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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 01 2017 17:53 GMT
#1041
Ruxxar feels scummy to me because he does not seem to be re-evaluating at any point in time. It's just like "oh, person X shows up, I haven't given a read on you yet, you're going to be mafia". Reasoning has been very flimsy as well. After it becomes clear that the reason he scumreads me is NAI for me, he's still like "oh but it's scummy behaviour LOL" and starts arguing about that.

Doesn't seem like my (or anyone's) actual alignment matters to him at all.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 01 2017 17:53 GMT
#1042
Rant on how I feel bout ruxxar ^
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 01 2017 17:54 GMT
#1043
On August 02 2017 02:52 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 02:48 Superbia wrote:
On August 02 2017 02:24 rsoultin wrote:
On August 02 2017 02:21 Conversion wrote:
well tbh if Superbia and TT actually do what I ask I'll reevaluate. But right now it's between those two, leaning towards TT over Superbia at this point

I don't think Damdred IS scum as you say, and I don't think your argument is strong enough to convince me otherwise.. sorry!

and I don't use a spellchecker on my phone. slows me down more than helps me


but he is! there is nothing smart or sexy about any of his posting, he says a lot of nothing, and he blows up over nothing

can you honestly say he's contributed more than either tt OR superbia? by more, i don't mean more posts, i mean intelligence and unique insights (low-post count is normal for him). maybe this is just my bias talking, but i'd rather have him solving the game with me than either of those two



Tempted to lynch you for this.


I am one of the "I trust Superbia" persons so pls tell me why are you town?


Uhh, because I rolled town? Idk. I don't think I've done that much alignment indicative stuff this game unless you know my playstyle well.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 01 2017 17:54 GMT
#1044
I've made some decent-ish posts but I do that regardless of alignment I think.
Minimal effort.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 01 2017 18:03 GMT
#1045
TT's reasoning for voting VA over Damdred is pretty poo btw.

On August 01 2017 08:24 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 22:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
is there any reason to change my vote? Tictock has like a page of filter about HF's roleplay since then and he gave a box of matches to ruxxar who is not that townie. Box of matches is bad.


Does any of that make me scum?

I doubt this is an accurate summary of my filter but I can't be bothered to check.


This felt scummy to me at the time and I called him out for it. His filter was like 1 page at the time, easily verifiable, yet doesn't do it cuz lulzZz i'm so lazy. The first sentence implies that it IS indeed true (does any of it make me scum) followed by a sentence that then claims he "doubts the accuracy."

On August 01 2017 13:48 Tictock wrote:
VA is hypocrit. He scum reads me for giving away an item to ruxx yet has been asking for things himself.

I also don't get this connection he is drawing between Rux and myself. He suggests that we are somehow coordinating this item thing via a QT or something but then says one of us should be flipped to figure it out.

I'd also like to know how he knows anything about these matches when I myself have no clue what they could be used for.


So basically he's scumreading VA for mechanics related reasons, which isn't inherently bad. However, being a hypocrite is not an AI conclusion in this case IMO. His next post...

On August 01 2017 13:53 Tictock wrote:
I don't like Damdred's read on me. Calling me lackluster is a copout read imo. Not sure what he is expecting of me when I've been clear about my time constraints and it's also been ages since I have played. He should also be fairly aware that I've been mislynched as Town before for being "lackluster"


This is a much more "solid" read, incorporating Damdred's reads, meta, saying he's copping out. I don't disagree with his assessment, so I am waiting to see him vote Damdred, considering there's some beef to this scum read (though he never actually calls Damdred scum.) He follows this with

On August 01 2017 14:10 Tictock wrote:
##Vote: VayneAuthority

VA and Damdred are who stand out to me ATM, but I feel better about a VA lynch for now.

Besides OMGUS the only thing I have against Damdred is he isn't standing out as Town to me like he often does. Neither of those are strong enough for a vote imo.

I could go either way with Ruxx ATM. Would be interested to hear why Koshi has him as lock Town.

Conversion is another one I'm unsure about. I really disliked his reactions to being pressured earlier and his opening did feel a bit off. Scummy side of null is where I'd put him if I had an actual list right now.

BtDt has been pretty active and engaged but a few of his reads feel off to me. I think the main thing hat stuck out to me was the bit on HF. I'd be more cautious about Town reading him than most have been thus far.

I think Rsoul, Cake, and Koshi are my easy Town reads for now. Cake and Rsoul for effort and pushing their own thoughts, Koshi more for tone.

Tumble seems Town, he can have a pass for now.

Everyone else (DF, and whoever else I'm forgetting right this second) I just don't have enough on to make a read on.

I also eagerly await anything from Rels with an alignment.


He downplays his accusation of Damdred in the following big reads post. Now he's just null reading (although he keeps implying a scum read of Damdred somewhere) for OMGUS-- which is a convenient reason to back off of someone-- and "not standing out" which is not really what he just accused him of earlier. He claims it's not enough of a reason to vote for Damdred... but VA being a hypocrite is?

In fact, the more I read it, the more TT's sentence about Damdred seems off. It seems as if he felt the need to justify voting VA > Damdred. Comes across as over-explanation. Really not a fan.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 01 2017 18:05 GMT
#1046
I'm still most confident with TT getting lynched. So i'm staying on TT.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 01 2017 18:13 GMT
#1047
I have never seen you to be mafia but so far I dont anything odd with you nor I see you to be sketchy, I imagine you to be a shadow king type of mafia that would let other people do the dirty work for you and then come and say "I told you so", I even believe that you would betray and sell your companion to win towns side if it was necessary.

Either way those are my 2 cents on you following your pattern of games (Which is like the one I remember the most because I admire your mind) The other one I remember is Tina's but she isnt as nice as she used to, idk I have said before I think she would try to understand cake but her case on damdred feels so honest (I find him scummy too specially for his post clearing rels but not you is like he was trying to win rels)

If something the only not towny thing you have done is not to be very vocal but the way you treated the whole "we need to realize that maybe mafia didnt know they were mafia but let us not close to the possibility they could" speaks very good of you which is why I trust you are town.

I am almsot certain Tina is town but rn I am tinfoiling at the possibility that maybe she is being cute and shiny and vocal so later she can be "ah sorry my mistake" because one of her scummates was in the train of being lynched, as she said I am 80% sure she is town

From who I could see to be mafia is beentheredonethsy, damdred and ruxxar. Not gonna deny that maybe i am clouded at ruxxar but he has been giving stupid reasons and pointing fingers and not trying to understand and budding people to win favors, wanting the matches so badly, wanting people to role reveal, the whole "?" He did with you aghhh
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 18:16 GMT
#1048
On August 02 2017 02:47 Superbia wrote:
Lol rso did you read this before you decided to push damdred? ;p

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2017 00:16 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 00:09 CopCake wrote:
Either way Superbia since everyone suddenly is calling you mafia.

What do you think of my ruxxar case?

What do you think of rsoul being here like 5 min say she will cstch up and then leaving? You think she wanted to start a train with me in the beginning but didnt work?

What do you think of Damdred?

Also tiktok ks never mafia if Ruxxar is mafia.
- Rsoul is.. hard to read for me. I felt at a certain point in time that her direction was lacking. Felt like she was commenting on everything—but she did not seem to want to lynch someone, or was actively looking for someone to lynch. I have not revisited her filter with his thought in mind. So undecided for now..


I saw it in my skim and didn't care lol >< I know you're wrong and you'll either realize it when you bother to go through my filter or you're scum/not good at understanding the motivations behind my posts, take your pick ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 18:18 GMT
#1049
On August 02 2017 03:13 CopCake wrote:
I have never seen you to be mafia but so far I dont anything odd with you nor I see you to be sketchy, I imagine you to be a shadow king type of mafia that would let other people do the dirty work for you and then come and say "I told you so", I even believe that you would betray and sell your companion to win towns side if it was necessary.

Either way those are my 2 cents on you following your pattern of games (Which is like the one I remember the most because I admire your mind) The other one I remember is Tina's but she isnt as nice as she used to, idk I have said before I think she would try to understand cake but her case on damdred feels so honest (I find him scummy too specially for his post clearing rels but not you is like he was trying to win rels)

If something the only not towny thing you have done is not to be very vocal but the way you treated the whole "we need to realize that maybe mafia didnt know they were mafia but let us not close to the possibility they could" speaks very good of you which is why I trust you are town.

I am almsot certain Tina is town but rn I am tinfoiling at the possibility that maybe she is being cute and shiny and vocal so later she can be "ah sorry my mistake" because one of her scummates was in the train of being lynched, as she said I am 80% sure she is town

From who I could see to be mafia is beentheredonethsy, damdred and ruxxar. Not gonna deny that maybe i am clouded at ruxxar but he has been giving stupid reasons and pointing fingers and not trying to understand and budding people to win favors, wanting the matches so badly, wanting people to role reveal, the whole "?" He did with you aghhh

I have no clue why you think I'm nice @.@ I thought maybe you were confusion me with the or something. Voice mafia is not forum mafia
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 01 2017 18:18 GMT
#1050
You are forever town for calling me a "shadow king" type of mafia player. That sounds so badass. :D (Joke, but you are still high town in my circle)

I also feel like the same way on rso's push on damd. Makes her townie and it even looks pretty decent.
Minimal effort.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 18:19 GMT
#1051
Hts...proof that autocorrect is a bitch
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 01 2017 18:20 GMT
#1052
Damd being mafia would be a little boring though. Especially if TT is too.
Minimal effort.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 01 2017 18:20 GMT
#1053
On August 02 2017 03:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:13 CopCake wrote:
I have never seen you to be mafia but so far I dont anything odd with you nor I see you to be sketchy, I imagine you to be a shadow king type of mafia that would let other people do the dirty work for you and then come and say "I told you so", I even believe that you would betray and sell your companion to win towns side if it was necessary.

Either way those are my 2 cents on you following your pattern of games (Which is like the one I remember the most because I admire your mind) The other one I remember is Tina's but she isnt as nice as she used to, idk I have said before I think she would try to understand cake but her case on damdred feels so honest (I find him scummy too specially for his post clearing rels but not you is like he was trying to win rels)

If something the only not towny thing you have done is not to be very vocal but the way you treated the whole "we need to realize that maybe mafia didnt know they were mafia but let us not close to the possibility they could" speaks very good of you which is why I trust you are town.

I am almsot certain Tina is town but rn I am tinfoiling at the possibility that maybe she is being cute and shiny and vocal so later she can be "ah sorry my mistake" because one of her scummates was in the train of being lynched, as she said I am 80% sure she is town

From who I could see to be mafia is beentheredonethsy, damdred and ruxxar. Not gonna deny that maybe i am clouded at ruxxar but he has been giving stupid reasons and pointing fingers and not trying to understand and budding people to win favors, wanting the matches so badly, wanting people to role reveal, the whole "?" He did with you aghhh

I have no clue why you think I'm nice @.@ I thought maybe you were confusion me with the or something. Voice mafia is not forum mafia


I have played with you before, you are bubbly, cute and stuff.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 01 2017 18:21 GMT
#1054
CC if you happen to be mafia this is some top class pocketing
Minimal effort.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 18:21 GMT
#1055
On August 02 2017 03:05 darthfoley wrote:
I'm still most confident with TT getting lynched. So i'm staying on TT.

Know that if damdred is getting lynched and tt isn't and you don't lynch damdred I'm gunning for you bby. Fair warning.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 18:23 GMT
#1056
On August 02 2017 03:20 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2017 03:18 rsoultin wrote:
On August 02 2017 03:13 CopCake wrote:
I have never seen you to be mafia but so far I dont anything odd with you nor I see you to be sketchy, I imagine you to be a shadow king type of mafia that would let other people do the dirty work for you and then come and say "I told you so", I even believe that you would betray and sell your companion to win towns side if it was necessary.

Either way those are my 2 cents on you following your pattern of games (Which is like the one I remember the most because I admire your mind) The other one I remember is Tina's but she isnt as nice as she used to, idk I have said before I think she would try to understand cake but her case on damdred feels so honest (I find him scummy too specially for his post clearing rels but not you is like he was trying to win rels)

If something the only not towny thing you have done is not to be very vocal but the way you treated the whole "we need to realize that maybe mafia didnt know they were mafia but let us not close to the possibility they could" speaks very good of you which is why I trust you are town.

I am almsot certain Tina is town but rn I am tinfoiling at the possibility that maybe she is being cute and shiny and vocal so later she can be "ah sorry my mistake" because one of her scummates was in the train of being lynched, as she said I am 80% sure she is town

From who I could see to be mafia is beentheredonethsy, damdred and ruxxar. Not gonna deny that maybe i am clouded at ruxxar but he has been giving stupid reasons and pointing fingers and not trying to understand and budding people to win favors, wanting the matches so badly, wanting people to role reveal, the whole "?" He did with you aghhh

I have no clue why you think I'm nice @.@ I thought maybe you were confusion me with the or something. Voice mafia is not forum mafia


I have played with you before, you are bubbly, cute and stuff.

Lol sorry you're just wrong. Annoying, stubborn, vulgar are more accurate descriptors. But carry on. This isn't worth arguing about
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 01 2017 18:23 GMT
#1057
Rsoultin I am confused

You said thay you have played with me before when I was scum and even brought or mentioned a game and now you say that voice mafia doesnt count.

I am confused here.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 01 2017 18:27 GMT
#1058
On August 02 2017 03:21 Superbia wrote:
CC if you happen to be mafia this is some top class pocketing


I dislike to pocket people tbh is cheap, I preffer to blow up minds and get praise for being too good at lying. But the secret to be a good mafia is to not lie :D but still fool town.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 01 2017 18:30 GMT
#1059
On August 02 2017 03:23 CopCake wrote:
Rsoultin I am confused

You said thay you have played with me before when I was scum and even brought or mentioned a game and now you say that voice mafia doesnt count.

I am confused here.

Really really would rather continue the kill damdred crusade but okay...

I don't think you've ever played forum mafia with me when you were town. And my voice mafia game is a lot lighter cause I'm not emotionally invested. I'm not a nice forum player as either alignment. At least that's my perception, and given your reaction to me this game, assuming you're town, it would be yours, too -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 01 2017 18:47 GMT
#1060
yeah kill the damdred dude. He probably deserves it tbh.

but just in case it does happen and i actually die here are them sick reads.

copcake is always town, never scum ( or very very rarely).

The first substantial thing she does is go against thread sentiment and bring attention to herself. While cop might be a good scum player (she is btw), I thinkbit woild be better if scum would fit in at that juncture and not draw a suoer amount of attention. And then when shebis pushed proded and generally called scum, she does not drop it. She fights for her view and uses it to scum read people.

She is super focused om her reads and keeps drawing peoples attention to them throughout d1, you can tell ahe cares about her reads and honestly thats towny. Her re evaluation of ruxxar also points to town.

The final piece is that she is the first tin hatbin the thread, tgis is the weakest point but thebither parts make he town ajyway.

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