[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia III

On July 06 2017 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You always learn something if you actually use a little bit of time on where you went wrong and try to figure out why that happened.

I think you played well last game. Noone really had "superior" reads so you were definitely above an average townie imo.

On June 17 2017 02:08 Koshi wrote:
2)Holyflare
4)Rels
7)Tumblewood
10)beentheredonethat
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
22)Eversince

Probably is Grack or Rels. I don't care who it is.

On July 05 2017 18:42 Koshi wrote:
Also correct reads on Eversince, Ruxxar and sicklucker when nobody was even close.

On July 06 2017 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dude you listed over half of the game....

On July 11 2017 20:33 ruXxar wrote:
Is it a valid strategy to not read your role pm and just pretend you are town?

(Don't shoot me for asking stupid questions pls )

On July 13 2017 17:00 rsoultin wrote:


lol like y'all are ever gonna lynch me this game. darth punk isn't here

On July 13 2017 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi what's your opinion on what i said about ruxxar?

On July 13 2017 20:41 ruXxar wrote:

Koshi, you are way too serious this game.

You look nothing like your last game.
Your tone is completely different.
Very somber and low energy.

On July 13 2017 22:26 rsoultin wrote:
if geript were darth punk that might make him mafia?

-throws a shoe at koshi- i has reads -_- maybe not the bestest reads ever but i'm not hiiiiding them. sorta the ec one, but that was for obvious reasons if you have two brain cells to rub together

-flings more <3s at hf just because-

On July 13 2017 22:47 rsoultin wrote:


feeeeels could make up reasons for you but too lazy pffffft

On July 13 2017 23:21 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not even doing anything this game and I'm 90% certain I'm gonna get nkd. That's how poorly you guys are playing.

On July 13 2017 23:23 VayneAuthority wrote:


It doesn't matter I don't need to read your posts anymore. Koshi needs to post more now then I will start an orgy

On July 13 2017 23:24 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi doesn't even have real reads. Must be mafia cos he sucks right now.

On July 13 2017 23:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
It is a paradox to give me any credit and make that claim but this really doesn't further the game at all for me so it's now just filter padding.

If I am mafia then who are my team?

On July 13 2017 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i am somehow wrong on ruxxar then i think Koshi might be mafia.

On July 13 2017 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

you are weird

On July 13 2017 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

can you unweird yourself at home?

On July 13 2017 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

:O
can i call you Tina too?

On July 13 2017 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
off-topic: Koshi i am interested, is this the girl you were going out with in the middle of the other game?

On July 14 2017 22:38 ruXxar wrote:


Read the thread then come back again.

Bye.

On July 14 2017 22:44 Skynx wrote:

Koshi had a similar baseless read. Correctly reading sl is pretty nai.

On July 14 2017 00:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
does she call you God yet?

On July 14 2017 22:56 ruXxar wrote:


That's why I said read the thread.

On July 15 2017 05:19 Rels wrote:

Then:

? You suddenly doubted that your meta read was for scum!VA ?

On July 15 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
remember that rels guy that promised to be around? I sure do

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 15 2017 05:35 rsoultin wrote:


more like if koshi's gonna just be a shithead i don't want to play with him in this game >< at the risk of using emo blackmail, i'm not putting up with the sexist bs anymore ><

On July 15 2017 05:48 Damdred wrote:


Yes will 100% back his claim

On July 15 2017 07:02 emperorchampion wrote:


Masons :D???

On July 15 2017 18:25 emperorchampion wrote:


Like this post is exactly wrong, maybe damdy can chime in more, but I assume there was some tmi in the read.

Mafia motivation is to fit in, buddy rayn for same reads.

On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:
I promissed a list so there we go

Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred
rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday.
This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far.
geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while

Town: rsoultinVivax
I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell)

Null: Rels, sicklucker
Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now.

Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor

They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up.

Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this.

On July 16 2017 04:15 ruXxar wrote:
My scumteam is koshi + 2.

On July 16 2017 05:27 sicklucker wrote:
Whats that have to do with anything. your denying you forgot your read? No ones lock town in this game

On July 16 2017 05:28 sicklucker wrote:
It just weird you call me town. I dont post then you call me maybe scum. I mean its not like your saying im for sure mafia but it seems like you forgot your read

On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:

- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town

On July 17 2017 01:19 Rels wrote:

For the emotional post ? I have the absolute opposite conclusion

On July 17 2017 01:20 Holyflare wrote:
koshi just confirmed himself mafia for that read so it's ok

On July 17 2017 01:29 Holyflare wrote:


this is such a god damn fucking good post

think back to rayn and me talking about damdred, I said that damdred's points on geript were all way too weird for a town damdred to do and it looked like tmi

since they are masons it becomes obvious why but that's only to people that don't know they are town, to a mafia (koshi) it has to be explained as a town reading a town a certain way, aka tmi from koshi

On July 17 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:




K

On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited

On July 16 2017 12:50 Tumblewood wrote:
##vote rels yada yada

a question: are masons ever opposite alignment? cause it seems like they wouldn't necessarily have to be both town or both mafia

On July 17 2017 02:15 sicklucker wrote:


lol. rels was playing before hf shared his red check tho.

On July 17 2017 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
your a nice guy but your still mafia. hes a fucking douchebag but hes probably still town. unfortunately for you I dont vote with mt heart

On July 17 2017 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:


I'm legit frustrated because your reasons for thinking I'm scum are bs. But that's probably because you're scum so I should chill

On July 17 2017 02:34 Rels wrote:

You didn't not post at all, you made a few posts that lacked decisiveness and excuses

On July 17 2017 02:36 sicklucker wrote:


He probably still is thinks for the info. I have never seen you disappear for 2 full days of mafia. and holyflare was right your read on rstoulin was hot trash that made no sense in the context of the game.

Anyway im not playing anymore untill monday gtg. omg game of thrones is out today too!

On July 17 2017 02:37 Rels wrote:

he goes on after the post you quoted to say Skynx wasn't his preferred lynch though

On July 17 2017 02:41 Rels wrote:

he could prefer lynching Skynx over VA. Given his weird post on VA it makes sense that he would have preferred to lynch someone else than VA.

On July 15 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
if i'm correct geript, ec, and damdred are masons?
don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch

On July 17 2017 02:46 Holyflare wrote:


He made exact same reads 2 games ago with bs reasoning that he got called out for repeatedly and was town.

Also does it as mafia.

On July 15 2017 05:30 rsoultin wrote:


nope i'm refusing to lynch him for the same reason i'm lynching koshi. the best part is koshi actually has a decent chance of flipping scum ^^ vote with me if you want town points!

On July 17 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:


I had the same thought.

Rels backed off HF too fast for my liking.

On July 17 2017 03:07 Tumblewood wrote:

the first part is patently untrue, and you just made the second part up

On July 17 2017 03:17 ruXxar wrote:


I like this post.

On July 17 2017 03:17 Tumblewood wrote:

you. and i thought hf had a redcheck on rels so he was hard scum, but now i don't know what's what with that

On July 17 2017 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
why has your playstyle miraculously deviated from your plan koshi?

On July 17 2017 03:23 Tumblewood wrote:

wtf, my read on ruxxar is exactly what you said mafia has a hard time faking. and what do you mean it doesn't relate to playing mafia? it's part of my defense of myself, and you can base reads off of non-read-related posts anyway. this is bullshit

On July 17 2017 03:23 ruXxar wrote:


Maybe he's wrong, but you could easily argue it either way, and there's no way to prove you wrong.

On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he?

On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:
Koshi did you read my case on TW?

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 03:34 ruXxar wrote:
Also koshi, what is your opinion on HF fake claim.

Scum or town?

On July 17 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:
koshi, what are your reads that don't concern me or vivax?

On July 17 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:


What does this mean?

On July 17 2017 03:41 ruXxar wrote:
*Solving* the game.

Isn't that a term you use about someone who is town?

I thought you was calling TW scum.

On July 17 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:


playing battlerite innit

On July 16 2017 05:16 sicklucker wrote:
noted that ec cant even remember his own reads. he calls me town at last deadline then less then 24 hours later im "forgotten" and scum

On July 16 2017 05:28 sicklucker wrote:
It just weird you call me town. I dont post then you call me maybe scum. I mean its not like your saying im for sure mafia but it seems like you forgot your read

On July 17 2017 03:47 Holyflare wrote:


did the innit not make it sound like a joke reply?

On July 16 2017 19:43 ruXxar wrote:


I can see that.

I know I look bad for my defending of VA, so I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I think TW also looks bad for his supposed town read on VA.

I wouldn't say it's definitely mafia though, since I'm town and reached the same conclusion.

What most bothers me about TW, is how little doubt he has about any of his reads.

His reads are static and non evolving as the game progresses.

Most notably very few ingame events makes him reconsider his reads, which means that his reads are locked regardless of what we do.
That is a sign of someone with TMI aka mafia.

On July 17 2017 04:00 Rels wrote:

TBH without myself it looks good. You're beginning to look like town

On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:


You don't answer my question.

Why?

On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

On July 17 2017 04:10 ruXxar wrote:


If you had played like last game I'd have no reason to scum read you.

On July 17 2017 04:13 ruXxar wrote:


??? That analogy is about recollecting memory.

It has nothing to do with you forming a new opinion on a subject.

On July 17 2017 04:14 Holyflare wrote:


So let me ask you this. You were wrong about TW's meta in your original post which means you don't even know how he correctly plays or what he posts like. So how do you now know that TW is a confident person that says his reads and doesn't care how he looks if you didn't know the first time?

ALSO isn't this read the exact same as what you're scum reading TW for about how he forced a read onto VA about him being excited and town? It looks the same to me.

On July 17 2017 04:21 Holyflare wrote:


THIS is how you define TW's town game, correct?

Right, so now you are saying this whereas previously you said this:



So you've gone somehow from TW not being someone to make those reads into TW being someone that makes those reads and doesn't care how he looks (as town) out of thin air.

Where did that switch come from?

On July 17 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
You went from this:

To this:


What changed in between?

On July 17 2017 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes?

On July 17 2017 04:32 Holyflare wrote:


you said only mafia plays in absolutes (which is an absolute and therefore you're mafia) but actually TW as town plays in absolutes too so you have no idea what you're talking about and made up false meta

On July 17 2017 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
why has your playstyle miraculously deviated from your plan koshi?

On July 17 2017 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax please turn up.

On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar?

On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
Why is sl mafia Koshi? Gimme one of them senpai reads.

On July 17 2017 06:36 Skynx wrote:

Park the bus.

On July 17 2017 07:16 Skynx wrote:

I don't mind HF's reasons for voting you. Your read progression doesn't look natural to me. These come out of nowhere.
How can you townread Ruxxar? How can you now townread tina since she has not posted anything ai??

You townread EC here, then scumread based on sl association + my stuff on him then back to townreading him + Show Spoiler + then back to scumread + Show Spoiler + ???????????

Your sicklucker read is also weak as fuck and you should know that.
You don't believe the mason claim first but they crumbed it at the start and many people pointed it out.

Lots of inconsistencies here Koshi.

On July 17 2017 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
And you say I'm mafia siding because you can't call me mafia :D :D

On July 17 2017 17:10 Holyflare wrote:


If you're town you are mafia siding more cos you're getting lynched

Git gud.

On July 17 2017 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
Maybe not though. We should 1000% be lynching koshi though. You guys just don't know what good mafia players look like when they try a bit. This is below subpar town koshi but he says he's playing well and got obvious mafia from a guy people already were gonna vote after him for reasons already in the thread so he's definitely mafia bussing.

I see all the signs.

QQ that he's got a really good case, berate people and call them mafia but do nothing about it, make absolutely no other fleshed out reads in the game. Classic scum bus.

On July 17 2017 01:27 ruXxar wrote:


##vote holyflare

Die scum.

On July 17 2017 01:34 ruXxar wrote:
Anybody not voting for HF goes on my scum list.

On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:


I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read.

And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly.

On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
HF is just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow on TW. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win (probably Ruxxar) riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.

It's a good plan. Kuddos.

Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.

On July 17 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:


Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels.

On July 17 2017 19:41 Holyflare wrote:
Simply there's a massive discrepancy between:



When Skynx votes for your non-mafia read and rels who you just flat out call mafia for pushing your scum read.

You clearly hadn't read skynx's filter at this point and he's voting on ruxxar who you town read but you don't call him mafia.

Why do you call rels mafia for doing the same thing when rels is quoting ec posts and voting off wagon but on your mafia read?

What's the difference between skynx and rels that makes you scum read someone who is pushing your scum read with 24 hours to go over someone pushing your town read?

On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels?

On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:

- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town

On July 16 2017 06:06 emperorchampion wrote:
lol rels is red for reals?

On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar

On July 17 2017 22:16 Vivax wrote:
I'm at P34 with a rayn and geript town lean. Nullish on Ruxxar and Damdred. Scummy on Koshi and emc. The Skynx entry post on rayn seemed a blown out version of "why aren't you talking about x", but I'm not sure that it makes him mafia.

HF looks bored all around but ends up p. much at the same reads. I never saw him explaining what emc slipped exactly, or missed it idk. Null for now.

I don't think I have time to do a proper read until Dline since I'm going out now and will be back evening-ish, so I'm just going to sheep rayn, maybe HF if he doesn't post something that advises me not to.

On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
HF is just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow on TW. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win (probably Ruxxar) riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.

It's a good plan. Kuddos.

Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.

On July 17 2017 22:25 Vivax wrote:
Well it's not going to happen quickly I have to head out now and will be devoted to catching up further when I'm back.
You were scumreading my slot D1 btw did something change? You just talked to me about HF as if you knew I'm town.

On July 18 2017 01:09 emperorchampion wrote:


I need to stop being lazy and really look between you and rels. So if you're willing to help I'll take it.

Right now I am pretty 50/50 between you and rels. Ruxxar is a bit behind that, and tumble out in fourth. Probably because you were both so behind on the game before you started playing, but at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you.

I'll put in some time now to try and sort things out

On July 18 2017 01:27 Tumblewood wrote:
i figure at this point ec and koshi are scum for reasons already well-documented and the last one is probably sl, or i'm getting blindsided by rels or hf

On July 18 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Kochi and tw give me your opinions on

Rels
Rux
And ec

Just humor me. Maybe two sentences

On July 18 2017 05:18 Rels wrote:

I hate this sentence.

On July 18 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
The EC wagon is a travesty.

On July 18 2017 05:22 geript wrote:

To be fair, scum are more likely to bus you

On July 18 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote:
Idk I still feel like town koshi would go a bit more for tw in this context and not just lamely hit ec with a vote.

On July 18 2017 05:26 Holyflare wrote:

I don't wear a mask.

On July 18 2017 05:27 Damdred wrote:


Let me be paranoid and figure my way around lol

On July 18 2017 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
let's lynch tw then?

On July 18 2017 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
sl is absolutely confirmed mafia now

On July 18 2017 06:55 geript wrote:

Too lazy to go back and look right now, but didn't Koshi basically use this argument against him earlier?