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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 30 2017 19:37 GMT
#221
On July 31 2017 04:35 Koshi wrote:
Are we even aure there is mafia? Or can this be a faction game or something?


Nope, but not playing at all is booooring ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 30 2017 19:38 GMT
#222
On July 31 2017 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:
On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:
Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of:

Tictock, you, Conversion

Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now

You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious.

And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-)

So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^


This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT).

Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy!


-yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated.

More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything!

Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless?


Lolwut?

You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing?

I did read the whole thing but the "pointless" was directed towards Tictock, my bad.
But you do agree the Tictock stuff was pointless and misleading, right?

Misleading, how? I mean, yes, I've already rescinded as you'll see above because I remembered him claiming town, not the exact wording of the post.

However, in the context of the thread where most people are aimless, given the misread, it was a fine preliminary read. And it illustrated what I thought scummers who know their alignment might look like in thread, namely acting with information no one else had -shrugs- Why would I call what I actually thought misleading? It doesn't matter if it's speculative or 'pointless' when I was illustrating what I see as likely mafia behavior in that scenario.

Let's just drop this topic. I currently have a hard time understanding what you're trying to tell me (tired on my side) and I kinda want to play rocket league.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 30 2017 19:39 GMT
#223
Glory to Arstotzka.

I, Yuri "ruxxar" vladivostok, have come before you the passport official to seek entry into the glorious motherland.
I have brought my freshly printed passport, everything is in order!

[image loading]


I have also brought my 13th son of age 7. He has many talents and would be honored to serve the great Arstotzka, if it should please you.

My purpose for visit is to celebrate the great leaders birthday and pay my respects.
Duration of visit is 2 weeks.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 30 2017 19:40 GMT
#224
On July 31 2017 04:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
ok, Tina, all bad things aside, you in voting CopCake?


Gun to my head, deadline in 20 minutes, she's 100% my vote. But I don't see much point in settling a lynch this early when theoretically we'll be getting our alignments and into a normal D1 soon. It's not impossible that everyone just doesn't have an alignment, after all.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 30 2017 19:41 GMT
#225
Why does it say image loading? pfff
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 30 2017 19:41 GMT
#226
On July 31 2017 04:39 ruXxar wrote:
Glory to Arstotzka.

I, Yuri "ruxxar" vladivostok, have come before you the passport official to seek entry into the glorious motherland.
I have brought my freshly printed passport, everything is in order!

[image loading]


I have also brought my 13th son of age 7. He has many talents and would be honored to serve the great Arstotzka, if it should please you.

My purpose for visit is to celebrate the great leaders birthday and pay my respects.
Duration of visit is 2 weeks.


Lol I have no clue what is real and what isn't right now >< So sure, I'll take your kid
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 30 2017 19:44 GMT
#227
Here is passport.
Smells fresh.

[image loading]
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 30 2017 19:46 GMT
#228
On July 31 2017 04:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Oh

[image loading]


You cannot self approve passport. Only passport official can give official stamp.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 30 2017 19:47 GMT
#229
On July 31 2017 04:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 02:20 CopCake wrote:
I do think that mafia knows who they are and are in quicktopic deciding what to do. Now look at the game with that perspective and from the first 3 pages who look weird.

You; because you do think that but you apparently don't care about who exactly claims to not know his alignment and who doesn't do so. In your world, everyone who claims to not have a unclear alignment right now should be lynched with fire and everyone who claimed to have that alignment is confirmed town (especially the guys who were the first to claim)

But you don't really care for these people, since you didn't even bother to go back and look who claimed first (= confirmed town in your eyes).

So if you think that this is the world we're in, then you should definitely act accordingly. I think you don't act accordingly. I think you're trying to do what a town person would do but since you're scum and you do know that there's a QT with scum members in, you're tryharding to emulate a town person.

##vote CopCape


This is dumb. I ofc checked EACH post which is why even Tina said I am nitpicking, nice try scum.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 30 2017 19:56 GMT
#230
Ok I am trying to understand this.

So Tina thinks I am "mafia" because I have a "guide" or seem like I know what I am doing.

This beentheredonethat jumps in the bus and agrees because "Yeah I agree wood how do you know there is quick topic"

So for me, in my point of view

1.- If you don't know what you are you are vanilla

2.- I assume there is a quick topic because all games mafia have one, which is a super bad argument from beentheredonethat

I don't know my role and there is only ONE person in this thread that has been open about his role and is the only one that is town 100% and if you don't figure out who that was then you didn't get the same role pm as the one who don't have one.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 30 2017 20:00 GMT
#231
On July 31 2017 04:56 CopCake wrote:
Ok I am trying to understand this.

So Tina thinks I am "mafia" because I have a "guide" or seem like I know what I am doing.

This beentheredonethat jumps in the bus and agrees because "Yeah I agree wood how do you know there is quick topic"

So for me, in my point of view

1.- If you don't know what you are you are vanilla

2.- I assume there is a quick topic because all games mafia have one, which is a super bad argument from beentheredonethat

I don't know my role and there is only ONE person in this thread that has been open about his role and is the only one that is town 100% and if you don't figure out who that was then you didn't get the same role pm as the one who don't have one.


What are you trying to understand, exactly? Like what is the point of this post? Telling me you're not scum is not going to change my mind that you're the best lynch so far this game. Unless you're calling one or both of us scum, in which case you need to back it up with reasons, I'd suggest focusing on something else.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 30 2017 20:05 GMT
#232
Well, regardless, Lex and I have an early day tomorrow, so toodles! Hopefully tomorrow will be a good deal more interesting.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 30 2017 20:06 GMT
#233
I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this.

You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 30 2017 20:15 GMT
#234
On July 31 2017 05:06 CopCake wrote:
I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this.

You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his.


And I've nver played a game where I didnt know my alignment from the start.

Assuming anything is normal about this game is a dangerous trap.
The only thing we can be sure about is what the host has told us.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 30 2017 20:17 GMT
#235
On July 31 2017 05:06 CopCake wrote:
I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this.

You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his.


No, I'm asking you to provide reasons if you think we're mafia. You called him scum. You haven't said anything about me directly indicating what you think I am.

But sure, I'll explain my reasoning. Maybe others don't understand it, either. I'm not sure that mafiosos know their alignment yet, and I do find it weird that you're as sure as you portray yourself to be. In my mind you should be like me, not sure of anything.

That alone isn't enough to make you scum, of course. You're not me. People can be ridiculously attached to their unfounded assumptions. But I also find your nitpicky 'scum-hunting' to be grating. What makes Holyflare's post scummy and not a joke? (I'm still not sure if it's part of the game or not, and I got named 'passport official' lol). What makes ruxxar's post scummy when you claim to have the same role pm, where alignments and roles are unknown? Of course to him it's possible that he could be scum. Maybe town Cake thinks that way and I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

In short, you're certainly the most interesting poster in the thread right now. So assuming anyone knows something about anything (which I will allow makes more sense than 24 hours of everyone knowing jack shit, though I wouldn't put the latter past Joni), my money's on you, babe.

(Yeeeeaaahh actually going to sleep for real now lol ><)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 30 2017 20:21 GMT
#236
On July 31 2017 04:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
And I guarantee that if people start calling me bad all the time I will just stop playing and you'll have one mislynch less. Just a warning, if you guys are not nice, I'll stop playing.

Said it, now I'll shut up about it. Be nice to each other and try to have a good, townie, non-toxic atmosphere to talk to each other, alrighty?


Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see this. I was referring to the reasoning itself, not you BTDT. I'll try to make that clearer next time, if there's a next time.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 30 2017 20:25 GMT
#237
On July 31 2017 05:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 05:06 CopCake wrote:
I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this.

You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his.


No, I'm asking you to provide reasons if you think we're mafia. You called him scum. You haven't said anything about me directly indicating what you think I am.

But sure, I'll explain my reasoning. Maybe others don't understand it, either. I'm not sure that mafiosos know their alignment yet, and I do find it weird that you're as sure as you portray yourself to be. In my mind you should be like me, not sure of anything.

That alone isn't enough to make you scum, of course. You're not me. People can be ridiculously attached to their unfounded assumptions. But I also find your nitpicky 'scum-hunting' to be grating. What makes Holyflare's post scummy and not a joke? (I'm still not sure if it's part of the game or not, and I got named 'passport official' lol). What makes ruxxar's post scummy when you claim to have the same role pm, where alignments and roles are unknown? Of course to him it's possible that he could be scum. Maybe town Cake thinks that way and I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

In short, you're certainly the most interesting poster in the thread right now. So assuming anyone knows something about anything (which I will allow makes more sense than 24 hours of everyone knowing jack shit, though I wouldn't put the latter past Joni), my money's on you, babe.

(Yeeeeaaahh actually going to sleep for real now lol ><)


I don't think you are mafia because you are acting in a very "rsoultin" verse way btw and I see people approaching you to win your side instead of the opposite and make their own points (Ruxxar, beentheredonethat).

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 30 2017 20:28 GMT
#238
[image loading]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 30 2017 20:31 GMT
#239
Comrades, fear not, I have been reassigned!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 30 2017 20:32 GMT
#240
Newspaper boy
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