EPTOn July 16 2017 08:00 Koshi wrote:
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From now on I'm going to behave in a good manner. No more derogatory, sarcastic or inflammatory commments. Only PG-13 and family friendly comments from now on. | ||
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On July 16 2017 08:29 Holyflare wrote: Ruxxar you do understand if you're town you haven't got any better since last game and you're mafia siding really hard? Please explain how so I can learn from my mistakes. I want to become a better player. | ||
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On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote: @HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously. I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town. The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post. After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent. Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed: Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe. But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch. Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right: On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote: the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today ... actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) HOWEVER. When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get: On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote: i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads. This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game. This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda. It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town. | ||
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On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote: @ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you? I called tumble lock town first. | ||
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On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote: @ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you? Please explain why that is important to you. | ||
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On July 16 2017 18:35 Holyflare wrote: I have a massive headache. Expect nothing from me. I'll look at tw later I guess but I haven't read a single filter all game. Take it easy man, get some good rest | ||
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On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote: wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. | ||
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On July 16 2017 19:30 emperorchampion wrote: I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations. I can see that. I know I look bad for my defending of VA, so I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I think TW also looks bad for his supposed town read on VA. I wouldn't say it's definitely mafia though, since I'm town and reached the same conclusion. What most bothers me about TW, is how little doubt he has about any of his reads. His reads are static and non evolving as the game progresses. Most notably very few ingame events makes him reconsider his reads, which means that his reads are locked regardless of what we do. That is a sign of someone with TMI aka mafia. | ||
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On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote: How so out of context? I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me. What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post. I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes? | ||
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On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote: He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context Yes, but why specifically that one? Examples of thought processes: "I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit" "I was looking for a reason to call skynx town". When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information. Imperfect information leads to assumptions. Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion. If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination. | ||
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On July 16 2017 20:49 Holyflare wrote: Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi lol mafia team What do you think about my post on TW? | ||
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On July 16 2017 20:57 emperorchampion wrote: It could be something, but to me it's pretty nai By itself, yes. But forcing him to explain it can lead to inconsistencies in his explanation over a longer period of time. A scum player doesn't have a set of reads in his head that he keeps mulling over and reevaluates over the timeline of the game. They already know they alignment of everyone. As such it's very easy for scum to trip over their own reads or contradict themselves. They don't have the same natural flow of timeline in their head where their town and scum reads are living. Instead they make static reads based part on thread sentiment and part based on some inconsistency they think they found on another player. At first glance that might look pretty townie, but as mafia your reads tend to go stale. You made a case on a person and that's it. You don't follow the flow of the thread and update your reads. You stick with the case you made on that person and that's it. As such it's hard to keep a consistent stream of reads, especially scum reads as mafia. Anyway. The reason I'm prodding TW about it is because I want to see if there's a genuine thought process that I can associate with the rest of his play(consistency in play) and that it's not just an artificial read produced to fit his mafia gameplan. | ||
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I'm traveling by car on a road trip tonight at 10pm ish. I won't arrive at my destination until the next morning. I won't be available during that time. | ||
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If rels flips green, we are lynching HF, correct? | ||
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On July 16 2017 21:59 Holyflare wrote: Are you doing retarded mafia siding things intentionally? No. | ||
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On July 16 2017 22:10 Holyflare wrote: Then why even ask? I'm town read by everyone in this game and have no reason to fake claim and rels and koshi a red check and your top scum read are just afk doing nothing. Why would you even ask that question at that point? Break down your thought process to me. 1) Because I'm concerned that you are mafia fake-claiming. And if rels flips green you're going to claim that mafia has a framer to balance out the masons/cop. If rels flips green I'm not going to believe such a claim from you. 2) what do you mean "and koshi a red check"? | ||
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