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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 18 2017 23:40 GMT
#2221
On August 19 2017 08:26 Jealous wrote:
Why is pointing out multiple instances of Conversion misrepping not "interesting?"

I said that I found some of his posts scummy, which you can see in my filter analysis image on him. I also said that I found the circumstances surrounding rayn to be more suspicious than FF or H1, which I referenced in the post explaining why I am parking on rayn.


Maybe it's the way you've written it.

Maybe because it spans over pages of back and forth bitching at each other so it makes me not want to read anything you write.

Maybe it's the monotonous nature of this game where I can't really be bothered to care anymore.

Maybe it's the alcohols.

Whoooo knows. All I know is that if you want people to listen to you then you take your spread out points and make one coherent case in a clear manner.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 18 2017 23:41 GMT
#2222
this kid goes "I don't like Conversion's posts/agrees with it" probably because I martyr'd and had a shitshow with rayn, yet he goes and makes a martyr post first when realistically he won't get lynched over Rels, or even ritoky

On August 19 2017 05:53 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 05:43 Tumblewood wrote:
jealous is the best vote by a medium margin

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 05:43 CopCake wrote:
Uhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you Judges!!!!!!!!!

I'm about to leave to catch my plane so I won't be available for quite some time, so in the meantime I just want to make it clear that if I get lynched, look into these two first. And Conversion.



LMAO
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
August 18 2017 23:44 GMT
#2223
... .. ... .. . I want to say as nicely as I can.

Why the fuck can town not lynch most scum on it's mind? Why can town not decide who it wants to lynch/save?! Why is this whole game up to 3 people until fucking lylo and why the hell did I sign up for it.

Fuck figuring this out. I think Rels is mafia. I'll proceed to afk for the next 20 something hours because my opinion doesn't matter.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 18 2017 23:46 GMT
#2224
On August 19 2017 08:44 Eversince wrote:
... .. ... .. . I want to say as nicely as I can.

Why the fuck can town not lynch most scum on it's mind? Why can town not decide who it wants to lynch/save?! Why is this whole game up to 3 people until fucking lylo and why the hell did I sign up for it.

Fuck figuring this out. I think Rels is mafia. I'll proceed to afk for the next 20 something hours because my opinion doesn't matter.


good call on this one I should AFK too because apparently if I post I'm mafia a la Jealous

Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
August 19 2017 00:18 GMT
#2225
Anyone who wants to talk I give you gravious because I have downtime between tonight and tomorrow. Despite my overwhelming desire to tell you'll go jump off an overpass, I will try to stay around tonight while I have free time.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
August 19 2017 00:39 GMT
#2226
On August 19 2017 08:39 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 07:06 Jealous wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:10 Conversion wrote:

now show me exactly where this "latch on" behavior happens and your argument will make sense. I post my thoughts in the thread to be transparent, and you take that as an attack on your play and use words that sound like I did far more than just ask you a simple question

Please stop with the misrep, it's getting comical.

Answer to all your other questions was in my filter, as you said, but since you have this misrep tendency I quoted them for you as well as answered your query here.

Does no one else see this crap?

Conversion: why didn't you do what you promised
- it's in the filter -
Converstion: why did you park on rayn
- it's in the filter -
Conversion: show me where I do this latch on behavior and don't read filters while cherry picking
- make detailed posts with self-contained examples throughout the majority of the game -
Conversion: wow way to make a post explaining why you scum lean me instead of answering my questions. Jealous posting is really suspect.

?????

Looooolllll I'm done


literally nO ONE IN THIS FUCKING THREAD cares if you think I'm mafia. you've spent LIKE 24 HOURS beating a fucking horse to a bloody pulp on how I'm mafia. GOOD JOB

WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE. if you think you're so fucking smart, why do you lack the reading comprehension to UNDERSTAND THAT.

you look like you have mORE TO HIDE THAN ME because you continuously lament on how I am scum and you complain to others why they're not seeing it, but you just randomly park a vote on Rels and still beat this fucking horse that you pummeled into nonexistence on how I'm scum

DO SOMETHING ELSE

After you and copcake spent the time I was afk to build cases against me and put me in scum pile, I should just not respond? And not give a read that I got out of the process? K noted.

In the meantime, calm down kid.

/ignore
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
August 19 2017 00:42 GMT
#2227
On August 19 2017 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 08:26 Jealous wrote:
Why is pointing out multiple instances of Conversion misrepping not "interesting?"

I said that I found some of his posts scummy, which you can see in my filter analysis image on him. I also said that I found the circumstances surrounding rayn to be more suspicious than FF or H1, which I referenced in the post explaining why I am parking on rayn.


Maybe it's the way you've written it.

Maybe because it spans over pages of back and forth bitching at each other so it makes me not want to read anything you write.

Maybe it's the monotonous nature of this game where I can't really be bothered to care anymore.

Maybe it's the alcohols.

Whoooo knows. All I know is that if you want people to listen to you then you take your spread out points and make one coherent case in a clear manner.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=107#2136

?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 19 2017 00:51 GMT
#2228
On August 19 2017 09:39 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 08:39 Conversion wrote:
On August 19 2017 07:06 Jealous wrote:
On August 18 2017 02:10 Conversion wrote:

now show me exactly where this "latch on" behavior happens and your argument will make sense. I post my thoughts in the thread to be transparent, and you take that as an attack on your play and use words that sound like I did far more than just ask you a simple question

Please stop with the misrep, it's getting comical.

Answer to all your other questions was in my filter, as you said, but since you have this misrep tendency I quoted them for you as well as answered your query here.

Does no one else see this crap?

Conversion: why didn't you do what you promised
- it's in the filter -
Converstion: why did you park on rayn
- it's in the filter -
Conversion: show me where I do this latch on behavior and don't read filters while cherry picking
- make detailed posts with self-contained examples throughout the majority of the game -
Conversion: wow way to make a post explaining why you scum lean me instead of answering my questions. Jealous posting is really suspect.

?????

Looooolllll I'm done


literally nO ONE IN THIS FUCKING THREAD cares if you think I'm mafia. you've spent LIKE 24 HOURS beating a fucking horse to a bloody pulp on how I'm mafia. GOOD JOB

WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE. if you think you're so fucking smart, why do you lack the reading comprehension to UNDERSTAND THAT.

you look like you have mORE TO HIDE THAN ME because you continuously lament on how I am scum and you complain to others why they're not seeing it, but you just randomly park a vote on Rels and still beat this fucking horse that you pummeled into nonexistence on how I'm scum

DO SOMETHING ELSE

After you and copcake spent the time I was afk to build cases against me and put me in scum pile, I should just not respond? And not give a read that I got out of the process? K noted.

In the meantime, calm down kid.

/ignore


I didn't "build a case on you"

you're not important enough to build a case on me. you're just an arrogant fucker who thinks he's good

bye kid. you can talk to me like that if you're even half as good as HF, which you're not
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 01:07 GMT
#2229
Just ask yourself:

If my case is a mess, why did the Judges picked Jelaous? Is my case worth reading?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 01:29 GMT
#2230
Btw, I am getting kinda sad you guys say the game is bad, the theme is awesome, we as players are the ones at fault if the game is fun or not.

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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 01:45 GMT
#2231
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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 02:32 GMT
#2232
Short Summary: Ritoki is a strange player. Since the beginning of the game he has had several phases from anger from a small thing (For getting a clock as his character) to being extremely emotional and sad, to hippie love and peace to not caring. When you have passion and have so several mood changes is because you are interested in the game (MY OPINION)

So let's start this Journey of RITOKI. The bolded parts are the ones I find Scummy

+ Show Spoiler +


1.- His first interaction was with Koshi for being a Judge.

2.- He then interacts with Jealous (Suspicious)

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 14 2017 06:49 ritoky wrote:
normally i like people who tell other people to go fuck themselves in the face of pressure and find it to be a town trait. but jealous consciously took the time to write his name in green on his shirt. i feel like taking the time to consciously communicate your alignment color via color in a drawing wouldn't be at the forefront of the mind of a townie. so he is whatever mafia is called this game.



3.- His next interaction is Ritoki vs Cake for the clock thing

4.- He then fights with TW for the NAI Cake read of Rayn.

5.- He went off topic with the Madoka thing.

6.- He started to put excuses for being absent and saying he is extremely busy.

7.- He makes this posts that I don't find bad.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 14 2017 15:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 15:42 geript wrote:
Do you think it's fair to read Jealous as if he were Chez? Do you think TW looks off? Also, why were you so "mad but not mad" about being called ticktock?


idk who jealous is so i have no context on that. tw is being a demolitionist so far, not a builder. wow it's great that you shit on other people's reads, but you have no alternatives or don't try to get the ball really rolling. so if that is what "off" means to you, that is what tumblewood is to me. if he magically flipped mafia i wouldn't be surprised. the clock thing was partly joking, but partly actually being hurt. i feel like i got everyone else's on some level or they were clever or cute....and i am a fucking clock with a misspelled name....dunno, was just sad


Ok, here he finds TW to be super scummy, understandable because I did too and admits he doesn't know jealous.

8.- OK IS RITOKI A DOCTOR? if so that would explain his lack of participation.

9.- Ritoki is firm that Geript is town and TW is mafia.

10.- WE HAVE A DAMDRED JEWEL HERE. (It doesn't point out to Ritoki, it points out to Geript)
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 15 2017 03:35 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 03:29 Damdred wrote:
Geript will never be town to me ritoky, our trust is broken.


why?



11.- He continues to town read Geript and Hopeless.

12.- These posts feels town

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2017 10:27 ritoky wrote:
i feel literal nothing about way too many people in this game. maybe it is because i am not directly empowered to lynch, maybe it was because i was nagged into playing and i am not mentally invested....dunno. i just haven't read very much of anything compelling in the thread. and i realize i have done basically nothing to make a substantial difference either, but it is all pretty bleh.


On August 15 2017 10:34 ritoky wrote:
i think geript is town for angle shooting, i think hopeless is town for being a ball buster and that's pretty much it. i wouldn't be surprised if TW is mafia for how he came out of the blocks tearing ppl's opinions down and not trying to build anything up but i am not sold on that. the whole shit surrounding rayn is a pile of nothing to me. ff's read on hopeless is lazy, nitpicky, and a stretch. i don't understand basically anything copcake types and it seems like she is in a different reality. and there's a guy in the thread who the judges think is town drawing pictures and self-proclaiming dunce which is offputting to me but he is funny which tends to be town indicative. damdred is just floating through like a whispy cloud who doesn't wanna be tied down to reads. it is all just so fucking meh. none of it has me excited.


I dislike his read on Hopeless but everything else seems town.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

If you had to rank them

1 - Most town
2 - Kinda town
3 - Not really town

What's your call?


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.




Here he finds Jealous as super mafia and thinks his drawings are just an act.

On August 16 2017 04:06 ritoky wrote:
rayn seems kinda town to me. i don't know why people are defending jealous' "reads posts". the last picture one was kinda something but the other 2 are just thread/post summary pure and simple. they don't actually have any original thought. still no clue what that makes him, but defending him like he is town jesus over that is lul.


More against Jealous, I am honestly feeling this guy is town.

13.- Here starts Ritoki vs Holyflare because Ritoki defends Rayn.

14.- This is a very honest post after learning Ritoki is a doctor, God Bless you Ritoki ;__;

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 16 2017 04:51 Conversion wrote:
@rayn if you want to actually play the game instead of calling everyone else shit outside of 2 players, please do. I've been lurking around TL mafia and you are one of the more memorable names, so it means I respect your play

if you're going to just fling shit at a wall and try to assume I'm making reads I'm not, you can go choke on a bag of dicks and fuck off

I will say i was shit in case i am wrong but i am not.
You can think otherwise, you can want to lynch me, you can want to lycnh whoever you want. But if you don't lynch HF D1 or D2 you will lose. If you are town that is.

Don't tell me to go choke on a bag of dicks, because you can be fucking sure you will get that bag thrown at your face, i promise you that. I dont care if i am modkilled, i wil just throw it and make sure it hurts, so do not try me, same as Hopeless. I am not in the mood rn...


being serious here after coming off of a rough fucking day the other day, but i hope you get the time over the course of the next day or so to do something you love or to eat one of your favorite foods or some random stranger is kind to you. some times we can't pick ourselves up and need something else to do it for us. i hope you get that to make the world less shitty for you.


15.- This is honest, he always had Jealous as mafia and decided that HF was kinda assholish for the rayn thing.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 16 2017 05:23 ritoky wrote:
voted copcake. just don't trust hf or jealous......somehow i trust copcake more.....it was a bad selection by the judges


16.- THIS IS A VERY STRANGE POST, he always found TW to be mafiosi but suddenly he doesn't cooperate when TW is getting heat

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 18 2017 04:10 ritoky wrote:
yeah! fuck you tumblewood! dunno what we're on about, but every1 is doing it!



17.- Suddenly he forgets that TW and Jealous are his top Mafia. Is ironic because I forgot I wanted to lynch him but the Damdred thing came out of nowhere. Specially when his only interaction with Damdred is that the trust is broken because Damdred doesn't trust Geript.


This is post #1881 page 95
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2017 04:24 ritoky wrote:
i'd lynch damdred.


18.- He then defends TW from Geript because of Geript case.

19.- Ritoki firms in that Damdred is mafia, I don't blame him, I believed that too, HARD.

20.- Firm with Jealous
On August 18 2017 07:48 ritoky wrote:
jealous is never mafia with conversion btw.

big contributions by me.




CONCLUSION AFTER READING THE FILTER:

RITOKI IS TOWN.
[



CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 02:33 GMT
#2233
Tbh it seems like the Damdred Kill was to frame Ritoki, maybe me because I was also a hard believer that Damdred was mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 02:54 GMT
#2234
My next mystery to solve is why Damdred got killed.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 04:07 GMT
#2235
Saboteurs (3-5): The saboteurs win when their numbers equal or exceed the number of ‘honest contestants’ left in the contest. They consist of 2-3 regular saboteurs and 1 framer. In the event of 5 saboteurs, the fifth will be given the option to choose between a 1-use vest or they may return as an ‘honest contestant’ to checks for 1 night.
All roles will be RNG’d. (No, we do not accept requests to be a Judge.)

Are we sure there are only 3 mafia?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 19 2017 04:11 GMT
#2236
Nevermind the picture of game mechanics explained it
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 19 2017 05:43 GMT
#2237
Jealous why is Rels more likely to be mafia than the other two?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 19 2017 05:44 GMT
#2238
Sorry i am still tired, i will rephrase my question, why is Rels more likely mafia than ritoky?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 19 2017 06:10 GMT
#2239
ritoky:
On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 10:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

If you had to rank them

1 - Most town
2 - Kinda town
3 - Not really town

What's your call?


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.

Here is where you gave your reads on the people who were up for nomination for the prize on D1. Then happens this:
On August 16 2017 04:01 ritoky wrote:
am i really going to have to vote for copcake in this top shit? really....is that what is about to happen....

Note that this post happened before you claimed a scumread on Holyflare.
Now i would like you to explain this:
On August 16 2017 05:51 ritoky wrote:
i have tons of issues with copcake, but at the end of the day she has a terrible read on me that is absolutely trash imo. but she convinced me over the course of the day that she thoroughly believes her trash read. which makes her more worthy of the power than either of you two.

Cake's read on you was one of the smartest things you questioned before the power up's. It literally was, because intentional or unintentional she claimed you are mafia for lying and basically that she knew you were lying before the lying could have even happened (the posts on you and Damdred). That is a thing that can actually be scummy, even quite likely, and definitely worth questioning. Now Cake never ever answers this, even when i asked about it three days later she just starts talking about something completely different (well that's irrelevant but she didn't explain herself to you either). At the start of the nominations (as you claim in your post) HF is "undecided", so i s Jealous. Basically the only thing you found scummy in those three people was Cake's leap of logic.

And then you wanted to give the power up to her. Now this is why i have a hard time believing you actually believed in Cake being scummy -- even earlier. Which imo makes you scummy, since you either (1) tried to make someone else catch up on the point you made and push a townie (i don't think you two can ever be mafia together) instead of you, or (2) you didn't actually think the point was scummy from the beginning which doesn't make any sense to me because i think if you thought that, you wouldn't spend like half of your filter at that time over something you find irrelevant to one's alignment.

I think both of options (1) and (2) make you mafai, so can you tell me what is the option (3) i am missing here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 19 2017 06:24 GMT
#2240
Rels, can you give me a detailed reads on Jealous, ritoky, geript and Cake?
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