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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 26 2017 06:39 GMT
#881
On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.


Post count has nothing to do with how superficial koshi is playing.
Koshi is taking the path of least resistance, wanting to lynch
Afk people.

He gets called out for it, and now he puts the people voting him on his scum list.
There's literally no reason why he thinks me and HF are mafia besides voting for him.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 26 2017 06:40 GMT
#882
Vivax is going on my scumlist as #2
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 26 2017 07:04 GMT
#883
My filter is literally as townie as it gets for meta.

Oats is being a shitter to the max and keeps grasping at straws, so maybe he is mafia after all. Basically no scumreads except the one person he currently talks about at any moment.

On August 26 2017 15:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.


Post count has nothing to do with how superficial koshi is playing.
Koshi is taking the path of least resistance, wanting to lynch
Afk people.

He gets called out for it, and now he puts the people voting him on his scum list.
There's literally no reason why he thinks me and HF are mafia besides voting for him.


Omgus is a townie reaction. If you see bullshit pushes on yourself, it's townie to suspect those people.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 26 2017 07:06 GMT
#884
On August 26 2017 07:20 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:17 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:13 ruXxar wrote:
Rayn made a blue claim???!! I thought that was HF claiming cop.

i think 2ish pages ago rayn said he was parity cop. hf hard claimed blue at the start of the game but i don't think he's serious. but idk, i tend to wait until the thread catches up to it because i'm really shit with telling whether people are claiming for real or not.


Can you quote the post?

My mind is kinda... wandering at this point....

On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

pranked! it was actually 4 pages ago

¨
Whatever.

I can guarantee you 1 thing tonight 100%.

Rayn is going to be alive tomorrow.


And wtf does this mean?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 26 2017 07:08 GMT
#885
Literally your entire case on koshi is that first he listed a bunch of afkers for lynch which is NAI, then omgused two of you (while you misrep that he omgused all of you although one of the votes was AFTER he posted the list) which is also NAI.

While ignoring that he has 8 pages of filter and keeps giving thoughts on everything.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 26 2017 07:22 GMT
#886
On August 26 2017 16:04 Vivax wrote:
My filter is literally as townie as it gets for meta.

Oats is being a shitter to the max and keeps grasping at straws, so maybe he is mafia after all. [b]Basically no scumreads except the one person he currently talks about at any moment. [/b[

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 15:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.


Post count has nothing to do with how superficial koshi is playing.
Koshi is taking the path of least resistance, wanting to lynch
Afk people.

He gets called out for it, and now he puts the people voting him on his scum list.
There's literally no reason why he thinks me and HF are mafia besides voting for him.


Omgus is a townie reaction. If you see bullshit pushes on yourself, it's townie to suspect those people.

lol untrue.

I dont care about meta and actually the fact that you are aware of it is scummy.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 26 2017 07:22 GMT
#887
On August 26 2017 16:08 Vivax wrote:
Literally your entire case on koshi is that first he listed a bunch of afkers for lynch which is NAI, then omgused two of you (while you misrep that he omgused all of you although one of the votes was AFTER he posted the list) which is also NAI.

While ignoring that he has 8 pages of filter and keeps giving thoughts on everything.

does koshi only do 8 pages of filter day 1 as town?

Cause thats not true either.
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 26 2017 07:26 GMT
#888
On August 26 2017 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 16:04 Vivax wrote:
My filter is literally as townie as it gets for meta.

Oats is being a shitter to the max and keeps grasping at straws, so maybe he is mafia after all. [b]Basically no scumreads except the one person he currently talks about at any moment. [/b[

On August 26 2017 15:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.


Post count has nothing to do with how superficial koshi is playing.
Koshi is taking the path of least resistance, wanting to lynch
Afk people.

He gets called out for it, and now he puts the people voting him on his scum list.
There's literally no reason why he thinks me and HF are mafia besides voting for him.


Omgus is a townie reaction. If you see bullshit pushes on yourself, it's townie to suspect those people.

lol untrue.

I dont care about meta and actually the fact that you are aware of it is scummy.


The truth hurts.

What's this bullshit you're trying to pull Oats. Make a bullet list of reasons for me being mafia cause so far all I saw is something about a soft townread and you saying I was calling Ruxxar bad and not mafia which is far from what I said.

And besides, what are your reasons for scumreading Koshi?

Rayn and Koshi are the two guys with 8 pages of filter. How often do mafia have the largest D1 filters Oats?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 26 2017 07:31 GMT
#889
This tunnel of yours has been super scummy. It's like you saw me pointing out that your read on geript was based on shitty reasons and decided to attack me for pointing it out, and since then you've been doing nothing but play with massive tunnel vision.

Your ruxxar townread is unexplained.
Your LS read isn't explained either.

You give no weighting at all to your reads.

Give me a percentage of confidence on me being mafia Oats.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 26 2017 07:56 GMT
#890
Zzzzz.

Where'd you both run off to
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 26 2017 08:56 GMT
#891
On August 26 2017 16:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:20 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:17 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:13 ruXxar wrote:
Rayn made a blue claim???!! I thought that was HF claiming cop.

i think 2ish pages ago rayn said he was parity cop. hf hard claimed blue at the start of the game but i don't think he's serious. but idk, i tend to wait until the thread catches up to it because i'm really shit with telling whether people are claiming for real or not.


Can you quote the post?

My mind is kinda... wandering at this point....

On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

pranked! it was actually 4 pages ago

¨
Whatever.

I can guarantee you 1 thing tonight 100%.

Rayn is going to be alive tomorrow.


And wtf does this mean?


It means that rayn is not playing his A-game right now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 08:59 GMT
#892
I'm sorry since when has filter length ever been an indicator for alignment for the spam players? You say koshi is "giving reads" but he's not actually. They're superficial as fuck. Perhaps you should read every comment he posts towards me and compare it to the game he was mafia and doing the same.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:00 GMT
#893
Like he returned and what did he do? "oh i thought deadline was today" and left again. No reads, doesn't even give a shit. Is that town koshi? No.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:34 GMT
#894
Boring game. No idea how he hasn't got all the votes yet.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:35 GMT
#895
Artanis/koshi a team.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 26 2017 09:35 GMT
#896
I find it scummy geript can do this:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

But can't do this:
On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Alright, were not getting anywhere further here, what's your read on ruxxar and Skynx?

I don't have one.

.. based on what's in the thread at both points geript (gives a read on Tumblewood / doesn't give a read on ruxxar) from those people.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 26 2017 09:36 GMT
#897
Fuck the last post of mine is missing a quote.
On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:07 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:57 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense.

I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him.

Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options.

So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it.

Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him.

Because I found a better way to meta him. Like, you're quoting me from a game where I'm trying to remember old meta and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering the right person. Like before generic, my last game was what, a year before maybe more? Like there's no reason to use something old that ime not even sure is correct when I have something up to date and has no risk of conflating players.

Okay, can you explain this meta read then, since i can't find it. You're just saying "he says what he thinks" which is the same sentence than your previous meta was so how should i be differentiate this new metaing from you from the old one?


Remember Generic 3? [b][u] Remember Ruxxar who had a complete inability to not vomit each and every single little thought he had in the thread?[b][u] It's kinda like that but way more subdued. It's like he has a thought, gives no shit about how it makes him look and just posts it.

On sec let me get on comp to find an example.


table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 26 2017 09:37 GMT
#898
ebwop:
Fuck the last post of mine is missing a quote.
On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:07 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:57 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense.

I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him.

Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options.

So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it.

Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him.

Because I found a better way to meta him. Like, you're quoting me from a game where I'm trying to remember old meta and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering the right person. Like before generic, my last game was what, a year before maybe more? Like there's no reason to use something old that ime not even sure is correct when I have something up to date and has no risk of conflating players.

Okay, can you explain this meta read then, since i can't find it. You're just saying "he says what he thinks" which is the same sentence than your previous meta was so how should i be differentiate this new metaing from you from the old one?


Remember Generic 3? Remember Ruxxar who had a complete inability to not vomit each and every single little thought he had in the thread? It's kinda like that but way more subdued. It's like he has a thought, gives no shit about how it makes him look and just posts it.

On sec let me get on comp to find an example.

table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 26 2017 09:46 GMT
#899
Skynx still has no scumreads.
Except for the scumread on geript....
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

...which actually is not a scumread after all.
On August 26 2017 02:41 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from.

If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me.


If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it.

From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town.

Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?

It's just a not well thought out entry imo. I see no reason to make the post he did from any alignment tbh.


How does anyone townread this guy ffs?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:47 GMT
#900
I'm not gonna lie I haven't particularly read anything.
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