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On July 08 2017 18:15 beentheredonethat wrote: One /cohost and two more /ins, then we're good to go. Are there any open questions from any side? This is the first time I'm hosting a closed setup, so apologies in advance for any potential blunders. The game won't start before 14/08 as long as no co-host is in who is willing to host on his own for the initial days as I am staying in the UK during the next week due to work. Come say hi? | ||
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On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. then why even make this comment? ##vote raynpelikoneet | ||
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On July 13 2017 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think youre trying too hard to do something that cannot accomplish anything ![]() No, it's actual a really serious vote. You just made a redundant post that said absolutely nothing and I think you're mafia for it. | ||
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On July 13 2017 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: yuo know holyflare, all my posts so far have been quite redundant if you wanna put it that way. not only the one you "figured out". Not really, those are off topic useless posts. This one has some semblance of you struggling to fit into the game but actually not being able to. Die mafia. | ||
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On July 13 2017 07:22 geript wrote: Hey HF. Find the worst post in the thread up to this point and quote it. On July 13 2017 06:10 rsoultin wrote: Lexy kicked me out for hosty reasons pffft. Leave me gifts for morning? ♡s a ruxxy pupil want to vomit blood On July 13 2017 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: i think you're trying a bit too hard for the state of the game but i dont know what it means. trying to start scum hunting but struggles + rest of filter he just rolled scum so this "new strat" he's trying is mafia fatigue till he gets in the swing of it and feels like cases/playing again | ||
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Also I like the ruxxar read I have to admit. | ||
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On July 13 2017 11:04 ruXxar wrote: Damdred, you know a lot of people playing mafia. Why is Tina any more scum than anyone else with low/no posts. I could apply the same meta read to rels, or VA or tumblewood. And for a fact I don't even agree with your rsoul meta read of her not doing anything when mafia. From my own personal experience with her she fights hard even as mafia. But the fact that you chose her out of all the people in the game to put a scum meta read on makes no sense to me. How is this any different to what you were doing with Geript? | ||
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Anyway I'm at work, bye ![]() My feels for today: Damdred feels off, kinda angry. Rayn is ok. EC slipped. Rsoul looks like mafia saying nothing. Koshi good sheep. Geript sensible but doesn't mean much. Maybe good. Ruxxar spam and lacked follow up on ec. Don't necessarily buy his excuse but will leave him alone to do something else. Anyone else played yet? | ||
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It's also not like you used to play. Patriarchy strikes again. | ||
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I am voting for who I think is most likely to be mafia I'm afraid. | ||
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On July 13 2017 13:56 emperorchampion wrote: This reads like a tient response to me. Tumble what did you mean re: associative reads regarding me? Sleeping on it, Rayn is in a bit of a weird spot for me atm. Don't really follow the logic of the dropped "case" since I never really felt there was a case in the first place (another thing that bothered me a bit). Just not 100% convinced that town thinks rux is scum for that. I did like rayn's post about his thoughts so far (the one in spoilers, on mobile otherwise would link), reflects the thought process I have a lot of the time. Other things: damdred uninspiring from what I recall reading. His hard defense of a one post person is odd. Feel ok about geript for now, looks open with thoughts. Rux I'm fine with where he's going right now. This is like the post rayn asked earlier if it was a mafia or a town post. He starts saying he's conflicted on rayn because he doesn't understand his logic. Then he says he liked him because of one post and a mindset he has a lot of the time? It's so weirdly worded. (bolded is slip, who calls the collective town like that?). Kind of a mafia hedge post. | ||
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On July 13 2017 15:54 rsoultin wrote: to be more specific, i see a waffleface on rayn a why is damdy hard-defending tina's one post of awesome - oops he was saying lynch her for that and a prod that to me seemed more aimed at joni than damdy? so what am i missing here? Also this post is wrong. Ec is saying damdred hard defended geript and he didn't like it. Which is a good comment to make because it doesn't make sense if you don't know damdred that well. | ||
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I did. He said damdred feels off for his defence of a person off of one post. That was geript at the time. | ||
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On July 13 2017 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean, i think geript is doing the gumshoe incident thingy™ where he is not trying to figure out who is mafia rather than saying things he thinks town wants to hear. I can get behind that. More thread coppy than giving reads. Literally trying to disprove things to you while town reading you. Waste of time. | ||
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On July 13 2017 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's the way he presents the geript read, regardless of if he is right or wrong it makes him town. Oh you mean this. Don't agree. | ||
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Still feel like damdred was uncharacteristically annoyed somehow. | ||
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On July 13 2017 14:54 Holyflare wrote: How is this any different to what you were doing with Geript? This is a good post though. Ruxxar gets called out for poeing geript out of players that are playing. Throws a hissy fit when called out. Then calls out damdred for not thinking about low/no post people. | ||
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I also think it's extremely uncharacteristic of damdred to throw out that many reasons on his read on geript this early whereas normally he just has a few feels and sticks to those instead. | ||
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On July 13 2017 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred, elaborate please.... This doesn't make any sense, you either think you have a read on me or you don't. You're saying both here. He's talking to ruxxar. | ||
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On July 13 2017 20:11 ruXxar wrote: You are confused. I called out geript for looking for targets to sheep. I called out damdred for attributing a meta a meta scum read to rsoul when there are plenty of people to attribute scum meta reads to who have no or very low post count. And who would those people be? | ||
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On July 13 2017 20:11 ruXxar wrote: You are confused. I called out geript for looking for targets to sheep. I called out damdred for attributing a meta a meta scum read to rsoul when there are plenty of people to attribute scum meta reads to who have no or very low post count. Yes but the point is your argument that you fought against rayn was that "oh geript is scummy by poe out of the people that posted because what is the point of reading 0 post players!" Then you are confused why dandred isn't targeting 0 post players. | ||
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On July 13 2017 08:08 ruXxar wrote: This statement is clearly bullshit because I can only Poe people that have posted so far. Also, 1+1 = 2, more news at 11. You posted this. Why couldn't damdred do the same? | ||
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On July 13 2017 20:53 ruXxar wrote: Because damdred clearly said he wanted to lynch rsoul based on meta activity and *not* based on the post she actually made. There's an important distinction here that is crucial to my argument. His read was nothing about activity. It was dull, boring and not interactive. | ||
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Because I could post 20 pages of filter and still be dull, boring and not interactive?? It doesn't matter anymore though because it clearly means activity to you so my point is moot. Carry on. | ||
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On July 13 2017 21:02 ruXxar wrote: How is a person with 1 post supposed to be "interactive"? Make a read and interact with a person instead of saying hi and leaving. It's not that she has one post but what she did with her time here that he's commenting on. | ||
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On July 13 2017 21:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: what i mean is i don't think that makes EC mafia, but i think it is a townie observation to make, it is a townie makes that observation like 70% of the time regardless of it's truth value. So we're in the 30% right now? | ||
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On July 13 2017 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: emperorchampion Skynx Damdred - i am going to agree with Koshi here Koshi Holyflare VayneAuthority - hasn't posted Rels - boooring Tumblewood - booring, can't tell, he does these retarded "i see an argument -> i am just gonna say it's tvt" as both alignment sicklucker - not sure for reasons i dont wanna discuss yet rsoultin geript ruXxar You're going to agree with koshi despite what I said? | ||
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On July 13 2017 21:38 sicklucker wrote: I mean at the time I made that vote I thought the deadline was in a few hours and I had a full day ahead of me. beggers cant be choosers. but I think I got another 24 hours to read random spew and pray we lynch mafia more then average You thought the deadline was in a few hours even though you just confirmed last night? | ||
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On July 13 2017 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is a response to Holyflare's post where he at least implies he thinks i am mafia. what is geript doing here? he thinks i might be mafia for some unclaimed reason that is not in the latter post but instead of laying out the reason he calls me town and lists other reasons why i am off? Holyflare, a question: Is it just my bad english but what do you make of this: "if i am scum i want holyflare to be scum"? who says that? like how does that make any sense, do you think if geript is mafia (let's assume he is town here and telling the truth) he wants to bring up a big shitfight between you two for basically any reason (that's how i read it in case he is town). Basically if he's mafia he wants me to be mafia because I'm good at diverting the thread and shit fighting distractions. | ||
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On July 13 2017 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: btw i might be in london december 22th if the stars fall right, then i can call you tina all night ![]() :D | ||
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On July 13 2017 22:43 VayneAuthority wrote: I am fairly certain either ruxxar or holyflare is mafia, leaning towards ruxxar. Riveting. | ||
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Not after you've mentioned him. Also yes. | ||
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Repeatedly references making people do stuff but then only talked about koshi doing nothing and her EC read. Her EC read is based on EC hedging but rayn already explained the hedging is what he does as town (skeptical still but I haven't read them) and she hasn't acknowledged it, updated her read or even bothered to do anything else. She's way too ott buddy buddy and not grr Rsoul. Basically sl copying my read but making a nice summary of "princess". Also has a bad damd town pass because damd thinks she's mafia for his afk rsoul read even though she says if he's mafia it's not true. Lynch plz. Could also support the va lynch in unison. Count me as double voting. | ||
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On July 14 2017 00:25 Damdred wrote: Geript is always awesome town, my partner in crime and we will ride till I die. Rayn is pretty sexy town in this situation. Has all the fun rayn towns. Sl is town now (For now). He just cared to much in a short burst for him to be mafia d1 do me, even if hes lying about the mistake that is. Tina is interesting, part of me thinks that she is a bit fake in what she is doing. And it seemed to be a bit antagonistic towards hf which she generally does more as scum. Overall I'm a bit torn about her but would put a scum lean on her just from a tonal and content point of view. Hf is interesting but I'm holding cards to chest on this one. I sort of think town, but for okish reasons. I'm unsure of ec, some of his stuff is just kinda meh here. Rux I sort of think is still town just says stud that digs him deeper and doesn't want to turn around from it. I kinda find it more town that stubbornness cause there's no point in keep in him going. Why are you unsure of her when you say everything she is doing is mafia rsoul? | ||
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Content - mafia Tone - mafia But still unsure?? What else is there to be more sure on? | ||
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On July 14 2017 02:18 ruXxar wrote: I feel like you're holding back since you actually want to live past N1. I'm not holding back anything, I just have little motivation. | ||
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On July 14 2017 02:30 Skynx wrote: Ja. If you hate getting N1'd why not smurf? I don't hate getting N1'd and when I smurf I just get shot anyway lol. | ||
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On July 14 2017 05:17 rsoultin wrote: also just fyi no matter my alignment you boys really have to realize that the sexist shit is totally not okay. we're all here to have fun, not be belittled for our genitalia not gonna call anyone out but there's a reason i remember these things months later and the list keeps growing bigger Classic woman. | ||
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I don't buy it. His rsoul read looks fucking suspicious now I think rsoul is town. | ||
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On July 14 2017 01:59 Holyflare wrote: Why are you unsure of her when you say everything she is doing is mafia rsoul? | ||
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ruXxar Tumblewood Koshi VayneAuthority Damdred Skynx sicklucker Play better please. | ||
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On July 14 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote: Ruxxar/skynx/va switch with damdred outlier I did there. He's in my list now. | ||
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In fact VA is uncharacteristically not on any outlying wagon. More concerned with how he looks than anything. | ||
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On July 14 2017 06:22 Holyflare wrote: Rels ruXxar Tumblewood Koshi VayneAuthority Damdred Skynx sicklucker Play better please. I'm gonna stop looking so good. Step up. | ||
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"can't remember what he wrote" is garbage | ||
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Definitely not blue either. | ||
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On July 14 2017 07:20 Holyflare wrote: I'm removing rsoul from my town list. I just can't bring myself to keep her there. No way she has me in a list of people she wants to lynch with Koshi and EC when the only time in the game she's interacted with me was when she saw that I had the same thoughts on EC as her "can't remember what he wrote" is garbage Nobody gonna mention this? | ||
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On July 14 2017 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think it is her mafia play to make a scumlist of 2 people who she basically cannot lynch in any way at this point of the game and one person who she isn't really even trying to lynch. Unless ofc we are complete garbage atm as a town. Hmmm You make good points, sir. Very well. | ||
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On July 14 2017 01:59 Holyflare wrote: Why are you unsure of her when you say everything she is doing is mafia rsoul? Open the spoiler. Read the bolded bit on rsoul with the mind that she's town. Why is he posting a million reasons she's mafia but then adding that he's torn? It's because it gives him an out and she's town and he knows it. | ||
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But then he said he's trying to improve his reads so I think he'd be a little more hesitant on that. I don't know. I'm super hedging. | ||
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It might just be fucking boring rels/va someone tbh. | ||
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Why did you defend va when he literally said himself it's his mafia meta? | ||
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On July 14 2017 19:00 ruXxar wrote: All over the place as in? My vote record has been straight as an arrow. I always place my vote where I believe it's most likely to hit mafia at any current time. With me what you see is what you get. My vote has gone koshi -> skynx. Clear as day. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. On July 14 2017 08:17 ruXxar wrote: Basically I'm willing to give him a chance, but if I keep seeing a pattern of cases that misrepresents actual thread events my opinion will change real quick. Then what is this shit? Biggest out in history. You're not even committed to it. | ||
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On July 14 2017 19:11 ruXxar wrote: Because as much as VA looks bad, I don't necessarily see mafia motivation behind his post. Skynx case on Rayn has all the signs of being a mafia driven post. To people who didn't pay attention to the thread it looks like a aging town case. To people who read the thread you can see all the small holes in the information presented. It's basically a deja vu of how btdt cased skynx last game. There's an incredibly stark contrast between my last post quotes and this. You at first don't even think he's mafia and give him an out. Now it's obvious mafia and similar to btdt?? | ||
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Then you got told he doesn't. Then it's oh, maybe he's trying something new as town. But it's his mafia meta and he admitted it. Then there's no mafia motivation to do his mafia meta. ?????? | ||
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On July 14 2017 20:06 ruXxar wrote: Skynx case on Rayn was flawed and I've always said that. The only point of contention is whether he did it intentionally as mafia or as misguided town. And why is it more mafia now?? I don't even think the case is great on skynx. And why is va still not mafia when your point about having no mafia agenda is proven false by the fact it's his mafia meta? | ||
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On July 14 2017 20:10 ruXxar wrote: Then tell me, what is the mafia motivation behind VAs posts? Because even though he looks really bad/weird I can't see any clear mafia driven agenda behind it. Whereas in skynx case I've seen mafia make that exact kind of posts before. Why does it need "agenda"? It's His Mafia Meta Even admitted it himself when he got caught out! | ||
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Seems bit carefree? Like I said bit weak. | ||
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Dunno like 7 people :D So admittedly really not hard to be mafia. Just doesn't feel that scummy to me idk. Gut. | ||
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On July 14 2017 20:32 ruXxar wrote: I don't care what VA says about himself. I care about what he does and why he would do those things. Right now he's not doing much of anything, which means he could be lumped into a pile of looks bad but no clear agenda. Are you even reading the same fucking thread dude? Koshi/rayn jumpes on va for being mafia so fast and called him mafia for doing his mafia meta. He is forced to claim it's his meta at this point. So his agenda is he's pushing his mafia meta. Literally I can't comprehend what you're saying. It blows my mind so much that you have to be mafia. What he DID DO was his usual mafia agenda!!! So let me ask again. Why are you saying there's no mafia agenda? Why does all mafia have to have any other agenda than "live"? | ||
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On July 14 2017 20:39 ruXxar wrote: I didn't SR you right away since I have a soft spot/blindside for "bad town". I've now decided to see what happens when I go against that intuition, breaking that barrier. So you think he's bad town but you're calling him mafia just because you feel like you should? | ||
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On July 14 2017 20:46 ruXxar wrote: Every persons macro agenda, town or scum is to "live". That doesn't mean mafia don't have other goals such as misdirecting town or trying to gain town credit. Holy fucking shit you're just mafia. There's no other explanation for this. | ||
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On July 14 2017 21:49 ruXxar wrote: No, i think his case on Rayn is bad, and I can see why mafia would make such a post. And why can't town make such a post? You quite easily thought a bad town skynx could make it so why is it suddenly a mafia skynx? Where's the difference? You even state yourself it's a terribly low percentage play for mafia to make so why is it mafia agenda and not a towny making a bad case? I don't even think it's that awful like you seem to outline. | ||
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On July 14 2017 22:39 Koshi wrote: I actually read her filter and there is nothing. She is still mafia. Also maybe not mafia. But probably. | ||
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On July 14 2017 22:29 Holyflare wrote: I'm voting va because I don't think he's ever read me wrong when he's town and now he has me in an arbitrary list. On July 14 2017 22:33 Holyflare wrote: Why? If his whole shtick is vote and kill analysis why do you think he's making arbitrary lists containing someone he doesn't usually read wrong? Hint: survival Let me just repeat this. | ||
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Do you think he needs all this babying you're giving him? Can you even remember as far back as one game ago when va got called out as town and didn't give two fucks and voted who he pleased off wagon because he didn't care? Not a stark comparison for you? Gets caught doing mafia things and trolls non stop? Is it not weird he's not replying to anything you write with sense? | ||
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On July 14 2017 23:26 VayneAuthority wrote: the earliest ive ever been lynched as mafia is day 3. Sometimes you just have to remind people meta isn't the end all for scum hunting. | ||
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On July 15 2017 02:26 geript wrote: Idk about Rux. He's been super active. But skynx and I could both be Town. ????????.?. Um? | ||
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I'm questioning why the fuck he randomly thinks skynx is town now after being so convicted before. | ||
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Geript is probably mafia because now he's just sheeping what myself and rayn said whereas before he was all happy with it being a mafia case. On July 14 2017 07:25 geript wrote: I can too too, I just find it much less likely to happen considering how consistently bad he's been. geript tell me in depth what has changed your mind please | ||
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Like what the fuck do you expect her to post in response to how do you read me? "Oh, HF is good mafia I can read him because of what he does and this game he's not doing anything but maybe I'm just paranoid?" that's the most generic response you can give | ||
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On July 15 2017 04:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am gtoeing a scumread on Damdred. finally | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:35 rsoultin wrote: more like if koshi's gonna just be a shithead i don't want to play with him in this game >< at the risk of using emo blackmail, i'm not putting up with the sexist bs anymore >< why are you so victimised? when did he ever say anything sexist? | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:41 rsoultin wrote: you know, i don't know why i'm so surprised that va is the only one who took that seriously. you shit on me, koshi calls it emo blackmail, i've got people citing hormones and female vomit and all kinds of shit maybe you guys just don't get it cause you've never been there, or maybe it's cause when people say sexist things about guys it's rarely negative, but it's fucking getting on my nerves like i usually ignore it but i shouldn't have to >< I did not shit on you. I don't care that you post with ~~~s and <3s but that is inexplicably a female thing to do on the internet. You were posting excessive amounts of those and it looked like buddying. That is all. Emo blackmail is gender neutral. hormones and female vomit was bull shit sexism though and he got called out carry on though | ||
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On July 15 2017 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I sm gonna laugh my ass off in cade geript lynches me as any alignment. In that csde i eill never play with anyone who votef for me ever. And thats a promise. That's also breaking the rules that you dearly love. | ||
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Don't try and push your agenda on me. This is purely mafia game. I don't care about the fact that it could be viewed as sexist to say you post a lot of hearts, traditionally female of origin, and it gives me an aneurysm to read because it did. It looks like you were being far too ott to make friends rather than give reads. Simple as that. If you don't like the sexism in this game then post about it post game. Ask the mods to deal with it. Your constant whine about it achieves nothing and is a boring drag. I'm sorry that you feel victimised but most of us are here to play mafia. It's unfortunate that some people devolve to petty insults and sexism (I thought mine was a quite obvious joke meant to tease) but don't bring it up repeatedly. | ||
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On July 15 2017 17:22 Holyflare wrote: If you were a man and had posted hearts previously and then had done what you had done this game I would post exactly the same things. Especially the Artanis thing. Perhaps adding female to vomit was unnecessary and I apologise. But I will never apologise for saying artanis dulled your wit because that is simply what has happened. You're not a fighting bite-y person anymore. You could be a man/transgender/gender fluid/female/apache attack helicopter and it's the same thing. Entirely gender neutral. Good day. | ||
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On July 14 2017 07:20 Holyflare wrote: I'm removing rsoul from my town list. I just can't bring myself to keep her there. No way she has me in a list of people she wants to lynch with Koshi and EC when the only time in the game she's interacted with me was when she saw that I had the same thoughts on EC as her "can't remember what he wrote" is garbage Explain | ||
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On July 15 2017 18:06 beentheredonethat wrote: A replacement is needed for Generic Mini III. zzzzzzzzzzzzz | ||
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On July 15 2017 18:36 Holyflare wrote: I'm just gonna lead the ruxxar wagon tomorrow. Don't quote me on this though. I heavily think he could also be town. | ||
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On July 15 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote: HF is actually a really good mafia candidate. He keeps shouting from the rooftops that every mother and his dog are mafia but doesn't do jack shit with his reads. He just soft pushes people then backs off. It's a waffling insecure HF, who's all bark, no bite. That's not the HF I saw last game. Definitely my madia meta | ||
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On July 16 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a hard time of believing Tina was wrong on everything she said and while i dont always understand her (read: i never understand her), she probably has some point on EC that actually is valid. Her read is simply my read. That he waffled on you and didn't do much. | ||
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On July 16 2017 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: nothing is 100% but probably yes. yeah idk about your two read since i never understood that from the beginning, that's my bad. I townread him for some reasons and had "better" reasons to not look back at the people i poe'd early (aka VA). Was talking about ruxxar scum reading me. | ||
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On July 16 2017 02:19 ruXxar wrote: In this case the accusation made perfect sense before I read your filter. That's bull shit. I implore people to read your initial post accusing me. Your accusations are the EXACT SAME as what you concluded when you read my filter!! | ||
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On July 16 2017 02:31 ruXxar wrote: I also tried to reason to myself how your waffling on rsoul would constitute a mafia agenda, and I couldn't come up with an argument that I didn't think would be ridiculed. Aka it's trash. The fact that your waffling could be a mafia trait. The issue is that the people you are waffling on has no impact on the lynch. So it didn't really matter. The only thing I could find that could resemble mafia motivation is the fact that you call koshi mafia and later sheep his vote on VA. But since Rayn was also there to push it, I can't say that is your only reason for doing so and again the argument falls short. So I waffled and had no impact on a town lynch and there's no mafia motivation there? :D :D | ||
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On July 16 2017 02:38 ruXxar wrote: Besides looking like you're doing something when in fact you are doing nothing, then no. Hahahahahahahahagaga You're too funny | ||
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Forgot you scum read sl Say you didn't forget Proven wrong Theb retroactively defend that read saying you don't remember what he's done and he's scummy The fact you didn't remember scum reading him and then give reasons ti scum read him is bull shit. You are confirmed mafia niw. | ||
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On July 16 2017 05:29 emperorchampion wrote: I just forgot about you until damdred mentioned you in the post above. You can be scum cause the only thing I have to town read you on so far is tone | ||
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Sl quotes where you say he could be scum Then you say he can be scum because you only read him town on tone Now yiu say he's town?? | ||
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Rels is red check. ##vote rels | ||
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On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote: I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar ![]() Ummmmmmm no you're not | ||
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On July 16 2017 06:18 Damdred wrote: Cop+mason is a stupid setup. Rayn being a Miller is ok but still Si there's a random miller dor 0 reasin? | ||
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They could still be masons but thsy didn't die idk | ||
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Why would you even ask that question at that point? Break down your thought process to me. | ||
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If you have concerns that I'm mafia fake claiming and have already determined that if rels were to flip green I should be lynched why are you checking something so obvious with the thread? Furthermore, since you have this thought process you absolutely need to explain what my mafia motivation is (that thing you completely love saying) to claim a red check on a rels that will inevitably flip green and lose all the amazing town credit I have from 90% of the game? What's the play? Trade one me for one afk rels for no reason? | ||
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On July 16 2017 22:24 ruXxar wrote: Having two confirmed towns and a cop in a 13 man game is incredibly town sided. I personally think having mssons in a mini mafia game is quite a fun killer. and yet when I questioned it you were the one trying to throw shade at it there's absolutely no way you're town here | ||
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There's 0% chance I ever do that again. Especially as mafia I know there's absolutely no way to talk out of that. | ||
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You have so many dumps of drivel it's ridiculous. You say I'm cherry picking that I didn't quote how you disbelieved the masons and instead believed them and not me. Then you're saying I'm probably fake claiming and haven't even put a vote on rels the whole day which makes the above statement false. Then you say that you think masons in a game are broken but for some reason still disbelieve a 1 shot cop with a red check. Then you say if rels is green that I'm definitely mafia even though there is no reason in this world to fake claim ever. | ||
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On July 16 2017 23:03 Rels wrote: Framer almost always frames their own team. So you're committing I see. Noone else shall be lynched until one of me / HF flips scum ##Vote Holyflare So you're just confirming yourself as mafia.............................???? hahahahahahaha | ||
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I am just going to post this here as an example of why I will never ever fake claim cop as town or mafia again on day 2 again. | ||
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On July 16 2017 23:57 Rels wrote: wtf. I would also be angry if I was in rsoul's position Oh please get off your high horse. It's clearly in jest. | ||
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On July 17 2017 00:49 Rels wrote: lol why should I know that. I'm actually pretty curious you say I'm mafia 100% guaranteed and vote me so why am I mafia? | ||
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On July 17 2017 00:57 Rels wrote: because you're saying you have a red check on me and that's your sole reason for scum reading me? that I have a red check day 2? You don't have a reason at all that I would have a red check on you if I was mafia? What's my motive? | ||
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I fake claimed once and it was horrible. Why the shit would I do that here? | ||
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Everything ruxxar has done this game is absolutely FULL of TMI. Not only with VA but with this claim too. I think rels could maybe actually be town purely for his appeal to me about fake claiming on this page and it's stupid but I'm gonna roll with it. I can't be bothered to work out how many mislynches there are till end game if rels flipped town but if it's one all of ruxxar's posts outline setting me up for the mislynch the next day when it's an obvious unspoken thing. | ||
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Then his rsoultin read is the most arse backwards thing I could ever see from him. The guy that town reads people on tone all day and he doesn't town read rsoultin/vivax for that post is not a koshi I know. | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:27 emperorchampion wrote: You said that the read was natural, but in fact it was cause of masons. this is such a god damn fucking good post think back to rayn and me talking about damdred, I said that damdred's points on geript were all way too weird for a town damdred to do and it looked like tmi since they are masons it becomes obvious why but that's only to people that don't know they are town, to a mafia (koshi) it has to be explained as a town reading a town a certain way, aka tmi from koshi | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:47 ruXxar wrote: No. I've had enough of your scummy shenanigans. Either lynch me or NK me. I'm not changing my vote until you are dead. Cool just remain on the sidelines then my friend and watch the magic happen. Why were my shenanigans scummy? I just wanted rels under pressure to see what happened. | ||
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On July 17 2017 01:17 Koshi wrote: lol. Can't believe it. Never seen masons in minis before. 0% chance this is true. On July 17 2017 02:04 Koshi wrote: If Damdred is mafia it is unlikely he makes that post about town!geript because he knows it looks bad. So logical conclusion is that it is more likely town!damdred making that post. K | ||
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[QUOTE]On July 17 2017 01:55 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On July 17 2017 01:51 ruXxar wrote: [QUOTE]On July 17 2017 01:35 Rels wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi[/QUOTE] Why?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On July 15 2017 05:01 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On July 15 2017 04:54 Koshi wrote: Did some1 tell me why rsoultin isnt mafia?[/QUOTE] Koshi not being thread dictator is worrying[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On July 16 2017 23:31 Rels wrote: I'm OK being traded for HF. But you all have to really commit to the HF lynch after I flip. Don't listen to anything he says, just vote him and discuss other stuff. The dude managed to not get lynched after he was red checked as scum. Now what's good is that I have absolutely no pressure. Let's see. geript / Damdred claimed masons. They are very likely to be masons. Basically, you should lynch one in LYLO if they're still both alive. Until then they can be conf town. rsoul emotional posts makes her town I think. I don't see her making these posts as scum. Skynx is awesome. In particular his Koshi. I disagree with him but I see exactly where he's coming from. That's how I treated Palmar last game. Koshi's pointless filter makes him scum. Even if he tryhards for one day later, the fact that it's not natural for him when it is usually natural for him is pretty damning. These are my strong reads. HF / Koshi + 1 is pretty likely. Gonna read the rest of the filters to see where I stand about the other players.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]On July 17 2017 01:34 Rels wrote: [QUOTE]On July 17 2017 01:25 Holyflare wrote: I absolutely despise koshi this game. There is 0% chance he goes from narcissistic ego maniac into 0 proper reads and afking for the whole game with 1 read on VA. Then his rsoultin read is the most arse backwards thing I could ever see from him. The guy that town reads people on tone all day and he doesn't town read rsoultin/vivax for that post is not a koshi I know.[/QUOTE] this is 100% true[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] Not posting at all is more likely town!Koshi than mafia!Koshi btw. Go look at my meta. The 4 games I was mafia in a row and the last one. I always posted constantly. Just less. So if meta falls away. What do you have left to call me mafia?[/QUOTE] A person intentionally doing nothing and making the game harder furthering mafia agenda. | ||
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On July 17 2017 02:09 ruXxar wrote: Can someone explain why HFs fake claim is not scummy? Seems like I'm the only one that doesn't get it. Because I'm clearly town dude. Pull your fingers out of your mafia ears and realise your agenda is failing. | ||
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On July 17 2017 02:26 sicklucker wrote: your a nice guy but your still mafia. hes a fucking douchebag but hes probably still town. unfortunately for you I dont vote with mt heart U said the play of being crap was good so i did it. U h8? | ||
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On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote: And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right. Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. He made exact same reads 2 games ago with bs reasoning that he got called out for repeatedly and was town. Also does it as mafia. | ||
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On July 17 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote: I had the same thought. Rels backed off HF too fast for my liking. Fuck off I'm lynching your top confirmed 100% mafia and now that read is suddenly magically gone? Hahahahahaha. | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote: started off strong, finished strong, skipped every other page in the middle. so i've seen hf posting about how he wouldn't fakeclaim cop, people discussing a fakeclaim in mild confusion, people yelling about mason/cop setups, and some votes. and i could reread pages 89-93 but i'm on mobile and not interested in doing that perhaps you should read them instead | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:49 geript wrote: So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so. because like I said before he did this last game as town too | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:50 Koshi wrote: Goddamnit Ruxxar. This is exactly what I said about TW.... dude doesn't remember any of his reads doesn't even remember he 100% scum reads you | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:51 ruXxar wrote: Explain what changed your mind to now reach this conclusion of being so sure. he did explain that in general tw is like that but isn't like that in this game | ||
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On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote: Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about. It's like: Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did. Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak. Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week. So let me ask you this. You were wrong about TW's meta in your original post which means you don't even know how he correctly plays or what he posts like. So how do you now know that TW is a confident person that says his reads and doesn't care how he looks if you didn't know the first time? ALSO isn't this read the exact same as what you're scum reading TW for about how he forced a read onto VA about him being excited and town? It looks the same to me. | ||
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On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote: I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true". Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game. And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own. THIS is how you define TW's town game, correct? Right, so now you are saying this whereas previously you said this: On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote: And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right. Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. So you've gone somehow from TW not being someone to make those reads into TW being someone that makes those reads and doesn't care how he looks (as town) out of thin air. Where did that switch come from? | ||
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On July 17 2017 04:29 Koshi wrote: I actually do know how he plays as town because I played a ton of games with him. I just didn't know that fact for sure. AS I FUCKING SAID. you said only mafia plays in absolutes (which is an absolute and therefore you're mafia) but actually TW as town plays in absolutes too so you have no idea what you're talking about and made up false meta | ||
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On July 17 2017 04:33 Koshi wrote: While I said "I am not sure if he plays like this" So I didn't try to push false meta in the game. I just cba to check it because I thought I was right. I fucking said: "I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS BUT" I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS WRONG META THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME BEFOREHAND BUT here is my read that states TW is not solving the game like his town meta and is therefore mafia. | ||
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On July 17 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote: like I don't give a shit, TW is probably mafia, I'm getting the read on you because you're just pulling stuff out your butt from thin air and making it fit smells like bus land to me | ||
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On July 17 2017 07:59 Koshi wrote: It's quite amazing how I come in and find mafia. And then people just ignore the mafia and vote me while agreeing with my mafia reads. You didn't find anything you just requoted what everyone had already said about tw and then effectively had no reads other than x is town, y is mafia. It's your own fault for being lynched. Maybe next time play the game when people were asking you to and provide substantial content. Even rels played less than you and has provided more useful content. | ||
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On July 17 2017 17:07 Koshi wrote: Nha I am saying you are mafia siding because you are probably not mafia. Just bad. If you're town you are mafia siding more cos you're getting lynched ![]() ![]() Git gud. | ||
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On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote: So in summary of the night and game so far: - hf is lock town for me - skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1. - ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game. - koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate. - tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read - rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night - sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him. - damdy and geript don't have much to say here - rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read - vivax is likely town Hmmm looks like mafia pointing out a team mate to me. | ||
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On July 17 2017 08:29 Koshi wrote: These last 5 votes have been so fucking horrible. Based on a false accusation of HF. Completely wasted vote as nobody will join Rels ever. Great vote if you are both mafia though. Says 2 people are mafia. Votes a third. Well this one makes sense. Any follow up? No? Didn't think so. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:16 geript wrote: Also, can those of you who are Town please shove your dicks back in your pants and stop trying to waggle them around and have a sword fight with them. Like, it's fucking terrible when I'm being the goddamn voice of reason. So you're saying koshi has contributed solid analysis that has driven the game forward and been productive at calling out people? Or you just like barking out and not acknowledging that he's pushed absolutely nobody he's called out? | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:27 geript wrote: I'm telling you to look at and evaluate what I wrote on EC. I haven't reread Koshi yet. If he's bussing EC; cool, I don't care which order I lynch them in. I do care about you getting in a pointless dick comparing contest with Koshi and shitting up the thread so I can't get a good lynch off. If you guys are dumb enough to lynch me or Damdred at Lylo, I at least want to flip someone who I think has a good chance for being scum. It's my fucking head on the chopping block (not Damdred's) in a game where I want to remind Rayn how stupid he is for not fucking listening to me. And I need your help because I'm pretty sure you're Town and I know you're a better player than I am. How about reading koshi then because I don't trust anyone to listen after i get nkd. | ||
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On July 17 2017 06:23 Rels wrote: the way he thinks about the game makes me think of last game. Last game he had this idea of scum being in annul => he based all his game view on that. This game he sees you fakeclaiming a check => he's basing his game view on that. He watns to lynch you, and he doesn't understand why you're not voted. If ruxxar is town this guy is definitely mafia though. Completely evades the entire subject of him not believing the check to begin with. | ||
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On July 17 2017 05:45 Holyflare wrote: It's not horrible it's the objective truth. I think you're stuck in a corner and can't play to your self imposed ban because it's evidently not working out for you and so had to start bussing your team mate. You were going to be the lynch today barring the cop claim and all you've really given us is this tw thing which already existed and he was going to get lynched after you. Basically nothing new. On July 17 2017 15:31 Holyflare wrote: You didn't find anything you just requoted what everyone had already said about tw and then effectively had no reads other than x is town, y is mafia. On July 17 2017 15:34 Holyflare wrote: It's also funny because you just call the votes on you/different wagons bad at the same time as calling them potential mafia because you have done absolutely nothing to dig to determine their alignments. What questions have you asked people to gather any information on those votes? None. On July 17 2017 17:23 Holyflare wrote: Maybe not though. We should 1000% be lynching koshi though. You guys just don't know what good mafia players look like when they try a bit. This is below subpar town koshi but he says he's playing well and got obvious mafia from a guy people already were gonna vote after him for reasons already in the thread so he's definitely mafia bussing. I see all the signs. QQ that he's got a really good case, berate people and call them mafia but do nothing about it, make absolutely no other fleshed out reads in the game. Classic scum bus. His tw read is tmi too because it goes from: 1. TW is mafia because he made a read on va that va is excited so he's town and only mafia make absolute reads like that -insert being told he does that as town too- 2. TW is mafia because all he cares about is solving the game as town and he's not doing that here. Then proceeds to link newbie mafia where tw does talk in absolutes such as on page 2-3 where he says grack is town for having a gem of a post but never backs it up. Or where he says bh is town but never ever ever has a valid reason until end game where it's forced out of him. He then uses the above to prove number 2 when instead it just disproves number 1. I don't disagree that tw is probably mafia this game but koshi is bending things to fit. He's trying to complete a jigsaw by ramming corner pieces in the middle. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:34 Koshi wrote: Skynx is by far the best player this game. You know how incongruous this post is? Koshi has previously berated rels for voting on emperorchampion Completely wasted vote as nobody will join Rels ever. Great vote if you are both mafia though. On July 17 2017 03:47 Koshi wrote: TW/Rels/EC/sicklucker Pretty happy with it. But ec is in his mafia list. Now where is skynx's vote? On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Ruxxar Not on the wagon at all either. Koshi even posts this out in his berating of the last 5 votes post. Now skynx is top town for (????) and rels is just mafia with ec even though rels is pointing out inconsistencies on koshi's scum read (ec) and skynx is just voting off ruxxar who koshi doesn't even scum read. | ||
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On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote: I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler + On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote: I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdred rayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler + On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote: Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows. I think rayb is also town. Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote: I think geript is town for these reasons 1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan. Here he's just eh. 2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk. 3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) Town: I bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sicklucker Unreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperor They have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read. And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly. | ||
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On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote: If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote. If only... Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels. | ||
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When Skynx votes for your non-mafia read and rels who you just flat out call mafia for pushing your scum read. You clearly hadn't read skynx's filter at this point and he's voting on ruxxar who you town read but you don't call him mafia. Why do you call rels mafia for doing the same thing when rels is quoting ec posts and voting off wagon but on your mafia read? What's the difference between skynx and rels that makes you scum read someone who is pushing your scum read with 24 hours to go over someone pushing your town read? | ||
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Ec/rels/tw/sl Rels pushes ec and votes ec - he's mafia bussing Skynx pushes ruxxar and votes ruxxar - you don't understand and nothing more Why is rels mafia for pushing someone you think is mafia but skynx is not when he's pushing someone you think is town? What makes rels a more likely bussing attempt when you're qqing about people scum reading you FOR THE EXACT SAME THING. | ||
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On July 17 2017 19:46 Koshi wrote: To other people than HF: Both points 1 and 2 didn't happen. Here you see mafia HF creating a question based on 2 events that didn't even happen. Pretty hilarious. You have a list of people that are mafia: rels/sl/tw/ec. Rels posts his vote and you say his vote is pointless and pretty great if they're mafia together. You haven't bothered to read rels at all and he is one of two/three people pushing ec. You say his vote would be great if they're mafia together implying it's a bus. If you are implying he's town or you don't know then why is his vote pointless if it's on your scum read? A pointless vote means it will achieve nothing but you repeatedly say you have nothing to town read ec about and rels is delving into ec posts. That sounds amazingly like it's a good vote. Tw has one vote and that's you so how is it any different to your vote? The second point is actually correct and my bad, you say you reread skynx filter. But the discrepancy still absolutely stands. Skynx is lynching ruxxar who you town read wheras rels is lynching ec who you scum read. Only one of your quotes was posted with a bussing attempt comment (rels) whereas skynx was just you saying you don't understand. | ||
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I accept your rels answer but still have qualms about skynx since you say it's weird and can't do anything more than point it out but you've just been saying skynx is looking good which is a bit of a weird mismatch. But I'll allow it and let you work. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:13 geript wrote: Like when I claimed mason, Rayn lost his shit. EC is there posting on relatively recent shit and just ignoring commenting on it. Posts this: Like you either think I'm scum and fake claiming or I'm blue. There's literally no in between ground. I'm obviously claiming confirmed Town mason with Damdred and he's obvious explaining sitting on his vote. When I ping him on it: He's obviously aware of the claim. Then fully accepts it. Like if you think Damdred and I are good people to look into, then flat out accept the claim it's pretty odd. On top of it, he's had Skynx in his lynch list throughout. If I have 2 confirmed Town pushing a lynch on a guy I find scummy, I'm pretty likely to sheep their vote. It's weird to need much more to push off from one mediocre lynch to another. It's weird to be getting cold feet about a lynch, be okay with the opposite wagon led by confirmed Town and not jump ship. It's just a whole mess of unusual all around. | ||
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On July 17 2017 20:43 emperorchampion wrote: Like this here is empirical evidence that it's not that odd. Nobody really accepted it? | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:50 emperorchampion wrote: Ok cool, two names to scratch off my list This is the order though so what EC is saying makes sense. | ||
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On July 16 2017 06:11 Skynx wrote: Cop and mason can exist at the same time imo, not ready to unclear damdy and geript altho they have been real bad. Could be tmi tbh | ||
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On July 17 2017 20:59 emperorchampion wrote: How though, mafia don't know the setup either. Because to mafia the millers are legit and I'm town so it has to be a legit setup to them or me fake claiming. Which is why ruxxar is suspicious and also why that post is suspicious. | ||
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On July 18 2017 01:30 Tumblewood wrote: strange for a guy like you with no town cred and a bullshit case Why is his case bull shit though? | ||
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On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote: Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it Explain this please | ||
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Is this all you're going to do? Why am I mafia? | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:08 Tumblewood wrote: imma have to flip and say ec is lynchbait here I endorse this read wholeheartedly. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:28 sicklucker wrote: I said already but I absolutely believed him. he recently went on a tirade against me about how I didnt claim with a red check and was awful and here he claims with a red check. Of course I didnt even have a red check but thats another story That was totes the plan yo. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:28 Vivax wrote: I'm just tempted to sheep dead rayn onto emc along with geript for now since I still miss more than half of the game. Anyway, off to delve while I vote emc. Perhaps just finish reading the game. The skynx case that rayn sheeped is already provably false iirc. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:34 sicklucker wrote: he literally called you mafia 3 posts before he died.... you were his strongest mafia read wtf Because of the skynx case you tit. | ||
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On July 16 2017 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: What i mean is what Koshi said is a 100% wrong conclusion, he was talking about TMI and that you didnt have that, when HF was arguing the opposite. We all know if you had TMI or not, so you cannot ever call that read townie. Maybe nai but never townie... On July 16 2017 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: As it makes 100% sense as mafia to know or "come to a conclusion" that you dont have TMI since townies usually don't. On July 16 2017 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I already talked about this, ruxxar did nothing with his super scumread on Koshi. I don't see why they cant be mafia together. Just wanna paste this here about koshi. When damdred made his geript read I called it tmi and damd is mafia because he usually doesn't make those reads. Koshi comes and says it makes damd town because it's totally a towny read progression which was bull shit because he had tmi. This was koshi displaying perfect information in the thread. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:37 sicklucker wrote: If someone backs off from a case that does not mean the case he said was good is invalid to him. w/e not important The guy backed off from his casw because his whole argument was about timestamps and it got proven false. Rayn died before this was proven. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:38 sicklucker wrote: guys the hosts are telling us not to vote koshi. what does this mean! dundundun mind games Mafia has a vote rigger. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:39 emperorchampion wrote: I'm willing to admit that rels could be town, but it's hella hard to see through some of the shit you're trying to push. What has changed since you just posted all the reasons for him to be mafia? | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:41 sicklucker wrote: hahaha. but hes been so nice to me lately =[ He scum reads you though so it's the perfect reason to further your agenda. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:45 Rels wrote: I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum. Ec isn't scum either. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:54 Rels wrote: Disagree. I agree with him on TW. I got angry when he was talking to you and it seemed real. And I liked his post on votes - seems like he was thinking about the game as a whole. all trash non game content posts?????????????? his tw read is entirely meta his read on you and skynx is wildly inconsistent and doesn't match up at all his post on votes is nonsense and not related to anybody's content the entire game, where was he pushing ANY of these people that he was complaining about? did he once call someone mafia from any of those votes? | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:01 Holyflare wrote: all trash non game content posts?????????????? his tw read is entirely meta his read on you and skynx is wildly inconsistent and doesn't match up at all his post on votes is nonsense and not related to anybody's content the entire game, where was he pushing ANY of these people that he was complaining about? did he once call someone mafia from any of those votes? let me just clarify this, it's not even a fucking read it's just him whining about votes doing nothing at all | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:54 Rels wrote: Disagree. I agree with him on TW. I got angry when he was talking to you and it seemed real. And I liked his post on votes - seems like he was thinking about the game as a whole. let me just restate in case people missed it his tw meta was fabricated bull shit, just like his va one where he didn't even know what the meta was but STILL voted for va when it was proven his meta was bull shit he rejigged the read to be something else comparable and it doesn't make sense | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:18 Koshi wrote: HF showing face like there is no tomorrow. I don't wear a mask. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:26 Koshi wrote: Come on... Really? You think that after 24 hours me pushing TW NOW SUDDENLY everybody is going to vote TW? I tried for fucking 24 hours......... Come the fuck on Damdred. your tw push is meek as fuck dude what shit are you smoking? | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:27 Koshi wrote: You don't even care the 3 confirmed town are on EC and you are voting with TW. You're right, I really don't ![]() | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:30 geript wrote: Right because the 2 hours I spen readin your post, reading his filter, finding the comments in context were totally continuing my EC read. you missed what I wrote and quoted an old post and I was disappointed but I didn't want to write it to disappoint you | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:34 geript wrote: Then fucking bring it back up? Is it the thing about the votes and calling people shit? can't be bothered, lynch tw | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:48 emperorchampion wrote: Fuck it I'm voting ruxxar confirming yourself mafia with tw here | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:55 Tumblewood wrote: i seriously don't know what you want me to do. you just lynch me every fucking game for stupid shit I mean I haven't read your filter so that's my bad I guess? But you clearly didn't put in enough work to not be lynched so that's on you. | ||
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On July 18 2017 06:58 sicklucker wrote: i dont think tumble is mafia his reaction was so good. probably ec koshi you said it before his reaction was good | ||
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On July 18 2017 06:35 Koshi wrote: Also pondering if this is mafia!HF pointing out mafia!sl because I have no clue why sl would be mafia for the Ruxxar lynch and HF feels no need to inform the thread. You're so full of shit and there's no way you're town. I just tried to get your mafia target lynched and you don't even update your reads. | ||
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On July 18 2017 08:15 Koshi wrote: And sicklucker was also voting me a while. HOLY FUCK I didn't even notice this till now. 4 remaining mafia candidates on me. I literally just called this out. Soooo full of crap. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:30 Holyflare wrote: let's lynch tw then? On July 18 2017 05:31 sicklucker wrote: hell ya On July 18 2017 05:41 Rels wrote: both EC and TW are good lynches. ^ never ever joins tw lynch even though hard town reads ruxxar On July 18 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote: LETS KILL RUXXARRRRR 0.o Randomly says we should lynch ruxxar BEFORE TW HAS EVEN POSTED HIS BS QQ. | ||
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On July 18 2017 07:03 sicklucker wrote: I said what? I would have voted ruxxar regardless of tumbles reaction. but because of tumbles good reaction I actively tried to get dandred to move which he did I misread that which is why I initially scum read you. Thought it said you switched because of his reaction instead of making other people switch because of it. But STILL that means you actively tried to sabotage the tw wagon before his towny outburst, the wagon that would have given us the MOST information possible. Why did you even switch? What possible reason was there to lynch ruxxar over tw right at deadline when nothing had changed? | ||
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On July 17 2017 06:29 beentheredonethat wrote: D2: Vote Count #3
Non-voters (1) - Vivax Someone, apparently Rels, is about to leave us in (at Monday, Jul 17 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Voting is mandatory! These are the votes just before skynx decides it's far better to vote ruxxar than anyone else. Let's just remind ourselves that skynx reads these guys: On July 17 2017 22:59 Skynx wrote: I'm going out now, not gona be around EoD. Lynching any of Koshi/TW/Rux is fine, im staying on rux just in case you guys wanna switch later on. If anyone gets lynched i will be very upset tomorrow. Happy hunting. As mafia. So why does he vote ruxxar afk off any wagon instead of rels or koshi or tw? Even says koshi is bussing tw but won't put his money where his mouth is. On July 15 2017 06:02 beentheredonethat wrote: D1: Final Vote Count
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On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote: maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator Rels was also completely shitting all over tw at deadline AND STILL DIDN'T VOTE HIM. | ||
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On July 18 2017 04:45 Rels wrote: I'm not, it's the lynch I want. I would lynch TW over Koshi if it's between these two, but I don't think Koshi is scum. On July 18 2017 05:49 Rels wrote: like, means he was probably monitering the thread. Percentage of chance is higher than just coincidence On July 18 2017 06:10 Rels wrote: maybe. Dunno. Will have to check meta to see if he can do it. But the fact that he showed up 15 min before deadline only after becoming the main wagon is a great scum indicator On July 18 2017 06:17 Rels wrote: lol you can explain it all you want, I can verify your IRL story. I can only remark that you were not there the period before EOD, but showed up just before deadline when you became the main wagon On July 18 2017 06:23 Rels wrote: no. The leap of faith is believing that it was a coincidence you came back just after becoming the main wagon. The simple explanation is taht you came back BECAUSE you became the main wagon. Even says he would lynch tw over Koshi because he thinks koshi is town which implies he votes to save town reads. So WHERE was he when ruxxar, the guy he was hard defending all day, was up for lynch??? Burying tw without actually voting him and afking on ec, that's where. | ||
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On July 17 2017 00:26 Rels wrote: SL IDK at all. ruxxar's rest of filter was super natural, I thought I had something with the way he was treating EC weirdly then all of sudden he townreads him. I think he even lock townread him. I was thinking I had something linkling ruxxar and EC together but the lock townread doesn't make sense in that case. I think he's town On July 17 2017 06:23 Rels wrote: the way he thinks about the game makes me think of last game. Last game he had this idea of scum being in annul => he based all his game view on that. This game he sees you fakeclaiming a check => he's basing his game view on that. He watns to lynch you, and he doesn't understand why you're not voted. Way more town to him than koshi. 0 vote saving. | ||
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On July 18 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote: The bolded in particular can be a pretty good point, fairly early on too. The rest is garbage. I'm a little biased on koshi since his stance on me is super bad, but he could be better than I thought. That's exactly what I don't like about koshi. It's not "weird" it's scummy but all he does is point it out twice and then counteract that by saying how good skynx is looking straight after. There's no push behind it at all. No emotion. | ||
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On July 18 2017 19:31 Koshi wrote: Rels why didnt you vite TW?? Also electricity just went out here lol Is this the best question you can ask? Literally just restating everything I've said. | ||
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On July 18 2017 20:36 Koshi wrote: Because you are overdramatizing details and attacking everything you can attack. Rels tried to vote TW but failed at deadline. The point you make is good in itself and I want to hear an answer. But I am not going to create another 7 pages on how it makes Rels 100% mafia. It's not like he didn't sit on a wagon he didn't think was mafia. And he was attacking TW during the entire EoD. Sat on a wagon that was never going to be lynched for reasons that were bad and never voted a person that actually was a wagon that he even scum read that he was attacking for at least 15 minutes for bull shit reasons and then decides to maybe vote him at deadline just a little too late. Yeh that's believable town play. | ||
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On July 18 2017 21:40 emperorchampion wrote: Yeah it's possible. HF do you think there's always 1 scum in tumble/koshi? Not particularly always. But likely. | ||
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On June 04 2017 09:55 Tumblewood wrote: been reading through bh's meta. scratch what I said about him, he's town On June 04 2017 10:13 Tumblewood wrote: i read through bh's past games. his filter resembles the ones where he is town and not the ones where he is scum On June 04 2017 09:04 Tumblewood wrote: specifically I mean grack is probably town. every game I see grack getting scumread by other townies but never really pushed, but he always comes through with the sort of analysis that's right on the money once or twice On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote: lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited | ||
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can you chat more shit this is literally in page 1 and 2 of his filter of that newbie game THAT I WAS IN so you're pushing false mafia agenda because your meta is trash, they look exactly like that VA post and now VA is dead so he doesn't have time to analyse VA again so your points are bs he could still be mafia but don't act like it's because of this god mafia agenda you're pushing because it's wrong and bad 2/3 better points and that's all you really have on him tbh | ||
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On July 19 2017 05:42 Skynx wrote: Then why is Koshi so mad lol? My reading comprehension might be damaged. cos his meta was wrong so he uses other posts to call him mafia lol | ||
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On July 19 2017 05:45 Rels wrote: dunno why you're pushing this when ITS IN THE VOTING THREAD THAT I TRIED TO VOTE HIM i only count relevant votes in vote counts | ||
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On July 19 2017 06:23 Rels wrote: YOu're the one with HF saying it doesnt make sense that I didnt vote TW over ruxxar WHEN I TRIED TO DO IT 15 minutes to go, "TW is definitely mafia cos conveniently appears" SL: "Let's switch to ruxxar" TW: "I was just appearing at deadline cos it's deadline" Rels; "Nah it makes you mafia" ---- 5 minutes to go ---- Masons: "Let's switch to ruxxar with sl!" Rels: "Lol you're still mafia tw!" ---- deadline ---- rels votes TW ????????????????????? it's like you didn't even give a shit about lynching someone you thought about mafia, you were more interested in arguing with tw why him appearing made him mafia arguing with mafia instead of voting mafia | ||
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there is nothing in this game that can change my mind, he was the only one here at night time trying to dive filters and point things out when nobody else was doing anything else nothing can sway me | ||
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On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote: I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm. TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him. His read came down to this: On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote: well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated. Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow. Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time. I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet. This is a mafia post, it has to be. The bolded shows that his current scum team is Koshi/emc and one of rels or skynx but when he has to explain them he says EC has a semi helpful entrance and absolutely nothing more about it which doesn't look like a reason to scum read anyone in the slightest, let alone have him second in his mafia list. Then I have a massive problem with the fact that this post is about his scum reads but then 90% of it is devoted to his read about tumblewood. Then I even have a problem with a read. He's clearly a town read because of him not appearing in Vivax's scum list but then why is 50% of the read devoted to shitting all over his town read with "Oh maybe he's not town because of this one quote". It doesn't really fit. The green and the red show you the divide that he spends talking about how TW is town (green) and how TW is showing mafia traits (red). More red than green. THEN he ends it with "Despite the TMI thing he's got good vibes"???? It's so fucking backwards. If it's good vibes why bother writing about it???? Then he's not caught up with the game and his vote was on EC last night because he was sheeping Rayn. Vivax is caught up with "The end and beginning of the game" but doesn't even realise that we've been telling him repeatedly the Skynx/rayn thing is false and his only reason for EC is "Emc had a semi helpful entrance." So why the fuck is he a scum read if that's all he's got on him? He doesn't even reference the rayn/skynx thing here. Furthermore, he hasn't even equated that Skynx made the case on EC but now he thinks both EC and Skynx are mafia. No critical thinking. Don't even get me started on his rels read. Absolutely 0 said about it. ##vote vivax Time to get to work Vivax. I am disgusted by Rsoultin's mafia play. | ||
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you're saying it's so bad mafia wouldn't make a post like that? | ||
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Two of those you hated because it wanted to lynch you based on incorrect information and dead rayn's outdated read. Another one of those is the post I quoted above. All of his filter is complete irrelevant trash that YOU hated. Now you want to lynch SL/Rels/anyone not vivax. I don't buy it. Vivax is a good player, he doesn't make these posts and he especially does absolutely no interacting with anyone. | ||
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These people look like town to me, but aren't quite locked: [...] Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod You even read Tumblewood town but now you're using Rels' deadline action and SL's actions to divert from TW to Ruxxar as scummy when you don't even scum read Tumblewood. You read him town because of towny reaction at deadline which SL also did AND diverted it because of those reasons. So why do you want to lynch SL when he's doing the exact things you're thinking? The caveat is that SL scum read Ruxxar so it's not even that bad. | ||
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On July 18 2017 17:50 emperorchampion wrote: It's a pretty shitty subject to talk about, but I was thinking that if rsoul was scum, she might have felt bad getting "town confirmed" off of her attitude. I don't think it's that likely tbh, but honestly what vivax did last night in combination for not posting for 72 hours is possibly the scummiest thing I have ever seen in mafia. wtf zone Vivax: this is some bullshit. Still bullshit that it's pretty much 50/50 based on other stuff with rsoul's spot. Strongly starting to suspect that he replaced into a red spot and didn't want to put any effort in. On July 19 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote: Vivax: why scum read on me, and you think I'm trying to bus koshi since day 1? On July 19 2017 05:17 emperorchampion wrote: Vivax: after 100+ pages you're scum reading both koshi and I based on our entry post? On July 18 2017 05:18 emperorchampion wrote: If vivax is actually scum jesus h christ On July 18 2017 05:18 emperorchampion wrote: Looking highly likely at this point On July 18 2017 05:27 emperorchampion wrote: How can you in good faith vote with vivax Look at his last posts On July 18 2017 05:29 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi vivax and ruxx most likely this is bull shit EC, you have been saying vivax is scummy forever and suddenly his posts are too scumy to be scum and give him some time to respond?????? How long? 1000 hours? | ||
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On July 20 2017 02:49 emperorchampion wrote: I recall these being separate occasions. Probably the last two nights. You trying to get a reaction out of tumble, getting one, the forgetting it is incredibly suspicious to me. It looks like you didn't care at all. Getting the reaction, then forgetting about it goes exactly against your reason for holding the vote. This is why I don't believe you on either point. Holding your vote from your team mate and then once the pressure is off is entirely what scum would do. What any self respecting scum player would do in this situation is jump onto the wagon for extra credit or divert the lynch as hard as they can rels did neither | ||
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no he didn't at all, I don't think mafia rels plays that unbelievably sloppy that he doesn't get credit, he's not a bad player mafia don't make plans like this with 10 minutes to go lol | ||
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On July 20 2017 02:55 emperorchampion wrote: If rels and tumble are a scum team, do their actions make sense together? no :D aka rels is not likely mafia because of his deadline actions | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:00 emperorchampion wrote: I can vote him now to make you happy, maybe he'll be motivated to post something. But at the end of the day we flip either rels or tumble. yeah that's really gonna put all the pressure on him | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:12 Rels wrote: But he didn't ? It's during the first 24 hours of the game. Why are you saying Koshi knew Damdred was mason ? he's saying that Koshi knows Damdred is town and has tmi so koshi made that read to fit that | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote: What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town? his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D: | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:14 Rels wrote: Then what does this sentence mean ? "I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons. " that damdred's read was bs because he knew geript was town | ||
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Damdred is probably mafia because he usually gives basic gut/tone reads at the beginning of the game so the fact he has multiple reasons to hardcore town read geript is scummy koshi's is the complete opposite because he knew they were both town and made it so the read would fit my read was the correct meta whereas koshi was probably bs tmi | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote: Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed. When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing. no it's not coincidental in the slightest because: 1. Your TW read ALSO was updated to be that he was town because of tone etc at deadline: Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod 2. Confirmed town also saved Tumblewood, who you town read AT THE SAME TIME AS THEM. 3. Rels looked awful from not placing his vote at the time. Mafia don't want to look awful. 4. Like I said before, mafia don't make these plans you're talking about. 5. SL pushed someone he thought was mafia over someone he said started looking towny, which you yourself thought too (tw looked towny), so SL is not mafia because he started pushing his mafia read (like last game ![]() If confirmed town damdred/geript(at some point) could vote off TW and you said he was looking towny it's not a big stretch in the slightest that they could be town too. You have just started a narrative. You also arbitrarily have made Tumblewood mafia again FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than people saving him. This only makes sense in the world where you have to rewrite history. You town read TW at that same time, just like those people, you can't erase this and rewrite the narrative. | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote: well this is holyf***e mafia all over again. but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town. what's this supposed to mean? | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:34 Vivax wrote: I don't feel that strongly about emc mafia after reading a bit of his filter. There was one thing I didn't like in particular but the bigger picture suggests town to me atm. I think mafia can be anywhere in HF/Koshi/TW/Rels/Skynx atm. And I think Koshi is the best shot for today literally just for D1 with his minion stuff and followup lacking koshi passion even though in his later posts he starts putting in more effort. I made a mistake replacing into the game cause I have things going on more important than mafia atm and I overestimated my will to catch up in the little time I'm not doing something else. then why the fuck did you vote ec yesterday? | ||
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If you can read TW town then so can other people. It doesn't have to miraculously be a mafia ploy. Now you're saying they're all town reading each other like it's some mega scheme but I also started town reading rels and sl and possibly but probably not TW and I'm not mafia so it doesn't make them mafia either. | ||
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On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote: 1. I can understand the reasons that the tumble related things don't make sense. To me my read was based on tone, but the way things look now it's bad to me. If you want other reasons to think he's scum you can look up koshi's case. 2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that. 3. It doesn't have to be a "plan" , sl just comes in and tries to get the vote off of tumble because he's a teammate This is also hilarious. Koshi I stated some reasons for night 1. His day 1 could be trying to do this low post thing, but failing as mafia. The reads thing with damdred could be pretty weak, but it's still there. Otherwise his progression through the day was hella weird, I'm town, then maybe not, now scum. Yeah I should've looked more into this earlier. To be fair to myself I said beforehand I wasn't really gonna do much today. There are many other inconsistencies that hf pointed out with respect to the tumble meta thing. | ||
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"rsoul is town now lol" "if vivax is mafia I'm great" | ||
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On July 19 2017 08:54 Tumblewood wrote: skynx, vivax, sl, and rels are all realistic 2nd/3rd scummers, in roughly that order. everyone else i am 90% sure i can write off. and if koshi is town i might as well give up On July 20 2017 03:21 Tumblewood wrote: whoa vivax has only 4 posts? On July 20 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote: well this is holyf***e mafia all over again. but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town. On July 20 2017 03:38 Tumblewood wrote: in that game, vivax replaced in for superbia d3, made a couple WoT catching-up posts, and then hardly interacted with the game afterwards. a little more active than this game but not by much. On July 20 2017 13:36 Tumblewood wrote: ##vote koshi Why are you voting off wagon with your scum read then? | ||
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On July 20 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote: I like your effort Rels. Shame you're voting the inferior wagon | ||
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On July 21 2017 00:05 Skynx wrote: Can you fucking make up your mind??? Why Vivax over all these? He's essentially a coinflip. How the fuck is he a coin flip at all? Have you been reading my posts about him? Also all the posts you quote are just me being emotional at the time because of fuckwittery. Koshi is still probably mafia. | ||
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SL sheeps a read d1 - towny SL has actual reasons to scum read ruxxar that he's different from last game and has opposite reads this game - towny Trying to solidify emperor being mafia with rayn sr on him which was based on wrong reasons: + Show Spoiler + Rayn thought that was right which I thought the same but those were post EoD, significantly harming the value of my case. I think sl says this before Rels points out my mistake but i cba looking, he's just trying too hard to create reasons here imo. apparently this makes SL scum but then when vivax does the identical thing with 4 posts in 144 hours he's just a coin flip Koshi main wagon. He has no opinion. "I don't think Koshi fought hard enough to be town" IS A SCUM READ Then back on Ruxxar. Easiest mislynch ever. This is not a towny vote pattern guys. You say he joins TW as scummy but then when TW starts posting towny things he switches to his top scum read, why is this scummy? | ||
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On July 21 2017 00:42 emperorchampion wrote: Ugh if we get end gamed with extra kp I'm gonna be hella salty, but yeah vivax needs to go. If not now, it's gonna have to happen at some point. why do you keep mentioning extra kp?? why would they not use it n1 when they know there's already masons and likely nothing else!? | ||
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On July 21 2017 00:44 Skynx wrote: Cool, game is over. How can you use the quote that SL scum reads EC because of rayn as mafia agenda but then not do the same for vivax? | ||
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Vivax - does something you scum read SL for - coin flip SL - does something you coin flip read vivax for If Vivax can be a coin flip then there's a chance he's town to you. This means that townies are capable of doing the same thing that you're saying SL is scum for. The rest of your post is just saying he's scum for pushing his ruxxar lynch at deadline. Like last game, SL pushed a lynch and I called it scummy but SL pushing a lynch isn't usual for him and the one time he's done it he's been town. | ||
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You scum read sl for pushing EC with your case. You don't scum read Vivax for pushing EC with your case despite that being 50% of his posts. Now you're telling me you are going to ignore SL's general town play just because for other people in the world of mafia it applies to them. Ok skynx. | ||
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The majority of people in this game were in the last game so I don't think your case is really going to convince anyone otherwise. | ||
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That's if he was a coin flip but he's not, he's just mafia. | ||
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A) He's extremely likely to flip mafia even if you say he's a coin flip. B) Getting rid of a coin flip now is 100000x better than having to decide at lylo. C) You are not getting traction on your SL case. You have voted off wagon for basically every cycle. This is increasingly likely you're mafia because you don't want to be involved in absolutely any of the main wagons this game. Here you are again making up some case that enables you to be off wagon. You won't even vote with the wagon because you're likely mafia trying to avoid suspicion/avoid lynching your team mates. Today is the day that you play with the town Skynx. We can only vote Vivax today. | ||
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On July 21 2017 00:46 Tumblewood wrote: active, engaged, thoughtful, good, etc i could maybe get what you're saying if you compared it to generic 1 or something, but in lxxv i was super lazy even for a scum. like, look at how many of those posts quote something versus this game On July 18 2017 05:59 Holyflare wrote: tw is 2% of the thread activity compared to 6.2% as town doctor and 0.8% as mafia verging on mafia % here, think you'd be more active as a town than when you blue too Still around 2-3%. | ||
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See geript d1. See Ruxxar yesterday. | ||
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On July 21 2017 02:32 Tumblewood wrote: i am never a high-post player, which doesn't mean i'm not active or forceful. filter length is a silly thing to read someone on unless they're gumshoe, especially if you only compare 3 games Post count is usually an indicator of activity. If 0.8% is you being inactive and sidelines then 2% isn't that much more and hardly enough to call you "active". But I digress, not a reason to call you mafia atm. | ||
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Another lazy reason to scumread someone. He just looks tryhard with this, emp felt genuine at the time even tho i was scumreading him aswell. Can you tell me, Skynx, how this makes any sense? How can someone feel "genuine" but be mafia at the same time? And then why, again, is that scummy for sl to push his inconsistency? | ||
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On July 21 2017 02:28 Skynx wrote: Did you guys read like just 1 sentence of the case or what? That doesn't make him scum on its own. Why didn't he vote emp or Koshi, why he voted TW and then why he ended up on Rux. That makes him scum. I will await his answer on this. | ||
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On July 21 2017 02:14 Skynx wrote: geript I would've switched if i was there at claim. When I voted rayn, emp and some others were sr'ing him already. That was the point of my vote yesterday, to provide a counter wagon option in case ppl wanna switch. Ruxxar wasn't a bad lynch. Its not like I'm trying someone completely irrelevant on EoD's. Like that me 'trying to divert town from the wagon' thing doesn't exist. You repeatedly said Koshi was bussing and that his reasons were subpar and he wasn't pushing things like normal. TW was also your scum read. Rels null read. Emperorchampion scum read These four(!!) players were other wagons in the game that had the possibility of being lynched since they had votes on them. Why did you not vote with town on any of them and instead go off on your own on ruxxar and start a whole new wagon?? I think your "I wanted to enable shenanigans" excuse is bs since 3/4 of your scum reads/scummy people were up for lynch before ruxxar. | ||
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On July 17 2017 06:29 beentheredonethat wrote: D2: Vote Count #3
Non-voters (1) - Vivax Someone, apparently Rels, is about to leave us in (at Monday, Jul 17 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Voting is mandatory! On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Ruxxar This was the vote count beforehand for reference. | ||
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On July 26 2017 16:57 sicklucker wrote: I dont know why both hosts thought we thought ryan was the cop. we killed him because hes rayn I roleblocked hf every night even before his claim They said you thought I was the cop. | ||
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That's like 2 extra nights really towny talkative people can live. Which is never a good thing for mafia strategy. Then there's also a parity cop that has - 2 people in his pool of people to check so that's 10 people to check between which really isn't difficult to find 3 mafia. The masons also mean the parity cop gets his checks off regardless. | ||
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On July 26 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are right Holyflare. But you are also wrong because there are certain things like race, gender, sexuality and disability that should all be off limits and not just heavily modded. I mean this was not an instance where someone gets mad at some other person and calls them names. Emotions kind of belong to the mafia game (or those things happen), but this was really not it. I don't see at any part where any of those things legitimately came into play this game other than Ruxxar's comment, maybe SL. While I do agree that all of those things are bad - and I'm not disputing Rsoultin felt bad - I don't agree with her on 90% of the things she linked as inflammatory sexist remarks. I spent the entire game just thinking it was bull shit mafia overblown nonsense because we are in a mafia game and there was no mod action and half of it wasn't even bad looking and so took the piss. If you want people to stop doing something then involve independent third parties. Maybe I'm more militant in my views against things like this and I'm in the wrong compared to 99% of people but I will simply not believe anything people say in this game. | ||
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On July 26 2017 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah but you will never know what personal "insult" hits a person in their hard place. I bet i for example could make you feel the same if i just knew what to say (and vice versa). Some people don't think it is a big deal, others might, that's the point. For example if i was gay and you told me "you're just not making any sense because you're gay" repeatedly it is not okay, and i might take offense in it while for you it might not seem like a big deal. And it has nothing to do with a mafia game in the first place. But nobody in this game said anything like this in the slightest. Only Ruxxar's comment alluded that rsoultin was acting a way because of something female. Which is why the whole ruse looked farcical to me. | ||
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On July 26 2017 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: It doesn't matter if someone did or didn't. The fact that someone thinks people did is imo enough. Unless it's completely bullshit which it isn't because at least i can see why she thinks so. And none of the people here meant it to be inflammatory. None of the people here did it to make rsoultin feel bad. In my view 90% of the things quoted were gender neutral, non-sexist remarks and certainly didn't state she was acting a way because of her gender. So when two differing opinions clash in a mafia game and on one side you have someone thinking it's a mafia plan and on the other side you have someone annoyed and angry legitimately or not then how does one proceed? Get mod support instead of writing it in the thread. The more you write that has nothing to do with mafia the more the other person is going to press you on producing stuff and the more annoyed you will get. Mod action ends it immediately. | ||
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On July 26 2017 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: It doesn't matter if someone did or didn't. The fact that someone thinks people did is imo enough. Unless it's completely bullshit which it isn't because at least i can see why she thinks so. I mean you did so too, even if you didn't mean it. Or at least a couple of posts you made look veeeery much like it. I am very very much of the view that humorous remarks transcend pc culture and can be joked about. Please, I legit want to talk about my posts and what you found sexist in them because I want to air these things out so I can either learn or do whatever with it. | ||
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Rsoul the last time I played with her is a bite-y aggressive mafia player. This game she was overboard buddy posting all squiggles and hearts. Adding feminine as a descriptor for lots of hearts and squiggles I guess is inherently sexist due to being gendered but it in no way implies she is doing these things because she is female. Quite the contrary, I call her mafia for the buddy hearts. Since I haven't played with her since she got in a relationship with artanis this is simply a stark contrast to aggressive rsoultin of any alignment. Nothing to do with being female and so simple correlation and causation comes into effect and she's gone soft. If someone said to me I got more love-y dovey and complacent after being in a relationship I'd be like, "ok that's an observation." Where does gender come into it? | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 26 2017 23:08 geript wrote: This I think is a fine observation; I think it hits on whatever it was that I couldn't pick up on why I didn't like her early on. But it's not how it came across in game imo. To me, it came across as more "she's acting like more of a girl now;" which I think is why I didn't really follow up on or think about those comments seriously. And this is where I think all the signals were mixed. I was simply making mafia observations (with sexist descriptors I guess?) whereas other people read the context differently. I get it. And the problem is I know all of you off of the mafia game but clearly not enough that you know me as a person and what I'm like. I'm all about the inflammatory boundary pushing and trolling to make people laugh for sensitive topics and that doesn't translate well to a forum where you can't hear cadence and tone. | ||
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On July 27 2017 02:00 ruXxar wrote: Your reads were all over the place. I felt like at some point you had called everyone town and scum. Basically it looks like you're doing something when you're not. Flailing your arms around and puffing your chest, but ultimately there's no dedication or commitment. In my eyes that's quite scummy. It's almost like reads update with new information! :O Yeah, I probably did call everyone town and mafia at some point but were my reasonings wrong for that? Did I push that read forever and use it to mislynch townies or did I probe and try and change my read multiple times? | ||
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On July 27 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote: Sure, but when people flip their reads from town to scum to town as quick as the bat of an eye, it doesn't feel like their reads carry any weight. This generates the feeling of light town/scum lean hedging where you always leave yourself an escape route as scum. Which is the complete opposite of my mafia meta of hounding people till they get lynched :D | ||
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On July 13 2017 07:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk but geript seems like he WANTS holyflare to be town instead of wanting to figure out if he is town or not. But ruxxar doesnt even want to figure out what you are after finding something "super good". Within 2 fucking posts too!! He didn't even get asked for the read. No force. No anger. | ||
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