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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:36 GMT
#1421
On July 15 2017 22:31 Skynx wrote:
Tomorrow's lynch should be TW, his vote is by far the worst.

This is all he had to say about VA:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited


At the same time he's scumreading geript, stating his case on me is contradicting itself:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 03:23 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:
Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx:

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.

I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.

Anyway thats not the main point:

If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.

On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??

rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.

Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point?

The real kicker is here:
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.

I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
[...]
I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".

On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it?

Good point.


On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this:
You have three options:

1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally.

2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times.

3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!




Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry.

+ Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +
and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.

I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

TLDR
1. Skynx downplays his own post
2. Skynx picks at trivial things
3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn
4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has

are the people attacking geript already all over this? cause if not i'm boutta write a sick case. cause point 1 directly contradicts point 4


But that's it, votes geript and pushes nothing more about it while his two townreads lead the vagon. On EoD, he switches me last min and;

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
if i'm correct geript, ec, and damdred are masons?
don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx

This is just a typical scum move when both wagons are town. His two page filter is shit in terms of opinion regarding me and VA. Can't stay on geript cuz he claimed so makes a pointless vote on losing wagon, trying to present it like it was saving a town.

i agree tumblewood can very well be mafia
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:37 GMT
#1422
On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.


So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 15 2017 13:39 GMT
#1423
Eh, i don't want to lose the game but it's not a b.s. deal per se...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 15 2017 13:40 GMT
#1424
B's should be bad
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:41 GMT
#1425
On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.


So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?

the dude is insane. he even believed sicklucker's cop claim last game when he said he has a check N0 (there's never a role that can chack people on N0 in TL Mafia).

But this is probably him just being mafia trying to imitate his insane shit since every single piece of logic tells those two guys are actually masons. If they are lying they just outed 2 people of their mafia team to try to either lynch their scumbuddy Skynx or try to save town!VA to try to lynch town!Skynx, and neither makes zero sense at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:42 GMT
#1426
On July 15 2017 22:39 Damdred wrote:
Eh, i don't want to lose the game but it's not a b.s. deal per se...

deal it is then.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:44 GMT
#1427
On July 15 2017 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.


So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?

the dude is insane. he even believed sicklucker's cop claim last game when he said he has a check N0 (there's never a role that can chack people on N0 in TL Mafia).

But this is probably him just being mafia trying to imitate his insane shit since every single piece of logic tells those two guys are actually masons. If they are lying they just outed 2 people of their mafia team to try to either lynch their scumbuddy Skynx or try to save town!VA to try to lynch town!Skynx, and neither makes zero sense at all.


What do you think of the 100% town lock between rux and tumble? Seems super weird for both alignments to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:46 GMT
#1428
I am pretty sure you realize where i am going with this Damdred, but i'll say it anyways. Normally masons do make the two of them basically three townies (+ the confirmed status), but in this game i feel like you being masons with geript makes you two basically 2x geript, and (no offence to geript in any way) i like having Damdred + geript more than 2x geript, hell in this game i would like to have 1x Damdred more than 2x geript.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:47 GMT
#1429
On July 15 2017 22:44 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.


So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?

the dude is insane. he even believed sicklucker's cop claim last game when he said he has a check N0 (there's never a role that can chack people on N0 in TL Mafia).

But this is probably him just being mafia trying to imitate his insane shit since every single piece of logic tells those two guys are actually masons. If they are lying they just outed 2 people of their mafia team to try to either lynch their scumbuddy Skynx or try to save town!VA to try to lynch town!Skynx, and neither makes zero sense at all.


What do you think of the 100% town lock between rux and tumble? Seems super weird for both alignments to me.

i dont really think it makes either of them anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:48 GMT
#1430
well basically what you said :p
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:52 GMT
#1431
Hmm I want tumble to talk about his read on rux
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:53 GMT
#1432
Also not 100% sold on rux's read on me. Said it was just for being honest and open, but I hope that I've done more than just be honest this game lol. Like there must be something else in there to town read me for.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 15 2017 13:55 GMT
#1433
lol I just remembered all that jazz about "geript is my boy, never lynching him" with no reason from Damdy. I guess I was just wrong.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:57 GMT
#1434
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia?
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 15 2017 13:59 GMT
#1435
On July 15 2017 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:39 Damdred wrote:
Eh, i don't want to lose the game but it's not a b.s. deal per se...

deal it is then.

So if we choose to lynch you? Like that's an obviously bad deal Damdred.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2017 14:02 GMT
#1436
On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.


So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?


Why should I believe it?
I don't see any reason to.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 14:04 GMT
#1437
On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.


So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?


Why should I believe it?
I don't see any reason to.


Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town?
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2017 14:06 GMT
#1438
On July 15 2017 22:53 emperorchampion wrote:
Also not 100% sold on rux's read on me. Said it was just for being honest and open, but I hope that I've done more than just be honest this game lol. Like there must be something else in there to town read me for.


Your dialogue is free flowing and unfiltered.

You're not guarding your thoughts or being careful in what you say.

I don't know how better to put it, but in my heart I strongly believe you are town.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 15 2017 14:06 GMT
#1439
On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia?

They are both mafia.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 15 2017 14:07 GMT
#1440
The funny thing about Ruxxar is that he almost should be Town for his absolutely ridiculous stance. It's just so dumb. But then mafia do shit like that from time to time.
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