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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:53 GMT
#2670
I've thought about it a lot EC and I don't think rels is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:54 GMT
#2671
and by a lot I mean like 8 or so minutes today without reading anything
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:56 GMT
#2676
On July 20 2017 02:54 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 02:43 Rels wrote:
On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote:
EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours.


Heh

it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS.
Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing.
Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions.


I recall these being separate occasions. Probably the last two nights. You trying to get a reaction out of tumble, getting one, the forgetting it is incredibly suspicious to me. It looks like you didn't care at all. Getting the reaction, then forgetting about it goes exactly against your reason for holding the vote. This is why I don't believe you on either point.

Holding your vote from your team mate and then once the pressure is off is entirely what scum would do.


What any self respecting scum player would do in this situation is jump onto the wagon for extra credit

or divert the lynch as hard as they can

rels did neither


sl did it for him


no he didn't at all, I don't think mafia rels plays that unbelievably sloppy that he doesn't get credit, he's not a bad player

mafia don't make plans like this with 10 minutes to go lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:56 GMT
#2677
On July 20 2017 02:55 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:54 Holyflare wrote:
and by a lot I mean like 8 or so minutes today without reading anything


If rels and tumble are a scum team, do their actions make sense together?


no :D

aka rels is not likely mafia because of his deadline actions
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:57 GMT
#2678
I'm sorry EC, I think you're just mafia and that pains me after declaring you definitely town but there's no way I see your vivax read lining up with your play today at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:57 GMT
#2679
like the defence of him when he's posted 4 posts and all of them you've vocally declared are trash is just too much for me to believe you any more
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:58 GMT
#2682
I apologise if you're town but I will not be swayed from you being mafia any longer
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 17:59 GMT
#2683
there's one thing you can do to resolve your alignment though and that's vote vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:08 GMT
#2690
On July 20 2017 03:00 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
there's one thing you can do to resolve your alignment though and that's vote vivax


I can vote him now to make you happy, maybe he'll be motivated to post something. But at the end of the day we flip either rels or tumble.


yeah that's really gonna put all the pressure on him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:08 GMT
#2691
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:13 GMT
#2695
On July 20 2017 03:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:09 Rels wrote:
On July 15 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Something maybe kinda stupid that I was thinking about: how genuine is koshi's read of damdred based off of damdred 's read of geript. I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons.

Rayns seemed more genuine but idk

On July 15 2017 18:25 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote:
Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.

Damdred is town.


People who pretend to have a lot of reads but are not sharing them with the thread:
rsoultin



PS to rayn: he is talking about ruxxar


Like this post is exactly wrong, maybe damdy can chime in more, but I assume there was some tmi in the read.

Mafia motivation is to fit in, buddy rayn for same reads.

Did Koshi really know that Damdred / geript were masons at the time he wrote that post ? If yes then it's really damning

But he didn't ? It's during the first 24 hours of the game. Why are you saying Koshi knew Damdred was mason ?


he's saying that Koshi knows Damdred is town and has tmi so koshi made that read to fit that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:14 GMT
#2697
On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax


What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?


his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread

he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him

which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:15 GMT
#2699
On July 20 2017 03:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:12 Rels wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:09 Rels wrote:
On July 15 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Something maybe kinda stupid that I was thinking about: how genuine is koshi's read of damdred based off of damdred 's read of geript. I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons.

Rayns seemed more genuine but idk

On July 15 2017 18:25 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote:
Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.

Damdred is town.


People who pretend to have a lot of reads but are not sharing them with the thread:
rsoultin



PS to rayn: he is talking about ruxxar


Like this post is exactly wrong, maybe damdy can chime in more, but I assume there was some tmi in the read.

Mafia motivation is to fit in, buddy rayn for same reads.

Did Koshi really know that Damdred / geript were masons at the time he wrote that post ? If yes then it's really damning

But he didn't ? It's during the first 24 hours of the game. Why are you saying Koshi knew Damdred was mason ?


he's saying that Koshi knows Damdred is town and has tmi so koshi made that read to fit that

Then what does this sentence mean ?
"I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons. "


that damdred's read was bs because he knew geript was town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:17 GMT
#2701
yes because my view is:

Damdred is probably mafia because he usually gives basic gut/tone reads at the beginning of the game so the fact he has multiple reasons to hardcore town read geript is scummy

koshi's is the complete opposite because he knew they were both town and made it so the read would fit

my read was the correct meta whereas koshi was probably bs tmi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:23 GMT
#2709
On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax


What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?


his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread

he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him

which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:


Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed.

When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing.


no it's not coincidental in the slightest because:

1. Your TW read ALSO was updated to be that he was town because of tone etc at deadline:

Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod


2. Confirmed town also saved Tumblewood, who you town read AT THE SAME TIME AS THEM.

3. Rels looked awful from not placing his vote at the time. Mafia don't want to look awful.

4. Like I said before, mafia don't make these plans you're talking about.

5. SL pushed someone he thought was mafia over someone he said started looking towny, which you yourself thought too (tw looked towny), so SL is not mafia because he started pushing his mafia read (like last game ).

If confirmed town damdred/geript(at some point) could vote off TW and you said he was looking towny it's not a big stretch in the slightest that they could be town too. You have just started a narrative. You also arbitrarily have made Tumblewood mafia again FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than people saving him. This only makes sense in the world where you have to rewrite history. You town read TW at that same time, just like those people, you can't erase this and rewrite the narrative.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:32 GMT
#2712
On July 20 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote:
well this is holyf***e mafia all over again.
but hf, i don't think ec is scum just for doubting whether vivax is scum. it's inconsistent and all that, but i'd give him the benefit of the doubt. if it were a solid, veteran player maybe not, but i think ec has the potential to do weird flips like that as town.


what's this supposed to mean?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:36 GMT
#2717
On July 20 2017 03:34 Vivax wrote:
I don't feel that strongly about emc mafia after reading a bit of his filter. There was one thing I didn't like in particular but the bigger picture suggests town to me atm.

I think mafia can be anywhere in HF/Koshi/TW/Rels/Skynx atm. And I think Koshi is the best shot for today literally just for D1 with his minion stuff and followup lacking koshi passion even though in his later posts he starts putting in more effort.

I made a mistake replacing into the game cause I have things going on more important than mafia atm and I overestimated my will to catch up in the little time I'm not doing something else.


then why the fuck did you vote ec yesterday?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#2721
yeh we just vote vivax today
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:45 GMT
#2723
EC just use some simple logic if you're town and get out of the tunnel:

If you can read TW town then so can other people. It doesn't have to miraculously be a mafia ploy.

Now you're saying they're all town reading each other like it's some mega scheme but I also started town reading rels and sl and possibly but probably not TW and I'm not mafia so it doesn't make them mafia either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 19 2017 18:49 GMT
#2724
On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax


What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?


his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread

he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him

which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:


Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed.

When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing.


no it's not coincidental in the slightest because:

1. Your TW read ALSO was updated to be that he was town because of tone etc at deadline:

Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod


2. Confirmed town also saved Tumblewood, who you town read AT THE SAME TIME AS THEM.

3. Rels looked awful from not placing his vote at the time. Mafia don't want to look awful.

4. Like I said before, mafia don't make these plans you're talking about.

5. SL pushed someone he thought was mafia over someone he said started looking towny, which you yourself thought too (tw looked towny), so SL is not mafia because he started pushing his mafia read (like last game ).

If confirmed town damdred/geript(at some point) could vote off TW and you said he was looking towny it's not a big stretch in the slightest that they could be town too. You have just started a narrative. You also arbitrarily have made Tumblewood mafia again FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than people saving him. This only makes sense in the world where you have to rewrite history. You town read TW at that same time, just like those people, you can't erase this and rewrite the narrative.


1. I can understand the reasons that the tumble related things don't make sense. To me my read was based on tone, but the way things look now it's bad to me. If you want other reasons to think he's scum you can look up koshi's case.

2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that.

3. It doesn't have to be a "plan" , sl just comes in and tries to get the vote off of tumble because he's a teammate


This is also hilarious.

Koshi I stated some reasons for night 1. His day 1 could be trying to do this low post thing, but failing as mafia. The reads thing with damdred could be pretty weak, but it's still there. Otherwise his progression through the day was hella weird, I'm town, then maybe not, now scum. Yeah I should've looked more into this earlier. To be fair to myself I said beforehand I wasn't really gonna do much today. There are many other inconsistencies that hf pointed out with respect to the tumble meta thing.
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