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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 12:56 GMT
#1401
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.


meh, I dunno it's not a strong argument. skynx needs to do something.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 12:56 GMT
#1402
On July 15 2017 21:55 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Before the night ends i really want to know if Damdred's role pm says he is townfirmed masons with geript or not.


Why do you assume otherwise?

because i dont think geript is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 12:58 GMT
#1403
On July 15 2017 21:56 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.


meh, I dunno it's not a strong argument. skynx needs to do something.

no. people can do all kinds of shit as mafia.
people do not come into the thread and actually put effort into building a post where the content is something they KNOW is bs. there is just no way mafia does that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 12:59 GMT
#1404
it's like calling a red wall blue when everyone can easily see its in fact a red wall, and then you somehow believe that other people will believe you.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:00 GMT
#1405
On July 15 2017 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:56 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.


meh, I dunno it's not a strong argument. skynx needs to do something.

no. people can do all kinds of shit as mafia.
people do not come into the thread and actually put effort into building a post where the content is something they KNOW is bs. there is just no way mafia does that.


By definition every case that a mafia makes is bs, so there has to be holes in it. I'm not convinced that skynx's were outside of the realm of something that mafia could do.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:01 GMT
#1406
Or would do.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:03 GMT
#1407
On July 15 2017 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:55 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Before the night ends i really want to know if Damdred's role pm says he is townfirmed masons with geript or not.


Why do you assume otherwise?

because i dont think geript is town.


This masons thing is good for town tho I think right now, I feel good on a lot of people
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:04 GMT
#1408
It's a little weird to me that you view the case as something that skynx really believed considering that he was scum reading you lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:07 GMT
#1409
On July 15 2017 22:00 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:56 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.


meh, I dunno it's not a strong argument. skynx needs to do something.

no. people can do all kinds of shit as mafia.
people do not come into the thread and actually put effort into building a post where the content is something they KNOW is bs. there is just no way mafia does that.


By definition every case that a mafia makes is bs, so there has to be holes in it. I'm not convinced that skynx's were outside of the realm of something that mafia could do.

It is not that the case is bs, ofc every case mafia does on a townie is bs.
It is the fact that when you make a case on a townie you want other people to believe it is a case to lynch for. And this is definitely not one, because if Skynx is mafia he knows he is accusing a townie and doing it in a way he will get called out.

When mafia does a case like that they try to -- even a worst mafia player ever tries to -- make a post where they either lynch the dude, or look town if not lynch the dude. The point is you have to predict the outcome before it is out there, and this does not give you good %'s.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:08 GMT
#1410
On July 15 2017 22:04 emperorchampion wrote:
It's a little weird to me that you view the case as something that skynx really believed considering that he was scum reading you lol

you realize that me being the target has nothing to do with if he believes in it or not? OMGUS is your enemy in a mafia game. i don't think people wrongfully accusing me in itself make them mafia, and noone should.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 15 2017 13:09 GMT
#1411
No internet since my last post cuz #turkey...

Both wagons were town guys pls re-evaluate stuff
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2017 13:13 GMT
#1412
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 15 2017 13:14 GMT
#1413
Dunno why aren't we questioning the mason claim. If two guys are masons wouldn't it make sense to simultaneously claim in the thread cuz they can coordinate it? That would add a shit ton of value to the claim. Now it looks like Damdred wasn't happy with geript's plan in the mafia qt..
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 15 2017 13:16 GMT
#1414
On July 15 2017 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 21:38 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Obviously because i scumslipped duh


Can you give me a serious answer?

No, you will, and did, only get a sarcastic one for very obvious reasons.

Why do you even care if i am lock town?


So you're expecting to die?
Why so hesitant with giving scum reads.

I feel like I'm nitpicking, but it just seemed out of place.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:28 GMT
#1415
You really cant be town.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 15 2017 13:30 GMT
#1416
It's confirmed town in pm and in at.

And it's dumb to claim mafia as masons, like really dumb in the long run.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 15 2017 13:31 GMT
#1417
Tomorrow's lynch should be TW, his vote is by far the worst.

This is all he had to say about VA:
On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited


At the same time he's scumreading geript, stating his case on me is contradicting itself:
On July 15 2017 03:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 05:53 geript wrote:
Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx:

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.

I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.

Anyway thats not the main point:

If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.

The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.

On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??

rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.

Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point?

The real kicker is here:
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.

I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here.

***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.

On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
[...]
I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".

On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it?

Good point.


On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:
On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this:
You have three options:

1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally.

2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times.

3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!




Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry.

+ Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +
and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing. superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1.

I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.

Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.

On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:
On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript?


Where are you going with this

Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town.


Me and who else is town? Geript?

Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has?

Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.

People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?

Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.

TLDR
1. Skynx downplays his own post
2. Skynx picks at trivial things
3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn
4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has

are the people attacking geript already all over this? cause if not i'm boutta write a sick case. cause point 1 directly contradicts point 4


But that's it, votes geript and pushes nothing more about it while his two townreads lead the vagon. On EoD, he switches me last min and;

On July 15 2017 05:57 Tumblewood wrote:
if i'm correct geript, ec, and damdred are masons?
don't like va lynch slightly more than skynx lynch

On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx

This is just a typical scum move when both wagons are town. His two page filter is shit in terms of opinion regarding me and VA. Can't stay on geript cuz he claimed so makes a pointless vote on losing wagon, trying to present it like it was saving a town.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:33 GMT
#1418
Damdred lets make a deal?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 15 2017 13:34 GMT
#1419
On July 15 2017 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:04 emperorchampion wrote:
It's a little weird to me that you view the case as something that skynx really believed considering that he was scum reading you lol

you realize that me being the target has nothing to do with if he believes in it or not? OMGUS is your enemy in a mafia game. i don't think people wrongfully accusing me in itself make them mafia, and noone should.


Yeah I'll reconsider on this.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2017 13:35 GMT
#1420
I will sheep you and geript on D2 regardless of what you guys want to do in the end.
If neither of you two are dead by D3 we auto lynch geript.
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