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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 29 2017 19:32 GMT
#1841
On August 30 2017 04:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jk pls claim

I mean, I'm assuming that either skynx or rux is not totally braindead and actually are JK or gonna be stupid as fuck and claim JK now.
No gg, No skill.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 29 2017 19:32 GMT
#1842
Sorry lex
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 29 2017 19:36 GMT
#1843
is the mafia team random or handpicked
No gg, No skill.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2017 19:51 GMT
#1844
this is a surprise
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2017 19:52 GMT
#1845
unless it is exactly hf/geript/oats some major assumption i made about this game is wrong
good times for all
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 29 2017 19:57 GMT
#1846
On August 30 2017 04:52 Tumblewood wrote:
unless it is exactly hf/geript/oats some major assumption i made about this game is wrong

It's not exactly hf/geript/oats
What major assumption about the game did you make?
No gg, No skill.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2017 20:09 GMT
#1847
On August 30 2017 04:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2017 04:52 Tumblewood wrote:
unless it is exactly hf/geript/oats some major assumption i made about this game is wrong

It's not exactly hf/geript/oats
What major assumption about the game did you make?

someone i had written off as town is not town. it might be damdred. imma have to reread d1 to make sense of it.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2017 20:14 GMT
#1848
i could believe a geript/damdred/x team. it makes sense if geript is scum for damdred to start another wagon on art, which drew everyone off the geript wagon. it just seems off that scum would put all their eggs in one basket in a tvt run-off
good times for all
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 29 2017 20:18 GMT
#1849
Damdred???!??
What do you mean put all their eggs in one basket?
No gg, No skill.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 29 2017 20:23 GMT
#1850
On August 30 2017 05:14 Tumblewood wrote:
i could believe a geript/damdred/x team. it makes sense if geript is scum for damdred to start another wagon on art, which drew everyone off the geript wagon. it just seems off that scum would put all their eggs in one basket in a tvt run-off


This is factually incorrect what happened eod.

Geript wagon was dead be for I started my push, and koshi still apparently had 5 votes...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 29 2017 20:29 GMT
#1851
And secondly what's the point of a second town wagon when town koshi is leading the votes?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 29 2017 20:42 GMT
#1852
i wasn't there to see deadline unfold and i'm piecing it together from the vote count. but if i am wrong on anyone it's you
good times for all
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 29 2017 20:44 GMT
#1853
What are you even saying?
Do you mean if you are wrong about your townread, damdred is mafia?
Or if you are wrong about the 4 scumreads, damdred is the most unlikely mafia?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2017 04:20 GMT
#1854
I have an assumption here, and i would like you to discuss this with me Damdred.
My assumption (or rather observation) is from the games i have played that LS has a really hard time lying )and/or making up stuff).

On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough.

This post is super weird, it's like he wants to call me mafia but doesn't after all. That would be in my opinion a "LS-reasonable approach" as mafia as Skynx and Ruxxar are already calling me mafia.

Second thing is this:
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.

On August 28 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
We lynching me instead of lex k thanx bye.

On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting
##Unvote

On August 29 2017 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
ruxxar forcing a narrative that been disproven is so bad idk if he just being dumb here or mafia >.<

On August 29 2017 00:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh if you guys wanted to know where I came up with the idea of the trap I was eating dinner last night and thought it would be a good idea to see if mafia would try to lynch me in a attempt to save Lex if Lex was mafia but everyone got to confused >.<

This sounds like a super bad lie. I have been reading this over and over again and i am not sure LS is telling the whole truth here. I don't know what's wrong here but this sounds so wrong to my ear. I mean like he said something really dumb, HF calls him out and then he turns it into a reaction test?? It just sounds so wrong tbh.


On August 29 2017 11:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 10:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Where is everyone?

Hi LS

What do you think about HF?
Actually what do you think about me?

I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you.

Mafia shot is carried by someone?
Whos the other 2 mafia then?


Yes mafia shot is carried by someone it's in the op.
ruxxar and if I wrong on any of my town reads would be geript because his play wasn't good but him replacing out like that made me feel like he just was a super depressed town.

This one, i don't even know what this one means. Does LS' brain work like this?
"There is 3 mafia in the game - i have townreads on everyone except for Artanis and ruxxar so MAYBE i am wrong in one of my townreads"....???? I mean like do you -- Damdred -- think he actually thinks like that as town? Remember that he has basically just called Ruxxar "possibly too dumb to be scum" so i don't really know if that should be even a scumread in his mind.

Is this how LS reacts to being called mafia when he is town?
On August 26 2017 05:03 LightningStrike wrote:
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On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

He calling me mafia for those points.

I think this is more likely:
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike


I mean like Oats was pushing him like half of D1 yet he remained super calm and i got a feeling he was in "you won't lynch me anyways"-kind-of-mindstate, which doesn't feel natural at all for him.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2017 04:25 GMT
#1855
On August 29 2017 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Oats give me your mafia list and a sentence on why they're mafia

Hf cause he's not dead
Tw cause he's done nothing and is totally uninterested in who is mafia
Art cause he's martyring

Other people who I'm waffly about
Rux is fixated on rayns claim nd can be using that to create content
Geript/onegu done nothing
Skynx literally cannot remember what he has done.

I also find this very weird. Oats reads TW mafia because he hasn't done anything, but doesn't read LS mafia when LS doesn't really even have any scumreads....
table for two on a tv tray
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 30 2017 04:35 GMT
#1856
On August 30 2017 13:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have an assumption here, and i would like you to discuss this with me Damdred.
My assumption (or rather observation) is from the games i have played that LS has a really hard time lying )and/or making up stuff).

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On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough.

This post is super weird, it's like he wants to call me mafia but doesn't after all. That would be in my opinion a "LS-reasonable approach" as mafia as Skynx and Ruxxar are already calling me mafia.

Second thing is this:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike
I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
We lynching me instead of lex k thanx bye.

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting
##Unvote

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On August 29 2017 00:21 LightningStrike wrote:
ruxxar forcing a narrative that been disproven is so bad idk if he just being dumb here or mafia >.<

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On August 29 2017 00:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh if you guys wanted to know where I came up with the idea of the trap I was eating dinner last night and thought it would be a good idea to see if mafia would try to lynch me in a attempt to save Lex if Lex was mafia but everyone got to confused >.<

This sounds like a super bad lie. I have been reading this over and over again and i am not sure LS is telling the whole truth here. I don't know what's wrong here but this sounds so wrong to my ear. I mean like he said something really dumb, HF calls him out and then he turns it into a reaction test?? It just sounds so wrong tbh.


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On August 29 2017 11:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Where is everyone?

Hi LS

What do you think about HF?
Actually what do you think about me?

I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you.

Mafia shot is carried by someone?
Whos the other 2 mafia then?


Yes mafia shot is carried by someone it's in the op.
ruxxar and if I wrong on any of my town reads would be geript because his play wasn't good but him replacing out like that made me feel like he just was a super depressed town.

This one, i don't even know what this one means. Does LS' brain work like this?
"There is 3 mafia in the game - i have townreads on everyone except for Artanis and ruxxar so MAYBE i am wrong in one of my townreads"....???? I mean like do you -- Damdred -- think he actually thinks like that as town? Remember that he has basically just called Ruxxar "possibly too dumb to be scum" so i don't really know if that should be even a scumread in his mind.

Is this how LS reacts to being called mafia when he is town?
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On August 26 2017 05:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

He calling me mafia for those points.

I think this is more likely:
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On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you
##Vote: LightningStrike


I mean like Oats was pushing him like half of D1 yet he remained super calm and i got a feeling he was in "you won't lynch me anyways"-kind-of-mindstate, which doesn't feel natural at all for him.

The reaction test was something I thought of during dinner but apparantly to many people got confused on it so I ended it >.> And No I wasn't trying to call you mafia I just thought your reasoning was bullshit that was all. About my ruxxar read I wasn't calling him to dumb to be scum idk where you got that from......... His narrative pushing on you was absolutely made no sense for a townie. He was calling you scum even after you claimed jailkeepr which I figure he was never this dumb as town when he played to do that which why I think he's scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 30 2017 04:38 GMT
#1857
Also rayn you do know I only been mislyunched twice past Day 2 as town right? Anyways going to bed now I just was upset about how you guys pretty much wasted 48 hours and not really talking much.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2017 04:51 GMT
#1858
ruxxar forcing a narrative that been disproven is so bad idk if he just being dumb here or mafia >.<
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2017 04:52 GMT
#1859
You totally didn't figure out he has to be scum in that post.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 30 2017 06:51 GMT
#1860
On August 30 2017 13:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 29 2017 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2017 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
Oats give me your mafia list and a sentence on why they're mafia

Hf cause he's not dead
Tw cause he's done nothing and is totally uninterested in who is mafia
Art cause he's martyring

Other people who I'm waffly about
Rux is fixated on rayns claim nd can be using that to create content
Geript/onegu done nothing
Skynx literally cannot remember what he has done.

I also find this very weird. Oats reads TW mafia because he hasn't done anything, but doesn't read LS mafia when LS doesn't really even have any scumreads....

That is true, however he did do that self vote shit which I think is townie.
So hes not on that list.
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