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On August 03 2017 03:49 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 03:32 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:31 CopCake wrote:On August 03 2017 03:09 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 02 2017 22:31 CopCake wrote:
I think we found our distanced mafia, koshi is making no sense.
If BTDT changed his votes so many times is because as a scum he knew the person he lynched wouldnt get lynched, scum counts who is winning the wagon. You and Ruxxar need to realize the following: if I am scum and happy with either lynch of TT, DF and Damdred, it clears all three of them that I am merrily jumping wagons at EoD. Do you think all of those three are town? + Show Spoiler +I hope you realized by now that I didn't merrily switch wagons because that's what both of you are currently implying. Dude, you need to realize that a town would have sticked with the most scummiest, I didnt find tick tock "scummy" but neither "townie" so I stuck with my mafia read, I dislike to jump on wagons just because. So I'm town since I sticked with the scummiest person which at the time was (you) TicTock. I actively tried to judge who'd be the better lynch and I figured it was Tictock. Then deal with it, you lynched tick tock if you are town you make a "mistake" but why do you kept changing from one to another?
I didn't hammer Tictock, I was not the decisive vote.
I don't regret taking part in lynching a townie.
(I wouldn't regret if I had been the hammer, too)
I'm not sure how you missed it, I thought I said it pretty clearly, but I'll gather it up in one place:
1. I wanted to lynch HF because he's speaking russian and I do not like that at all, in complete disregard of his actual alignment. I don't want that mechanism in the game.
2. I wanted to lynch Damdred because I thought he was absolutely not contributing to the game and I regard him as a player who is very sharp on finding scum and who is good at this game. My impression was that his play was lackluster and missing its usual sharpness. I pointed that out several times and thus I started a wagon on him.
3. Since DF was and is locked town in my eyes, I defaulted to the wagon that is "not DF", in this case being Tictock. I said that I hadn't built a final opinion on Tictock and I did so as good as I could; and I was absolutely torn between Damdred being scum or Damdred being town (again, check my filter, there's a post where I quote my problem very specifically)
4. I couldn't understand your behaviour at EoD at all, you were just yelling a lot, making noise, apparently only being interested in chaos and derailing and not in actually determining any wagon's alignment. So I hoped to start shenanigans on you, also because the closer deadline came, the more certain I was on Tictock being town - I asked multiple times (bolded and big) if someone was hard opposing the TT lynch.
Those steps 1-4 are what you call "jumping on wagons" and yes, I did switch wagons, but each switch had its reasons and they were, at least from my perspective, good ones.
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On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ.
ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ?
КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ.
HF yelling at people in Caps probably means he's town
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On August 03 2017 03:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 03:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
So. Here are my reads:
Town: Koshi, darthfoley, Damdred, rsoultin, VayneAuthority
(yes that's Damdred up there with rsoultin. Let's see if it holds up. No I can't explain this read, it's like EUREKA.)
Scum:
Ruxxar
CopCake
Rest:
Tumblewood
Rels
Holyflare
Superbia
Conversion
no particular order You think I'm scum with copcake?
On August 03 2017 03:48 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 03:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:46 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:44 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:31 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:04 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 02 2017 19:40 ruXxar wrote:
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I had the exact opposite reaction to his EOD.
Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could.
His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy.
Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random.
Question for HF and Rsoul, is there any way to prevent the spreading of the russian disease?
It's a really shitty game mechanic(fuuuu rayn), so if there some way to stop it or reverse it, I'll do anything in my power to do so. Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could.??? How can it "feel" like that when I said LITERALLY that I'm fine with Damdred and Tictock and NOT FINE with DF? How is that random? How is that "lynch anything he could"? I was there at EoD and I tried to determine which lynch would be better since I was/am certain that DF is not scum, so I evaluated Damdred and Tictock. How can it be that I left the impression of being absolutely random in my lynch targets? Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. if you actually read my EoD, you can clearly see that my shennanies on CopCake came as a direct reaction to his play and to me thinking that TT will flip town because nobody answered my question about who is actually opposing the TT lynch. It wasn't a surprise that TT was town but even in retrospect I think it was the correct move. You forgot that you wanted to lynch HF? I didn't want to lynch HF. I wanted (kinda want) to remove him from the game. It's absolutely annoying to have someone talk in an unreadable way, especially when on mobile. Lynch != Removal. Lynch = I case him, I think he's flipping scum. Removal = get this guy out of the game because it's annoying as fuck to play with russian letters. On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare
1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game
woa that's actually a decent case. I hope you realize the seriousness in that case. I hope you see the big effort I put in. I hope you realize that the part you bolded acknowledges the sheer amount of work I put in to build that "case" and I hope my follow up posts in the context of that case show how hard I tried to lynch Holyflare all day long. Or, you shut the fuck up and go back to imdumbCountry because that's clearly where you're trying to flee from right now Classy coming from the "stop calling me bad" dude. Sweet irony. You're right. That was unnecessary. Shame it was planned: the fact that you're poking on that instead of actually responding to what I say makes it pretty obvious that you're scum trying to tilt me  . I'm trying to tilt you because it makes you show your true colors, making you easier to read. That's an outright lie. Ruxxar, you have asked me a lot of things now. I have answered all of them. Can you please give a conclusion and build a case on why I am scum or retract from your scumread?
Tell me when you've done what I asked you to do or please go look at someone else and place your vote onto me D2. I don't want to answer your questions anymore. I think that you ask just to ask something, you're not interesting in the actual answers since you don't draw a conclusion. To be honest, you don't even remotely look like you're even reading the answers.
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You know what
I'll lock HF as town now. I don't think mafia gets such limitations and if so, I'll simply give the hosts feedback that I don't like it and I find it unenjoyable. So! HF top town.
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Holyflare и Тина: не могли бы вы объяснить, как вы стали русским? Или цитируйте сообщение, где вы его объяснили?
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On August 03 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
PM Говоря, я забыл английский до дальнейшего уведомления.
Кроме того, вы сказали, что это не городская HF в вашем мини-корпусе, чтобы линчевать меня и пойти на крестовый поход, чтобы линчевать меня, а теперь отредактировать это и сказать, что вы на самом деле не помнили меня?
"PM Speaking, I forgot English until further notice.
In addition, you said that it is not a city HF in your mini-corps to lynch me and go on a crusade to lynch me, and now edit it and say that you really did not remember me?"
Use smaller sentences for the sake of being understandable. Please.
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On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight?
I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded.
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Dear everyone, when you think about the night kills, please keep in mind that CopCake was shot by town, making Superbia and rsoultin potential targets of scum KP.
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Superbia flipping casts a lot of shade on darthfoley.
Russian rsoultin being killed over russian Holyflare casts a lot of shade on Holyflare.
Koshi starting the day with a vote on me after hard townreading me casts a lot of shade on Koshi.
Ruxxar not changing a thing means he either is super carefree town or super confident scum. Not sure yet.
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I am a "relentless scum hater". As long as I hit scum, I get shots. Should I hit town and kill, I don't get refunded. Should I hit town and my target survive, my target learns my identity.
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And why exactly did you claim to have shot CopCake?
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Also knowing my own role and knowing all the flips, I cannot believe Ruxxar is a one-shot vig and nothing else.
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So you had 2 KP (assuming Vodka + Matches is a molotov cocktail) and you chose to kill Superbia and Copcake.
On August 03 2017 05:11 ruXxar wrote:
If I die, lynch either of these two:
Superbia
Copcake
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On August 03 2017 18:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 18:15 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:13 beentheredonethat wrote:
And why exactly did you claim to have shot CopCake? I didn't want to reveal that I had used vodka + matches. Why lie about killing Superbia? Or hide it.
Same question
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We should lynch HF or darthfoley.
Yes, those are the two people I said I locked them as town.
The idea is: scum would kill russian HF over russian rsoultin.
The fact that rsoultin apparently was the/a scum KP target points towards the russian language not being alignment indicative. So far, I thought it's a scum/3p thing to silent players. Now that rsoultin flipped, I think it's either 3p induced or mod induced. So in my world, previously, HF was town (or 3p) due to the russian stuff. But this doesn't hold up anymore.
Regarding DF: I was absolutely wrong on CopCake. I can very well be absolutely wrong on DF. He was the counter wagon to Tictock and if he flips red, we can actually do some more VCA. So he definitely should be part 1 of our potential 2 (or more) wagons we have this day.
Maybe even DF vs. HF wagons.
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On August 03 2017 18:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 03:46 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:44 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:31 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:04 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 02 2017 19:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 02 2017 19:11 Koshi wrote:
btdt played extremely townie during EoD. Constantly moving his vote Rels -> Damdred/CC/TT while trying closing in on the best target. Really impressed by that. Don't think he can ever do that as mafia. I had the exact opposite reaction to his EOD. Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could. His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy. Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. Question for HF and Rsoul, is there any way to prevent the spreading of the russian disease?It's a really shitty game mechanic(fuuuu rayn), so if there some way to stop it or reverse it, I'll do anything in my power to do so. Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could.??? How can it "feel" like that when I said LITERALLY that I'm fine with Damdred and Tictock and NOT FINE with DF? How is that random? How is that "lynch anything he could"? I was there at EoD and I tried to determine which lynch would be better since I was/am certain that DF is not scum, so I evaluated Damdred and Tictock. How can it be that I left the impression of being absolutely random in my lynch targets? Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. if you actually read my EoD, you can clearly see that my shennanies on CopCake came as a direct reaction to his play and to me thinking that TT will flip town because nobody answered my question about who is actually opposing the TT lynch. It wasn't a surprise that TT was town but even in retrospect I think it was the correct move. You forgot that you wanted to lynch HF? I didn't want to lynch HF. I wanted (kinda want) to remove him from the game. It's absolutely annoying to have someone talk in an unreadable way, especially when on mobile. Lynch != Removal. Lynch = I case him, I think he's flipping scum. Removal = get this guy out of the game because it's annoying as fuck to play with russian letters. On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare
1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game
woa that's actually a decent case. I hope you realize the seriousness in that case. I hope you see the big effort I put in. I hope you realize that the part you bolded acknowledges the sheer amount of work I put in to build that "case" and I hope my follow up posts in the context of that case show how hard I tried to lynch Holyflare all day long. Or, you shut the fuck up and go back to imdumbCountry because that's clearly where you're trying to flee from right now Classy coming from the "stop calling me bad" dude. Sweet irony. You're right. That was unnecessary. Shame it was planned: the fact that you're poking on that instead of actually responding to what I say makes it pretty obvious that you're scum trying to tilt me . Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 03:48 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:46 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:44 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:31 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:21 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 03:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
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Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could.
??? How can it "feel" like that when I said LITERALLY that I'm fine with Damdred and Tictock and NOT FINE with DF? How is that random? How is that "lynch anything he could"? I was there at EoD and I tried to determine which lynch would be better since I was/am certain that DF is not scum, so I evaluated Damdred and Tictock. How can it be that I left the impression of being absolutely random in my lynch targets?
Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random.
if you actually read my EoD, you can clearly see that my shennanies on CopCake came as a direct reaction to his play and to me thinking that TT will flip town because nobody answered my question about who is actually opposing the TT lynch.
It wasn't a surprise that TT was town but even in retrospect I think it was the correct move. You forgot that you wanted to lynch HF? I didn't want to lynch HF. I wanted (kinda want) to remove him from the game. It's absolutely annoying to have someone talk in an unreadable way, especially when on mobile. Lynch != Removal. Lynch = I case him, I think he's flipping scum. Removal = get this guy out of the game because it's annoying as fuck to play with russian letters. On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare
1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game
woa that's actually a decent case. I hope you realize the seriousness in that case. I hope you see the big effort I put in. I hope you realize that the part you bolded acknowledges the sheer amount of work I put in to build that "case" and I hope my follow up posts in the context of that case show how hard I tried to lynch Holyflare all day long. Or, you shut the fuck up and go back to imdumbCountry because that's clearly where you're trying to flee from right now Classy coming from the "stop calling me bad" dude. Sweet irony. You're right. That was unnecessary. Shame it was planned: the fact that you're poking on that instead of actually responding to what I say makes it pretty obvious that you're scum trying to tilt me . I'm trying to tilt you because it makes you show your true colors, making you easier to read. That's an outright lie. Ruxxar, you have asked me a lot of things now. I have answered all of them. Can you please give a conclusion and build a case on why I am scum or retract from your scumread?
Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:49 CopCake wrote:On August 03 2017 03:32 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 03:31 CopCake wrote:On August 03 2017 03:09 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 02 2017 22:31 CopCake wrote:
I think we found our distanced mafia, koshi is making no sense.
If BTDT changed his votes so many times is because as a scum he knew the person he lynched wouldnt get lynched, scum counts who is winning the wagon. You and Ruxxar need to realize the following: if I am scum and happy with either lynch of TT, DF and Damdred, it clears all three of them that I am merrily jumping wagons at EoD. Do you think all of those three are town? + Show Spoiler +I hope you realized by now that I didn't merrily switch wagons because that's what both of you are currently implying. Dude, you need to realize that a town would have sticked with the most scummiest, I didnt find tick tock "scummy" but neither "townie" so I stuck with my mafia read, I dislike to jump on wagons just because. So I'm town since I sticked with the scummiest person which at the time was (you) TicTock. I actively tried to judge who'd be the better lynch and I figured it was Tictock. Then deal with it, you lynched tick tock if you are town you make a "mistake" but why do you kept changing from one to another? I didn't hammer Tictock, I was not the decisive vote. I don't regret taking part in lynching a townie. (I wouldn't regret if I had been the hammer, too) I'm not sure how you missed it, I thought I said it pretty clearly, but I'll gather it up in one place: 1. I wanted to lynch HF because he's speaking russian and I do not like that at all, in complete disregard of his actual alignment. I don't want that mechanism in the game. 2. I wanted to lynch Damdred because I thought he was absolutely not contributing to the game and I regard him as a player who is very sharp on finding scum and who is good at this game. My impression was that his play was lackluster and missing its usual sharpness. I pointed that out several times and thus I started a wagon on him. 3. Since DF was and is locked town in my eyes, I defaulted to the wagon that is "not DF", in this case being Tictock. I said that I hadn't built a final opinion on Tictock and I did so as good as I could; and I was absolutely torn between Damdred being scum or Damdred being town (again, check my filter, there's a post where I quote my problem very specifically) 4. I couldn't understand your behaviour at EoD at all, you were just yelling a lot, making noise, apparently only being interested in chaos and derailing and not in actually determining any wagon's alignment. So I hoped to start shenanigans on you, also because the closer deadline came, the more certain I was on Tictock being town - I asked multiple times (bolded and big) if someone was hard opposing the TT lynch. Those steps 1-4 are what you call "jumping on wagons" and yes, I did switch wagons, but each switch had its reasons and they were, at least from my perspective, good ones.
@btdt Looking at those 2 posts. I don't understand why you shot CC over Ruxxar last night. Against CC you defend like you defend vs a townie. Trying to win her over. Against Ruxxar you defend like you defend vs a mafia. aka not giving a shit about what he says. Why shoot CC then?
My read on CC is: scum.
My read on Ruxxar is: scum/bad town, because in every single game I played with him, he was town and doing absolutely non-town things.
"Against CC you defend like you defend vs a townie. Trying to win her over."
Not her. Everyone else! I was afraid that she'd be pushing me the next day along with Ruxxar/HF, both didn't like my EoD (for different reasons). So I tried to tell everyone reading the discussion between her and me why exactly I did what I did.
"Against Ruxxar you defend like you defend vs a mafia. aka not giving a shit about what he says."
Correct - I didn't (and don't give) a shit about what he says because I think his conclusions are either bad or nonexistant, his questions don't make sense, and interacting with him is probably a waste of time.
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Basically, I took CC's pressure seriously because I assumed she's scum tryharding me, and I didn't take Ruxxar's pressure seriously because I'm not respecting any of the points he brought up and I think each and every single one of them was bad and/or false.
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On August 03 2017 18:33 Koshi wrote:Ruxxar is claiming mafia in the thread and you vote HF?
Ruxxar has said he's 1-shot vigi, he clearly isn't, and he clearly doesn't want to reveal more information about his role. I absolutely think he's bad town.
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On August 03 2017 18:36 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 18:24 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 18:13 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 18:12 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then. You're right. I shot superbia. I used vodka + matches on copcake. You didn't because you didn't visit her. ruxxar are you untrackable ? My PM says I'm a "Sneaky fucking russian". it might be a hidden property of my alignment.
Aaand now this.
Lol.
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