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On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now 
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^
This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT).
Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy!
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I accept bribes ^^ They may or may not be taken into consideration when permitting entry. Children and souls are most valuable, children's souls the most valuable of all.
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On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy!
-yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated.
More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything!
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On July 31 2017 04:16 rsoultin wrote:
I accept bribes ^^ They may or may not be taken into consideration when permitting entry. Children and souls are most valuable, children's souls the most valuable of all.
Children you say.... this is an interesting development.
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On July 31 2017 02:20 CopCake wrote:
I do think that mafia knows who they are and are in quicktopic deciding what to do. Now look at the game with that perspective and from the first 3 pages who look weird.
You; because you do think that but you apparently don't care about who exactly claims to not know his alignment and who doesn't do so. In your world, everyone who claims to not have a unclear alignment right now should be lynched with fire and everyone who claimed to have that alignment is confirmed town (especially the guys who were the first to claim)
But you don't really care for these people, since you didn't even bother to go back and look who claimed first (= confirmed town in your eyes).
So if you think that this is the world we're in, then you should definitely act accordingly. I think you don't act accordingly. I think you're trying to do what a town person would do but since you're scum and you do know that there's a QT with scum members in, you're tryharding to emulate a town person.
##vote CopCape
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On July 30 2017 06:27 Tictock wrote:
Yo rolled Town. I think...
Course that's prob what I would say as mafia too...
I dunno, I have to get back to work anyways.
Actually, yeah, nvm. Didn't remember the disclaimer. NAI then ^^
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On July 31 2017 03:58 Holyflare wrote:Reasons for denial: - Expired papers.
- Reason for visit unclear.
- Unknown origins.
ENTRY DENIED+ Show Spoiler +Please make sure all papers are presented with a valid reason to enter and have not expired.
If papers are expired, please wait for the relevant authorities to issue you with new papers.
Please get passport issued from relevant location.
Glory to Arstotzka.
I haven't even applied and I do not care about your shitty border controls
##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front
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On July 31 2017 04:19 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 02:20 CopCake wrote:
I do think that mafia knows who they are and are in quicktopic deciding what to do. Now look at the game with that perspective and from the first 3 pages who look weird. You; because you do think that but you apparently don't care about who exactly claims to not know his alignment and who doesn't do so. In your world, everyone who claims to not have a unclear alignment right now should be lynched with fire and everyone who claimed to have that alignment is confirmed town (especially the guys who were the first to claim) But you don't really care for these people, since you didn't even bother to go back and look who claimed first (= confirmed town in your eyes). So if you think that this is the world we're in, then you should definitely act accordingly. I think you don't act accordingly. I think you're trying to do what a town person would do but since you're scum and you do know that there's a QT with scum members in, you're tryharding to emulate a town person. ##vote CopCape
(c) rsoul xP
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On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy! -yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated. More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything!
Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless?
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On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy! -yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated. More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything! Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless?
Lolwut?
You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing?
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On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy! -yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated. More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything! Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless? Lolwut? You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing?
Like you're literally saying that the largest, most relevant part of my post that you happen to 100% agree with and just spent your own pretty time babbling about is apparently meaningless in the face of the small amount of speculation on Tictock, and that therefore makes the whole post pointless.
Like I don't even think this is scum or anything I just think it's hilariously bad lol ><
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On July 31 2017 04:28 beentheredonethat wrote:Oh
Ah, enlightenment took place ^^
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On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy! -yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated. More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything! Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless? Lolwut? You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing?
I did read the whole thing but the "pointless" was directed towards Tictock, my bad.
But you do agree the Tictock stuff was pointless and misleading, right?
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On July 31 2017 04:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy! -yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated. More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything! Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless? Lolwut? You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing? Like you're literally saying that the largest, most relevant part of my post that you happen to 100% agree with and just spent your own pretty time babbling about is apparently meaningless in the face of the small amount of speculation on Tictock, and that therefore makes the whole post pointless. Like I don't even think this is scum or anything I just think it's hilariously bad lol ><
That's me as town as everyone can confirm
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ok, Tina, all bad things aside, you in voting CopCake?
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And I guarantee that if people start calling me bad all the time I will just stop playing and you'll have one mislynch less. Just a warning, if you guys are not nice, I'll stop playing.
Said it, now I'll shut up about it. Be nice to each other and try to have a good, townie, non-toxic atmosphere to talk to each other, alrighty?
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Are we even aure there is mafia? Or can this be a faction game or something?
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On July 31 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now
You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy! -yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated. More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything! Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless? Lolwut? You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing? I did read the whole thing but the "pointless" was directed towards Tictock, my bad. But you do agree the Tictock stuff was pointless and misleading, right?
Misleading, how? I mean, yes, I've already rescinded as you'll see above because I remembered him claiming town, not the exact wording of the post.
However, in the context of the thread where most people are aimless, given the misread, it was a fine preliminary read. And it illustrated what I thought scummers who know their alignment might look like in thread, namely acting with information no one else had -shrugs- Why would I call what I actually thought misleading? It doesn't matter if it's speculative or 'pointless' when I was illustrating what I see as likely mafia behavior in that scenario.
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