[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia III

On July 13 2017 08:00 ruXxar wrote:
For good measure here's the town list so far:

Holyflare.
Showing scum hunting tendencies.

Rsoul (day 1 pass).

Rayn is slight town lean.

Hope I didn't miss any posters so far.

On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons

1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.

Here he's just eh.

2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.

3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo)

On July 13 2017 10:45 ruXxar wrote:


My whole point is trying to determine damdreds alignment.

I couldn't give less flying fucks what alignment rsoul is right now.

On July 13 2017 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:

because i know it was a bait and doesnt accomplish anything

i am trying to figure out why you say this:


and then vote for ruxxar instead?

On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:


1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo"
Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you.

Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view.

2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game.

Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone:

On July 13 2017 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Oh i thought you thought she is mafia.
But i also think you clearly said you don't wanna lynch ruxxar.
So you're just sheeping?

On July 13 2017 22:26 rsoultin wrote:
if geript were darth punk that might make him mafia?

-throws a shoe at koshi- i has reads -_- maybe not the bestest reads ever but i'm not hiiiiding them. sorta the ec one, but that was for obvious reasons if you have two brain cells to rub together

-flings more <3s at hf just because-

On July 13 2017 22:37 ruXxar wrote:


Still mafia.

On July 13 2017 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
That's what this game was sorely lacking though. Someone calling me mafia.

On July 14 2017 00:25 Damdred wrote:
Geript is always awesome town, my partner in crime and we will ride till I die.

Rayn is pretty sexy town in this situation. Has all the fun rayn towns.

Sl is town now (For now). He just cared to much in a short burst for him to be mafia d1 do me, even if hes lying about the mistake that is.

Tina is interesting, part of me thinks that she is a bit fake in what she is doing. And it seemed to be a bit antagonistic towards hf which she generally does more as scum. Overall I'm a bit torn about her but would put a scum lean on her just from a tonal and content point of view.

Hf is interesting but I'm holding cards to chest on this one. I sort of think town, but for okish reasons.

I'm unsure of ec, some of his stuff is just kinda meh here.

Rux I sort of think is still town just says stud that digs him deeper and doesn't want to turn around from it. I kinda find it more town that stubbornness cause there's no point in keep in him going.

On July 14 2017 00:30 Damdred wrote:


Maybe? I kinda think Tina or even tw is a better lynch atm though. Even though I didn't have tw in my list I forgot he posted which is kinda a bad sign.

On July 14 2017 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I'm hard claiming not blue by the way.

On July 14 2017 01:41 Damdred wrote:
I'm shooting hf tonight then

On July 14 2017 04:51 ruXxar wrote:


The important difference is that we were both *wrong* last game.

Not to mention that 80% of those reads was based on day 1 voting.

Anyway, could you give me a rundown of which reads you have so I can compare?

On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Man Damdred tr'ing geript this hard while telling this little just bugs me a lot. btdt had a similar Koshi read I picked up on last game which came out of nowhere and kicked myself for lynching him that late.

Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?

On July 14 2017 04:59 ruXxar wrote:


I'm sorry, koshi and rsoul are what?

On July 14 2017 02:42 ruXxar wrote:
Gonna have to do some filter reading to see if I missed something.

I did notice a bit of uptight/cold shoulder from damdy.
I feel like his emotional state is very muted.

Might not mean much though, don't know damdred too well.

As for rsoul, is either hormones or she's putting on an act.
I can't decide which yet.

On July 14 2017 05:08 ruXxar wrote:


Here's my problem with you SL.

You're voting for me right now, but I dont feel like you're pushing me.

It doesn't feel like your heart is in the vote.

As I recall you votes me because you were sleeping Rayn.

Now that Rayn is voting for VA, why do you still vote for me?

Either push me with your scum read or go find somewhere else to park your vote.

On July 15 2017 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred the next post you make is an answer to are you masons with geript.

On July 15 2017 05:48 Damdred wrote:


Yes will 100% back his claim

On July 15 2017 05:57 VayneAuthority wrote:


baby seals emirite! lol funny meme XDD

On July 15 2017 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is another blue and that doesnt make any dense if geript/ damdred are masons.

On July 15 2017 23:54 ruXxar wrote:


Thats what mafia want you to do

On July 15 2017 23:52 emperorchampion wrote:
damn I completely forgot about sl, yeah he could also be scum maybe

On July 16 2017 06:08 emperorchampion wrote:
So scum team is exactly rels, damdy and geript?

On July 16 2017 06:21 Holyflare wrote:
I'm nerfed cop tho only one check

On July 16 2017 14:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Sl please let me know why your so confused that I think that you could maybe be scum. What's made you so towny this game?

On July 16 2017 22:18 ruXxar wrote:


1) Because I'm concerned that you are mafia fake-claiming.

And if rels flips green you're going to claim that mafia has a framer to balance out the masons/cop.

If rels flips green I'm not going to believe such a claim from you.

2) what do you mean "and koshi a red check"?

On July 17 2017 01:04 Koshi wrote:

lol lame

On July 17 2017 01:43 Rels wrote:
sicklucker: did you really believe the claim ?

On July 17 2017 02:23 Koshi wrote:

Yeah this has nothing to do with that.
Just lame to use that.

On July 17 2017 02:28 Koshi wrote:

You make it sound like there has to be mafia between HF and me.
Why is TW not mafia?

On July 17 2017 02:38 Rels wrote:

so ?

On July 17 2017 20:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Is it really that odd to accept a mason claim? I don't find it too particularly odd. Everyone else accepted it.

On July 18 2017 04:24 Rels wrote:

I wanted to know if you believed the claim or not. Still want to know btw. I have this view about how you play and I want to match it with your posts

On July 18 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote:
I'm just tempted to sheep dead rayn onto emc along with geript for now since I still miss more than half of the game. Anyway, off to delve while I vote emc.

On July 18 2017 04:28 Tumblewood wrote:

i thought you said you hadn't accepted the mason claim?

On July 16 2017 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, then EC is mafia.

On July 18 2017 04:33 emperorchampion wrote:


Jesus, I can save you some time in that rayn thought I was pretty town, and his reasons for thinking I could maybe be scum is a case that skynx made. Skynx himself has since backed off this case

On July 18 2017 05:47 geript wrote:
God I can kill like any of 3 people right now.

On July 18 2017 05:57 Damdred wrote:
I moved to rux though, tw rage feels towny

On July 18 2017 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
sl is absolutely confirmed mafia now

On July 18 2017 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
the one where sl is up for voting koshi but then jumps to sheep to koshi's target but then as soon as that wagon looks like it's set he instant derails it to ruxxar?

On July 18 2017 04:19 sicklucker wrote:
Ruxxars still my first choice his game is so different. wild yes rels but not the samr

On July 19 2017 06:07 Koshi wrote:
##vote tw

Not coting tw without an ironclad case why you wrpngfully believe he is town is claiming mafia

On July 15 2017 22:31 Skynx wrote:
Tomorrow's lynch should be TW, his vote is by far the worst.

This is all he had to say about VA:


At the same time he's scumreading geript, stating his case on me is contradicting itself:


But that's it, votes geript and pushes nothing more about it while his two townreads lead the vagon. On EoD, he switches me last min and;



This is just a typical scum move when both wagons are town. His two page filter is shit in terms of opinion regarding me and VA. Can't stay on geript cuz he claimed so makes a pointless vote on losing wagon, trying to present it like it was saving a town.

On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:

They are both mafia.

On July 19 2017 21:16 sicklucker wrote:


man look at these votes. 4 confirmed town voted skynx. tumble is probably town too.

Mafia team is skyx, rels koshi with maybe ec.

Im pretty sure mafia voted to save skynx day 1 and lynching tumble would be a huge mistake

On July 20 2017 01:40 Holyflare wrote:
You can tell Vivax is actually mafia because he doesn't interact with anything in the thread at all. It doesn't matter if he's behind or not, if he town read me then he would interact with me at the time he was placing his vote at least.

On July 20 2017 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
You realise that in 120 hours of game time vivax has made 4 posts?

Two of those you hated because it wanted to lynch you based on incorrect information and dead rayn's outdated read.

Another one of those is the post I quoted above.

All of his filter is complete irrelevant trash that YOU hated. Now you want to lynch SL/Rels/anyone not vivax.

I don't buy it. Vivax is a good player, he doesn't make these posts and he especially does absolutely no interacting with anyone.

On July 20 2017 02:16 Rels wrote:
I changed my mind. Koshi is scum. Dude usually has so much presence he gets NK N1 almost always. D1 maybe he couldn't play, but his play D2 and now is far from that.

On July 20 2017 02:55 Rels wrote:

then by your logic you should be voting ...

On July 20 2017 02:56 Holyflare wrote:


no he didn't at all, I don't think mafia rels plays that unbelievably sloppy that he doesn't get credit, he's not a bad player

mafia don't make plans like this with 10 minutes to go lol

On July 21 2017 00:01 Skynx wrote:
sicklucker should be the lynch today as his scumhunting this game is a total farce.


We should most of the time just straightup ignore his D1 but here he admits a sheepvote on Ruxxar without having much clue about anyone else.


Later on a reverse mind meld/meta comes along the ONLY real reason of why he's scumreading Ruxxar, some other stuff in same page but nothing that can be used as an argument.


Another lazy reason to scumread someone. He just looks tryhard with this, emp felt genuine at the time even tho i was scumreading him aswell.



Trying to solidify emperor being mafia with rayn sr on him which was based on wrong reasons:
+ Show Spoiler +
Rayn thought that was right which I thought the same but those were post EoD, significantly harming the value of my case. I think sl says this before Rels points out my mistake but i cba looking, he's just trying too hard to create reasons here imo.


Koshi main wagon. He has no opinion.


Him trying to support emperor scumread and soft sr on Koshi curiously comes after this. If Ruxxar his first choice, why try to create a wagon on someone else? When Koshi is main wagon why not try to propose a Ruxxar lynch? His vote is on Rels of all people at this point, after claim was rescinded. He has 1 main sr, two other sr's but votes no one. He just can't pick sides at this point.

22:20, there are 5 votes on emp. 5 fucking votes. He, as town, have options here. He can jump emperor train, why not he has reasons to support it right? He can propose a ruxxar lynch, its his main sr.
22:35 he votes Tumblewood... like wtf?

this to support it... I don't even know who is he talking about here, "He" is Koshi? Koshi bussing TW makes more sense than bussing EC? Either way how does that make TW scum????? Like literally, nothing recent on Tumble AND he sheeps his sr onto him. He posts a list of townies, claiming everyone else lynchable, like very under the table, pushes a TW sr...


Then back on Ruxxar. Easiest mislynch ever. This is not a towny vote pattern guys.


There we go instantly brings up the fact that Ruxxar was his n1 target. Bolded is a classic mafia agenda, just swaying from the fact that he has no basis at all voting for tumble to begin with.



I can go on with his bs on me but I'm gona cap it off with this.
No options he says. What was his options?
Emp wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either.
Koshi wagon, he scumreads, doesn't vote, doesn't push for Ruxxar lynch either.

In what case you do all this as town? He doesn't want to lynch his scumreads but doesn't case his main scumread either but defends himself like this was his plan all along. Just doesn't exist as town. Lynch please, I 110% guarantee you he will flip scum.

On July 21 2017 00:26 Rels wrote:
nothing in this case convinces me. SL can play lazily like that as town. Openly sheeping a read D1 for example is something he can do.
In particular, I don't see why his ruxxar reads and vote makes him town. At one point of the case you accuse him of not pushing ruxxar, then when he does push ruxxar you say it's scummy. It's only a narrative and it's a far stretched one.

On the other hand I don't understand you regarding Vivax. The dude is KNOWN for AFKing as scum.He didn't even have a good real life excuse, he tried to play THEN crumbled under the work and gave his IRL excuse. He did literally the same thing in the Holyflare mafia, he replaced in and was inactive with a couple of big posts here and there. And his last post before he conceded was an excuse, like this game.

On July 21 2017 00:30 Koshi wrote:
I am currently voting with all the remaining intelligent people on TW. So I am fine here.

On July 21 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:
I don't know what you mean. When i look at Vivax i see someone who doesn't want to play.

sl never at any point cared who gets lynched.

On July 21 2017 06:05 Skynx wrote:
Whaaaaaaat? Chester is dead??????

On July 24 2017 21:29 Rels wrote:

gonna have to reread exactly what happened. But your reasonning seems pretty flimsy at best. You were in the last game right ? We had a 7-6 votes town-scum vote D1, so scum managed to not get lynched in a very close vote; yet no scum voted for the main wagon to save their roleblocker. The 7 people wagon was pure. Voting to save your partner is hard, and you shouldn't assume a vote logic so simple makes Skynx town.

This is not even taking into account that the vote this game was a lot less scary in this current game from what I remember. Not one second I thought Skynx was gonna get lynched over VA D1. Maybe I'm biaised 'cause VA was my vote though.

On July 25 2017 03:19 Rels wrote:

such a bad post. Such a bad reason to townread Koshi. Koshi says that all the time and then never do it. SL you should know that.

On July 25 2017 04:20 Rels wrote:

And even if he does that "sometimes as town for the first cycle". Which I don't think he ever did. And I want you to prove he ever did.
BUT even taking this hypothesis to be true for one minute. WHY would that make Koshi town just because he doesn't post ? Why couldn't he do that as scum this game ? Why is it "neutral to good" ?

On July 25 2017 05:07 Rels wrote:
During N1:

What ? I thought Koshi's lackluster D1 was slightly townie

On July 25 2017 06:27 Tumblewood wrote:
those are some good points on sl. i still think this game lines up well with what i'd call sl's "worldview", but admittedly i don't have a great read on him.
the big thing i get out of this is that rels is either town or producing some of the best analysis i have ever seen from scum.
thankfully we have 1 ML left but i will read both of their filters/meta tonight.

On July 25 2017 05:26 Rels wrote:
TLDR SL is always the lynch tomorrow.
If I'm wrong it's very likely to be Skynx. But I don't think I am.

On July 27 2017 03:11 geript wrote:
Not lynching Koshi D2 was a major mistake. I should've been all over that band wagon. My problem is that I've seen Koshi give absolutely 0 fucks as both alignments and I like a few minor comments he made. Overall though, the Ruxxar Lynch on D2 was a fucking travesty because he was far from a good lynch then. Not lynching VA was much tougher IMO; I don't think there were any slam dunk cases around. We maybe could've pulled a lurker lynch for SL, but past that IDK. There weren't any slam dunk cases on D1 and there were a number of people who allowed the lurker scum to not be easy policy lynches.

Like here's the thing Rels. If you start playing and start to look towny on D2, you've helped scum get a more favorable lynch on D1. On D1, I think Rels, SL, Koshi, TW, Tina and maybe EC could've all been solid lynches as Lurker + questionable play. On D2, Rels removed himself from that list; maybe EC did too. IDK, I feel really good and bad about my EC reads this game (which I'm ok with since I haven't seen him before). IMO, the most important thing you can do as town is to remove yourself from the lynch list. If all townies are obviously town, then finding the right person to lynch becomes super easy. Even if they're just reasonably townie, people will find reasons to lynch someone else.

On July 27 2017 03:47 rsoultin wrote:


Ruxxar D2 was a huge mistake I felt. Not there to defend himself, everyone had been talking about others the whole day phase...very strange lynch.