that pseudo-defense?
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On November 20 2017 09:06 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Even though the df wagon looks super fast growing and not much defence against him or whatever I also think it's a good wagon. Even for the points hapa brought up but also because he just throws out free town reads for really random posts like Chezinu's posts etc. Why do you include this baloni qualifier at the beginning? If you like the wagon why are you also pointing out how it's quickly growing with no defense for me? Hedge master supreme
Weird-ass post.
On November 20 2017 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
And there's the things you pick out. You ask zboson, your town read, why he does such a weird pick mafia out of three thing but then when someone else asks what you think about lynching me/tw etc you don't give a shit about them asking that.
And you dislike kelsier's jarring comment which isn't particularly hard to fathom what he means at all. If he's mafia he's lying that something was jarring or what? What's your thought process behind him making that comment as mafia?
Repeating previous arguments against DF for non-understandabe reasons.
On November 21 2017 00:26 Holyflare wrote:Weird comment
Talking about Damdred. Doesnt like that someone wants to lynch damdred with that line of thought but... just a few posts before:
On November 20 2017 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
Fwiw I think damdred could be mafia with an increasing probability
So someone accuses a person that you think is mafia with "increasing probability" for some reason, and instead of trying to dissect the other argument to support and push it, he just says "weird comment"? What the fuckshit?
Aside from that strange blooper, he does some to push Damdred on a strange read:
On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux
is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.
Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?
Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.
Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of. Rux is... ? Is this a meta read? As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary. You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.
Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me.
So he is sus of Damdred for being sus of a person that he disagrees "doesn't seem to have much in the way of motives" (i.e. he also doesnt like ruxxar)
He then continue to get some crappy "damdred sais ruxx is having fun, which is THE OPPOSITE of how I view him"
Holyflare has just started being active after he felt some pressure. He is inconsistent in his reads and follow ups of damdred/ruxx. He has all but tunneled df mindlessly without adding much. Can we please murder him?
##Vote HF
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EBWOP: the first "weirdass post" refers to HFnested quote, not df
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On November 21 2017 02:56 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 02:52 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:##Unvote Darthfoley##Vote Sanislav PetrovDarthfoley was a test. Stanislav Petrov failed. Holyflare failed. Tumblewood gets a D-. Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of... On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association. Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho! If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along. Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests. Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on. Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick. I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me. Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers ... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley: On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care? You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him. ...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley. On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.
Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.
On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you. So, heuristically I think that Stan would have been less all-over-the-place if he was mafia. He seems like a newer player not sure where to move next. I'd place him in the same category as TW: kinda mafia looking, kinda lynch-baity looking. Holyflare has done little but tunnel darthfoley, who was already leading in votes. I'm not sure what the townie motivation there is there. He looks a lot more scummy in his defensiveness to my eyes. I would also be down for an oatsmaster lynch. Please look at his filter and agree. Oats is behaving like oats. It's been a while since I've played with him, but all his games are pretty one-linery-ish, incoherent, spammy, etc. What specifically about him is damning?
From a general sense I just don't ike how he does not seem to be actually scum hunting. Seems more like hes just trying to get that appearance off.
What does a scum oats look like? Dont answer that, actually, but keep that in mind for later.
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On November 21 2017 03:54 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 03:40 Damdred wrote:
Focus ruxxy, tell me something interesting. Koshi/Stan are my 2 horses. Consolidation should be priority #1. I don’t think a HF push will be fruitful and it’s honestly just killing DF. I’d prefer to say on stan right now. I hate shenanigans.
It's not a shenanigan, and Stan is fine. But why do you say it's just killing DF?
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On November 21 2017 04:06 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 03:54 ruXxar wrote:On November 21 2017 03:40 Damdred wrote:
Focus ruxxy, tell me something interesting. Koshi/Stan are my 2 horses. Consolidation should be priority #1. I don’t think a HF push will be fruitful and it’s honestly just killing DF. I’d prefer to say on stan right now. I hate shenanigans. It's not a shenanigan, and Stan is fine. But why do you say it's just killing DF?
nvm just saw the vote count
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On November 21 2017 04:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 02:22 KelsierSC wrote:TW should be the lynch, I am unsure of ruxxar which does give me pause but yeh it's tricky. I already said I didn't like his entry to the thread so no need to harp on that. Since that point he hasn't made any contributions except trying to defend df ,forgive me but I don't see why. df didn't seem super town at that point, On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care? He then backtracks saying he wasn't trying to defend df, so is df scummy then? He said he doesn't have any scumreads but wants to ask questions. On November 20 2017 14:43 Tumblewood wrote:
no real scumreads so i'm gonna try the thing where you ask people questions Since then he asked like one question to hf. Which was a terrible question because hf had already explained the answer. On November 21 2017 01:04 Tumblewood wrote:On November 21 2017 00:47 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote:
VE, Ruxx, Conversion maybe HF town
HF can you explain how Ruxx is "looking in the wrong places" or whatever you said? Examples etc Didn't like his questioning on stan or whatever his name is. Was quite obvious he meant that damdred, if mafia, would have a good town read on ruxxar. Then his posts he picks out throughout the game just seem really odd. He presses the kelsier point far too much and like I said in my post earlier to you, what is mafia kelsier's motive to lie about a post that stuck out from the thread? Seems really fucking stupid to do and a stupid line of questioning. He's just picking on things that don't align in my mind with what a towny would pick on. His scum list is basically that he couldn't understand a basic stan read and kelsier bs. ok i know you said rux was town for dumbtelling, but that seems to have disappeared and you also called ve conftown for the same thing. why is rux not conftown in your mind? So no real contributions, not really paying attention and imo defending df who he probably already knows is town. ##Vote Tumblewood Yeah ok this is some bullshit read. Why would mafia tumblewood defend town DF???? Don't know but kelsier doesn't know either. Hmm. Also TW is totally playing like his last game where he did the exact same thing and he was town. Kelsier scummy
While I'm definitely rethinking my town read on Kelsi, please consider the lynch votes for today. Are you really really still set on df?
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On November 21 2017 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Stanislav are you new to this game? Are you a smurf? Why would this change your read?
I mentioned he looked like a new player, I think he just wanted to confirm. It makes a difference on what you can or cannot attribute to inexperience.
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On November 21 2017 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:16 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 21 2017 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 21 2017 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Stanislav are you new to this game? Are you a smurf? Why would this change your read? I mentioned he looked like a new player, I think he just wanted to confirm. It makes a difference on what you can or cannot attribute to inexperience. Are you hapa?
Are you wasting time asking pointless questions with one hour set to lynch?
On November 21 2017 04:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Zbo, are you gonna waste your vote today?
Also why the FUCK do you want me to change my vote? If you have been reading, you would know I would much prefer Stan, not the person you are voting on.
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See why I think he's scum Hapa?
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