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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 03 2017 22:23 GMT
#2441
So let me try and put my thoughts together here.

HF is mafia, no doubt.

Skynx is always town here for mindmelding and thinking rationally about the game.

Also this post from skynx is starting to make a lot of sense right now:

On September 01 2017 02:45 Skynx wrote:
I don't think associations make sense at this point, I'm just gona go on with instinctively what i feel at this point.

Ruxxar/TW/LS are town based on small stuff. LS's frustration felt genuine and Ruxxar not believing the claim to full extent i can relate. TW is more based on feels, his low volume play looks always the same both alignments and I identified him once as cop, i just don't think he's mafia here.

I would lynch HF here. I think he has the wits as town to realise Koshi!town at some point. I also think he pushed Art so hard with minor inconsistencies that didn't mean that much, in the end he just gave up. I'm not saying pushing is a mafia trait here but at some point but there just isn't that self-questioning of "does that actually make him mafia" here which I think HF does a lot in general.

Oats is my second lynch, he's just been picking up so many irrelevant stuff to question to seem interested in the game and give away town vibes. He has been pushing TW and geript for a while now but we had a chat in the beginning where he pointed out how its unlikely that they can't be mafia together.

That means last one is Damdred/Onegu. This is gona be the game deciding lynch. I have a feeling its Damdred, the sheer comfort mafia had this game as town picked on one another, made him quite laidback and enjoy the towncred he gained early on. It's hard to say anything on Onegu's part. He seemed uninterested as was geript but it can be swinged both ways.


Thats basically it, normally there is some association to make when you have two ml's but one was a complete waste, other was tvt. Everyone sr'd everyone so far, everyone showed so many inconsistencies its hard draw any conclusions so thats my best bet.



Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.
They are never together.

On September 02 2017 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Ok lets take a step back,

Firstly its dissapointing that you cant choose between us hf. I mighgt struggle with my thoughts sometimes but thats oretry crappy reason to drop me so fast. Also whats the point of goif against you d1 on a koshi lynch and try to oush what i think as scum? (Yes i am townreading hf still).

I have

Onegu as my clear scum read currently his reads do not make s ton of sense, and geript himself was off of his normal game even barring the emotional distress.

One of oats/tw they are never both mafia , and you also forgot to talk about tw hf. I think one of tgese two are scum, im sort of leaning oats atm for what skynx pointed out first it doeant maje a lot of sense for him to abandon his read for no real reason onto you.

The third scum is sort of a mystery to me. LS has dropped ofd the face if the earth and im worried hes teixked me.

Skynx is probably just town though hia thought process on his vkte reads towny.

Idk about rux i guess maybe? He does make sebse with a onegu and oats team, but ls does .arginalky as well.

Especially with how oats approached ls he kind of fits vetter with onegu and oats atm.


There is 1 mafia between Oats and TW.
They are never together if you look at how they went at each other yesterday.

Then there is 1 mafia between Onegu and LS.
This is due to the fact how they are both mega scumreading each other.




This is why its so important that we no-lynch today.
If we manage to remove one of the 50/50 options, we'll be on a really good path to catching 2 scum.

Mafia can't NK me, cause its going to confirm that HF is mafia 100%.

So mafia are forced to either NK damdred or skynx.

Anything else is going to help town catch more scum.

Now that I've said this... of course mafia are going to shoot one of Skynx/Damdred...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 22:25 GMT
#2442
Hey look the guy that doesn't care and had no reads magiced up some reads :D:D:D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 22:28 GMT
#2443
And it's also pretty terrible, would you look at that!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 03 2017 22:35 GMT
#2444
Our best option is to nolynch.
Our second best option is to lynch holyflare.

Anything else is going to be a 50/50 to me right now.
There might be some more connections if you dig deeper, but right now I gotta sleep.

If anyone has any suggestions for who the 2 mafia are of these 4, then please share.
I'd like us to try solve this tomorrow.

TW.
Onegu.
LS.
Oats.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 22:42 GMT
#2445
The best you can come up with is that maybe mafia is within 5 people because another 2 made basic alignment statements :D :D :D
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2017 23:34 GMT
#2446
On September 04 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
onegu and oats are mega associated though. it is the only reason i can think of why oats is totally ok with onegu making empty promises, not doing shit, and afk voting every cycle.



I havent afk'd
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2017 23:35 GMT
#2447
I also followed up my promise with reads...
Try TL Mafia!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 23:50 GMT
#2448
On September 02 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
Right now I feel like this is my status quo:

Mafia: HF/TW.

Town: Oats, Onegu.

Townish: Damdred.

Scummish: LS

Null: Skynx


Let us not forget.

On September 03 2017 21:53 ruXxar wrote:
What changed HF.
We are the the same situation today as we were yesterday.
Why do you suddenly not want to no-lynch when you so strongly wanted to yesterday?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 23:51 GMT
#2449
It's almost comical. Absolutely nothing has changed in his words but yet his reads are just opportunistic bull shittery.

And some people still don't want to lynch him right now :D
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 00:11 GMT
#2450
Why so desperate HF?

We're about to bust your scum team, and all you can do is try to end the game before its too late.

No wonder you dont want to no-lynch.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2017 00:35 GMT
#2451

Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.


We could both be town.

TMI???!?
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 00:59 GMT
#2452
On September 04 2017 09:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +

Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.


We could both be town.

TMI???!?


If you are both town, then where is the third mafia?

I don't think onegu and LS are a team, which means it's either skynx or damdred.

If you put a gun to my head and made me pick between damdred and skynx as scum, I would pick damdred.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 01:07 GMT
#2453
If damdred is scum then LS is 100% scum too.
The association between them is super strong.
Just look at their last filter posts and how they interact with each other.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 01:21 GMT
#2454
If we assume that oats and TW are town
it means that the mafia team is exactly HF, damdred, LS.

So that is currently one possibility.

I think that a damdred/LS team makes more sense than a LS +tw/oats team.

I feel like oats has been very independent, had a lot of head strong thoughts and not really fitting in with a team.
I have a hard time fitting oats in a team.

Oats/onegu works from the side of onegu super town reading oats.

But from oats side he really doesn't like that onegu is town reading him so hard.

Damdred/onegu team doesn't work. Damdred hated onegus list post.

Ls/onegu doesn't work.theyre scum reading each other hard.

TW/LS seems like it shouldn't really be a team either.

Hmmf.
I feel like the solution is right in front of us, we just need to figure it out.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 01:31 GMT
#2455
Like, just removing 1 person from the equation is going to confirm so much information for us.

It's so easy to see why mafia didn't shoot anyone.
We are so close to figuring it out.
They are super scared right now.

With one more night kill we should have a really easy time solving the game.

The reason mafia didn't shoot anyone is because it's bad for them.

If it was good for mafia to shoot someone, they would have done it.

What we need to do is pressure mafia into shooting.
They don't want to, but they will be forced to do so if they don't want a draw.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2017 01:58 GMT
#2456
On September 04 2017 09:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2017 09:35 Oatsmaster wrote:

Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.


We could both be town.

TMI???!?


If you are both town, then where is the third mafia?

I don't think onegu and LS are a team, which means it's either skynx or damdred.

If you put a gun to my head and made me pick between damdred and skynx as scum, I would pick damdred.

You quoted the post that damdred said and all he said was that we werent mafai together. Then you take that and TMI it into 1 mafia between me and TW
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2017 01:59 GMT
#2457
On September 04 2017 10:31 ruXxar wrote:

They don't want to, but they will be forced to do so if they don't want a draw.

Thats not how it works
generally in stalemates the team that does their action more recently isnt the one that has to do it again.

So since there was a nightkill more recently than a lynch, the mafia team isnt forced to do anything.
No gg, No skill.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 04 2017 05:16 GMT
#2458
On September 04 2017 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
The only way a mafia ruxxar can survive is to perpetuate the uncertainty on me.

Just look at his interactions with me today. Doesn't even call me mafia. Stark contrast to HOLYFLARE IS CONFIRMED WITH RAYN, no?

if needed i can take you both to lylo and figure it out then, but i see no reason to not go with the safest lynch each day
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 04 2017 05:20 GMT
#2459
you know what i just read ruxxar's new batch of posts and idc anymore. if he is town he has played so so bad
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 04 2017 05:54 GMT
#2460
On September 04 2017 09:11 ruXxar wrote:
Why so desperate HF?

We're about to bust your scum team, and all you can do is try to end the game before its too late.

No wonder you dont want to no-lynch.


It's not desperate. It's just highlighting the massive obvious discrepancies between what you've actually said and what you're now saying when you're backed into a corner. Nothing is more obvious to me than you being mafia.
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