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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 09:34 GMT
#2295
I also didn't want to share the read because:

A) wanted more info from people
B) wanted mafia to think i was always gonna take a vest
C) shenanigans

But honestly i don't care if I'm shot anymore I'm just really bored. I've submitted a vest for this night cycle so that I can safely receive a gun and shoot whoever we agree on and I'll be alive to talk about it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 09:41 GMT
#2309
On August 18 2017 07:49 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 07:39 CopCake wrote:
On August 18 2017 07:36 ritoky wrote:
On August 18 2017 06:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 18 2017 05:58 ritoky wrote:
do my posts sound ragey? serious question, a great deal of my posts are sarcasm or tongue in cheek or intentionally hyperbolic for humor. maybe i am an ineffective communicator


You have multiple personalities.


not really, i am just open with my emotional state; it's part of what makes me easy to read as town. as mafia i only have calm and angry as emotional possibilities.


Those are the ones you have been.


But why would mafia Ritoky afk for like 50 hours, come back, no reads, not read anything, the only reason it's not some huge "I'm mafia pls lynch" is that it's completely honest and I can't imagine the mafia team that sits back and lets that happen?

Despite the fact you're throwing dirt at me I don't think your mafia either. Just no clear direction. I've got a busy schedule that I don't like to use as an excuse for absence. What else makes me mafia?


Looked kind of out of place knowing ritoky is likely town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 09:51 GMT
#2321
On August 19 2017 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fucking fuck i am gonna quote something


Me too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 09:52 GMT
#2322
On August 19 2017 18:51 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2017 18:43 CopCake wrote:
You all this game you have claimed to know me rayn and you have been doing quite the opposite, in fact you should know I "tone read" and I notice "Things people dont see" you know that is my game. You also should know "chaos" is my mafia game, to do strange things is my favorite thing and you know I love to be mafia even more than town so tell me besides my "I forgot I wanted to lynch ritoki" what else makes me mafia?

That's not what i said.

I said you made a leap on logic you are unwilling to explain. If you don't believe me, go read what i said again.


Ok, if you are town you are going to listen to me.

- Cake thinks Ritoki is mafia because he is mad for the clock thing

- Cake then says She would lynch Ritoki

- Ritoki confronts her

- Cake Thinks Ritoki is mafia but her top mafia read is Ritoki, I said he lied.

- Ritoki brings the post of "If i would lynch someone I would lynch Ritoki"

How is that hard to understand? If Ritoki could understand why cant you?



You scum read ritoky for the clock thing but then in your filter reading of him you say he's town because of his emotions and the clock thing.

Why has it changed?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 09:54 GMT
#2323
On August 19 2017 11:32 CopCake wrote:
Short Summary: Ritoki is a strange player. Since the beginning of the game he has had several phases from anger from a small thing (For getting a clock as his character) to being extremely emotional and sad, to hippie love and peace to not caring. When you have passion and have so several mood changes is because you are interested in the game (MY OPINION)

So let's start this Journey of RITOKI. The bolded parts are the ones I find Scummy

+ Show Spoiler +


1.- His first interaction was with Koshi for being a Judge.

2.- He then interacts with Jealous (Suspicious)

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 14 2017 06:49 ritoky wrote:
normally i like people who tell other people to go fuck themselves in the face of pressure and find it to be a town trait. but jealous consciously took the time to write his name in green on his shirt. i feel like taking the time to consciously communicate your alignment color via color in a drawing wouldn't be at the forefront of the mind of a townie. so he is whatever mafia is called this game.



3.- His next interaction is Ritoki vs Cake for the clock thing

4.- He then fights with TW for the NAI Cake read of Rayn.

5.- He went off topic with the Madoka thing.

6.- He started to put excuses for being absent and saying he is extremely busy.

7.- He makes this posts that I don't find bad.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 14 2017 15:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 15:42 geript wrote:
Do you think it's fair to read Jealous as if he were Chez? Do you think TW looks off? Also, why were you so "mad but not mad" about being called ticktock?


idk who jealous is so i have no context on that. tw is being a demolitionist so far, not a builder. wow it's great that you shit on other people's reads, but you have no alternatives or don't try to get the ball really rolling. so if that is what "off" means to you, that is what tumblewood is to me. if he magically flipped mafia i wouldn't be surprised. the clock thing was partly joking, but partly actually being hurt. i feel like i got everyone else's on some level or they were clever or cute....and i am a fucking clock with a misspelled name....dunno, was just sad


Ok, here he finds TW to be super scummy, understandable because I did too and admits he doesn't know jealous.

8.- OK IS RITOKI A DOCTOR? if so that would explain his lack of participation.

9.- Ritoki is firm that Geript is town and TW is mafia.

10.- WE HAVE A DAMDRED JEWEL HERE. (It doesn't point out to Ritoki, it points out to Geript)
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 15 2017 03:35 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 03:29 Damdred wrote:
Geript will never be town to me ritoky, our trust is broken.


why?



11.- He continues to town read Geript and Hopeless.

12.- These posts feels town

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2017 10:27 ritoky wrote:
i feel literal nothing about way too many people in this game. maybe it is because i am not directly empowered to lynch, maybe it was because i was nagged into playing and i am not mentally invested....dunno. i just haven't read very much of anything compelling in the thread. and i realize i have done basically nothing to make a substantial difference either, but it is all pretty bleh.


On August 15 2017 10:34 ritoky wrote:
i think geript is town for angle shooting, i think hopeless is town for being a ball buster and that's pretty much it. i wouldn't be surprised if TW is mafia for how he came out of the blocks tearing ppl's opinions down and not trying to build anything up but i am not sold on that. the whole shit surrounding rayn is a pile of nothing to me. ff's read on hopeless is lazy, nitpicky, and a stretch. i don't understand basically anything copcake types and it seems like she is in a different reality. and there's a guy in the thread who the judges think is town drawing pictures and self-proclaiming dunce which is offputting to me but he is funny which tends to be town indicative. damdred is just floating through like a whispy cloud who doesn't wanna be tied down to reads. it is all just so fucking meh. none of it has me excited.


I dislike his read on Hopeless but everything else seems town.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

If you had to rank them

1 - Most town
2 - Kinda town
3 - Not really town

What's your call?


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.




Here he finds Jealous as super mafia and thinks his drawings are just an act.

On August 16 2017 04:06 ritoky wrote:
rayn seems kinda town to me. i don't know why people are defending jealous' "reads posts". the last picture one was kinda something but the other 2 are just thread/post summary pure and simple. they don't actually have any original thought. still no clue what that makes him, but defending him like he is town jesus over that is lul.


More against Jealous, I am honestly feeling this guy is town.

13.- Here starts Ritoki vs Holyflare because Ritoki defends Rayn.

14.- This is a very honest post after learning Ritoki is a doctor, God Bless you Ritoki ;__;

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 16 2017 04:51 Conversion wrote:
@rayn if you want to actually play the game instead of calling everyone else shit outside of 2 players, please do. I've been lurking around TL mafia and you are one of the more memorable names, so it means I respect your play

if you're going to just fling shit at a wall and try to assume I'm making reads I'm not, you can go choke on a bag of dicks and fuck off

I will say i was shit in case i am wrong but i am not.
You can think otherwise, you can want to lynch me, you can want to lycnh whoever you want. But if you don't lynch HF D1 or D2 you will lose. If you are town that is.

Don't tell me to go choke on a bag of dicks, because you can be fucking sure you will get that bag thrown at your face, i promise you that. I dont care if i am modkilled, i wil just throw it and make sure it hurts, so do not try me, same as Hopeless. I am not in the mood rn...


being serious here after coming off of a rough fucking day the other day, but i hope you get the time over the course of the next day or so to do something you love or to eat one of your favorite foods or some random stranger is kind to you. some times we can't pick ourselves up and need something else to do it for us. i hope you get that to make the world less shitty for you.


15.- This is honest, he always had Jealous as mafia and decided that HF was kinda assholish for the rayn thing.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 16 2017 05:23 ritoky wrote:
voted copcake. just don't trust hf or jealous......somehow i trust copcake more.....it was a bad selection by the judges


16.- THIS IS A VERY STRANGE POST, he always found TW to be mafiosi but suddenly he doesn't cooperate when TW is getting heat

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 18 2017 04:10 ritoky wrote:
yeah! fuck you tumblewood! dunno what we're on about, but every1 is doing it!



17.- Suddenly he forgets that TW and Jealous are his top Mafia. Is ironic because I forgot I wanted to lynch him but the Damdred thing came out of nowhere. Specially when his only interaction with Damdred is that the trust is broken because Damdred doesn't trust Geript.


This is post #1881 page 95
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2017 04:24 ritoky wrote:
i'd lynch damdred.


18.- He then defends TW from Geript because of Geript case.

19.- Ritoki firms in that Damdred is mafia, I don't blame him, I believed that too, HARD.

20.- Firm with Jealous
On August 18 2017 07:48 ritoky wrote:
jealous is never mafia with conversion btw.

big contributions by me.




CONCLUSION AFTER READING THE FILTER:

RITOKI IS TOWN.
[




Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 10:02 GMT
#2335
On August 19 2017 18:59 CopCake wrote:
Also @HF open the spoiler tags I put what I think of Ritoki in each post he made.


Yeh none of what you quoted makes anyone an alignment. Having the same reads all game and being emotional instead would make me think someone is mafia rather than town (which is why I checked him).

Why is it towny to never update a read?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 10:07 GMT
#2340
I'm stuck in a foreign nightmare where people keep explaining things and I just get more confused.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 10:27 GMT
#2352
On August 19 2017 19:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 19:02 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2017 18:59 CopCake wrote:
Also @HF open the spoiler tags I put what I think of Ritoki in each post he made.


Yeh none of what you quoted makes anyone an alignment. Having the same reads all game and being emotional instead would make me think someone is mafia rather than town (which is why I checked him).

Why is it towny to never update a read?


But he always had geript as town and TW as mafia but when TW was getting heated he deffended TW from geript?

He questioned everything, his filter is pretty neutral and ever favored anyone.


No he didn't. The quote you showed isn't a defence at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 10:42 GMT
#2364
This is tedious as fuck.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 10:49 GMT
#2367
For the people who need a translation.

Ritoky states geript is likely town for trying to bend the rules.

Copcake says you can bend the rules as mafia.

Ritoky says he always uses shit metrics to read people. Criticises that Copcake's top scum read is himself because he didn't like the fact that he was a clock.

Copcake responds aggressively saying Ritoky is wrong, damdred is her top scum read. Now that Ritoky said the above he is her new top scum read.

Ritoky shares a quote where Cake says she wants to lynch ritoky above damdred previously.

Cake says she forgot her read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 10:54 GMT
#2369
On August 19 2017 19:50 Jealous wrote:
I tried doing stuff. I really did. Now I don't even have the means to do that so I'm not gonna bust my balls during my vacation catering to judges who make dumb picks 90% of the time and players who look at my scum case and say "eh don't feel like readinf, despite the fact that you have numbered and spoilered direct quotes it's too messy for me," meanwhile rarely putting in a comparable effort. The only player whose play is palatable here is geript so instead of raising myself to her level I'm just going to sink to yours for a few days because y'all beat all the ambition out of me.


I quite clearly read your case and I summarised it and you didn't respond. I simply don't think what you say makes him mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 10:54 GMT
#2370
On August 19 2017 17:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 17:13 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2017 09:42 Jealous wrote:
On August 19 2017 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2017 08:26 Jealous wrote:
Why is pointing out multiple instances of Conversion misrepping not "interesting?"

I said that I found some of his posts scummy, which you can see in my filter analysis image on him. I also said that I found the circumstances surrounding rayn to be more suspicious than FF or H1, which I referenced in the post explaining why I am parking on rayn.


Maybe it's the way you've written it.

Maybe because it spans over pages of back and forth bitching at each other so it makes me not want to read anything you write.

Maybe it's the monotonous nature of this game where I can't really be bothered to care anymore.

Maybe it's the alcohols.

Whoooo knows. All I know is that if you want people to listen to you then you take your spread out points and make one coherent case in a clear manner.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=107#2136

?


If you think this is anything close to understandable then I have to say otherwise.


Ok I properly read it now and I still don't particularly get it. Conversion is scum for saying hopeless hasn't really posted reads when he "has" and also because he gave rayn time but not you.

Is that basically it?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 11:03 GMT
#2371
I mean I don't know what to tell you other than it just wasn't coherently formatted. There was no premise, no bullet pointed reasons but instead just a wall of narrative.

Why does the fact he gave rayn time but not you make him mafia? Why does him saying hopeless isn't elaborating on reads when he has a little make him mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 11:25 GMT
#2374
On August 19 2017 20:09 Jealous wrote:
I'm done beating that horse, I already said everything twice


K you can be in the mafia pile then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 11:26 GMT
#2375
On August 19 2017 20:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 20:09 Jealous wrote:
I'm done beating that horse, I already said everything twice


K you can be in the mafia pile then


Like I don't think you're necessarily mafia but you're making me think that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 14:09 GMT
#2384
On August 19 2017 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
For the people who need a translation.

Ritoky states geript is likely town for trying to bend the rules.

Copcake says you can bend the rules as mafia.

Ritoky says he always uses shit metrics to read people. Criticises that Copcake's top scum read is himself because he didn't like the fact that he was a clock.

Copcake responds aggressively saying Ritoky is wrong, damdred is her top scum read. Now that Ritoky said the above he is her new top scum read.

Ritoky shares a quote where Cake says she wants to lynch ritoky above damdred previously.

Cake says she forgot her read.

idk what this is but iam talking about much simple thing.


This is literally what happened in this game and what you are talking about. This is how the whole "copcake forgot her read started".

Now what about it are you saying that makes copcake mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 14:20 GMT
#2388
On August 19 2017 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 23:09 Holyflare wrote:
On August 19 2017 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 19 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
For the people who need a translation.

Ritoky states geript is likely town for trying to bend the rules.

Copcake says you can bend the rules as mafia.

Ritoky says he always uses shit metrics to read people. Criticises that Copcake's top scum read is himself because he didn't like the fact that he was a clock.

Copcake responds aggressively saying Ritoky is wrong, damdred is her top scum read. Now that Ritoky said the above he is her new top scum read.

Ritoky shares a quote where Cake says she wants to lynch ritoky above damdred previously.

Cake says she forgot her read.

idk what this is but iam talking about much simple thing.


This is literally what happened in this game and what you are talking about. This is how the whole "copcake forgot her read started".

Now what about it are you saying that makes copcake mafia?

I am saying Cake said "ritoky is my top scum". Then said "Damdred was my top scum but now you are (ritoky)". And when asked her answer was that she forgot... Mmmmm.. Your thing has nothing to do with this as far as i can tell, and i don't think that makes her mafia.


Um what on earth are you talking about. That's exactly what is written in my post??

So if that's not what makes her mafia tnen what is?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 14:21 GMT
#2389
On August 19 2017 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, i am literally going to quote you:

This is what you first say:
On August 15 2017 02:45 CopCake wrote:
If I have to lynch someone I think I would lynch Ritoki

Then things happen.
Then you say:
On August 15 2017 05:15 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote:
Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".

It is absurd.

Fucking judge of this thread, not others.


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...




You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.

That doesn't make any sense. Because your "but now you are" happens AFTER you called ritoky top lynch.
you did this:
call ritoky your top lynch -> ritoky does stuff (you find scummy) -> you call ritoky NOW your top lynch because the stuff but Damdred was before.



Yes and her answer was "I forgot".
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 14:22 GMT
#2390
Like that's literally entirely what my post says? Lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2017 14:35 GMT
#2393
I have literally no idea what you're talking about. My post is just chronological.

1. Copcake says she'd lynch ritoky.

2. Ritoky says he does weird reads and points out cop reads him scummy for a weird read.

3. Cop says that's a lie her top scum read is damdred. Now ritoky is mafia for lying.

4. Ritoky points out step 1.

5. Copcake says "oh yeh i forgot".

So why does this make her mafia though?
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