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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 09:48 GMT
#901
I agree with the general consensus that Oats is town. Ruxxar is a mystery this game.

Is there any downside of a no-lynch today? Town seems to be all over the place.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:50 GMT
#902
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.


Even though tw said geript always does it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:51 GMT
#903
We are lynching koshi 100000%
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 09:52 GMT
#904
On August 26 2017 18:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.


Even though tw said geript always does it?

I read through all that, I am re-evaluating things a bit right now.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 26 2017 09:53 GMT
#905
I think you're going to be wrong on Koshi. If you insist, i will sheep you though, since it seems like noone is paying any attention to what i say. On things that i find very clear. Like the Skynx thing earlier is super fucking clear and somehow half of the game came to a conclusion that Skynx is town for doign scummy shit, and it baffles me a great deal. Artanis is still doing nothing at all and makes conclusions based on very dumb things that don't even mean anything. geript can give a read on Tumblewood based on one sentence that should go AGAINST his meta, but cannot give any read on ruxxar when ruxxar as town in his opinion "cannot help vomiting everything he thinks into the thread" (aka he should be at least suspicious of ruxxar since ruxxar doesn't show this "quality" in this game -- it's a very simple train of thought geript for some reason cannot make).

Maybe... maybe there is like 30% chance i am actually wrong on Koshi and you are right and he is mafia. I just dont think it's the right answer.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:54 GMT
#906
I still don't town read skynx. No idea what the other half of the game is doing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:54 GMT
#907
Did artanis post anything since i slam dunked him?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 26 2017 09:55 GMT
#908
Hey i actually get to use this:
On August 22 2017 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's kinda alarming that the only person who realized this is ritoky (idk, Conversion maybe too). Even the judges couldn't figure out this is not how townies should act.

table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:56 GMT
#909
Ok yeh artanis is definitely mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:56 GMT
#910
His longest post in the game is literally explaining why someone claiming cop is town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:57 GMT
#911
On August 25 2017 20:55 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.

I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool.

Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running.

You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.



Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.


I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because?

None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open.

There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia?

Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely.


There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie?

So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled?

Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???

Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.



I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong.

Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??

Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town.


Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia."

.................

Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+


Slam dunk.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 26 2017 09:57 GMT
#912
Heya, can play till about 2pm now when we'll have D&D. Will be reading up.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 26 2017 09:58 GMT
#913
rayn, you are acting with a super confirmation bias of one thought that I'm replicating "oh look at my bad case I must be town" from last game. I suggest you leave the tunnel because it's helping no one.

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:58 GMT
#914
Hey artanis are you ever gonna explain why you said skynx motivation to call koshi mafia was based not on the reasons skynx was calling koshi mafia?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 26 2017 09:59 GMT
#915
On August 26 2017 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
His longest post in the game is literally explaining why someone claiming cop is town

On August 24 2017 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fuck it /in
Just don't expect the same activity from me from before I got a full time job x_x I'm not workposting lol

zzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:00 GMT
#916
On August 26 2017 18:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
His longest post in the game is literally explaining why someone claiming cop is town

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2017 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fuck it /in
Just don't expect the same activity from me from before I got a full time job x_x I'm not workposting lol

zzz


So? Just because you can't play that much doesn't mean you pick the most obvious thing to waste your time on to talk about.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 26 2017 10:00 GMT
#917
On August 26 2017 18:58 Holyflare wrote:
Hey artanis are you ever gonna explain why you said skynx motivation to call koshi mafia was based not on the reasons skynx was calling koshi mafia?

It is what made sense to me.
Clue 1: Skynx calls Koshi mafia for X
Clue 2: Skynx was proven wrong on this.
Clue 3: Skynx posting makes it clear he still has a suspicion
Obvious conclusion: This was not the reason he was scumreading Koshi.
It's not rocket science.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:00 GMT
#918
Did anyone scum read rayn for claiming cop? Did anyone not believe it? No. It's a cop out for doing activity.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 26 2017 10:00 GMT
#919
On August 26 2017 19:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 18:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
His longest post in the game is literally explaining why someone claiming cop is town

On August 24 2017 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fuck it /in
Just don't expect the same activity from me from before I got a full time job x_x I'm not workposting lol

zzz


So? Just because you can't play that much doesn't mean you pick the most obvious thing to waste your time on to talk about.

I had 15 minutes and had just skimmed through the thread. It's something I actually had enough info to talk about.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:01 GMT
#920
On August 26 2017 19:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 18:58 Holyflare wrote:
Hey artanis are you ever gonna explain why you said skynx motivation to call koshi mafia was based not on the reasons skynx was calling koshi mafia?

It is what made sense to me.
Clue 1: Skynx calls Koshi mafia for X
Clue 2: Skynx was proven wrong on this.
Clue 3: Skynx posting makes it clear he still has a suspicion
Obvious conclusion: This was not the reason he was scumreading Koshi.
It's not rocket science.


He's literally said he didn't have suspicion anymore???
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