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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 09:38 GMT
#1867
Lol everytime I want to vote HF he says something that makes me believe he's town again:

"Also I can just say. Fuck this game. This is absolutely bullish shit. If you have a cure for the Russians, you will not have anyone, and you will fuck you, whoever you are."
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 10:49 GMT
#1909
Thanks for summarizing, Koshi. My vote on HF is dumb and I absolutely agree with your points on Ruxxar.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 10:52 GMT
#1910
On August 03 2017 18:45 Koshi wrote:
btdt looks so fucking bad with his vote on HF. Ruxxar literally claims mafia in the thread and it is proven with game mechanics and he wants to lynch within HF + DF.

That's like too bad to be bad town.

I do agree that my HF vote is bad, so I unvoted and I'm voting Ruxxar.
"Too bad to be bad town" - that statement is over the top .
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 11:27 GMT
#1917
Let's just not auto to Ruxxar this day. Let's have wagons.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 11:42 GMT
#1925
On August 03 2017 20:37 Holyflare wrote:
Я называю вас мафией или, по крайней мере, 3p. Я думаю, что ваша сила - это что-то вроде отложенного кп для русских людей. Вы - морфеус и можете сделать «предложение», и поскольку это не лекарство, и вы не исцелили меня, и вы сказали, что дали «rsoultin» «выбор». Я думаю, вероятно, что выбор, вероятно, либо умрет, либо что-то плохое.

I think if he was indeed 3p, he wouldn't have crumbed that so hardcore in thread. Morpheus is Neo-aligned (pretty hard Neo-aligned even) and I think having the role of Morpheus means the alignment "town".

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 11:45 GMT
#1927
On August 03 2017 20:42 Rels wrote:
lol DF were scumreads by all thread dead. Dead players scumread:

DF: rsoul, cake, superbia
ruxxar cake (weak), superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)
BTDT: cake
VA: rsoul

Yes but Cake was killed by me, so this list would be more accurate if you look for scum based on kills:

DF: rsoul, superbia
ruxxar: superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)

Night kills point towards DF.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 11:46 GMT
#1928
On August 03 2017 20:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:37 Holyflare wrote:
Я называю вас мафией или, по крайней мере, 3p. Я думаю, что ваша сила - это что-то вроде отложенного кп для русских людей. Вы - морфеус и можете сделать «предложение», и поскольку это не лекарство, и вы не исцелили меня, и вы сказали, что дали «rsoultin» «выбор». Я думаю, вероятно, что выбор, вероятно, либо умрет, либо что-то плохое.

I think if he was indeed 3p, he wouldn't have crumbed that so hardcore in thread. Morpheus is Neo-aligned (pretty hard Neo-aligned even) and I think having the role of Morpheus means the alignment "town".


again that means nothing. And there is already a counter example in the game. Mr Smith is a bad guy but was town.

Oh right I completely forgot about that :D
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 11:55 GMT
#1934
On August 03 2017 20:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:43 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:37 Holyflare wrote:
Я называю вас мафией или, по крайней мере, 3p. Я думаю, что ваша сила - это что-то вроде отложенного кп для русских людей. Вы - морфеус и можете сделать «предложение», и поскольку это не лекарство, и вы не исцелили меня, и вы сказали, что дали «rsoultin» «выбор». Я думаю, вероятно, что выбор, вероятно, либо умрет, либо что-то плохое.

I think if he was indeed 3p, he wouldn't have crumbed that so hardcore in thread. Morpheus is Neo-aligned (pretty hard Neo-aligned even) and I think having the role of Morpheus means the alignment "town".


again that means nothing. And there is already a counter example in the game. Mr Smith is a bad guy but was town.

Oh right I completely forgot about that :D

Nevertheless, crumbing is a town thing. I don't see a scum Morpheus crumbing his role in thread when he KNOWS there is Anderson and Smith in.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 11:56 GMT
#1935
On August 03 2017 20:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:42 Rels wrote:
lol DF were scumreads by all thread dead. Dead players scumread:

DF: rsoul, cake, superbia
ruxxar cake (weak), superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)
BTDT: cake
VA: rsoul

Yes but Cake was killed by me, so this list would be more accurate if you look for scum based on kills:

DF: rsoul, superbia
ruxxar: superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)

Night kills point towards DF.

That's what I thought at first, but ruxxar claims to have tried to shot her with vodka + matches.

So you don't believe my claim?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 11:57 GMT
#1937
oh yeah Damdred disappeared again
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 13:36 GMT
#2002
On August 03 2017 21:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 20:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:48 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 20:42 Rels wrote:
lol DF were scumreads by all thread dead. Dead players scumread:

DF: rsoul, cake, superbia
ruxxar cake (weak), superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)
BTDT: cake
VA: rsoul

Yes but Cake was killed by me, so this list would be more accurate if you look for scum based on kills:

DF: rsoul, superbia
ruxxar: superbia
TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak)

Night kills point towards DF.

That's what I thought at first, but ruxxar claims to have tried to shot her with vodka + matches.

So you don't believe my claim?

Yes I think I believe it. What I mean is that even if you're town and you shot her, scum!ruxxar also tried to shoot her. So you can't eliminate her from the "shot by scum" list.

Why would scum ever shoot CopCake though? She's far from being widely townread, she wasn't even hunting someone that is not me, and even the points she had on me were, in retrospect, rather OMGUS than actual points.

The real question here is why rsoultin is dead.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 15:26 GMT
#2098
Is Damdred also speaking Russian now?

I'll have you guys know that I cannot read the majority of the russian stuff because it's fucking too much effort.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:08 GMT
#2169
I think Damdred is a good lynch
Probably a better lynch than Ruxxar even

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:23 GMT
#2173
On July 30 2017 22:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2017 22:36 ruXxar wrote:
On July 30 2017 22:33 Damdred wrote:
I don't understand how you can play a game by btdt without knowing alignments?


I dont understand what you are saying here.
Please rephrase.


Since most of us if not all of us do not know alignments, there is 0 way we can play the game until we do.

Unless we just rng the lynch onto btdt

"we can't play the game lets kill btdt"

On July 31 2017 08:07 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 08:02 Tictock wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:44 Tumblewood wrote:
i have a role now. that is all i will say about it until further notice


Do you have an opinion about how we should scum hunt so far this game?

Is Ruxx right that we can throw out the first 24 hours, or do you think Cake might be onto something and scum knew their alignment right off?


I am not tumble but I feel like taking a crack at this.

1) Honestly we shoudl forget about the role shenanigans that is going on and we should just try to play normally, there is a lot of times that theme'd games just devolve into a mechanics guessing game and town loses because of it.

2) Until we got our pm i think we can throw out, or ignore it. Unless a real argument could be made when as far as we know 100% of town didn't know what was going on and everything was trolling to start with.


I have received two PMs.
1) "You don't remember your alignment"
2) "You're town, here's your superpower"
(not exact quotes)

Did Damdred only receive one PM?

On July 31 2017 08:34 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 08:30 CopCake wrote:
On July 31 2017 08:25 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 08:21 CopCake wrote:
On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:
On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him.


Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h.

I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that.


No, no, no.

Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start.

If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia.


Why are you so convinced of this.
That is quite scummy.


What is scummy about it?

It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless.

Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out.

Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start).


Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns.


This is so dumb, Mafia can pretend to do not know a thing, you know?


I expect a mafia to type "I am town" not "I don't know my alignment" if they got a mafia role PM.
It's a very unique thing to write, and they wouldn't catch on until a couple people wrote it already.

Your argument doesn't make any sense.


Excuse me I don't understand your point.

What if the host told mafia "No one knows your pm but you" Ofc Mafia would write "I don't know my role" if not then Town would have a HUGE advantage ^^ and that would make Holy Flair mafia in your world if that was the case.


We can't play on what ifs however, and more than likely mafia did not know any more than town did that nobody would or would not know alignment.

And yes its a good logical conclusion that if scum knew its alignment they would start with I am town instead of IDK whats going on exactly here.

This is odd - also because it is false. If scum knew its alignment, they would've known that town players cannot remember their alignment for the time being. Because if that is not the case, the game would be super unbalanced and potentially scum would slip during the first 24 hours of the game ("Hi, I'm town" vs "dude, I dunno my alignment").

I don't know why Damdred is not seeing it; he should be seeing it.
On July 31 2017 23:16 Damdred wrote:
Town:

Rsoultin
Koshi
Superbia

Probably town:
Cupcake
Rux
Conversion

Gut town:
VA

Hf Nd I my roleolay baby, no clue about his alignment.

I'm ignoring btdt alignment for a little bit because I'm a bit torn by his postings. Part of me thinks he is more town oriented just by the tone, his bull dogish nature. And some of his posts have a pretty clear indicator what has going after and I don't see scum motivation in it. But his postings about how he will rage felt slightly disemgenous but his explanation for them was ok and I understand the point. So typing this out I'd probably not lynch him ever today.

Tt I think is scum so far. Not really stand in out doing things and just giving items away to get on rux good side it seems.

Two of Damdred's D1 town reads die N1. Also how weird of a townread is what he says about me? He's torn about me but not lynching me "probably" and "ever" today? This is like "I wanna townread this guy but I want to be able to call him scum later on without being suspected".

On August 02 2017 03:47 Damdred wrote:
yeah kill the damdred dude. He probably deserves it tbh.

but just in case it does happen and i actually die here are them sick reads.

copcake is always town, never scum ( or very very rarely).

The first substantial thing she does is go against thread sentiment and bring attention to herself. While cop might be a good scum player (she is btw), I thinkbit woild be better if scum would fit in at that juncture and not draw a suoer amount of attention. And then when shebis pushed proded and generally called scum, she does not drop it. She fights for her view and uses it to scum read people.

She is super focused om her reads and keeps drawing peoples attention to them throughout d1, you can tell ahe cares about her reads and honestly thats towny. Her re evaluation of ruxxar also points to town.

The final piece is that she is the first tin hatbin the thread, tgis is the weakest point but thebither parts make he town ajyway.

More reads xoming in a sec

Now here comes the odd part. This post looks super townie, right? Over the course of D1, Damdred has said:

1. Superbia is town (followed up later by another "I like this" quote)
2. Copcake is "never scum"
3. rsoultin is "always town"

And the night kills are Superbia and rsoultin. And Copcake flips town as well. So Damdred's D1 is correct in 3 out of 3 occasions.

Damdred reads 3 players absolutely correctly while having 2(!) pages of filter. He apparently is reading the game but he is not typing much. All his reads are town reads. He is not pushing for any of his scumreads (since TT flipped scum,
he should push DF!)


And you might say now that "Wait, he scumread TT, and TT flipped town, so he's only 3/4 reads correct D1" - but is he? his second post in the game is "Tictock is scum". He didn't reconsider at any moment. I'm super confident that Damdred's plan was to lynch TT all along OR he was perfectly fine with that lynch because he knew it was town.

His reads reek of TMI and his whole behaviour is not townie at all.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:24 GMT
#2174
On August 04 2017 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
Сегодня ничто не будет лучше, чем Ruxxar lynch.

Literally everything is better than auto-ing on Ruxxar. Also I'm not 100% sold on him being scum, him playing boldly/badly fits the picture I have of him all game.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:25 GMT
#2177
On August 04 2017 03:25 darthfoley wrote:
I'm getting behind the wheel soon so idk how active I'll be. I don't text and drive

Hashtag responsible citizen

Can you not make such posts? They are scummy.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:33 GMT
#2180
"I'm not 100%, you're judging va. But if I were monitoring was conducted with the support of USAID, I would not give you an item of this day if there is a shortage.

And also the btdt thing is really bad really, like mega bad."

ok Damdred. Go fuck yourself.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:36 GMT
#2183
If my case is bad, show me why?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:39 GMT
#2185
On August 04 2017 03:37 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 03:25 darthfoley wrote:
I'm getting behind the wheel soon so idk how active I'll be. I don't text and drive

Hashtag responsible citizen


could have just gone MIA tbh like half of this town is

Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 03:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 04 2017 03:25 darthfoley wrote:
I'm getting behind the wheel soon so idk how active I'll be. I don't text and drive

Hashtag responsible citizen

Can you not make such posts? They are scummy.


can you explain how this is scummy? you've been saying it all game and I'm still confused

What exactly have I been saying all game?

I think saying "I'll drive now" is scummy because it feels forced.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 03 2017 18:40 GMT
#2186
On August 04 2017 03:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2017 03:37 Conversion wrote:
On August 04 2017 03:25 darthfoley wrote:
I'm getting behind the wheel soon so idk how active I'll be. I don't text and drive

Hashtag responsible citizen


could have just gone MIA tbh like half of this town is

On August 04 2017 03:25 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 04 2017 03:25 darthfoley wrote:
I'm getting behind the wheel soon so idk how active I'll be. I don't text and drive

Hashtag responsible citizen

Can you not make such posts? They are scummy.


can you explain how this is scummy? you've been saying it all game and I'm still confused

What exactly have I been saying all game?

I think saying "I'll drive now" is scummy because it feels forced.

For example I also found Koshi's "i will take a nap" scummy.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
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