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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 13:02 GMT
#1601
I mean that's what I was going for in my head? whether it looks that way or not I don't really care. that was what I was thinking when I made that post-- "why did I think Hopeless looked like he was screaming I AM MAFIA TRYING HARD"

I attribute most of his posts after that more townie than not (geript mentioned the push on FF is not as weak as I thought it was so I re-evaluated that)
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 13:03 GMT
#1602
also 4:30 EDT was EOD so I'm pretty sure I was in a last minute meeting and generally don't like making a last minute vote-switch without information, so take it as you will

BBL, going into work
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:03 GMT
#1603
Okey dokey
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:23 GMT
#1604
Okay so:

Again, why is Conversion interested in Rels here (over Onegu for example). I think ritoky makes a good point, same i thing i asked from Conversion and he misrepresented what happened (or didn't understand my question), and got mad???

In the next post he explains why, but i am not really sure if i buy the explanation. Also why am i town? If i was doing something so stupid earlier, why does he think i am town?

Regarding Rels, this is what i found earlier this morning:
in my head, the best possible action as town isn't to just say "lynch afkers," it's to find who the scummiest is on your list and pressure them to slip or keep posting until they look scummy

Okay, Conversion, for any reason, wants to pressure Rels to play. Why does he then say, if rels doesn't play we shouldn't be pressuring him, and instead calls out someone (hopeless) here for wanting to do what he earlier wanted to do -- voting or wanitng to lynch someone who doesn't play is usually the best course of action, if you otherwise can't convince them to play. i don't even know what the last "...keep posting until they look scummy" means? Can someone with better english explain that to me. Basically:
- Conversion wants Rels to play and pressures him (but not other people who don't want to play) -> hopeless wants to lynch Rels (because Rels is not playing) -> Conversion finds this course of action scummy??

The one thing i like is his point or geript. I don't know if it makes geript mafia but it is a decent point.

Then on me:
On August 16 2017 20:48 Conversion wrote:
also I really don't like that a train formed on rayn with barely any discussion

I'm taking my vote on him

Especially how Conversion acts towards me, i think he is just calling off people without really calling them out. I felt that way when people thought i am mafia, and he didn't take any part of that discussion, and "called me out" for something else. Especially for newer mafia players this is quite usual behavior, you get to have a reason to vote for someone but you didn't really call them scum, you just "pointed something out". Then he takes his vote off me. why? Because "too many people are voting for rayn"? Who were those people whose votes are inconsistent in his mind? I dont remember what was the votecount at that time, but like... It doesn't work that way because if i am mafia, even if there are 10 votes on me i can still easily be mafia, and the only reason he represents is that "this wagon formed too quickly". And yes i know townies do use that kinda shit logic too but the fact that he is clearly scared to sheep opinions and thinks he must always form his own (even when there is no reason to and it is perfectly fine to sheep someone) is more likely to come from mafia, that's what i think.

Fuck geript even said that lol Double town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:24 GMT
#1605
On August 17 2017 04:04 Rels wrote:
lol I didn't think anything about any of FF posts. Then I read this very last one in his filter. It's pretty townie. Especially given than from my experience FF is a no-risk scum player => so if HF is town I dunno why he would risk making him mad with that post.
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 00:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm also becoming suspicious that HF and rayn are both mafia and hf is just trying to 'confirm' mafia rayn town.

Where did this tinfoil hat come from


On August 17 2017 04:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 05:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
I was about to say geript lol..

I'm voting jealous. I dont trust HF yet and cake just pulled some shit at the end of the day there.

I feel like having legit drawings was a requirement at this point.

lul maybe TMI on HF being town

On August 17 2017 04:18 Rels wrote:
##Vote Hopeless1der
Dont really think he's scum, but more than rayn and FF for sure.

This dude is scum though.
Gives reasons why FF / hopeless are mafia -> says they are town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:26 GMT
#1606
Well not really on FF but the post on FF doesn't make any sense at all.
I don't know what this makes him -> then he reads a post -> makes a conclusion FF is town because "if HF is town, then..".
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:26 GMT
#1607
Yes rels is obviously mafia lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:28 GMT
#1608
I don't think conversion's stance towards you is really thst scummy. You were confirmed town and everyone jumped on you for a reason that I'm still not sure about? They didn't even discuss about hopeless or ff, just voted you and afkd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:29 GMT
#1609
On August 15 2017 22:09 Conversion wrote:
my read on rayn is null b/c cop said give him some time

in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has

basically play better than me at the very least, which I can't say confidently he is doing

Like look at this. Then i am the worst lynch because "wagon formed too quickly"....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:30 GMT
#1610
On August 17 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think conversion's stance towards you is really thst scummy. You were confirmed town and everyone jumped on you for a reason that I'm still not sure about? They didn't even discuss about hopeless or ff, just voted you and afkd.

I know they did but if Conversion thinks i am mafia why should he care? Like i said there are probably 10 townies and 3 mafia in this game. Did his other scumreads jump on me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:33 GMT
#1611
On August 16 2017 03:19 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 03:09 CopCake wrote:
On August 16 2017 02:14 Conversion wrote:
On August 16 2017 02:10 CopCake wrote:
That angry rayn is so town ._. But I am alone in that


Can I get your thoughts on Rels?


I guess this is the question

I havent played with Rels in a looooooonnnnnggggg time, and I think it was only on voicemafia if I did. Last game he was scum and hided in a very friendly attitude and after night 1 with 3 townie killed he said "I feel depressed" and dissapeared. Apparently his meta is not to be here on day 1 but I wonder if he actually knows the game started because it has been more than 24 hrs he hasnt been here.

Hell he could even forgot the game is here, I honestly doubt someone like Rels would ignore the game on purpouse as mafia because I consider him to be honorable regardles of aligment.


Okay. since there are no modkills in this game, how do you propose we deal with someone like Rels? since he might be more town than not, should we just ignore him?

You lynch them. You definitely don't call people out for wanting to lynch them.
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 13:33 GMT
#1612
On August 17 2017 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:09 Conversion wrote:
my read on rayn is null b/c cop said give him some time

in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has

basically play better than me at the very least, which I can't say confidently he is doing

Like look at this. Then i am the worst lynch because "wagon formed too quickly"....


I took my vote off you b/c it was a spite vote. there was no reasoning behind it, it was a direct emotional I'm gonna lynch rayn because of the argument we had

I didn't like your train because it formed within like the first hour or whatever of lynch votes coming off, + buying into HF's discussion on why you're town

also I don't sheep other people's reads because I've done it in the past two games and it's gotten me nowhere in terms of developing my own reads of people, which is why I'm actively avoiding it this game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:34 GMT
#1613
Don't sheep reads.

I sheeped hf's read on you.

:D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:35 GMT
#1614
On August 17 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think conversion's stance towards you is really thst scummy. You were confirmed town and everyone jumped on you for a reason that I'm still not sure about? They didn't even discuss about hopeless or ff, just voted you and afkd.

I know they did but if Conversion thinks i am mafia why should he care? Like i said there are probably 10 townies and 3 mafia in this game. Did his other scumreads jump on me?


You just linked a post where he called you null? Does he say you're mafia?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 13:35 GMT
#1615
On August 17 2017 22:34 Holyflare wrote:
Don't sheep reads.

I sheeped hf's read on you.

:D


it was a culmination of people jumping on rayn without an explanation, AFKing, and you explaining that rayn said mod actions can't be lied about or something
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:40 GMT
#1616
On August 17 2017 22:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 17 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think conversion's stance towards you is really thst scummy. You were confirmed town and everyone jumped on you for a reason that I'm still not sure about? They didn't even discuss about hopeless or ff, just voted you and afkd.

I know they did but if Conversion thinks i am mafia why should he care? Like i said there are probably 10 townies and 3 mafia in this game. Did his other scumreads jump on me?


You just linked a post where he called you null? Does he say you're mafia?

Did he? not literally. But what do you think this line says then:
in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has

Did i? What do you think his conclusion should be? At the time, when he took his vote off he said NOTHING about any confirmed town thing, he just said "the wagon formed too quickly".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:41 GMT
#1617
Who was the other dude who ended up on on by the EoD?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:42 GMT
#1618
EBWOP: on me, besides myself
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:46 GMT
#1619
Holyflare can we make a deal. I will treat you as confirmed town as long as i am alive. If you haven't lynched mafia until LYLO you die. Is that okay?

I mean, i think you're probably the best person to solve this game if you are in fact town, and you can live forever if we decide so. I am okay treating this game as "1-man mafia" and in the end i can sheep you if you so choose at the EoD.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 13:47 GMT
#1620
And you will lose your roleblocks then as mafia if you are one.
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