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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 17:32 GMT
#2152
On August 04 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 18:36 Koshi wrote:
On August 03 2017 18:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 18:13 Koshi wrote:
On August 03 2017 18:12 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt

Can you explain literally everything you did tonight?

I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded.


What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though.

You shot Superbia then.


You're right. I shot superbia.
I used vodka + matches on copcake.

You didn't because you didn't visit her.


I absolutely did.

You DIDN'T BECAUSE I WATCHED CC.
I saw CC visit CC and saw btdt visit CC.

That means you are untrackable but not know it yourself.
Probably need to learn it.

##vote Ruxxar

wait a fuckin second. i visited cc too


:o
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 17:35 GMT
#2156
On August 04 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote:
Если ва - город он никогда не будет иметь возможность использовать его способности и сейчас, и если он не мы будем probabky быть в зарубежная музыка в любом случае завтра.

Его вещь не имеет смысла от кого-то пытается использовать его способности и

как его действия нит смысла, в закрытом setup, вы должны всегда обработать его действия


If he's town he's going to get NKed by mafia, end of story.
You literally don't have to do anything and he's going to die.

If he's alive at the end of the night, you can lynch him as 90% guaranteed scum.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 17:38 GMT
#2159
On August 04 2017 02:32 Holyflare wrote:
Кто-нибудь в этой игре даже русский?

Это не совпадение, что ruxxar - российский шпион, и я вынужден говорить по-русски, не так ли?


LOL HF. I would not want the russian disease on my worst enemy.

It's so fun to play with you, why would I want to silence you with russian crap.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 17:39 GMT
#2161
On August 04 2017 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred, почему вы обеспокоены тем, что мафия ruxxar собирается дать предмет мафии VA ???.?


!!!!!!!
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 17:40 GMT
#2162
If I was scum with VA I wouldnt even need to have this conversation with VA in the thread.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 17:45 GMT
#2165
I don't like how damdred is thinking right now. It's definitely not a towny perspective.

Maybe I'll vote him over DF.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 20:11 GMT
#2198
On August 04 2017 05:06 Koshi wrote:
But I can't be that hero. Lying about shooting a townie and getting caught is fatal. And there was no reason to lie here as town. And he was steering town in the wrong direction with his analysis of the night kill. Making it uncertain it was rsoultin was killed by mafia. Which is anti town and pushes mafia agenda.


Do the right thing and vote for me koshi. Not lynching me would go against all conventions of good mafia play.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 20:14 GMT
#2199
So I just had a read through tumbles filter.

I have to say, despite low activity, there's nothing suspicious besides his last comment.
Everything is there and accounted for, no strange inconsistencies that I picked up on.

Flipping TW is not a good idea.

Next is DF then damdred.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 20:44 GMT
#2201
After reading DF's filter.
DF is either a really good mafia player or he's town.

+ Natural flow of thoughts in his filter
+ Good read development
+ Not afraid to stand his ground
+ Iniquisitve and bold.
+ Active and engaged.

I could pick out all the things in his filter, but you can just read it yourself.
I think DF is town despite what I thought earlier. If you are mafia then well played this game.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 20:46 GMT
#2202
On August 04 2017 05:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 05:03 Koshi wrote:
Lynching Damdred is more tempting than Ruxxar atm.

Do it.

Should scum!Ruxxar survive due to that => nominate btdt once more for worst town performance 2017 award
Should town!Ruxxar survive due to that => nominate ruxxar for worst town performance 2017 award

win win


No need for a nomination, just give me the prize already.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 20:47 GMT
#2203
Damdred next.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 21:57 GMT
#2205
Damdred:

1) Makes an assumption on something he doesn't believe in. Why bring it up?

On July 30 2017 07:36 Damdred wrote:
It's interesting, llike if we assume mafia know they are on a team (which is a huge assumltion and likely false). We would know somewhat that rels would be town hopefully


Why is it "hopefully" that rels should be town?
Do you have any bias for whether you want him to be town?
And if It's such a low chance that it's true why mention it?

I really dislike this post.

2) Either you think that scum knows their alignment or you dont. The first part of your sentence doesnt not connect logically with the second part.

On July 30 2017 22:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2017 22:36 ruXxar wrote:
On July 30 2017 22:33 Damdred wrote:
I don't understand how you can play a game by btdt without knowing alignments?


I dont understand what you are saying here.
Please rephrase.


Since most of us if not all of us do not know alignments, there is 0 way we can play the game until we do.

Unless we just rng the lynch onto btdt


Why just lynch btdt? This makes no sense, how is that tied into alignments in your previous sentence?

3) So 100% of town didn't get a role you say. Which means you belive that mafia got their roles right?

On July 31 2017 08:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 08:02 Tictock wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:44 Tumblewood wrote:
i have a role now. that is all i will say about it until further notice


Do you have an opinion about how we should scum hunt so far this game?

Is Ruxx right that we can throw out the first 24 hours, or do you think Cake might be onto something and scum knew their alignment right off?


I am not tumble but I feel like taking a crack at this.

1) Honestly we shoudl forget about the role shenanigans that is going on and we should just try to play normally, there is a lot of times that theme'd games just devolve into a mechanics guessing game and town loses because of it.

2) Until we got our pm i think we can throw out, or ignore it. Unless a real argument could be made when as far as we know 100% of town didn't know what was going on and everything was trolling to start with.


On July 31 2017 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 08:30 CopCake wrote:
On July 31 2017 08:25 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 08:21 CopCake wrote:
On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him.


Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h.

I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that.


No, no, no.

Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start.

If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia.


Why are you so convinced of this.
That is quite scummy.


What is scummy about it?

It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless.

Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out.

Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start).


Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns.


This is so dumb, Mafia can pretend to do not know a thing, you know?


I expect a mafia to type "I am town" not "I don't know my alignment" if they got a mafia role PM.
It's a very unique thing to write, and they wouldn't catch on until a couple people wrote it already.

Your argument doesn't make any sense.


Excuse me I don't understand your point.

What if the host told mafia "No one knows your pm but you" Ofc Mafia would write "I don't know my role" if not then Town would have a HUGE advantage ^^ and that would make Holy Flair mafia in your world if that was the case.


We can't play on what ifs however, and more than likely mafia did not know any more than town did that nobody would or would not know alignment.

And yes its a good logical conclusion that if scum knew its alignment they would start with I am town instead of IDK whats going on exactly here.


These two posts directly contradict each other, showing an inconsistency in his thought pattern on the early alignments.

In all of my posts up until now you can see him waffling and being inconsistent on this topic.
This suggest TMI.

4) He says VA is town for being involved in game mechanics and coming from a "helping town perspective".

On August 02 2017 04:05 Damdred wrote:
VA,

8/10 certainty that he is town here.

He is mechanically involved and interested in the game (matches), and through this mechanivs talk it feels like he is teuthfully trying to save town from something that would be negative for it.

He also has a couple of whatbI would term as goos logical steps and reevaluation. One would be where i said tt and rux woild never be scum togeter when previousky he thought they were both scum.

I think the way hebis aporoaching the game is both townybin thought process and seeming to come from a helping town motivation.


Yet later when VA explains what his ability does, and it's revealed that it's super town favored, he wants to lynch him??
For the exact same reason he was town-reading him for in the first place?
That doesn't make sense.

--- Post russian stuff ---

Not going to quote stuff here but mainly it's about his insistence on lynching VA.

VA revealed that he has a very powerful town favored role, and damdred is very concerned with wanting to lynch him.
This is absolutely not a towny reaction.

VA is either:

1) Going to use his role and reveal whether he is telling the truth.
2) Get night killed by mafia.

Either way the VA situation solves itself tomorrow no matter what.

Lynching VA today makes no sense at all from a town perspective.

----

In damdreds favor are a couple posts explaining his emotional outbreak and also being a bit inquisitive of BTDT, but mostly minor things.

He's definitely a better lynch that TW and Darth foley.

I'm giving giving damdred a scum lean and moving my vote.

##vote damdred
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 21:59 GMT
#2206
I'll keep reading filters, but no more cases until tomorrow.

There was one post from damdred that I found interesting and not sure if translated correctly from russian:

On August 04 2017 00:39 Damdred wrote:
Probably Tina, blue and red tablets and gave in blue pills.

Make sure Im morpheous started with as well, I started with both as well.


Can you explain this post damdred, because it's potentially very important
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 22:01 GMT
#2207
Are you saying you started with both pills as well?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 22:07 GMT
#2209
An addendum on Damdred in scum favor:

He never reacted to getting a second role PM from what I saw in his filter.
I find this to be another scum indicator.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 03 2017 22:09 GMT
#2210
Alright, bed time. good night
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 06:34 GMT
#2218
Good morning people!

Some thoughts after a long nights sleep:

The Russian thing still sucks.
If damdred applied it to himself as mafia then.... I don't know it doesn't make much sense.
I don't feel like I can properly evaluate it but why would you give it to yourself?

Besides that, almost everyone seems confident with lynching me. Which is fine. But from your POV there should be at least 2 more scum, and there's a dangerously low level of scum hunting right now.
When I flip town you're not going to have any more information on who's mafia.

My agenda for the day is going to find at least 2 more scum, maybe 3 if I find one better than damdred.

I really want to evaluate HF, but I'm not going to bother with all the Russian. If he's mafia then fine, I'll blame it on shitty game mechanics.

I'm curious how koshi knew I shot superbia.
The tracker ability wouldn't have told him that.
It also means he must've been sure that rsoul was a scum NK.
TMI from koshi? will look into it.

Will be at work so don't expect cases until evening.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 06:52 GMT
#2219
After review of koshis filter, there's 0% chance this guy is mafia.
Never lynch.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 06:57 GMT
#2220
My mafia pool is shrinking very fast, and the people left in it I gave town reads on until now.
Gonna filter them anyway.

Reviews upcoming:

VA.
BTDT.
Rels.
Conversion.

Probably not in that order though.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 06:58 GMT
#2221
On August 04 2017 10:36 darthfoley wrote:
Nvm I'm tired. Will do it tomorrow. Ruxxar is massaging my ego too effectively


I'm glad you feel that way
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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