• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:10
CEST 17:10
KST 00:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)76ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Is the larve respawn broken? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8798 users

[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 123

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 121 122 123 124 125 131 Next
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 03 2017 22:23 GMT
#2441
So let me try and put my thoughts together here.

HF is mafia, no doubt.

Skynx is always town here for mindmelding and thinking rationally about the game.

Also this post from skynx is starting to make a lot of sense right now:

On September 01 2017 02:45 Skynx wrote:
I don't think associations make sense at this point, I'm just gona go on with instinctively what i feel at this point.

Ruxxar/TW/LS are town based on small stuff. LS's frustration felt genuine and Ruxxar not believing the claim to full extent i can relate. TW is more based on feels, his low volume play looks always the same both alignments and I identified him once as cop, i just don't think he's mafia here.

I would lynch HF here. I think he has the wits as town to realise Koshi!town at some point. I also think he pushed Art so hard with minor inconsistencies that didn't mean that much, in the end he just gave up. I'm not saying pushing is a mafia trait here but at some point but there just isn't that self-questioning of "does that actually make him mafia" here which I think HF does a lot in general.

Oats is my second lynch, he's just been picking up so many irrelevant stuff to question to seem interested in the game and give away town vibes. He has been pushing TW and geript for a while now but we had a chat in the beginning where he pointed out how its unlikely that they can't be mafia together.

That means last one is Damdred/Onegu. This is gona be the game deciding lynch. I have a feeling its Damdred, the sheer comfort mafia had this game as town picked on one another, made him quite laidback and enjoy the towncred he gained early on. It's hard to say anything on Onegu's part. He seemed uninterested as was geript but it can be swinged both ways.


Thats basically it, normally there is some association to make when you have two ml's but one was a complete waste, other was tvt. Everyone sr'd everyone so far, everyone showed so many inconsistencies its hard draw any conclusions so thats my best bet.



Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.
They are never together.

On September 02 2017 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Ok lets take a step back,

Firstly its dissapointing that you cant choose between us hf. I mighgt struggle with my thoughts sometimes but thats oretry crappy reason to drop me so fast. Also whats the point of goif against you d1 on a koshi lynch and try to oush what i think as scum? (Yes i am townreading hf still).

I have

Onegu as my clear scum read currently his reads do not make s ton of sense, and geript himself was off of his normal game even barring the emotional distress.

One of oats/tw they are never both mafia , and you also forgot to talk about tw hf. I think one of tgese two are scum, im sort of leaning oats atm for what skynx pointed out first it doeant maje a lot of sense for him to abandon his read for no real reason onto you.

The third scum is sort of a mystery to me. LS has dropped ofd the face if the earth and im worried hes teixked me.

Skynx is probably just town though hia thought process on his vkte reads towny.

Idk about rux i guess maybe? He does make sebse with a onegu and oats team, but ls does .arginalky as well.

Especially with how oats approached ls he kind of fits vetter with onegu and oats atm.


There is 1 mafia between Oats and TW.
They are never together if you look at how they went at each other yesterday.

Then there is 1 mafia between Onegu and LS.
This is due to the fact how they are both mega scumreading each other.




This is why its so important that we no-lynch today.
If we manage to remove one of the 50/50 options, we'll be on a really good path to catching 2 scum.

Mafia can't NK me, cause its going to confirm that HF is mafia 100%.

So mafia are forced to either NK damdred or skynx.

Anything else is going to help town catch more scum.

Now that I've said this... of course mafia are going to shoot one of Skynx/Damdred...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 22:25 GMT
#2442
Hey look the guy that doesn't care and had no reads magiced up some reads :D:D:D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 22:28 GMT
#2443
And it's also pretty terrible, would you look at that!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 03 2017 22:35 GMT
#2444
Our best option is to nolynch.
Our second best option is to lynch holyflare.

Anything else is going to be a 50/50 to me right now.
There might be some more connections if you dig deeper, but right now I gotta sleep.

If anyone has any suggestions for who the 2 mafia are of these 4, then please share.
I'd like us to try solve this tomorrow.

TW.
Onegu.
LS.
Oats.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 22:42 GMT
#2445
The best you can come up with is that maybe mafia is within 5 people because another 2 made basic alignment statements :D :D :D
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2017 23:34 GMT
#2446
On September 04 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
onegu and oats are mega associated though. it is the only reason i can think of why oats is totally ok with onegu making empty promises, not doing shit, and afk voting every cycle.



I havent afk'd
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 03 2017 23:35 GMT
#2447
I also followed up my promise with reads...
Try TL Mafia!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 23:50 GMT
#2448
On September 02 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
Right now I feel like this is my status quo:

Mafia: HF/TW.

Town: Oats, Onegu.

Townish: Damdred.

Scummish: LS

Null: Skynx


Let us not forget.

On September 03 2017 21:53 ruXxar wrote:
What changed HF.
We are the the same situation today as we were yesterday.
Why do you suddenly not want to no-lynch when you so strongly wanted to yesterday?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2017 23:51 GMT
#2449
It's almost comical. Absolutely nothing has changed in his words but yet his reads are just opportunistic bull shittery.

And some people still don't want to lynch him right now :D
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 00:11 GMT
#2450
Why so desperate HF?

We're about to bust your scum team, and all you can do is try to end the game before its too late.

No wonder you dont want to no-lynch.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2017 00:35 GMT
#2451

Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.


We could both be town.

TMI???!?
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 00:59 GMT
#2452
On September 04 2017 09:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +

Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.


We could both be town.

TMI???!?


If you are both town, then where is the third mafia?

I don't think onegu and LS are a team, which means it's either skynx or damdred.

If you put a gun to my head and made me pick between damdred and skynx as scum, I would pick damdred.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 01:07 GMT
#2453
If damdred is scum then LS is 100% scum too.
The association between them is super strong.
Just look at their last filter posts and how they interact with each other.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 01:21 GMT
#2454
If we assume that oats and TW are town
it means that the mafia team is exactly HF, damdred, LS.

So that is currently one possibility.

I think that a damdred/LS team makes more sense than a LS +tw/oats team.

I feel like oats has been very independent, had a lot of head strong thoughts and not really fitting in with a team.
I have a hard time fitting oats in a team.

Oats/onegu works from the side of onegu super town reading oats.

But from oats side he really doesn't like that onegu is town reading him so hard.

Damdred/onegu team doesn't work. Damdred hated onegus list post.

Ls/onegu doesn't work.theyre scum reading each other hard.

TW/LS seems like it shouldn't really be a team either.

Hmmf.
I feel like the solution is right in front of us, we just need to figure it out.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
September 04 2017 01:31 GMT
#2455
Like, just removing 1 person from the equation is going to confirm so much information for us.

It's so easy to see why mafia didn't shoot anyone.
We are so close to figuring it out.
They are super scared right now.

With one more night kill we should have a really easy time solving the game.

The reason mafia didn't shoot anyone is because it's bad for them.

If it was good for mafia to shoot someone, they would have done it.

What we need to do is pressure mafia into shooting.
They don't want to, but they will be forced to do so if they don't want a draw.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2017 01:58 GMT
#2456
On September 04 2017 09:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2017 09:35 Oatsmaster wrote:

Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.


We could both be town.

TMI???!?


If you are both town, then where is the third mafia?

I don't think onegu and LS are a team, which means it's either skynx or damdred.

If you put a gun to my head and made me pick between damdred and skynx as scum, I would pick damdred.

You quoted the post that damdred said and all he said was that we werent mafai together. Then you take that and TMI it into 1 mafia between me and TW
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 04 2017 01:59 GMT
#2457
On September 04 2017 10:31 ruXxar wrote:

They don't want to, but they will be forced to do so if they don't want a draw.

Thats not how it works
generally in stalemates the team that does their action more recently isnt the one that has to do it again.

So since there was a nightkill more recently than a lynch, the mafia team isnt forced to do anything.
No gg, No skill.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 04 2017 05:16 GMT
#2458
On September 04 2017 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
The only way a mafia ruxxar can survive is to perpetuate the uncertainty on me.

Just look at his interactions with me today. Doesn't even call me mafia. Stark contrast to HOLYFLARE IS CONFIRMED WITH RAYN, no?

if needed i can take you both to lylo and figure it out then, but i see no reason to not go with the safest lynch each day
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 04 2017 05:20 GMT
#2459
you know what i just read ruxxar's new batch of posts and idc anymore. if he is town he has played so so bad
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 04 2017 05:54 GMT
#2460
On September 04 2017 09:11 ruXxar wrote:
Why so desperate HF?

We're about to bust your scum team, and all you can do is try to end the game before its too late.

No wonder you dont want to no-lynch.


It's not desperate. It's just highlighting the massive obvious discrepancies between what you've actually said and what you're now saying when you're backed into a corner. Nothing is more obvious to me than you being mafia.
Prev 1 121 122 123 124 125 131 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
14:00
Playoffs Day 1/2
Bonyth vs TerrOr
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
XuanXuan vs TBD
ZZZero.O149
LiquipediaDiscussion
Maestros of the Game
12:30
Offline Playoffs
Maru vs SerralLIVE!
herO vs TBD
ComeBackTV 3519
WardiTV2011
RotterdaM1822
IntoTheiNu 1478
Ryung 1082
TaKeTV 744
SHIN 325
Rex311
IndyStarCraft 309
SteadfastSC300
BRAT_OK 224
EnkiAlexander 129
CosmosSc2 102
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1822
Ryung 1082
SHIN 325
Rex 311
IndyStarCraft 309
SteadfastSC 300
BRAT_OK 224
CosmosSc2 102
ZombieGrub78
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39012
Horang2 3661
Jaedong 1771
EffOrt 1487
BeSt 979
actioN 595
ggaemo 390
ZZZero.O 149
Leta 128
Mong 112
[ Show more ]
Sharp 100
Pusan 80
Movie 74
Hyun 61
sorry 57
Hm[arnc] 33
Aegong 24
sSak 22
Rock 22
yabsab 21
GoRush 19
Sacsri 16
Dota 2
qojqva1989
syndereN321
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps942
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor478
Other Games
singsing3967
B2W.Neo1385
Lowko380
byalli348
crisheroes328
Hui .229
XaKoH 160
KnowMe120
XcaliburYe87
Trikslyr20
fpsfer 2
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10572
Other Games
EGCTV1196
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 51
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 78
• Response 8
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 7
• FirePhoenix4
• Pr0nogo 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• Shiphtur137
Upcoming Events
Douyu Cup 2020
13h 51m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
22h 51m
Mihu vs TBD
Online Event
23h 51m
RSL Revival
1d 10h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 19h
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Bombastic Starleague
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Bombastic Starleague
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.