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this appears to not be obs qt. instructions unclear. dick got stuck in mixer. i was semi-ish following the game a bit. some specific filters i should look at asapish, or is it cool if i go over shit again tomorrow? dont have like real reads atm. was hoping to wait and see who'll turn out to be scum when the game ends. xD | ||
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copcake is all over the place, but in my head she feels more similar to the cccp game than the game where rels, cake, me where scum. thought that is ages ago. | ||
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wouldnt it make more sense for me to do reads on slots that are not myself? | ||
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On August 17 2017 05:33 rsoultin wrote: Day 1 Elimination Final Vote Count raynpelikoneet (2): Fecalfeast (5): geript, Holyflare, Conversion, Eversince, Hopeless1der Hopeless1der (5): Fecalfeast, Damdred, CopCake, Rels, Tumblewood Not Voting (1): ritoky In Fecalfeast was eliminated from the competition. On August 20 2017 05:32 rsoultin wrote: Day 2 Elimination Final Vote Count ritoky: Jealous (5): Tumblewood, Rels, CopCake, raynpelikoneet, ritoky Rels (6): Jealous, geript, holyflare, Conversion, Eversince, Hopeless1der Not Voting (0): In Rels was eliminated from the competition. both were really close with a lynched town. will read jealous and hopeless filters when i get the time. | ||
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 those were fun. not necessarily liking the rest of his filter. fairly wishy washy. the huge post on hf's gun claim. latest reads are really outdated and had a lot of nulls. though no time to play this weekend. there were some posts towards the end of his filter where he seemed displeased with the judges. didn't feel fake. overall his filter had like a super motivated start and then both commitment and quality start to fall off and that has me super worried. kinda hesitant cause of the pics, but the later pages of his filter have me leaning scum on him. | ||
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On August 21 2017 07:13 ritoky wrote: jealous is town, cuz hf is town, and jealous gave up the chance at himself getting a PR day 1 to ensure that HF and not cop got it. mafia doesn't do this. the rest of his filter pretty irrelevant now that hf is 98% town. hm? what do you mean with gave up the chance? i think ppl just wanted to vote hf for that stuff? maybe i should reread the thread instead filtering ppl. | ||
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On August 21 2017 07:17 ritoky wrote: the vote was 4-4-4 jealous, hf, cop; with only an afk 1gu not voting. jealous unvoted himself and voted hf to ensure hf got the power. oh wow. yeah that is really really really unlikely to come from scum. and was totally not in his filter. think i'll better reread the thread. | ||
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think the game with rels, copcake and me and n a scum team: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501883-pick-your-power-intriguing also had kitaman on board. and yes i should have double checked ritoky's 4-4-4 thing. would like him to explain/quote where he got that from. currently in the process of rereading the game and taking notes. currently on page 38. willpost reeds when i have a better grasp on the game. | ||
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3-4-2 2-5-2 2-4-3 2-5-2 2-5-3 2-5-4 3-5-4 and then jealous made it: 2-6-4 not seeing a 4-4-4 here | ||
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ppl i like the least so far: h1 and tw. ppl i like the most so far: hf and geript. have a lot of notes on conv. tldr: real bad d1.1, but did get better d1.2 have to charge phone battery. | ||
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On August 22 2017 02:36 ritoky wrote: hf why you voting conv? to protest? i think it may be bolded part here: On August 22 2017 02:17 Holyflare wrote: I'm not trying to clear myself, I'm trying to get reads off of other people since I'm correct and they're wrong. When on earth did I lie about rayn being mod confirmed? I genuinely believed it at the time. Town not winning? No shit. We've had 1 cycle of all likely town people that nobody wanted and another that could ALSO be all town. None of those lynches are what I wanted as a primary lynch and this is why the game is shit. I would have lynched tw day one because that clears up at least two people's alignments (yours and rayn's). I would have used that info to determine the rest of the town's motives because then hopeless wouldn't be able to fall back on that being his only read, geript too. But no, we're stuck here in this shitty endless loop where the actual lynch people wanted hasn't been up for two cycles. I don't work on imperfect information. My skill as a town player is working on lynch information and nks that we just don't have. (nks suggest mafia team that doesn't know me). None of these are actually reasons to scum read anybody, let alone only be "15% wrong". I think this read is extremely fabricated. though i was about to ask too. cause atm i am at geript > conv > copcake but am "only" at page 92 so far. just got home. gimme some time to eat etc | ||
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On August 22 2017 03:43 Conversion wrote: I mean my death would mean that Jealous actually has to do something besides sitting on his one read on me idk why everyone is ignoring Hopeless, but he still hasn't answered mine and some other people's questions on his list (and him putting me on a kill list and randomly after saying I'm unconfirmed town lean) I don't care if you all think HF dying is the best option here, I disagree with that and I transparently put out what I was going to do if I won the power you are a town lean. h1 is scum. i now understand that checking ritoky makes a lot of sense from a town pov. page 98. | ||
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still is like the best point in his favour since i am not a huge fan of the filter otherwise. | ||
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but why the fuck _not_ tw and _not_ h1? | ||
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well my notes say that i liked some of hf's posts on rayn early in the game. e.g. post #685, which is that one: On August 15 2017 22:00 Holyflare wrote: Him picking and choosing super off things to talk about. Like earlier with his Tumblewood bad read but not having a conclusion himself he's now done it again. He scum reads jealous for apparently a REALLLLYYYY obvious inconsistency that's so groundbreaking that jealous somehow miraculously forgot he was wary of myself and copcake (this is the shittest read I've seen in a long time) but he makes absolutely no mention of copcake forgetting her reads at all even though that's arguably FAR more scummy than jealous. Notice how he is also just giving a list and then a reason why one person is scum but never delving, never prying, not being nitpicky as fuck. It's so off base. so i guess ill do the remaining pages and filter rayn and geript tomorrow. | ||
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On August 22 2017 06:03 Conversion wrote: we might have another 4-4-4 situation on our hands at this rate we're at a 2-2-2 now! is there even a case on geript? like i fully understand ppl voting my slot and I can kinda see why ppl would want to vote rayn, but i really dont get the geript votes. | ||
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On August 22 2017 06:07 Conversion wrote: there was something geript mentioned earlier in which the judges should vote 2 townie people and 1 scum in the power up pool, then put up the scum in the lynch pool + 2 others artanis said that can't happen or something, then like 24h earlier clarified it could happen so he is getting bamboozled by his own strategy oh yeah that was like from the very start of the game. though i am really confused why it did happen after artanis said it cant happen... | ||
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"yet" i spend like all day trying to read the game. page 124 and prolly going to bed in a bit. so you have to wait a bit longer. | ||
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On August 22 2017 10:16 CopCake wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 15 2017 13:02 geript wrote: 1. What contribution do you think he has actually added to the game? 2. Two of those judges are Koshi and Vivax; who to be honest, their reads are maybe accurate as mine are. Koshi is a troll half the time and Vivax is a fucking wild card at best. Neither of those guys are that strong at actually analyzing townreads IMO. 3. At least two of those judges hold grudges imo. 4. Those judges had 24 hours to pick 3 people; they're kinda on a stricter time crunch and had less to evaluate them on. They chose pretty obvious HF and two fucking wild cards. Koshi often gives no fucks when he actually plays games; putting him in a semi-obs position I don't think is going to get him that much more involved. 5. I'm actually interested in their Copcake read. That and I want to reread her, HF, and Damdred. 6. I'm still fucking salty they didn't pick me. For TW and Conversion only, maybe Disfo if he appears. + Show Spoiler + Here Geript says that HF is obvious town but then he needs to re read him? Is that normal or? mh. its hf, not too uncommon for ppl to have paranoia when it comes to that guy. that beong said the wording is odd indeed and if i had to guess he also didnt reread him at all? also not sure if i want to know what rayn had to drink last night or not, but his latest posts make me feel better about voting him. i also did take a look at the rule notification by art at the beginning of the game, when geript and rayn where talking about mechanics. it means that the judges thought he was town when they nominated him for the power up, but during that phase something happened that made them change their minds. maybe because geript got a ton of votes? i also think from an overall game perspective it makes sense that someone in ritoky/hf/geript/rayn is scum. cause if all of them are towb, how isnt the game solved already? even with ritoky being super underwhelming nearly all game and the judges having some different reads than the thread. | ||
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maybe the judges just have godly reads. like i can see rayn, cause he basically only had the "confirm" and voting himself going. geript confuses me cause he had a bunch of reads/posts i liked. | ||
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i really didnt like his d1 and i thought there were a lot of good points against him in thread. e.g. i liked a d1 case from you on him. but zhe judges seem to like him. would h1 make sense? had a point where i thought he had a fairly town tone, but then he got so hostile i thought he was trying to tilt ppl on purpose. also has been fairly under zhe radar after he was up for lunch d1. | ||
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i told you to post endgame later cause i wantrd to try and do a baby seal in paint when ill get home later...  now im sad | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:46 Koshi wrote: Yes. You have another mafia loss on your record. was more asking cause of the poll. dont really care about my scim winrate. only care about my "never was misslynched as twon" thing. :p until i fibslly get ml as toqn that is. | ||
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town winrate also decreasing. think the transition to working full time difnt affect my game in a positive manner. maybe i should request a coach next game. *shrugs* | ||
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On August 22 2017 20:06 Superbia wrote: Fwiw I didn't read your posts whatsoever. You were there bc your slot was scummy + PoE. hehe. yeah saw that. koshi also said my posts arent bad or townish or whatever. just dont think i would have been able to salvage this game esp. given the track record of the slot i replaced into. just musing about my general winrate decline in more recent games. | ||
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10/10 game, would replace into that again. *cough* okay more serious like: as i said in scum qt: setup was really really dependant on the judges being good and a lack of interaction with them can make it really hard/frustrating for either town and/or scum. def a cool idea though. a bit sad about the ragey posts, there were a few in there that were really bad. | ||
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On August 22 2017 22:40 rsoultin wrote: yeeeeaahhh...we made a mistake. namely, we were dealing with a separate issue when hf asked about rb notification on the shot, and did not have the context for hf's question. the concession felt highly emotional to me on the back of that announcement in-thread i by no means think that there was any form of inevitability to the scum loss this game. reads change. who assumes that the lynch pool was all mafia anyway? one more mislynch and judges are out and town loses lynching tumble because only the judges had a good read on him. but i understand the reaction to the rb notification *in b4 geript/rayn come back with how imbalanced the game was lol >> i agree we could have balanced it better but no, i don't think the setup was the reason for your loss, or the reason for the bad position some of you were in onegu/eversince did nothing for their slot rayn got caught out early. not setup related at all both rayn and geript showed major face on d2...ritoky's analysis was sexy that's gameplay, not setup. the setup probably didn't help...but i wouldn't blame it entirely on that oh fml. i did forget that the judges would be gone in lylo/mylo/whatevs. | ||
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On August 22 2017 23:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Did you even read what i wrote to you on skype? Alright, it is good to know telling someone to go choke on bag of dicks or burn and die is alright and you shouldnt get upset about it. I will remember that next time. i was super surprised there was no modkill for that post. | ||
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he got way better later in the game though i have to admit/agree to that. he is kinda hard to interact with though, cause he kinda just posts his reads and gtfos then. kinda wish i could play a bit more like him, but i feel i need to validate/confirm my reads by bouncing them off other ppl, because i dont trust myself that much. or sonething like that xD | ||
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while i go all freaked and stressed out. though when i think he is having _too_ much fun i am getting massive paranoia... cause of that koshi/hf/palmar scum game... =D | ||
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though i guess i also have some probs wuth my town game that make it harder to fake stuff as scum. and i really need zo stop being a huge effort monster as either alignment, cause that burns me out fairly hard since i alsi work nowadays as either alignment. kinda miss my student life | ||
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