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On July 31 2017 02:53 Tictock wrote: Rsoul, what in this world view makes you think I didn't check Scum QT?
Also what makes you think I know what I am doing more now than earlier?
I'm not on trial lol. Ask me when I know my alignment 
(You claimed town. Weak reason, but still notable. Now you seem to know not to. Simple as that.)
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On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now  You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^
I am confused. Like you are telling me that I should not convince YOU that there are people that know their roles? :psyduck and that people who are acting fluffy are the ones who are more town with no care? How in the world? Like you are telling me that I AM MAFIA but you are 100% sure that no one has gotten a role yet? Then why dont you say stop scumhunting cake because no one has gotten a role? Like honestly what you just said doesnt make sense.
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ENTRY GRANTED
Welcome to the Motherland, comrade. You have been granted the role of Passport Official. Once per cycle you may renew a passport with ##Renew: Player Name. Make sure to do thorough background checks on fellow citizens beforehand. Players with unknown origins or terrorist links are a direct threat to the Motherland and will reflect badly on your end of term review. A bad review is punishable by termination (of life).
+ Show Spoiler +Passport Official:
Once per cycle you may type ##Renew: Player Name to renew one player's passport. Make sure that you interrogate them fully before doing so because any terrorists let through reflect badly on yourself and will result in your dismissal from the Motherland, permanently.
Each new accepted citizen will be assigned a new role in Arstotzka, naturally.
Glory to Arstotzka.
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I don't think you read my opening post very well, but w/e
No one is on trial, I just thought it was weird you thought I had some clue as to what was going on in this game.
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Roles posted in public
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Oh and now it turns out I'm argueing with the new Passport Official. So much for getting my passport renewed.
You know what, screw this country. I'm gunna go build my own BETTER nation, with blackjack and hookers!
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Players with unknown origins or terrorist links are a direct threat to the Motherland and will reflect badly on your end of term review. A bad review is punishable by termination (of life).
So it means that got that got rejected are mafia?
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On July 31 2017 03:04 Holyflare wrote:ENTRY GRANTEDWelcome to the Motherland, comrade. You have been granted the role of Passport Official. Once per cycle you may renew a passport with ##Renew: Player Name. Make sure to do thorough background checks on fellow citizens beforehand. Players with unknown origins or terrorist links are a direct threat to the Motherland and will reflect badly on your end of term review. A bad review is punishable by termination (of life). + Show Spoiler +Passport Official:
Once per cycle you may type ##Renew: Player Name to renew one player's passport. Make sure that you interrogate them fully before doing so because any terrorists let through reflect badly on yourself and will result in your dismissal from the Motherland, permanently.
Each new accepted citizen will be assigned a new role in Arstotzka, naturally.
Glory to Arstotzka.
lolwut?
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On July 31 2017 03:04 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now  You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ I am confused. Like you are telling me that I should not convince YOU that there are people that know their roles? :psyduck and that people who are acting fluffy are the ones who are more town with no care? How in the world? Like you are telling me that I AM MAFIA but you are 100% sure that no one has gotten a role yet? Then why dont you say stop scumhunting cake because no one has gotten a role? Like honestly what you just said doesnt make sense.
Nope, I'm saying that if mafia already know their alignment, then they could be expected to be posting with more direction than those in the thread who don't have a damn clue. Pretty simple reasoning caaaake So it's in your best interest to not convince me that mafia already knows their alignment, because you seem the most suspicious to me for 1) having a direction and 2) pushing based on weaksauce.
@Tictock - could be misremembering. I'll bother later once I figure out what, if anything, is going on here @.@
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On July 31 2017 03:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 03:04 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now  You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ I am confused. Like you are telling me that I should not convince YOU that there are people that know their roles? :psyduck and that people who are acting fluffy are the ones who are more town with no care? How in the world? Like you are telling me that I AM MAFIA but you are 100% sure that no one has gotten a role yet? Then why dont you say stop scumhunting cake because no one has gotten a role? Like honestly what you just said doesnt make sense. Nope, I'm saying that if mafia already know their alignment, then they could be expected to be posting with more direction than those in the thread who don't have a damn clue. Pretty simple reasoning caaaake  So it's in your best interest to not convince me that mafia already knows their alignment, because you seem the most suspicious to me for 1) having a direction and 2) pushing based on weaksauce. @Tictock - could be misremembering. I'll bother later once I figure out what, if anything, is going on here @.@
I will follow my heart tho even if it makes you think I am mafia, as mafia you try to blend in ^^
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Reasons for denial:
- Expired papers.
- Reason for visit unclear.
- Bribing of government official.
- Fake passport.
+ Show Spoiler [proof] +On July 30 2017 17:11 ruXxar wrote: Oh fuck it, my passport is fake, but made by best russian bootleggers. Im gonna try my luck
##NEXT On July 30 2017 17:13 ruXxar wrote: Of course, here's 50$ to ensure everything goes smoothly
ENTRY DENIED
+ Show Spoiler +Please make sure all papers are presented with a valid reason to enter and have not expired. If papers are expired, please wait for the relevant authorities to issue you with new papers. Fake passports are punishable by firing squad. When appointed. Bribing of government officials is STRICTLY prohibited. All are equal in Arstotzka.
Glory to Arstotzka.
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Comrades,
My name is Padimir Vlutin, leader of the All-Arstotzkian People's Front.
We, the All-Arstotzkian People's Front, are currently looking for YOU to join us. A bright future for Arstotzka is a bright future for you!
Type ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front to become the future of Arstotzka!
Glory to Arstotzka.
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Reasons for denial:
- Expired papers.
- Reason for visit unclear.
- Unknown origins.
ENTRY DENIED
+ Show Spoiler +Please make sure all papers are presented with a valid reason to enter and have not expired. If papers are expired, please wait for the relevant authorities to issue you with new papers. Please get passport issued from relevant location.
Glory to Arstotzka.
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Id like a passport please
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On July 31 2017 03:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 03:04 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now  You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ I am confused. Like you are telling me that I should not convince YOU that there are people that know their roles? :psyduck and that people who are acting fluffy are the ones who are more town with no care? How in the world? Like you are telling me that I AM MAFIA but you are 100% sure that no one has gotten a role yet? Then why dont you say stop scumhunting cake because no one has gotten a role? Like honestly what you just said doesnt make sense. Nope, I'm saying that if mafia already know their alignment, then they could be expected to be posting with more direction than those in the thread who don't have a damn clue. Pretty simple reasoning caaaake  So it's in your best interest to not convince me that mafia already knows their alignment, because you seem the most suspicious to me for 1) having a direction and 2) pushing based on weaksauce. @Tictock - could be misremembering. I'll bother later once I figure out what, if anything, is going on here @.@
I like this argument.
Also, congratulations on your new appointment. I will submit my application with 100% unfaked non bootlegged genuine passport soon.
Glory to arstotzka!!
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On July 31 2017 03:39 Superbia wrote:Comrades, My name is Padimir Vlutin, leader of the All-Arstotzkian People's Front. We, the All-Arstotzkian People's Front, are currently looking for YOU to join us. A bright future for Arstotzka is a bright future for you! Type ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front to become the future of Arstotzka! Glory to Arstotzka. ![[image loading]](https://res.cloudinary.com/lmn/image/upload/c_limit,h_360,w_640/e_sharpen:100/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/v1/gameskinnyop/a/f/d/orig_afd543e46c74cb34c753e5f23083c39d.jpg)
Show approved passport or be banished for taking arstotzka name in vain
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On July 31 2017 02:20 CopCake wrote: I do think that mafia knows who they are and are in quicktopic deciding what to do. Now look at the game with that perspective and from the first 3 pages who look weird. If that is the case, we have already confirmed town people, being the ones who started the whole "oh my alignment is unclear" people. I can't believe that there are 3 scummers in a QT and 11 players that do not have an alignment yet that are not town in the end of the day.
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On July 31 2017 03:33 Holyflare wrote:Reasons for denial: - Expired papers.
- Reason for visit unclear.
- Bribing of government official.
- Fake passport.
+ Show Spoiler [proof] +On July 30 2017 17:11 ruXxar wrote: Oh fuck it, my passport is fake, but made by best russian bootleggers. Im gonna try my luck
##NEXT On July 30 2017 17:13 ruXxar wrote: Of course, here's 50$ to ensure everything goes smoothly ENTRY DENIED+ Show Spoiler +Please make sure all papers are presented with a valid reason to enter and have not expired. If papers are expired, please wait for the relevant authorities to issue you with new papers. Fake passports are punishable by firing squad. When appointed. Bribing of government officials is STRICTLY prohibited. All are equal in Arstotzka.
Glory to Arstotzka.
This is an outrage. I have been a loyal servant to arstotzka for over 50 years. I just borrowed my friends passport while mine is being renewed. I will be back with my own passport tomorrow.
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On July 31 2017 02:39 CopCake wrote: Idk I assume that with no role I am vanilla town so I am gonna be one Yeah that's what I do, too, but it's what everyone's gonna do I guess. Like, even if it turns out in the end that you're scum, you still want to look townie, right? So unsure alignment = town play / emulate town play.
So to me, everyone whose alignment is unclear is town as long as his alignment gets cleared up.
Is that a flawed logic?
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