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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 12:22 GMT
#1581
Why is conversion town? Or is he in your opinion? Rels can die for all i care.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:25 GMT
#1582
On August 17 2017 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. That makes more sense on TW. I forgot he had hopeless as possible mafia earlier. The tmi point isnt good though. I know i would have made the same thing as town when you called Koshi mafia or 3rd party when i was mafia.

Maybe i am wrong and he is scum. I can agree to the FF thing.


I mean that's not what happened at all. Below is what happened.

On August 17 2017 18:58 Holyflare wrote:
Tw's progression is:

Hopeless must be town for this post => votes hopeless => let me read hopeless' filter in 3 minutes => i like this post => hopeless is in a scum list

Does he talk about ff being his top town read anywhere? I can't remember much if anything.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 12:25 GMT
#1583
Btw cake is town because she is actually posting at 3am.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:26 GMT
#1584
You know that thing you complained about 90% of day 1 where you say you're not Tumblewood and just because you do something doesn't mean Tumblewood should think the same?

Why aren't you applying that ever? Tumblewood isn't that guy. Him delving on the tmi meta crap isn't like him. Anecdotally speaking at least.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 12:27 GMT
#1585
On August 17 2017 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. That makes more sense on TW. I forgot he had hopeless as possible mafia earlier. The tmi point isnt good though. I know i would have made the same thing as town when you called Koshi mafia or 3rd party when i was mafia.

Maybe i am wrong and he is scum. I can agree to the FF thing.


I mean that's not what happened at all. Below is what happened.

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 18:58 Holyflare wrote:
Tw's progression is:

Hopeless must be town for this post => votes hopeless => let me read hopeless' filter in 3 minutes => i like this post => hopeless is in a scum list

Does he talk about ff being his top town read anywhere? I can't remember much if anything.


Yeah okay it still makes sense. I am sorry i read the wholw thing in parts during work.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:27 GMT
#1586
On August 17 2017 21:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is conversion town? Or is he in your opinion? Rels can die for all i care.


Game was dead, he was looking bad. He came in with some hard hitting scum hunting and was the only one to give a shit.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 12:30 GMT
#1587
I have a food break on ~30mins. O try to get on computer there.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 17 2017 12:32 GMT
#1588
Could you do me a favor and point out wjere rhis conversion tging atarts?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:42 GMT
#1589
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=62

And his argument with you felt towny whenever that was.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 12:45 GMT
#1590
I blame hf for all of my troubles including Russian troubles.

Rip
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 12:50 GMT
#1591
On August 17 2017 04:40 Conversion wrote:
I'm about to switch to hopeless just from that last post alone. wtf was that LOL


@conversion, what happened with this exactly?

You even lament that rayn is going to be lynched and never switch your vote after saying you will.

I know the ff thing you will point to but that was later than your rayn point and you wanting tonseitch to hopeless?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:52 GMT
#1592
On August 17 2017 21:50 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 04:40 Conversion wrote:
I'm about to switch to hopeless just from that last post alone. wtf was that LOL


@conversion, what happened with this exactly?

You even lament that rayn is going to be lynched and never switch your vote after saying you will.

I know the ff thing you will point to but that was later than your rayn point and you wanting tonseitch to hopeless?


Did he vote hopeless?

Conv why didn't you vote hopeless all day with your early case on him?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 12:55 GMT
#1593
didn't feel good about hopeless flipping scum, and I had more faith that I can read him better depending on his behavior so I left my vote on FF

that's all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 12:57 GMT
#1594
TBH I don't think any of that pool was overwhelmingly mafia, my case on him earlier was just responding to ritoky asking me why I felt that way at that point in the game

both of them gave pretty shitty answers, FF just looked worse because he wanted to pop in and give me a cheeky ass answer while hopeless just lul voteswitched. also no one was giving input, so I didn't want to escalate another shitfest like I did with rayn earlier
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 12:58 GMT
#1595
On August 17 2017 21:55 Conversion wrote:
didn't feel good about hopeless flipping scum, and I had more faith that I can read him better depending on his behavior so I left my vote on FF

that's all


Why did you not feel good about it when it was a case you made at the beginning of the phase?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 12:59 GMT
#1596
anyways I woke up late and am rushing to work. caught up on the thread

I'll filter dive/make bigger posts later but I don't like Jealous making a big post of nothing on HF's hypothetical gun

still don't like Rels and honestly think he should be lynched/vig'd just from his inactivity alone

getting weird vibes about Eversince (stronger than what I found scummy about hopeless)

hopeless still AFKing
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 12:59 GMT
#1597
On August 17 2017 21:57 Conversion wrote:
TBH I don't think any of that pool was overwhelmingly mafia, my case on him earlier was just responding to ritoky asking me why I felt that way at that point in the game

both of them gave pretty shitty answers, FF just looked worse because he wanted to pop in and give me a cheeky ass answer while hopeless just lul voteswitched. also no one was giving input, so I didn't want to escalate another shitfest like I did with rayn earlier

Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 17 2017 12:59 GMT
#1598
On August 16 2017 05:00 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 21:45 Conversion wrote:
On August 15 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 21:39 Conversion wrote:
too little time to actually read through filters atm so I'll give a dumb list like y'all

null:
everyone not on my second list

scummy:
HF if he lives past N1 and I get lynched and I flip town
Hopeless1der


So I'm town the :D :D

Why hopeless?


I'm reading his filter and honestly his pushes seem weak at best and forced. deflects my question (like if ur a good town all u have to do is answer me and wave me off, it's not hard).

nothing in his filter screams I AM TOWN and screams I AM MAFIA TRYING HARD

not going to overwhelmingly call him scum b/c I misread town play as scum (see: newbie mafia) so someone can convince me that's not the case if they want to


I am interested in which posts made you think this and why.

Also why rels as the subject of afk discussion but not 1gu? Did you feel like people were deflecting off of rels or uncharacteristically avoiding him compared to gu?

Also, I don't have a distinct impression of who you think is town from your filter, so who is town?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:00 GMT
#1599
On August 16 2017 20:44 Conversion wrote:
in terms of hopeless on why he's trying too hard, his first list is what really tipped me off

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
welp lets get things off to a terrible start:

rayn - Townish
ritoky - null
geript - townish
damdred - scummish
tumblewood - scum
fecalfeast - scummish
conversion scummish
onegu - lurker
rels - lurker
hopeless - uhh..town?


like, what does this list do? he basically took the entire pool of players that aren't up for top3 and made a list that doesn't say anything aside from "yeah maybe town or maybe scum" that reeks of trying to look like someone's putting in effort while not.

especially when his next followup wasn't pushing scum, but rather saying get rid of the lurkers. in my head, the best possible action as town isn't to just say "lynch afkers," it's to find who the scummiest is on your list and pressure them to slip or keep posting until they look scummy

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.


FF calls him out on that exact point, and his response wasn't great

like his entire filter is sort of just like weak pressure, then back off. disagrees with a bunch of people, but doesn't make any actions to move ahead with what he thinks at all. the strongest he's pushed back on someone is probably rayn or FF, and even then it's not really a line of "are you scum" questioning

shruug


On August 16 2017 20:49 Conversion wrote:
off him* woops.

yah HF I agree, but the list clearly shows there were people in the game he thought were scummy, but he didn't do ANYTHING to push them. he talked to Copcake for awhile, and he has a quote somewhere saying he'd rather off inactives than conv/damd/someone else tier players, so he clearly thought some people were playing like shit

so why not talk to them or pressure them to post in the thread? he didn't even mention me after that until I posted him asking him about his list and telling him to explain his vote like he did to FF


I mean this doesn't look like what you're saying "just responding to ritoky"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:01 GMT
#1600
Like even if it's a response this looks like a scum read that you're sticking to?
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