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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:00 GMT
#501
HF could you point me at the post slecifically that changed your mind?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 14 2017 18:00 GMT
#502
On October 15 2017 02:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On October 15 2017 02:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
scumish
oats - seems mafia, tone read i guess


Can you expound on this? I want to know what you're refering to.

He seems like he's grumpy and while that may not be too different from normal oats it feels to me like he's trying to be adversarial rather than actually find mafia

lol sniped
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
October 14 2017 18:01 GMT
#503
On October 13 2017 23:23 ruXxar wrote:
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On October 13 2017 23:15 Conversion wrote:
On October 13 2017 22:43 ruXxar wrote:
On October 13 2017 20:43 Conversion wrote:
can’t really read df or grack, but that’s not really suprising since I couldn’t before anyways. null

oats is a tad bit aggressive for my taste but I think that’s just how he plays from what I’m observing. can any vets confirm? ruxxar sort confirmed in my last question

damerion slayed last game so I’m gonna put him in the wary pile as I do with all great players

HF being HF... less fiery though (burnt out maybe?) sorry I still don’t and won’t fully 100% townread you (although I say that and always end up townreading :l) I do like that we had same thoughts about lonelyclock man

FF being fluffy and vague but last time I pushed for his lynch he flipped town.. don’t like his play really



What do you mean by wary of damerion? Town lean, scum lean, null?


I'm just wary of people that are clearly leagues above me in playing forum mafia since they can seem super towny as I'm pretty bad at determining what is scummy behavior vs. what is overly aggressive town behavior etc. etc.

from what I saw from Damerion last game he seems good enough to bamboozle me, so I'm just keeping him at a hard null like I usually do with HF


It's ok to be wary. No need to expend any more energy on him.
You don't need to lynch him right now.
If he's playing and contributing, leave him be for a couple days. Gather more information before you make up your mind.

Strong players are good at masking themselves, so whatever clues you think you see now could just be false positives.
You need to catch them by observing them over a longer period of time.


One thing that I want to say about popping in and out, is I honestly don't really know what to say at this point. Saying things really doesn't seem productive until more happens in the game, but at the same time, I feel obligated to say something to show that I am actually playing the game.

I also feel like until actions in the game develop, trying to make any judgements this early is pointless. Anyone can say whatever they want, and there are no actual actions to compare to.

Along this vein, I don't understand why a VT would say "Thank god I am VT." what does that accomplish? This is why I pointed this out in my first (technically second) post. As Ruxxar says above, I am pretty sure no good conclusions can be made until after the first night.

I did not think Ruxxar was Mafia, a kind of arbitrary opinion at this point, to be honest, but I did think the fact that there were three votes for him immediately seemed suspicious. I felt like only people who have real information (mafia) would have a reason to gang up on someone at this point. If this is right, and we lynched one of Oatsmaster, MrLonelyClock , or happykrogan, we could have a good idea that one of the other two, if not both were mafia, which would give us very helpful information. Since Oatsmaster was the only other person voted for at the time, he was "the only other option" to me.

Going back to my claim "I also feel like until actions in the game develop, trying to make any judgments this early is pointless.", I think I made a mistake by voting when I did, since making actions early seems to be the only thing you can make conclusions from, and voting is an action, especially since I did not explain my thoughts with my vote before going to bed.

On October 14 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok, so I feel a little guilty at this point in time and I will try to be tge old Damdred this game.

Fact check away on my reads this train aint got no breaks and i aint got time to quote on phone.

Town Reads:

Damerion, he has this thing he does as town where he will have this skrt of mission statement about how he will approach the game. He has checked that, he gives clear concise reada with hard reasoning behind it, done. He also seems to try to draw people into conversation instead of existing.

Rux rux baby: Off the cuff read, the eay he responds to the pressure is town. Does t care, tries to be helpful and then establishes where he wants to be in the game. I think hes just going to be town for the tone and the lressure, but his reads were not bad.

If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.

FF: Hey buddy we should work together, care free attitude. Gives some opinions still a bit weak on a few points, overall would not kynch today.

Gracky: Posts his thoughts, goes against thread sentiment a post or two ago. Seems to be looking where others dont, no lynch today.

Oats: Seemed to be reading the game a d his lressure wasnt horrid. It is defi ately not top town worthy but enough for a pass.

Xenon and nylonelylock are both town i feel for how they approached the game as newbs. Meh they were soitting fire earlier

Everyone else is in this null range besides hf who I love dearly but am ignoring until he wants cuddles.


Based on this, and some other comments I read, I was maybe a bit overconfident that people believed I was town, and so making an earlier vote was not going to draw negative attention to me.


Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 14 2017 18:03 GMT
#504
On October 15 2017 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 02:52 Damdred wrote:
On October 15 2017 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
NOW you think xenonn is looking bad??????????

he looks so fucking new now


I dont understand what he sis between your vote and you going i like his new posts when he hadnt posted anything oo


I read his filter earlier and went away and was talking about him when I returned without reading his new posts. Then I read his new posts.

Damdred, can you concisely explain why xennon is mafia rather than noob town.

No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:07 GMT
#505
On October 15 2017 03:01 xenonn40 wrote:
I did not think Ruxxar was Mafia, a kind of arbitrary opinion at this point, to be honest, but I did think the fact that there were three votes for him immediately seemed suspicious. I felt like only people who have real information (mafia) would have a reason to gang up on someone at this point. If this is right, and we lynched one of Oatsmaster, MrLonelyClock , or happykrogan, we could have a good idea that one of the other two, if not both were mafia, which would give us very helpful information. Since Oatsmaster was the only other person voted for at the time, he was "the only other option" to.


This is exactly what I was looking for and makes me understand where you're coming from.
I feel good about you now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:11 GMT
#506
On October 15 2017 02:29 Damdred wrote:
Well good doctor sir, I think in the mess Damerion posted he did have a good point about Oats, which was masked by his inability to get over a macro read.

So I am willing to listen towards Oats, but the way the sith is acting towards conv is a bit diaconcerting.


I don't like this post of yours damdred.
Damerion was in fact pushing for a grack lynch, not an oats lynch.
Why are you misrepresenting his message?

On October 15 2017 00:57 Damerion wrote:
The meat of the post was about how Grackaroni acted and treated Oatsmaster.

I will admit it is possible a light bus this early is possible, but I will make a decision on that at a later date.

Right now thoughts about Grackaroni would be appreciated as I see him coming more from scum than town in his aplroach at the moment.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 14 2017 18:12 GMT
#507
damerion has a lot less posts than I expected.
And they are all waffely. I hate waffles.
No gg, No skill.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2017 18:13 GMT
#508
that last oats post makes me think he is just an adversarial player in general
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 14 2017 18:15 GMT
#509
I am happy with voting Damerion, anyone else needs to fight me and say why he shouldn't be lynched.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:16 GMT
#510
I will gladly admit that one of the strongest reason I don't want to lynch damerion is because he played like a champ last game.

I feel like this bias is clouding my judgement on him, but it's hard to not want to give him 1 more day at least.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
October 14 2017 18:16 GMT
#511
Just so you guys know I am reading this entire game writeing my thoughts as I am reading for one big post. Then will give you my overall thoughts.
Try TL Mafia!!!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:17 GMT
#512
On October 15 2017 03:16 Onegu wrote:
Just so you guys know I am reading this entire game writeing my thoughts as I am reading for one big post. Then will give you my overall thoughts.


Before the deadline please.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 14 2017 18:18 GMT
#513
On October 15 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
I will gladly admit that one of the strongest reason I don't want to lynch damerion is because he played like a champ last game.

I feel like this bias is clouding my judgement on him, but it's hard to not want to give him 1 more day at least.


that's not how you should ever play this game, you lynch people that are playing like mafia and he is playing like mafia
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 14 2017 18:18 GMT
#514
On October 15 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
I will gladly admit that one of the strongest reason I don't want to lynch damerion is because he played like a champ last game.

I feel like this bias is clouding my judgement on him, but it's hard to not want to give him 1 more day at least.

Is he playing like a champ this game?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:19 GMT
#515
On October 15 2017 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
I will gladly admit that one of the strongest reason I don't want to lynch damerion is because he played like a champ last game.

I feel like this bias is clouding my judgement on him, but it's hard to not want to give him 1 more day at least.


that's not how you should ever play this game, you lynch people that are playing like mafia and he is playing like mafia


You're right, let me eat my dinner then re-evaluate.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 14 2017 18:20 GMT
#516
but I'm mafia ruxxar so why am I right?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 14 2017 18:21 GMT
#517
On October 15 2017 03:20 Holyflare wrote:
but I'm mafia ruxxar so why am I right?

WHO KNOWS????
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:22 GMT
#518
On October 15 2017 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 03:16 ruXxar wrote:
I will gladly admit that one of the strongest reason I don't want to lynch damerion is because he played like a champ last game.

I feel like this bias is clouding my judgement on him, but it's hard to not want to give him 1 more day at least.

Is he playing like a champ this game?


He's playing very subpar so far on a relative scale.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 14 2017 18:22 GMT
#519
I'm calm and content with the fact that I am bad at this game

I would still like this question answered mr. clock man. where'd you go

On October 15 2017 02:02 Conversion wrote:
you also completely ignore the fact that Damdred ignored your question, and you never followed up with it. what's up with that?


Damdred/grack thoughts on Xen post?

leaning towards sheeping HF right now..
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 14 2017 18:23 GMT
#520
The answer is I dont really think Xen is mafia Oats.

I really want hf to answer my question though
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