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On August 18 2017 10:24 CopCake wrote: Why is everyone suddenly so afk? Idk. But like this is a reason why Rels isn't Town. When he's Town he's a little shitter that doesn't really play until after the first lynch. When he's scum he uses that to do the same thing. I really don't know. I guess people are assuming we're just going to lynch TW and go on our way but there's like 0% chance the scum team is TW and no one else.
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On August 18 2017 10:44 Conversion wrote: I just got home and I'm tired
someone tell me if anything interesting happened
did Jealous reply? You referring to the latched on thing?
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I literally have someone on my FB page trying to argue that the Charlottesville protests weren't set up by neo-Nazis, that not everyone who marched in protest was a neo-nazi, and that there were good people who were there to try and support "southern heritage." Like WTF?
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I'm game Copcake, what's your tinfoil?
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I'm pretty sure that most of that incoherent nonsense is out of context in the thread. Like Jaelous was scumreading me because he thought the judges could number their proposals and he thought I was trying to get it so scum could get a free chance at power.
In retrospect that argument is pretty weird. Live in the world where judges got to say (X > Y > Z in order of towniness/scumminess). Like why would scum ever propose something something that fucking terrible and obviously unnecessary? It's like claiming to be scum.
I'll look at him again and maybe try to understand some of the pictures.
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On August 18 2017 14:06 CopCake wrote: To me the last interaction of Jealous x Hopeless look like MvM and Jealous trying to distance because his scummate fucked up HARD. Do me a favor. Pick your 5 best arguments for Jealous being scum. Order them 1-5. List them in that order and provide your proof with them. When I'm done reading his in context of the thread, I will get back to you. There's no way in hell, I or anyone else are reading 37 points about a guy where most of those are broken up with big pictures and half the points are non-sense.
Choose which 5 of your children you love the most and bring them back.
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On August 18 2017 14:25 CopCake wrote:Honestly you should read them all, it is not posted in a difficult format and most of the points is me pointing out he only talked to Hopeless in his filter, literally. But to make it easier the best one is this: Jealous says he needs to read FF/H1 filter, his next post is saying he had Hopeless and Geript as town. Add the salt that He called Geript Mafia in the beginning and a few pages back he asked HF to filter FF/H1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=103#2052 First, it's terrible formatting because it's hard for the eye to follow what you're saying and what you're linking things too.
This post open the spoiler; it's near the bottom. It's the same post that you read and liked for picking up that you're foreign.
Part of the problem I have in reading Jealous is that his pictures don't make much sense to me. I can understand some of them in context, but 825 ruins some of that.
It's kinda funny after looking at and reading Jealous a few times, I think my initial read on him being like Chezinu is 100% correct. From looking at his various other posts on BW, dude seems pretty smart (like Chez). And while he in part starts posting in text because of class, he seems to keep it up a bit to make sure that he gets his point across. Chez would do that as town but not as scum, he'd try to string people along and get them to play his game.
His reasoning for voting HF at 48 hours is good too; like the action itself is kinda free because someone 1 switch from HF to Cop in order to change the powerup. But like unless Jealous and HF are scum together, it's hard to imagine that action coming from scum. Like it's subtle, but I don't think it's worthless.
There's little things:
On August 18 2017 01:18 Jealous wrote: What a shit show. I expected more from you H1. Rayn, not so much, but still. Like this. Where he thinks Hopeless can and should do better with the obvious implication it's because he has a hard townread on Hopeless and the fight is dumb/worthless/super shitfight.
I think there's far more reason to think Jealous is town.
I think I might have met Jealous at one of the DC get togethers maybe? IDK, irrelevant. But mostly, your point i
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On August 18 2017 15:12 CopCake wrote: You dont get it.
In any of his filter he says H1 is town
Then in one post he says he needs to filter H1 and FF and in same post he later says his town reads are H1 and you Geript.
On August 16 2017 05:39 Jealous wrote: Parking on rayn until I look at FF's filter later tonight. Definitely not voting for H1 but I guess I will have to do my due diligence and look at his filter too; even though he's one of my hard town reads, that kind of false confidence and unwillingness to read filters is exactly what makes people play bad. Do you understand what due diligence means? Like he called Hopeless town before this. He calls hopeless town after this. I don't see how anything of what you're saying makes Jealous scum.
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I can't wait for 2 hours to pass...
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I'm consolidating on HF. Those Copcake voters look fucking terrible.
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On August 19 2017 04:28 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2017 04:12 geript wrote: I'm consolidating on HF. Those Copcake voters look fucking terrible. i really like that the rhetoric of this game is "do what hf says or you're mafia" It's not that at all. Copcake is an incoherent mess. She at best has super selective memory when it comes to the thread. She at best has exceptionally poor logic at the best of times. She can literally push anything. Yesterday, I think they chose 3 off of HF + dumbtells (which aren't). Today, idk. I've been over her filter and I don't see how she's obvious Town. Her "case" on Jealous/Hopeless is a hot fucking mess and prime example of her play all game. I don't care because she's not even top 3 in people I want to kill; that's the sad state this game is in. That a completely incoherent mess doesn't even rank to fit into the prime lynch pool.
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On August 19 2017 04:47 Holyflare wrote: At this point rels is confirmed mafia so we've got that got going for us A lynch between him and TW would be tough. Lynch one, shoot the other.
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It's a little thing, but I do like Cop's vote.
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On August 19 2017 05:36 Holyflare wrote: Can we vote all 3? Pretty sure Jealous is Town. Ritoky less so.
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On August 17 2017 08:17 Damdred wrote: I think the biggest thing about rels is, he has read the game somewhat (knows I'm being a bit lackluster) has time to snipe about it but doesn't help the game or drive it forward.
And if he hasn't why is he scum reading me for tho ng s that might be or not be true?
I'm just going to put this right here. There's more to be said, but shouldn't be said now.
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On August 18 2017 15:07 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2017 14:25 CopCake wrote:Honestly you should read them all, it is not posted in a difficult format and most of the points is me pointing out he only talked to Hopeless in his filter, literally. But to make it easier the best one is this: Jealous says he needs to read FF/H1 filter, his next post is saying he had Hopeless and Geript as town. Add the salt that He called Geript Mafia in the beginning and a few pages back he asked HF to filter FF/H1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=103#2052 First, it's terrible formatting because it's hard for the eye to follow what you're saying and what you're linking things too. This post open the spoiler; it's near the bottom. It's the same post that you read and liked for picking up that you're foreign. Part of the problem I have in reading Jealous is that his pictures don't make much sense to me. I can understand some of them in context, but 825 ruins some of that. It's kinda funny after looking at and reading Jealous a few times, I think my initial read on him being like Chezinu is 100% correct. From looking at his various other posts on BW, dude seems pretty smart (like Chez). And while he in part starts posting in text because of class, he seems to keep it up a bit to make sure that he gets his point across. Chez would do that as town but not as scum, he'd try to string people along and get them to play his game. His reasoning for voting HF at 48 hours is good too; like the action itself is kinda free because someone 1 switch from HF to Cop in order to change the powerup. But like unless Jealous and HF are scum together, it's hard to imagine that action coming from scum. Like it's subtle, but I don't think it's worthless. There's little things: Show nested quote +On August 18 2017 01:18 Jealous wrote: What a shit show. I expected more from you H1. Rayn, not so much, but still. Like this. Where he thinks Hopeless can and should do better with the obvious implication it's because he has a hard townread on Hopeless and the fight is dumb/worthless/super shitfight. I think there's far more reason to think Jealous is town. I think I might have met Jealous at one of the DC get togethers maybe? IDK, irrelevant. But mostly, your point i @Conversion
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On August 19 2017 06:21 Conversion wrote: I'd still have to disagree with you, though but we can agree to disagree. His latest posts do not sound town-oriented at all, and his continuous dismissal of basic questions (such as the one I asked you) just feels wrong.
Like, you're making this really big case that's not saying much. Why not just answer the question I posed in the first place? He clearly has time to write a well thought out post (albeit flawed in the conclusion he makes, in my opinion), but he could have quoted his thoughts on FF, Hopeless, and why he parked his vote on rayn but he did this weird I'm just gonna case you as scum now because you're prodding at me. That doesn't feel town. Town shouldn't get defensive over being prodded, they should just be answering or saying "it's in my filter" if you're that busy (which, again, he had time to write a long, constructed post on why I'm scum)
The question was why was he not doing anything he promised, and his thread entrance and subsequent posting afterwards showed his "I'm busy" excuse is kind of lame to be frank. He could have spent 1/8 of that time answering my questions, then doing what he promised (casing H1, since FF is gone). Instead he gets defensive and deflects to me being scum while trying to seem logical. I don't think I'm busy is a lame excuse. I've found that far more often than not people are honest about their schedule/time constraints. The other reasons you have are meh.
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On August 19 2017 06:39 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2017 06:33 geript wrote:On August 19 2017 06:21 Conversion wrote: I'd still have to disagree with you, though but we can agree to disagree. His latest posts do not sound town-oriented at all, and his continuous dismissal of basic questions (such as the one I asked you) just feels wrong.
Like, you're making this really big case that's not saying much. Why not just answer the question I posed in the first place? He clearly has time to write a well thought out post (albeit flawed in the conclusion he makes, in my opinion), but he could have quoted his thoughts on FF, Hopeless, and why he parked his vote on rayn but he did this weird I'm just gonna case you as scum now because you're prodding at me. That doesn't feel town. Town shouldn't get defensive over being prodded, they should just be answering or saying "it's in my filter" if you're that busy (which, again, he had time to write a long, constructed post on why I'm scum)
The question was why was he not doing anything he promised, and his thread entrance and subsequent posting afterwards showed his "I'm busy" excuse is kind of lame to be frank. He could have spent 1/8 of that time answering my questions, then doing what he promised (casing H1, since FF is gone). Instead he gets defensive and deflects to me being scum while trying to seem logical. I don't think I'm busy is a lame excuse. I've found that far more often than not people are honest about their schedule/time constraints. The other reasons you have are meh. I think I'm busy is a lame excuse when the hardest thing I asked him was "why did you park your vote on rayn" again, can agree to disagree Sure, but unless you think Hopeless is scum, where Jealous (or anyone really) put their votes on D1 is irrelevant. Like the only reason I've responded to Copcake's shit is because I don't want her dumb shit to spread. Like, compare Jealous to ritoky even. Ritoky hasn't given a shit all game and has been quite explicit about that. Jealous has; more importantly, he's cared at points when it's easy as Town to afk (N1). Sure his contributions during N1 were pretty shitty, but I think the fact that as a brand new player (I assume but I'm pretty sure is true) he cares and is thinking at those points is a point in his favor imo. It's a weak point but not worth ignoring.
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Like, I kinda think that after playing this game a bit that we should be voting for who is the least likely to be scum for the power-up and who is the least likely to be Town for the lynch. Quite honestly, I haven't seen a single reason to think Rels is Town. That alone should be a strong reason to lynch him over Jealous.
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