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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:20 GMT
#975
Okay, actually at a keyboard now. I'm going to try to explain feels now because I'm not one of those players who can just make shit up to support my gut.

Basically Damdred's entire approach to the game has been off. Normally he townhunts, and comments on things as he sees them. There may not be much reasoning, but there is reasoning. His filter shows:
- Rels town for role pm (presumably)
- agreement on Rels' read on TT
- Ruxx town for 'bad' reason
- gut scum on TT

Then list post with a shit ton of people he never mentioned and doesn't elaborate on.

This bravado is entirely out of place from damdred:
On August 01 2017 02:05 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is the tiniest town that ever town and you should respect that and do what I say.


It could be argued that it was a joke, but it feels more like grasping at an attempt of towny 'arrogance' that falls short, largely because damdred isn't the blind arrogance type of player.

On August 01 2017 23:43 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why do many people have to be disparaging towards my fast fingers and my phone keyboard.

Literally has no purpose but to be rude and honestly irritating. And if you think that being that way towards me will hasten my speed of doing things, I promplu sa gofuck yourself and have a nice day.

Now goodbye for now


And this just seems weird. The potshots could be irritating, sure, but it's true that he's misspelling. I'd expect a town damdred to react like this if his reads were being ignored in favor of talking about his typos, not just because people mention his typoing. And the last sentence is awkward tacked on...like he wasn't quite sure how to end it.

I knoooow this is another case of rsoul feels something, and it's not as pretty as logical arguments, but damdred is 100% a player I read on emotion. If he's town this game he must be on mood-altering drugs or something because this is just all wrong.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:21 GMT
#976
Daaaamdred we should be voting daaamdreeeeed
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:26 GMT
#978
nononono

this is not like last games. i'm not even sure what last games were like, but it's not, cause it's not town damdred ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:30 GMT
#979
coooome oooon where is everyone ;o;
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:32 GMT
#981
On August 02 2017 01:31 darthfoley wrote:
I'm around


I want to vote damdred ^^ you should join me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:33 GMT
#983
On August 02 2017 01:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 01:30 rsoultin wrote:
coooome oooon where is everyone ;o;


I'm right here sweetheart.


voting damdred with me? i'll even let you call me sweetheart without kicking your ass ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:35 GMT
#988
-_-

stop. fucking. ignoring. me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:38 GMT
#989
ah, not ignoring! \o/

-flicks ruxxar- i'm talking about many, many games of playing with damdred. this isn't damdred. damdred is one of the nicest guys on the planet, but he has this habit of getting all emo when people discount his reads and don't pay attention to him. he knows he's not good at replicating that emotion as scum...and this typo 'outburst' is entirely wrong

like i haven't been happy with him all game but that post is not town damdred. this is not a 'last game' vs 'this game' thing.

@df i skimmed over part and didn't give a fuck cause i'm town and never ever getting lynched this game. if there's something you want to ask me, go for it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:44 GMT
#993
On August 01 2017 23:44 darthfoley wrote:
I think it's a little alarming that I can't remember what rsoultin wants to do today. Looking over her filter, two posts have really irked me (spoiler: they both involve me).

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 13:37 rsoultin wrote:
On July 31 2017 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
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Given change and my own pm, this point would be where to start reading from. Don't necessarily agree that nothing can be gained from the first 24 hours, but there's a slim possibility we were being massively host-trolled and I doubt scum can only give itself away in the first 24 hours, so I'm fine with parking on my early reads for the moment.

Also just really want to spite-lynch Conversion/DF. Not even sure that their behavior isn't more town-indicative, to be frank. But then again, when scum team hf/bugs/etc. were trying to throw me off my game they deliberately picked fights with me, so it's not outside scum wheelhouse, either. Probably going to sit on that, too. Would be fun to lynch.

Also, cake, you have a point that people keep appealing to me...though I am very curious what you think an 'rsoultin verse' looks like. I know I sure as hell can't remember your townplay for shit...I don't even think I've seen it in forum mafia? Were you town in Slam's ruined game that HF was smurfing in? -too lazy to check-


I never picked a fight with her? This was just an odd way to include me.

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 13:46 rsoultin wrote:
Ooookay, where am I at?

Koshi, BTDT - town

Superbia, VA, Tumble - townish (at least enough for a d1 pass)

HF, Rels - not lynching...I still kind of get a town lean off Holyflare, if only because I don't see his scum game as 'let's see how long I can dick around'...could be 3rd party maybe? Rels is pure RNG when he's notorious for not being around D1.

That leaves DF, Cake, Damdy, Ruxxy, TT, Conversion which is still waaaay too many people I'm just not sure on @.@

I think my preferred lynch right now is TT...and to be fair DF should probably be higher because I doubt I lynch him over the other 4

Pffft I actually don't think the bottom 5 contains all of mafia but I guess we can cross that bridge when we get there. Yeah, let's flip TT. Gonna poke around in some filters and see if I can't settle some question marks better.


And now she promises to try and filter dive previous games that Koshi selects for her. It really feels awkward to me how she continues to include me while admitting she shouldn't. It gives her the option of hammering me if the wind starts to blow my way.


This was the didn't give a fuck post that I skimmed lol ><

Plain and simple I thought the way you and conversion shat all over BTDT (joke or not) was, for lack of a more creative word, shitty. Thus the spite lynch comment. As for Koshi, he's my top town read and I was having trouble settling on who I wanted to lynch because I was having doubts about cake and conversion. So of course I'm going to look into his scum read. Simple as that. Still probably will but I really want a damdred lynch.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:46 GMT
#994
On August 02 2017 01:43 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
ah, not ignoring! \o/

-flicks ruxxar- i'm talking about many, many games of playing with damdred. this isn't damdred. damdred is one of the nicest guys on the planet, but he has this habit of getting all emo when people discount his reads and don't pay attention to him. he knows he's not good at replicating that emotion as scum...and this typo 'outburst' is entirely wrong

like i haven't been happy with him all game but that post is not town damdred. this is not a 'last game' vs 'this game' thing.

@df i skimmed over part and didn't give a fuck cause i'm town and never ever getting lynched this game. if there's something you want to ask me, go for it


I agree and I said as much.
It's just that I have other very strong candidates to mull over.

If I can't get them lynched I'll move my vote later.


;o; but i'm like...80% certain I'm right

with the other 20% being like...maybe he's high or underwent major personality changes since last I played with him

80% is fucking insane for me on a d1
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 16:52 GMT
#996
On August 02 2017 01:48 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 01:46 rsoultin wrote:
On August 02 2017 01:43 ruXxar wrote:
On August 02 2017 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
ah, not ignoring! \o/

-flicks ruxxar- i'm talking about many, many games of playing with damdred. this isn't damdred. damdred is one of the nicest guys on the planet, but he has this habit of getting all emo when people discount his reads and don't pay attention to him. he knows he's not good at replicating that emotion as scum...and this typo 'outburst' is entirely wrong

like i haven't been happy with him all game but that post is not town damdred. this is not a 'last game' vs 'this game' thing.

@df i skimmed over part and didn't give a fuck cause i'm town and never ever getting lynched this game. if there's something you want to ask me, go for it


I agree and I said as much.
It's just that I have other very strong candidates to mull over.

If I can't get them lynched I'll move my vote later.


;o; but i'm like...80% certain I'm right

with the other 20% being like...maybe he's high or underwent major personality changes since last I played with him

80% is fucking insane for me on a d1


It's not me you have to convince, I really want to lynch damdred as well.
The way votes are looking copcake and superbia don't seem like likely lynches, so you'll probably get your way in the end.


\o/

i didn't bother reading the rest of df's filter >> that's probably awful but i honestly don't care lol ><

meh something about cake made me go...well she's obstinately doing the same things she's getting scumread for over and over...seems dumb as scum

super idk. he seems to be playing his town game to me...i don't have a high bar for him. early in my TL career i kept lynching town super. like basically it boils down to i kinda think he's town, and certainly not scum for active lurking or any of the other things he always does anyway, but i'm not certain enough (and prob never will be) to defend him

daaaamdred is a way better lynch
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:04 GMT
#999
On August 02 2017 02:00 Conversion wrote:
hi rsoul can I get your opinion on why tictock is town read for you? I don't like his posts and I'd rather lynch him over damdred personally


i don't think i ever said he was? you do understand 80% sure, don't you? tt's list post wasn't completely horrible, and generally he was in a soup with several people i was iffy on, but damdred is scum

like damdred brought me to this site years ago. i know damdred. i was getting tictock mixed up with someone whose name rhymed, for heaven's sake lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:05 GMT
#1000
On August 02 2017 02:02 Tumblewood wrote:
when i went to sleep there were only 37 pages. (damn euros.) did i miss anything big


damdred is scum. you should vote for him ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:07 GMT
#1002
On August 02 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 02:02 Tumblewood wrote:
when i went to sleep there were only 37 pages. (damn euros.) did i miss anything big


I found a new scum.


if you don't say it's damdred i'm gonna throw a shoe at you :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:14 GMT
#1007
On August 02 2017 02:10 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 02:04 rsoultin wrote:
On August 02 2017 02:00 Conversion wrote:
hi rsoul can I get your opinion on why tictock is town read for you? I don't like his posts and I'd rather lynch him over damdred personally


i don't think i ever said he was? you do understand 80% sure, don't you? tt's list post wasn't completely horrible, and generally he was in a soup with several people i was iffy on, but damdred is scum

like damdred brought me to this site years ago. i know damdred. i was getting tictock mixed up with someone whose name rhymed, for heaven's sake lol ><


ok. just for me, semantically, 80% sure is like you're pretty much town just try harder in my head. apologies for mixing that up and I just wanted some clarification. I just really don't like TT's presence/posts


80% sure damdred is scum beats...itches about people. all i had before was itches and waffles and ???s
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:18 GMT
#1011
-twitches-

like super and tt both could be scum, sure, but damdred is

it's better than voting koshi, ruxx, btdt or whatever...but damdred is scum

and like maybe it's early for me to say this but why if no one whatsoever townreads damdred is no one voting him? <- yeah, it's probably early, but eeeeeh

not against a tt lynch i'm just not nearly as certain he'd flip scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:19 GMT
#1013
On August 02 2017 02:15 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 02:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 02 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
On August 02 2017 02:02 Tumblewood wrote:
when i went to sleep there were only 37 pages. (damn euros.) did i miss anything big


I found a new scum.


if you don't say it's damdred i'm gonna throw a shoe at you :/


I've always wondered how it's like to walk in high heels.


meh super isn't scum for 'active lurking' though. he simply isn't. did you have other reasons?

and lol, i've always wondered, too, but not enough to bother with torture
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:20 GMT
#1014
On August 02 2017 02:18 ruXxar wrote:
Honestly, what phone today doesn't have an automatic spellchecker?
Is he running around with a nokia 3310 or something?


autocorrect pwns me so...-shrugs-

not even sure why this is relevant?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:22 GMT
#1017
On August 02 2017 02:21 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 02:20 rsoultin wrote:
On August 02 2017 02:18 ruXxar wrote:
Honestly, what phone today doesn't have an automatic spellchecker?
Is he running around with a nokia 3310 or something?


autocorrect pwns me so...-shrugs-

not even sure why this is relevant?


Im saying its not natural to have that many typos writing from a phone.
Heck, I write better on my phone than on my keyboard.


and i don't. and this is nai regardless @.@ who cares if he has trouble writing on a phone?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 17:24 GMT
#1020
On August 02 2017 02:21 Conversion wrote:
well tbh if Superbia and TT actually do what I ask I'll reevaluate. But right now it's between those two, leaning towards TT over Superbia at this point

I don't think Damdred IS scum as you say, and I don't think your argument is strong enough to convince me otherwise.. sorry!

and I don't use a spellchecker on my phone. slows me down more than helps me


but he is! there is nothing smart or sexy about any of his posting, he says a lot of nothing, and he blows up over nothing

can you honestly say he's contributed more than either tt OR superbia? by more, i don't mean more posts, i mean intelligence and unique insights (low-post count is normal for him). maybe this is just my bias talking, but i'd rather have him solving the game with me than either of those two

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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