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On July 19 2017 06:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2017 06:20 emperorchampion wrote:On July 19 2017 06:18 Rels wrote:On July 19 2017 06:14 emperorchampion wrote: Like it was already 5 on ruxxar, why the hell would you switch last minute. Also, you said you did it to bait out reaction/ info and you got nothing? Maybe dude forgot his own posts lol why are you talking to me, then talking to someone else in that last sentence ... ? I switched 'cause I wanted to lynch TW over ruxxar. I thought you were saying I was scummy 'cause I didn't vote TW over ruxxar ? Now I'm scummy 'cause I made a switch that couldn't achieve anything ? On July 19 2017 06:14 emperorchampion wrote: Why are you so mad dude? 'cause you don't make sense. No I'm saying that your switch timing is bs because it couldn't achieve anything. But if you had done so earlier it might would have been much more effective. No way you can use your switch to defend yourself YOu're the one with HF saying it doesnt make sense that I didnt vote TW over ruxxar WHEN I TRIED TO DO IT
15 minutes to go, "TW is definitely mafia cos conveniently appears"
SL: "Let's switch to ruxxar"
TW: "I was just appearing at deadline cos it's deadline"
Rels; "Nah it makes you mafia"
---- 5 minutes to go ----
Masons: "Let's switch to ruxxar with sl!"
Rels: "Lol you're still mafia tw!"
---- deadline ----
rels votes TW
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it's like you didn't even give a shit about lynching someone you thought about mafia, you were more interested in arguing with tw why him appearing made him mafia
arguing with mafia instead of voting mafia
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emperorchampion is without a doubt town
there is nothing in this game that can change my mind, he was the only one here at night time trying to dive filters and point things out when nobody else was doing anything else
nothing can sway me
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Tw can you give a brief sentence on the ppl you town read and why?
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Today we are going to pick 2 main wagons and vote for either of those two. No other wagon is allowed to be formed. You will be forced to actually place votes that matter now instead of copping out from vca by afking on irrelevant wagons.
It has been decided.
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On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm.TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him.
His read came down to this:
On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reasonand since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this
I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated.Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow.Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time. I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet.
This is a mafia post, it has to be.
The bolded shows that his current scum team is Koshi/emc and one of rels or skynx but when he has to explain them he says EC has a semi helpful entrance and absolutely nothing more about it which doesn't look like a reason to scum read anyone in the slightest, let alone have him second in his mafia list.
Then I have a massive problem with the fact that this post is about his scum reads but then 90% of it is devoted to his read about tumblewood. Then I even have a problem with a read. He's clearly a town read because of him not appearing in Vivax's scum list but then why is 50% of the read devoted to shitting all over his town read with "Oh maybe he's not town because of this one quote". It doesn't really fit. The green and the red show you the divide that he spends talking about how TW is town (green) and how TW is showing mafia traits (red). More red than green. THEN he ends it with "Despite the TMI thing he's got good vibes"???? It's so fucking backwards. If it's good vibes why bother writing about it????
Then he's not caught up with the game and his vote was on EC last night because he was sheeping Rayn. Vivax is caught up with "The end and beginning of the game" but doesn't even realise that we've been telling him repeatedly the Skynx/rayn thing is false and his only reason for EC is "Emc had a semi helpful entrance." So why the fuck is he a scum read if that's all he's got on him? He doesn't even reference the rayn/skynx thing here. Furthermore, he hasn't even equated that Skynx made the case on EC but now he thinks both EC and Skynx are mafia. No critical thinking.
Don't even get me started on his rels read. Absolutely 0 said about it.
##vote vivax
Time to get to work Vivax. I am disgusted by Rsoultin's mafia play.
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You can tell Vivax is actually mafia because he doesn't interact with anything in the thread at all. It doesn't matter if he's behind or not, if he town read me then he would interact with me at the time he was placing his vote at least.
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I like that rels pointed out this vivax post though
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the vivax post is like 100% mafia tho
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what on earth are you talking about?
you're saying it's so bad mafia wouldn't make a post like that?
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You realise that in 120 hours of game time vivax has made 4 posts?
Two of those you hated because it wanted to lynch you based on incorrect information and dead rayn's outdated read.
Another one of those is the post I quoted above.
All of his filter is complete irrelevant trash that YOU hated. Now you want to lynch SL/Rels/anyone not vivax.
I don't buy it. Vivax is a good player, he doesn't make these posts and he especially does absolutely no interacting with anyone.
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and he always interacts with the thread*
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These people look like town to me, but aren't quite locked:
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Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod
You even read Tumblewood town but now you're using Rels' deadline action and SL's actions to divert from TW to Ruxxar as scummy when you don't even scum read Tumblewood. You read him town because of towny reaction at deadline which SL also did AND diverted it because of those reasons. So why do you want to lynch SL when he's doing the exact things you're thinking? The caveat is that SL scum read Ruxxar so it's not even that bad.
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On July 18 2017 17:50 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 17:45 Holyflare wrote: It's possible vivax is mafia but I will lose all my respect for rsoultin in the process.
Vivax play right now is absolutely mafia vivax. Like 100%. I told him his ec read was wrong and he didn't care and left.
But then that means rsoultin thing..... It's a pretty shitty subject to talk about, but I was thinking that if rsoul was scum, she might have felt bad getting "town confirmed" off of her attitude. I don't think it's that likely tbh, but honestly what vivax did last night in combination for not posting for 72 hours is possibly the scummiest thing I have ever seen in mafia.
wtf zone Vivax: this is some bullshit. Still bullshit that it's pretty much 50/50 based on other stuff with rsoul's spot. Strongly starting to suspect that he replaced into a red spot and didn't want to put any effort in.
On July 19 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2017 05:05 Vivax wrote:I'd put the mafia at Koshi, emc, one of Rels or Skynx atm. TW has really improved his posting shape wise and his reads align with mine more or less (with exception of emc), but I'm afraid of TMI in his case and that he's trying to look shiny. For example I didn't like Ruxxars posting much during D1 and I'm not sure what made him townread him. His read came down to this: On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote: So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reasonand since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this I think this isn't a strong reason to have at the time, at least an explanation on what he would expect mafia to do instead would be appreciated. Besides the TMI thing he gives off good vibes so not lynching him tomorrow. Koshi for his minion entry followed up by a very funless unkoshiesque D1. Emc had a semi helpful entrance. Skynx case on rayn looked slightly over the top to me at the time. I'm kind of slightly caught up on both ends of the game but the middle is lacking atm and most player filters as well, so I'm just going to post un caught up and out of my ass for a while since I really have no connection to this game yet. Vivax: why scum read on me, and you think I'm trying to bus koshi since day 1?
On July 19 2017 05:17 emperorchampion wrote: Vivax: after 100+ pages you're scum reading both koshi and I based on our entry post?
On July 18 2017 05:18 emperorchampion wrote: If vivax is actually scum jesus h christ
On July 18 2017 05:18 emperorchampion wrote: Looking highly likely at this point
On July 18 2017 05:27 emperorchampion wrote: How can you in good faith vote with vivax
Look at his last posts
On July 18 2017 05:29 emperorchampion wrote: Koshi vivax and ruxx most likely
this is bull shit EC, you have been saying vivax is scummy forever and suddenly his posts are too scumy to be scum and give him some time to respond?????? How long? 1000 hours?
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way way way too much defending on someone EC thought was scum
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EC why is rels scum for his vote when you TOWN read tumble?!?!?!?!
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On July 20 2017 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:43 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote: EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours. Heh it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS. Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing. Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions. I recall these being separate occasions. Probably the last two nights. You trying to get a reaction out of tumble, getting one, the forgetting it is incredibly suspicious to me. It looks like you didn't care at all. Getting the reaction, then forgetting about it goes exactly against your reason for holding the vote. This is why I don't believe you on either point. Holding your vote from your team mate and then once the pressure is off is entirely what scum would do.
What any self respecting scum player would do in this situation is jump onto the wagon for extra credit
or divert the lynch as hard as they can
rels did neither
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