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this game is becoming exciting (= lunch break for me, then I'll be right back. Game might be almost solved now
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HF / Koshi / Rels unstoppable town circle (=
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On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.
I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.
Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.
Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg.
yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that.
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Superbia's filter:
Hard townread Cake, and HF / Koshi at the end.
Main scumreads: ruxxar / DF. He even called for a DF vig shot two times:
On August 03 2017 01:19 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 01:17 darthfoley wrote:On August 03 2017 01:16 Superbia wrote:On August 03 2017 01:15 darthfoley wrote:On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:On August 03 2017 01:08 darthfoley wrote:Let's look at Superbia, the leader of the town EoD! + Show Spoiler +On August 02 2017 05:25 Superbia wrote:
That's a lot of people suddenly wanting to vote DF.
DF, defense please. x: On August 02 2017 05:28 Superbia wrote:
TT spit some sick logic beats pls On August 02 2017 05:32 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote:
Like I really don't think it's accurate to characterize my play as being bandwagoning. I've been transparent with my reads and answered questions posed to me. I'm gonna be around till EoD because i'll be damned if I get mislynched based off of nothing If you could not lynch TT or myself, who'd you lynch? On August 02 2017 05:34 Superbia wrote:
Opinions on Ruxxar now please.
Town or mafia? What do people think? why the fuck do you care about AFK ruxxar when it's clear it's going to be TT vs. me On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote:
In what world is TW ever town? interesting how you never vote on him or try to start a wagon on him On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
wow my reasons to townread df are waay weaker than i thought. df as scum could explain some things (ie why everyone is town) but the case against him seems pretty weak as well Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^ I agreed on this point. On August 02 2017 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm no longer up for DF either at this point. Great! So you should be voting for one of the two people you said were scummy (Damdred, TW) or the main wagon TT On August 02 2017 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Meh.
So it comes down to TT or TW.
Rels bring us something good z_z So now I am out of your calculus for the final 2. Great, seeing as i'm town, but what do you do next? On August 02 2017 05:42 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare
1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game
woa that's actually a decent case. Unsure. Maybe. Oh, now maybe HF is a good lynch train to hop on. On August 02 2017 05:45 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's lynch Holyflare.
##unvote
##vote Holyflare
Yes, over CopCake and Damdred. lol I think it's a waste 'cause if he's town he's forced to play like that and he didn't do a bad job. And if he's scum and faking it we should know sooner or later when we know more about the mechanics. Pretty good post. Nvm, now you think Btdt's idea is bad like 2 seconds later. What a change in conscience On August 02 2017 05:49 Superbia wrote:I really really want to lynch ruxxar, I think.  Okay... On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.
I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.
Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here. Why DF? Already explained why this post is trash On August 02 2017 06:30 Superbia wrote:
:/ tl;dr there's about 40 inconsistencies with Superbia's EoD play: 1) implies that i'm town because of votes piling up, then says outright he's not comfortable with EoD. There was still 20 minutes left before EoD when he said this, and had time to try and lynch ruxxar, TW or Damdred instead. 2) He goes from thinking btdt's idea is decent to think Rels is a town god for point out that it isn't within 3 minutes 3) He NEVER votes for any of the people he says he's suspicious of. Never TW, never ruxxar, never Damdred. He switches between TT and myself, both of whom he says are probably town. 4) The fact that he claims to have "led" the town EoD is so false that it is a lynchable offense regardless of alignment. How does any of this make me mafia? 4. Nobody was doing fucking anything. I queried for lynch preferences and was pretty much the closest thing to a leader town had at EoD. (lynch preferences don't matter if the main wagons are town). If you were the leader of the town, why didn't you start a wagon on Tumblewood, ruxxar or Damdred? Did I not fucking ask people whether anyone wanted to lynch TW/Ruxxar? And what sort of reaction did I get? A leader does not ask people what they want to do and waffles. A leader tells people what they should do, and why. Ask town!HF or town!Koshi about what a leader does, and it will be clear that you were not a leader.  Cool story. I did not feel good enough about my reads on either TW nor Ruxxar to actively push them. So I asked instead. It just seems like you are trying to actively frustrate me instead of evaluation. KP this man.
On August 03 2017 01:24 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 01:22 darthfoley wrote:On August 03 2017 01:19 Superbia wrote:On August 03 2017 01:17 darthfoley wrote:On August 03 2017 01:16 Superbia wrote:On August 03 2017 01:15 darthfoley wrote:On August 03 2017 01:12 Superbia wrote:On August 03 2017 01:08 darthfoley wrote:Let's look at Superbia, the leader of the town EoD! + Show Spoiler +On August 02 2017 05:25 Superbia wrote:
That's a lot of people suddenly wanting to vote DF.
DF, defense please. x: On August 02 2017 05:28 Superbia wrote:
TT spit some sick logic beats pls On August 02 2017 05:32 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:31 darthfoley wrote:
Like I really don't think it's accurate to characterize my play as being bandwagoning. I've been transparent with my reads and answered questions posed to me. I'm gonna be around till EoD because i'll be damned if I get mislynched based off of nothing If you could not lynch TT or myself, who'd you lynch? On August 02 2017 05:34 Superbia wrote:
Opinions on Ruxxar now please.
Town or mafia? What do people think? why the fuck do you care about AFK ruxxar when it's clear it's going to be TT vs. me On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote:
In what world is TW ever town? interesting how you never vote on him or try to start a wagon on him On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
wow my reasons to townread df are waay weaker than i thought. df as scum could explain some things (ie why everyone is town) but the case against him seems pretty weak as well Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^ I agreed on this point. On August 02 2017 05:39 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm no longer up for DF either at this point. Great! So you should be voting for one of the two people you said were scummy (Damdred, TW) or the main wagon TT On August 02 2017 05:41 Superbia wrote:
Meh.
So it comes down to TT or TW.
Rels bring us something good z_z So now I am out of your calculus for the final 2. Great, seeing as i'm town, but what do you do next? On August 02 2017 05:42 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually let's lynch Holyflare
1. the russian stuff is super weird
2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks
3. "contributions"
4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally
5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game
woa that's actually a decent case. Unsure. Maybe. Oh, now maybe HF is a good lynch train to hop on. On August 02 2017 05:45 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:44 Rels wrote:On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's lynch Holyflare.
##unvote
##vote Holyflare
Yes, over CopCake and Damdred. lol I think it's a waste 'cause if he's town he's forced to play like that and he didn't do a bad job. And if he's scum and faking it we should know sooner or later when we know more about the mechanics. Pretty good post. Nvm, now you think Btdt's idea is bad like 2 seconds later. What a change in conscience On August 02 2017 05:49 Superbia wrote:I really really want to lynch ruxxar, I think. Okay... On August 02 2017 05:52 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 05:52 Tictock wrote:
HF is not a good yolo lynch.
I think I feel ok about a DF lynch.
Did Ruxx have an excuse to not be around for EoD? I'd have expected him to be here. Why DF? Already explained why this post is trash On August 02 2017 06:30 Superbia wrote:
:/ tl;dr there's about 40 inconsistencies with Superbia's EoD play: 1) implies that i'm town because of votes piling up, then says outright he's not comfortable with EoD. There was still 20 minutes left before EoD when he said this, and had time to try and lynch ruxxar, TW or Damdred instead. 2) He goes from thinking btdt's idea is decent to think Rels is a town god for point out that it isn't within 3 minutes 3) He NEVER votes for any of the people he says he's suspicious of. Never TW, never ruxxar, never Damdred. He switches between TT and myself, both of whom he says are probably town. 4) The fact that he claims to have "led" the town EoD is so false that it is a lynchable offense regardless of alignment. How does any of this make me mafia? 4. Nobody was doing fucking anything. I queried for lynch preferences and was pretty much the closest thing to a leader town had at EoD. (lynch preferences don't matter if the main wagons are town). If you were the leader of the town, why didn't you start a wagon on Tumblewood, ruxxar or Damdred? Did I not fucking ask people whether anyone wanted to lynch TW/Ruxxar? And what sort of reaction did I get? A leader does not ask people what they want to do and waffles. A leader tells people what they should do, and why. Ask town!HF or town!Koshi about what a leader does, and it will be clear that you were not a leader. Cool story. I did not feel good enough about my reads on either TW nor Ruxxar to actively push them. So I asked instead. It just seems like you are trying to actively frustrate me instead of evaluation. KP this man. You said TW could never be town. And didn't vote for him Case closed Gold Leader KP this troll. I'm tired of this shit.
Also a weak scumread on TW.
ruxxar as scum would have definitely shot him. Especially if he's scum with DF or TW.
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On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.
I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.
Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.
Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg. yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that. I know, haven't had a power role in a long time. Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time.
Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people.
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On August 03 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
Let's just not auto to Ruxxar this day. Let's have wagons.
agree with the "no auto" thought, it's never a good idea. But I will vote for the dude that is most likely to flip scum.
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Now copcake reads. She was shot by BTDT and ruxxar tried (and maybe succeeded, we don't know since BTDT also admited to shoot her) to kill her with vodka + matches.
Obviously her ruxxar scumread. But it seemed to change during the night, even if at EON I think she got back to scumreading ruxxar - it's not clear. What's clear is that she scumreads DF more and that she doesn't think DF / ruxxar can be a team.
Main scumreads were BTDT and DF.
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lol DF were scumreads by all thread dead. Dead players scumread:
DF: rsoul, cake, superbia
ruxxar cake (weak), superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)
BTDT: cake
VA: rsoul
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On August 03 2017 20:42 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 20:37 Holyflare wrote:
Я называю вас мафией или, по крайней мере, 3p. Я думаю, что ваша сила - это что-то вроде отложенного кп для русских людей. Вы - морфеус и можете сделать «предложение», и поскольку это не лекарство, и вы не исцелили меня, и вы сказали, что дали «rsoultin» «выбор». Я думаю, вероятно, что выбор, вероятно, либо умрет, либо что-то плохое. I think if he was indeed 3p, he wouldn't have crumbed that so hardcore in thread. Morpheus is Neo-aligned (pretty hard Neo-aligned even) and I think having the role of Morpheus means the alignment "town".
again that means nothing. And there is already a counter example in the game. Mr Smith is a bad guy but was town.
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Damdred you need to come post more. You disappearing after putting the effort to convince rsoul is annoying
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On August 03 2017 20:45 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 20:42 Rels wrote:
lol DF were scumreads by all thread dead. Dead players scumread:
DF: rsoul, cake, superbia
ruxxar cake (weak), superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)
BTDT: cake
VA: rsoul Yes but Cake was killed by me, so this list would be more accurate if you look for scum based on kills: DF: rsoul, superbia ruxxar: superbia TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak) Night kills point towards DF.
That's what I thought at first, but ruxxar claims to have tried to shot her with vodka + matches.
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On August 03 2017 20:56 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 20:48 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 20:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 20:42 Rels wrote:
lol DF were scumreads by all thread dead. Dead players scumread:
DF: rsoul, cake, superbia
ruxxar cake (weak), superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)
BTDT: cake
VA: rsoul Yes but Cake was killed by me, so this list would be more accurate if you look for scum based on kills: DF: rsoul, superbia ruxxar: superbia TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak) Night kills point towards DF. That's what I thought at first, but ruxxar claims to have tried to shot her with vodka + matches. So you don't believe my claim?
Yes I think I believe it. What I mean is that even if you're town and you shot her, scum!ruxxar also tried to shoot her. So you can't eliminate her from the "shot by scum" list.
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On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.
I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.
Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.
Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg. yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that. I know, haven't had a power role in a long time. Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time. Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people. Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done. The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF. The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF. I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information. If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT.
K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF:
On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать. I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia. Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df. People who just scoot by without getting noticed.
and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.
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On August 03 2017 21:03 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 20:59 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote:
ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1? I don't know. Someone must've given them to me. I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time. Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1? I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying.IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good
I didn't.
I don't understand the bolded, who are you referencing ?
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On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.
I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.
Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.
Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg. yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that. I know, haven't had a power role in a long time. Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time. Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people. Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done. The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF. The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF. I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information. If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT. K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF: Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать. I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia. Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df. People who just scoot by without getting noticed. and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work.
like, you're drawing an association between DF and the lazy voters, but you didn't shoot DF to verify it, nor you scumread DF very strongly. There is a disconnect here.
Points to you being partners TBH.
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On August 03 2017 21:07 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 21:06 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 21:03 Conversion wrote:On August 03 2017 20:59 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote:
ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1? I don't know. Someone must've given them to me. I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time. Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1? I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying.IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good I didn't. I don't understand the bolded, who are you referencing ? TicTock was the one who tried to give ruxxar matches. He confirmed it didn't do anything D1, and then got lynched. Unless items can be given posthumously, I'm going under the idea that the matches never got to ruxxar
Oh yeah I remember that. It's a good point actually. Don't know who would give away matches to another person D1 without more info. But TT specifically said he would give the matches to ruxxar. So we need to find out if (1) items can be given during the day and (2) if they can be given even if you're llynched at the same time.
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On August 03 2017 21:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.
I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.
Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.
Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg. yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that. I know, haven't had a power role in a long time. Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time. Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people. Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done. The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF. The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF. I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information. If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT. K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF: On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать. I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia. Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df. People who just scoot by without getting noticed. and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work. Nah, they're scummy on their own, but even more scummy if DF is scum.
well we get back to the original question then. Why, apart from inactivity ? Cause that was my question and you answered "The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF.
The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF."
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On August 03 2017 21:22 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 21:15 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 21:14 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 20:55 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote:On August 03 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote:
I have no defense against me lying about who I shot.
In hindsight it was very stupid.
I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up.
Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum.
Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg. yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that. I know, haven't had a power role in a long time. Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time. Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people. Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done. The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF. The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF. I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information. If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT. K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF: On August 03 2017 19:16 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote:
Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать. I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia. Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df. People who just scoot by without getting noticed. and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work. Nah, they're scummy on their own, but even more scummy if DF is scum. well we get back to the original question then. Why, apart from inactivity ? Cause that was my question and you answered "The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF. The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF." It's a general theme: -Inactivity -Forgettable(blending in) -No will to solve the game when they show up(not making any waves or pushing people) -Weak reads/no reads -Excuses to be afk In my eyes they might as well not even be in the game. I rate thread engagement very highly as town favored. You don't need to be super active, but at least when you are here, talk about the actual topics that are important and current in the game. Throw out some original thoughts. Don't be afraid to push your scum reads. I don't see that in any of those.
that's the most generic thing you can use to scumread someone. Can you do a case on the dude you think is most likely scum ? A real case, no generic "he's AFK and has weak read" stuff.
Like for example, Damdred AFKing is NOT scum indicative. He's known to AFK recently. But him putting a lot of effort to convince rsoul THEN rsoul dies and he AFK again IS scum indicative.
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On August 03 2017 21:46 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred также оказал большое влияние, не сказав ничего. А потом афк?
yep
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