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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 12:31 GMT
#274
On November 01 2017 19:34 happykrogan wrote:
Actulally I think df acts more like oats last game than oats himself


explain this
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 12:32 GMT
#275
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 12:34 GMT
#276
oats and df are town to me at this exact moment in time
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 13:25 GMT
#285
On November 01 2017 22:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:33 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:31 Holyflare wrote:
So your read is entirely irrelevant but you've been defending it for no reason? Why bother defending the notion that his play style has changed if it means nothing to you??


I'm defending it because it's completely inane to debate something so irrelevant and it's mind boggling that any of you think this is productive


I'm voting conversion until he admits his point about HF was wrong and that defending it was stupid. No hard feelings.


that’s fine. your stubbornness will get town lynched, but it’s only D1
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 13:30 GMT
#287
wow your landlord is a dick.. sorry to hear that and hope it gets sorted
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 13:36 GMT
#288
the problem I have with DF is attacking anyone possible is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 13:37 GMT
#289
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 13:58 GMT
#292
I think that's a little far fetched though? People push hard on town all the time-- hell even I've done it in the past for town acting scummy

I'm just saying people push hard on town all the time b/c they look scummy, and I don't think it's a good argument. Although it does bother me a bit that he decided to go for low hanging fruit (people posting recently) instead of zoning in on someone (Like he did with scum me last game).
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 13:59 GMT
#293
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 14:39 GMT
#303
On November 01 2017 23:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Says the guy that got triggered lol


that was a useful post. thanks for your 10/10 input. you are the thread sentiment right now. no one likes you, and you have 2 votes on you.

if you don't like facts, then get the fuck out of my face. thanks
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 14:40 GMT
#304
On November 01 2017 23:25 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Why are you defending DF so hard anyway?
What’s in it for you?


I'm not defending DF I'm trying to explain that I don't understand/agree with you and krogan's reasons, so I'm asking questions
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 14:44 GMT
#306
On November 01 2017 23:07 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


I think there are enough points on you that one could say he jumped on an easy lynch.

Another possibility is of course that you are partners but I think he would bus you at least a little bit then.


Fair point. We are definitely not partners, because I am 1000% town. I read my PM diligently and saw green
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 14:52 GMT
#309
On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to me.

But I got way off track with that post meh


ya I'm trying to change that. sorry dad, I'll be better
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 15:03 GMT
#311
On November 01 2017 13:05 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:53 Damerion wrote:
Shockey has the worst entrance tone wise, he complains on what reads llike a thread that is having fun in the early going (to me reads like totally town uo to that point).

He then makes another post about hoping he has more posts to work with when he geta back without adding to the game himself.

I am above 50% that he is scum at this point.

I am 100% you are scum
##vote dam


oh hey look, it's the guy that did the same shit last game when he was scum


On November 01 2017 13:07 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.


I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger

You are a whole lotta nothing burger.
What are you eving doing with this post.


Explaining why ruxxar's post is lame as hell and non-committal to the utmost. It's rather obvious what I was doing. Take your attitude elsewhere


On November 01 2017 13:09 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 13:05 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:53 Damerion wrote:
Shockey has the worst entrance tone wise, he complains on what reads llike a thread that is having fun in the early going (to me reads like totally town uo to that point).

He then makes another post about hoping he has more posts to work with when he geta back without adding to the game himself.

I am above 50% that he is scum at this point.

I am 100% you are scum
##vote dam


oh hey look, it's the guy that did the same shit last game when he was scum

Oh hey look, that's meta read off literally one post and literally not looking at my other games, just casually throwing shade. Same with rux.


Why would I look at your other games based off of one post? You're mighty defensive lol. Yea, i'm casually throwing shade. Because you did the same over-aggressive "i'm gonna be a dick" D1 strategy last game. This is mafia. People throw shade. Get over it


Looking back and rereading, these are the string of posts I don't like from DF. Instantly gets defensive from Oats (I think he was being way less aggressive this game than last one, he was just calling people shit left and right last one), and then tries to make it sound like Oats is defensive when he is (Oats initiated the conversation)

[B]On November 01 2017 13:19 darthfoley wrote:
Fwiw, Conversion could definitely be a salty 2x scum roller who is sick of being pressured D1. I'm too tired to look over his filter tonight, but his hissy fit was alarming.

I don't spend my time piling on people 3 hours into a game. There are other avenues to be explored like you, and ruxxar! And maybe HF


And this makes it seem like if he suddenly switches his scum read/vote to me, it gives him an easy out from backing off Oats

I think I see where you guys are coming from
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 15:07 GMT
#312
On November 01 2017 23:39 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 23:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Says the guy that got triggered lol


that was a useful post. thanks for your 10/10 input. you are the thread sentiment right now. no one likes you, and you have 2 votes on you.

if you don't like facts, then get the fuck out of my face. thanks


In all seriousness and not being a dick-ness, this is an awful post on your end and doesn't help me townread you any more. What about that post was offensive that you had to make a snide remark? Do you disagree that the general sentiment right now is that your entrance/defense was not good?

Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 15:56 GMT
#318
On November 02 2017 00:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If you look at Damerion's filter, it shows he litterally tried to start a bandwagon on me:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Damerion

then just disappeared, now I have conversion attacking me trying to make a play between me and him, having you all try and choose between us lol. It's just quite funny.


I'm literally asking you what the point of your post was, and you're ignoring me and telling me I'm trying to make a play between Damerion. It'd be nice if you didn't ignore my question
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:00 GMT
#319
Also, if I was trying to "make a play" between Damerion why would I bother calling out the fact that I don't like his play, get called out for it by two different people, and get pissed when it doesn't work? That doesn't look good for a Damerion/Conversion scum team at all.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:08 GMT
#321
On November 02 2017 01:00 Conversion wrote:
Also, if I was trying to "make a play" between Damerion why would I bother calling out the fact that I don't like his play, get called out for it by two different people, and get pissed when it doesn't work? That doesn't look good for a Damerion/Conversion scum team at all.


Wait, I misread your post. You're saying I'm trying to make a play between YOU and me. Sorry.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:14 GMT
#323
On November 02 2017 01:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm not answering because it's my entrance, what do you think?.... Like it's a bait question to try and "analyze" my own post, when I don't need to.


In addendum to my previous post, you don't make sense anyways. Why am I trying to make a play between you and me? I have stated and literally am stating that the two easiest lynches are you and me, which you keep dodging for some reason.

You're an easy lynch because 2 votes are on you, your entrance is bad, and your subsequent posts are bad.

I'm an easy lynch because outbursts are a big no no and I was being toxic and yelling and hurling shit everywhere.

You have given me no real answer, you keep sidestepping my questions for no real good reason. Which is kind of funny that you can't understand what I'm asking you to do, since you seem to be above clarifying your stance earlier since "people should understand if they read"

Perhaps you should try reading and stop sidestepping
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:14 GMT
#324
I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason.
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