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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:09 GMT
#1241
On November 06 2017 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
I get a bad feeling from ritoky. I'm definitely sure I've seen him vote off wagon or himself as a placeholder. Conversion voting himself was not scummy in the slightest and I don't know how people tried to twist it to be. Ritoky isn't the offender here, it's ruxxar, but I still get the bad juju from ritoky who has just been spouting rhetoric about not lynching mafia wagon instead of analysing the people.

On November 06 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Like a darthfoley kill does not make the slightest bit of sense unless one of the mafia people bussed their team mate and don't want to look implicated from poe nks or they're trying to set up ruxxar.

Ritoky just blanket statements that we shouldn't lynch people on the wagon which is bad in this situation. It's either a high level ish kill or a bus but he's trying to make it neither.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:09 GMT
#1242
On November 07 2017 06:08 ritoky wrote:
happykrogan seems to be mafia in every world that doesn't involve ruxxar being mafia, so probably him.

in the world where the game is auto after conv claimed since we had 3 lynches and 4 unknowns, that was reduced to 3 lynches 3 unknowns. it is happykrogan + hf/shockey (whichever is the 1 playing grab ass)

in the world where zen accidentally'd his teammate it is him + 1 of the above in which case there's an argument to be made for hf and shockeyy playing grabass = town in which case krogan is more mafia than both of them.

then there's the 3rd world where it was mvm like oats said and ruxxar is mafia, which makes the game dumb and less solved and i don't like that.

but that's just at a glance.


This is so unbelievably generic man come on.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:10 GMT
#1243
oh wow, a substitute player with low availability seems disconnected from the game. imagine that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:11 GMT
#1244
do you want me to go solve the game? cuz i will do it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:14 GMT
#1245
It's not being disconnected you just listed like 4 possibilities and made no conclusions. I am beyond disconnected in this game but even I can see that a darthfoley kill doesn't make sense in a world where it's not a bus or a vet.

Yet, you don't think ruxxar is mafia and you think happykrogan is mafia with shockey/myself but for some reason we go for killing the ruxxar wagon people. Iirc df even town read happy so that's him doing 2 suboptimal nk moves and you're saying I'm on a team with him and would let him do that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:14 GMT
#1246
There's shit reads and then there's the level of analysis you just put in.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:17 GMT
#1247
And then you try and "theorise" a bus but you select the only guy on the wagon with the most innocent not mafia play of all time to be potentially mafia over Damerion who has literally posted nothing and "sheeped" his wary scum-ish lean damdred for "good points on tt" when damdred didn't really post any real good points and afkd the rest of the game.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:17 GMT
#1248
you're doing that thing again holyflare. that thing where you assume that everyone around you plays at your level. the unfortunate reality is that sometimes the mafia team is inexperienced or doesn't have a leader and then they don't know that they HAVE to kill on the tt wagon, even if it is a bus.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:18 GMT
#1249
like killing DF was just objectively an error. flat out.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:18 GMT
#1250
I literally just played in a game with the exact same 2 people where the exact same scenario happened and we talked about the exact same things.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:19 GMT
#1251
It's not an error at all if mafia bussed and I would make the same kill if I bussed because eventually the wagon would narrow down to you. Or if I was ruxxar I would make the same kill too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:21 GMT
#1252
Fortunately I'm confirmed town for voting off wagon
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:22 GMT
#1253
no fucking way dude, you shoot on the wagon to validate your bussers as town even further and keep the largest lynch pool. shooting DF gives your bussers less cred and narrows your lynch pool, it is objectively wrong.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:26 GMT
#1254
also do you want me to go solve the game or not?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 06 2017 21:26 GMT
#1255
why would I say no?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 06 2017 21:32 GMT
#1256
On November 06 2017 23:47 Holyflare wrote:
I get a bad feeling from ritoky. I'm definitely sure I've seen him vote off wagon or himself as a placeholder. Conversion voting himself was not scummy in the slightest and I don't know how people tried to twist it to be. Ritoky isn't the offender here, it's ruxxar, but I still get the bad juju from ritoky who has just been spouting rhetoric about not lynching mafia wagon instead of analysing the people.


Conversion voting himself did appear scummy to me. It looked like avoiding responsibility for a lynch, and using an afk excuse to legitimize it.



On November 06 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote:

Like a darthfoley kill does not make the slightest bit of sense unless one of the mafia people bussed their team mate and don't want to look implicated from poe nks or they're trying to set up ruxxar.

Ritoky just blanket statements that we shouldn't lynch people on the wagon which is bad in this situation. It's either a high level ish kill or a bus but he's trying to make it neither.


1) A DF kill makes sense in any case where mafia was not on my lynch.
Then the tie-breaker for me is: did they vote for mafia or did they not?
The people who voted off wagon look scummer to me than those who didn't.
Which is why the DF kill is pointing to Zen/HF/Ritoky (ignoring blues conversion/shockey)

2) In essence I consider people that lynched mafia more towny than those who didn't, so I don't consider saying that such a bad thing. He did also happen to evaluate zen a bit, so good on him.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:33 GMT
#1257
does ruxxar have a more recent game as mafia than the 1 2 yrs ago in the player records thread?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 06 2017 21:33 GMT
#1258
the kill can't point to me ruxx, i wasn't in the game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 06 2017 21:35 GMT
#1259
On November 07 2017 06:33 ritoky wrote:
does ruxxar have a more recent game as mafia than the 1 2 yrs ago in the player records thread?


No I don't.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 06 2017 21:36 GMT
#1260
On November 07 2017 06:33 ritoky wrote:
the kill can't point to me ruxx, i wasn't in the game.


Doesn't matter. Breshke wasn't on my wagon, so he wasnt in the shrinking pool.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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