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On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:
so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started
Didn't read the entire thread while trying to come off as he did. Gut says ctrl-F on finding his name on a scum list. Fine lynch.
Aaaaand that's all I've got time for this morning.
Though, unrelated, TT is that how to give items?
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Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.)
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On July 31 2017 09:51 Damdred wrote:
I to wish to understand the great going on of this nation.
I die of thin rux is town for bad reasons heh.
And a gut feeling on tt
Well no not a secret read just not sure what alignment your gut feeling is indicating? -pokepoke- Also, talk to me Damdy!
Leaning town on ruxxy myself. Happy bouncy guy. Also light townread on the Holyflare which is frankly exciting lol >< It's been so looooong. Hm. Anyone else I feel more or less good about? Well I could just give D1 passes to everyone reacting to role updates mentioned above based on mad!theory, but discounting that not really getting a read on Super. VA can be allowed to do what he does for a bit longer, too. Larger (read:scummier) fish to fry.
Cake is still making me itch a bit. Could 100% be confirmation bias + mad!theory but...I don't know what she's choosing to scumread people on is just ick.
'now' - Holyflare (this one maybe I could get if she has no sense of humor)
'if' - ruxxar (this is just not a good read ever and more to the point should be understandable from the perspective of someone who also doesn't know their alignment/role. only caveat is there's a possibility she genuinely expects all people who receive role pms with no alignment/role to assume they're vanilla town...not sure I but that but I'll grant it's possible)
Then the last bit...what is she trying to point out, bluehunting?
I could be totally wrong but these are just such easy, non-analytical things to point out. Semantics that could indicate someone isn't sure they're town or bluehunting. Not impressed. Her townread on me is slightly better given the observation about people talking to me, but the 'you're town because you're thinking like rsoultin' I'm not sure I 100% buy. (Still waiting on an answer as to what you think a town!rsoul thinks like, Cake.)
Ooooh now I'm waffling again between Cake and Conversion lol >< Maybe I'd slightly prefer Conversion on the grounds that my mad theory could be wrong...Cake's scumreads really do bug me though :/
Oh well! Plenty of time to decide ^^
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Yeeeah Cake was scum in Slam's game. Really not sure I've seen her town game at all lol >< pfffffft. I certainly don't remember if I have.
Also not 100% sure why this feels towny to me, but it kind of does?
On July 31 2017 09:18 Tumblewood wrote:
i'm hesitant to do things just because i can do things
I don't know, it just doesn't feel like something scum would think to post, I guess? Weak but whatevs. Rest of the filter I'm waffly on though, so I guess disregard for now.
Okaaaay will stop spamming now...kind of sad no one is around to talk to :/ Only have a few minutes left.
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On July 31 2017 14:24 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.) Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update?
Lol, yup. You telling me I missed something?
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Yo, yo, conversion, where are people at on him? -wrangles an add ruxxy-
Would love to have your take on conversion, too, Cake.
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On July 31 2017 14:28 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:26 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:24 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.) Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update? Lol, yup. You telling me I missed something? Just answer me You are saying I didnt react to roles updated?
Yup means yes.
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On July 31 2017 14:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:28 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:26 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:24 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.) Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update? Lol, yup. You telling me I missed something? Just answer me You are saying I didnt react to roles updated? Yup means yes.
Though not really sure why you find that most important. Btdt isn't on my scumlist - still working out where I stand on his alignment. The main part of my issue with you is your scumreads.
Also, thoughts on Conversion?
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On July 31 2017 14:32 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:29 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:28 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:26 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:24 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.) Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update? Lol, yup. You telling me I missed something? Just answer me You are saying I didnt react to roles updated? Yup means yes. You are lying, I reacted to them, even asked superbia to check ^^ the posts 425 and the next one I think when Superbia quotes himself with the hard claiming a power role and Ruxar wrote "?" Because he probably didnt get a role pm which means that as mafia ^^ he already knew his status.
Noooo, I'm saying you didn't react to getting a role pm yourself. Has nothing to do with the very late poke at Superbia. Though that is interesting. You were pointing out Super claiming a role early game and not bluehunting from ruxxy? I read that wrong, then.
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On July 31 2017 13:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:
so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started Didn't read the entire thread while trying to come off as he did. Gut says ctrl-F on finding his name on a scum list. Fine lynch.Aaaaand that's all I've got time for this morning. Though, unrelated, TT is that how to give items?
You don't agree with my point here then, ruxxy? Why not?
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On July 31 2017 05:43 ruXxar wrote:
Comrades, I have received news that I have been appropriated as a legal citizen of the great arstotzka.
This is a most enjoyus day of all, that I have waited for all my life.
Glory to Arstotzka.
Lol, God, Cake. He clearly reacted to getting a role pm before he responded to super. So you are using that to scumread ruxxy, only for reasons that don't make sense.
I mean I guess it could be reading comprehension, maybe? You do get that this post was claiming a role pm don't you? Lol. It has to be reading comprehension, actually, unless you're trying to lie as scum ^^
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On July 31 2017 14:40 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:35 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:32 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:29 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:28 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:26 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:24 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.) Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update? Lol, yup. You telling me I missed something? Just answer me You are saying I didnt react to roles updated? Yup means yes. You are lying, I reacted to them, even asked superbia to check ^^ the posts 425 and the next one I think when Superbia quotes himself with the hard claiming a power role and Ruxar wrote "?" Because he probably didnt get a role pm which means that as mafia ^^ he already knew his status. Noooo, I'm saying you didn't react to getting a role pm yourself. Has nothing to do with the very late poke at Superbia. Though that is interesting. You were pointing out Super claiming a role early game and not bluehunting from ruxxy? I read that wrong, then. Why would I? I am not forced to post things "just in case" I am scum hunting, not gonna brag if I got a PR or not, why give mafia that advantage? 
Because a natural reaction for someone not sure of what alignment/role they are is to be excited when they find out. No reaction is possible, of course, which is why I'm not scumreading you for that alone. I even admitted it was a mad theory, and I will not continue to discuss it with you from this point forward because you're derailing me.
Though I will say that I find your lack of comprehension disingenuous and trying to determine whether or not that's because English is not your first language is giving me a headache @.@
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Anyway, no more time for this. I'll make it simple.
The main reason I scumread you is for shallow, surface-level scumreads and I believe you're a better player than that.
The main reason I scumread Conversion is his entry to the thread which seems to want to make people think he's read more than he has. Yelling about lynch/no-lynch? I'm fairly certain my post scumreading him came far enough back in the thread that he should have recognized the bolded was not happening. Could town do that? Yes. But I think it's more likely to come from scum, trying to make out that you're more invested in the game than you are.
And I'd like people to comment on both Cake and Conversion if they disagree. (Or if they agree just to stroke my ego ^^)
I have to go to work now. Toodles.
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Lol koshi can be town, he and super join no lynch d1 pile. Realistically Btdt is there too as more of a default.
Might bother to translate the Russian? when not on phone @.@
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On August 01 2017 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
I am very suspicious of tictock and ruxxar because im pretty sure I know exactly what the matches do, and it was completely out of nowhere unless they contact elsewhere.
But at the same top it just seems overly scummy/nonchalant so I don't know what to make of it.
Anyone also in favor of flipping ruxxar/tictock to figure this out should vote accordingly
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also, hi guys ^^ been skimming the thread throughout the day but I think I need a thorough read
here to talk
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On July 31 2017 14:53 CopCake wrote:Oh I find my reasons to scumread ruxxar to be right, just a different point if view. Also remember the newspaper said the first 24 hrs were not in vain, that makes me think my theory of mafia knowing who they were since the start is right I can also play the "I have played with you before" card and say that town!rsoultin would try to understand cake.
Yeah you do know that's holyflare and not holyflare given newspapers by the hosts, right? Unless you think joni is actually playing his own game. But it doesn't really matter. We won't agree on Ruxxar because your theory makes me think he's more likely town -shrugs-
(Also clearly haven't played with me enough if you think this isn't me trying to understand you Though I'll admit koshi is being such a well-behaved koshi he almost makes me ashamed lol)
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On July 31 2017 15:11 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:36 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 13:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:
so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started Didn't read the entire thread while trying to come off as he did. Gut says ctrl-F on finding his name on a scum list. Fine lynch.Aaaaand that's all I've got time for this morning. Though, unrelated, TT is that how to give items? You don't agree with my point here then, ruxxy? Why not? I've seen so many people have that "what's going on?" reaction in my last games and they all turned out to be town. I don't find it to be a very reliable scum indicator.
Not really what I meant, but I need to look back at it anyway to see if my impressions were correct. It felt like his comments were temporally displaced which is a lot different than just being like 'what's going on?'
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On July 31 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 13:41 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:35 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 01:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
This whole game is hard to play under the assumption that everyone's alignments are unknown. So I will assume right now that not everyone's alignment is unknown.
Soooo who knows his alignment yet? You seem very concerned with this question. Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern. Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I'm more curious why Btdt is getting so much of your attention. Why him? You mean like three whole posts? Mainly because I was asked to explain a read, and I personally detest his rage-induced blow ups every game. And the fact that he's already threatened to do so before everyone even gets role PMs irks me. His play feels scummy. I was in the car for 9 hours yesterday so I'll be able to play more today.
I mean like only real read, and it rubbed me wrong anyway to instantly jump on someone for showing emotion. The question was why him and only him as a read...I would think at least one other person might interest you. Carry on, though. It was early in the game.
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On July 31 2017 20:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 20:28 rsoultin wrote:
Lol koshi can be town, he and super join no lynch d1 pile. Realistically Btdt is there too as more of a default.
Might bother to translate the Russian? when not on phone @.@
It's pretty useless but the tldr is he thinks Ruxxar is mafia. Can you answer: Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 18:35 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 13:41 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
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You seem very concerned with this question. Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern. Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I'm more curious why Btdt is getting so much of your attention. Why him? Why is that a bother to you? Dnu this feels like an incriminating question while df is just playing the game.
It bothered me because Btdt was the only person he was commenting on, and on an NAI post at that (I realize that not everyone agrees that such posts are NAI, but whatever). If he'd focused on anything else, too, it wouldn't have stood out to me as much -shrugs-
(Also may just be a trigger after last game, not gonna lie. Doesn't negate the above.)
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