[N] TL Mafia LXXV

On June 09 2017 07:17 Half the Sky wrote:


Nice. Welcome back!

wow my first game in 5 years and i roll green, sucks

On June 14 2017 13:40 Xatalos wrote:


:/

On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.

On June 14 2017 16:33 Xatalos wrote:


The deadline is what's killing me.

On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.

On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.

On June 14 2017 23:06 Vivax wrote:
I'm pretty happy with df, btdt, skynx, annul as townreads for the time being.

Damdred kind of going for the hands off approach leaves him at null, I think his latest post would be easy to make as either alignment.

@ Ruxxar



Do you think that disfo is the only one who fell into that category by that point? I think there's a lot of people you could have applied that to.

On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

On June 14 2017 23:32 Vivax wrote:




Someone tell me this is just a minor inconsistency?

On June 14 2017 10:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Good chat. I say we kill Plumbo.

On June 15 2017 01:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
I stepped into the dusty bar, slightly late for my appointment with destiny. I had been tipped off that a lot of rabble and undesirables had been coming through here lately.

My eyes scanned over the place and found myself in a scum's paradise. It was loud and disorderly from the bartender to the poker players in the back. In almost every bar, you could rely on seeing the long paneled bar, usually made of oak or mahogany, and shining brilliantly. Encircling the base of the bar would be a gleaming brass foot rail with a row of leather stools along the bar. Along the ledge, the patrons would find towels hanging so that they might wipe the beer suds from their mustaches. The only thing that looked familiar here was the on-going poker game.

Now I won't say that every man in the place looked suspicious, but they didn't all look like angels either. One shady fellow looked to be gettin' along real well with most of the crowd, but something felt off to him about me. There were two older men towards the back of the bar having a bicker as others watched on, leaving me unsure as to their motives. One particular drunk at the bar kept insisting he was a cop to the bartender, which the bartender seemed to ignore. Probably a regular.

I was going to need some more time to find the bounty that eluded my senses at this point, and I sure as hell needed a beer.

On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.

On June 15 2017 02:19 Holyflare wrote:


when are you going to answer the inconsistency?

On June 14 2017 23:57 Koshi wrote:

The guy probably meant that from all posts that can be judged on tone and structure. The post from disfo had the most words. Which makes it easier to judge it on tone and structure.

something like that.

On June 15 2017 04:14 Koshi wrote:
I can you can't.

On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:

I'm kinda looking at you tbh.

On June 15 2017 04:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar can i grab a list post pls

On June 15 2017 04:33 Fecalfeast wrote:

👍yes

On June 15 2017 04:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I eagerly await your explanation of sicklucker as your top town. I understand phone posting is shitty so i will wait for a keyboard

On June 15 2017 04:50 VayneAuthority wrote:

dont worry, the story will continue when actually interesting things happen

On June 15 2017 04:43 Koshi wrote:

meh. I don't think mafia keeps it up like he did. It's hard.

On June 15 2017 05:26 Koshi wrote:

He is not a scumread because he has done nothing scummy.

I do not know who is scum atm.

On June 15 2017 06:13 Koshi wrote:

It's not townie, like it doesn't buy him towncred. I just believe it comes from a townie rather than a mafia. I don't like to say it like this but I will: He looks more like a newb being happy and trying to play to game, than a veteran mafia player pretending to be clueless and gathering activity and steering the thread in the wrong direction.

Now I don't know how a newb mafia player would play, but I don't think I have seen them play like Ruxxar is playing here.



And I saw he already has some games under his belt but I just don't see it atm.

On June 15 2017 06:30 Vivax wrote:


Being townread is scary when you know you're being a scummy duck?

On June 15 2017 08:45 Rels wrote:

What you are not taking into account is that he is extremely townie as town. I played or obsed probably all his games and he was always super logical and always trying. Here he is not. Here he makes easy posts.

On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks

On June 16 2017 00:46 Holyflare wrote:
Another guy hard town reading me after he got carried by me as mafia dodging a red check and knows my capabilities. Would lynch ruxxar.

On June 16 2017 01:25 annul wrote:


this is an extremely red tinged post, do not let it go undetected.

if eversince flips town, then this is a foundation for a future argument to be made against sicklucker. however, this post gives ruxxar cover both for a future attack and also when eversince and sicklucker flip town (which, if ruxxar is mafia, he would know would happen).

it also gives him cover for if a wagon were to form based on the logic of "hey he blue claimed and was lying, this is only a mafia move, so kill him" for ruxxar to point to and say "see i told you all i thought he was town, what, don't blame me..."

no matter what the outcome is his post is such a line straddler that it serves no purpose except to give him cover while appearing like a contribution yet contributing nothing.

On June 16 2017 01:16 annul wrote:


lololol okay buddy tell me more about how disinterested i am when i call you out directly for a blatantly red tinged post

On June 16 2017 01:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Is koshi seriously still the lead wagon here? I'm confus

On June 16 2017 01:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
ruxxar believing the sicklucker claim is super weird

On June 16 2017 02:28 sicklucker wrote:
something in ryans filter made me think he might be town. since i voted him for reactions I thought id owe it to him to look

On June 16 2017 02:34 sicklucker wrote:
ya but its more fun to kill active people. im only on page 2 of his filter. heres hoping its bad the rest of the way

On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

Grack - I know he has posted but for the life of me can't think of what he posted about or what his reads are. Not good. I just checked his filter and he gives no original reads he just comments on posts, defends ruxxar and throws vague suspicion at darth.

Marv - i have played as scum with marv on my team and he didn't play at all and got lynched day 1 with no fight

Scumish list:

Tw - his townlist looks totally arbitrary
HF - I know I called him town earlier but he has spent the majority of the game participating in shitfights which I'm not a fan of
Ruxx - honestly I don't mind his recent posting I just don't want to be wrong lol

I've been on the toilet for like 15 mins doing this post so i should go back to work

On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

On June 16 2017 02:57 sicklucker wrote:


this was a JOKE Right? I always find scum cant see humor as easy

On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul

On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul

On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul

On June 16 2017 03:16 annul wrote:
koshi and ruxxar are the two people i've attacked most (and ruxxar before most others got onto him for his terribly red tinged post i cited) and are both still likely mafia. either one of these two current leading wagons make sense to me. half the game seems to agree with me too.

of course you are down ruxxar, you're in second place and i am one of your accusers.

also,



if this makes sense to you (as anything other than a bad attempt at camouflage by a red) then that is suspect to me

On June 16 2017 03:21 annul wrote:


cautiously? nah. but i do respond to direct attacks; trying to imply an alignment based on "he responds to attacks on him" is a pretty bad play tbh

On June 16 2017 03:24 annul wrote:


to what end? why split the vote? the two people i suspect are currently leading the vote #1/#2. i am perfectly happy with this for today.

On June 16 2017 03:29 darthfoley wrote:
would also be down for Rels and maybe TW. Although TWs town looks so bad that it might just be town!TW

On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar.

On June 16 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:

you are a pretty big question mark.
skynx and df are big town reads.

skynx had a good post on xata

On June 16 2017 03:47 Skynx wrote:
There is no way this annul train hitting mafia. So fishy that trio.

On June 16 2017 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:


Xatalos (4) darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation
Koshi (3): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax
annul (3): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
sicklucker (1): Palmar
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx, sicklucker
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (8): Rels, Damdred, VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Xatalos out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

On June 16 2017 03:56 disformation wrote:

heavily implying i have a scum lean (should have posted that)



too many ppl/posts to comment on everything

On June 16 2017 04:20 Vivax wrote:
Feels like the game is being deflected off ES and Ruxxar onto annul/Xata.
Koshi with the hipster reads.

This is the game I'm feeling I'm currently in.

On June 16 2017 04:26 Koshi wrote:

His fire only burns when somebody calls him mafia.

On June 16 2017 04:29 disformation wrote:

can you explain your annul scumread plx? prefered like I was a braindead 3 yr old

On June 16 2017 04:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't think it matters yet, he wont be lynched here. I just want to bring some attention to his filter, especially his horrid beginning of day one. Feel free to cross reference his games as I did

On June 16 2017 04:52 Vivax wrote:


And you going to call him mafia for that or is this just as superficial as it looks?

On June 16 2017 04:52 sicklucker wrote:
not really. I think skyx is quite scummy as well and would love him to be the counter wagon. This is a marathon not a sprint you should make your scum reads known even if you dont think they can be lynched currently. Of course you should try to get them lynched but thats not really va's way

On June 16 2017 04:56 sicklucker wrote:
but he never said he would not change it. cant call him guilty on that yet. if he wastes his vote then yes you have a point

On June 16 2017 04:59 VayneAuthority wrote:


Let's say you have a container of plums. Inside it is nothing but plums. You reach in and pull out a disgustingly squishy and over-ripe plum. if I put it back in and just decide to not eat a plum, is that a bad thing in your eyes?

On June 16 2017 05:09 Skynx wrote:
Well I'm gona go to bed. This town is all over the place, in some outright crazy situation where i get lynched, pls look previous page for who to lynch next.

On June 16 2017 05:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm getting cold feet.

On June 16 2017 08:08 Holyflare wrote:


how fucking convenient

On June 16 2017 08:11 Holyflare wrote:
also

marvellosity (1): Tumblewood

this guy

On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow

On June 16 2017 20:31 darthfoley wrote:
My royal decree is that Vivax is probably Town and I am okay with this

On June 17 2017 05:02 darthfoley wrote:
Three hours to live

On June 17 2017 05:14 darthfoley wrote:


Yawn

On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow

On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol

On June 16 2017 20:31 darthfoley wrote:
My royal decree is that Vivax is probably Town and I am okay with this

On June 17 2017 05:42 darthfoley wrote:


This is entertaining

On June 17 2017 06:02 darthfoley wrote:
In case I die,

Mafia are probably within
(No order)
Xata
SL
eversince
Rels
Grack
TW
AFKs
Maybe one in Skynx/btdt/disformation. Idk

On June 17 2017 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
No problems, I'll be keeping my eye on that shifty darthfoley

On June 17 2017 07:46 Fecalfeast wrote:

Why?

On June 17 2017 07:57 Fecalfeast wrote:

💩

On June 17 2017 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:


Endorsed

On June 17 2017 08:21 disformation wrote:
koshis last scum list:

hf's last scum list:

On June 17 2017 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
I'm gonna get nk. Just kill koshi and sl.

On June 17 2017 02:08 Koshi wrote:
2)Holyflare
4)Rels
7)Tumblewood
10)beentheredonethat
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
22)Eversince

Probably is Grack or Rels. I don't care who it is.

On June 17 2017 04:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels
Disformation
sl
xatalos
skynx
btdt

Koshi you are wrong.

On June 17 2017 06:02 darthfoley wrote:
In case I die,

Mafia are probably within
(No order)
Xata
SL
eversince
Rels
Grack
TW
AFKs
Maybe one in Skynx/btdt/disformation. Idk

On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote:
My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince.

ruxxar:
- "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it.
- buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible.

Skynx:
- good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it".

Koshi:
- didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad.
- called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad.
- good post on BTBT being bad
- a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere
- p35. Lock town.

disfo:
- pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check.
- had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around.

rayn:
- picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good.

Vivax:
- entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good.
- liking the annul's post I liked. Good.

BTDT:
- called Koshi town for no reason
- turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi
- townie posts though (p 21)

annul:
- calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good

DF:
- also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI.
- nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic.

Damdred:
- weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite.
- though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie.

FF:
- liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it.

Eversince:
- answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post.

Grack:
- weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good.

Xata:
- good post on ruxxar.

rayn:
- LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town.

On June 14 2017 23:00 Damdred wrote:
Hi friends,

I am taking a super simplified approach this game so my posts are not misconstrued.

Rayn is possible scum, his posts lacked the real fire and drive I am use to seeing amd his defense of koshi was bad. His responses to hf were also sort of to tame and accommodating to make me see town.

Btdt has me scratching my head currently, on one hand I did like the posts that koshi pointed out. But one post that was basically fear mongering about hf scum capabilities over rayn left me feeling a bit empty and concerned about his game state.

Ruxxar seems to be commenting on things in a hit and miss style while not really engaging in many back and forth(?). If that makes sense. I'd probably not say scum necessarily but I don't like him.

Xata isn't really being inquisitive or post. Also seems to just want to go with the flow, sort of see this coming from scum xata just super boring.

FF, disf are both sorta strong town reads though. Hf is sort of a moderate to low.

Besides that idk what I'm doing

On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks

On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:
I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them).

1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh).

2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM).

3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town.

4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him.

4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense.

5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched.

6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:



...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite.

That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either.

7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ???

Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time.

So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.

On June 16 2017 20:36 Vivax wrote:
If I just force myself to read DF town I can see a btdt/Xata/SL/ES/Ruxxar team.

But that would be pretty sad cause it means that yet again, the majority of town doesn't even try harder than mafia.

On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

Grack - I know he has posted but for the life of me can't think of what he posted about or what his reads are. Not good. I just checked his filter and he gives no original reads he just comments on posts, defends ruxxar and throws vague suspicion at darth.

Marv - i have played as scum with marv on my team and he didn't play at all and got lynched day 1 with no fight

Scumish list:

Tw - his townlist looks totally arbitrary
HF - I know I called him town earlier but he has spent the majority of the game participating in shitfights which I'm not a fan of
Ruxx - honestly I don't mind his recent posting I just don't want to be wrong lol

I've been on the toilet for like 15 mins doing this post so i should go back to work

On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery

I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.

Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax

Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred

On June 17 2017 02:28 Eversince wrote:


Meh, I don't want mod-killed. Which is the reason I bothered. I don't care if you believe me or not.
It wasn't in the interest of the game to let it happen, despite the fact I might die for it instead of taking the warning, here we are.

Grack, Damdred, TW, BTDT, Marv's slot, and AMG slot are all in the 'I can't be bothered to read your post, you don't post, or you simply space my current train of thought'

I don't like HF any better.
I don't like Koshi as until very close to deadline he seemed to very much be going back and forth between Annul/Xata both mafia to Just Xata.
Vivax is weird to me. The fight between you and him over phrasing is pretty dumb. And the eod stuff about me is dumb. There is a lot more reasonable things I think you could pick apart about my play thus far. Low hanging fruit is easy though.
SL I don't like for bending my words from "I think he was trolling" to "top town" I don't know how I feel about going into annul lynch yet, seems some of annul was fine and some was meh. The post immediately after deadline was enough for me to guess with some certainty he was town. Also he tends to spam in one liners and make my head hurt trying to read through.
VA is another ? mark I think more people should look at. He made 2 in-character post. The second big one he claims he's going to "save innocents" and votes Skinx and doesn't give any legible input on any of the wagons I can remember.
Palmar looks terrible to me but everyone seems to agree he just does w/e so one liners with no explanation must be good enough.

Rels is meh/ok I guess aside from being afkish (I'm one to talk)
Xata is confusing right now because I don't remember a lot leading up to it. Reads something or other being out there and the only one I can think of is maby Rayn? That was way early in D1 though and yes, he went back and forth on it but a lot of people did.
Disfo is active and chatty but like everyone else has pointed out: doesn't lead to many places.

DF is ok,
FF is ok,
Rayn is ok,
Skinx is ok

On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at

On June 17 2017 08:23 Fecalfeast wrote:

Are you claiming vigi?

On June 17 2017 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why don't you tell us what you see instead of making it seem like you're doing work and having us make conclusions for you

On June 17 2017 09:36 darthfoley wrote:


So now I'm back into the town pile

On June 16 2017 03:37 Koshi wrote:
Koshi (5): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, annul, ruXxar
ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax

There is at least 2 probably 3 mafia in these 9 players and I am pretty sure it isn't ruXxar. So 3 in 7. And I am pretty sure it isn't Vivax or fefe. So that's 3 in 5. Doesn't get easier than that.

On June 16 2017 03:39 Koshi wrote:
And both disfo and btdt are doing this same thing of not fully committing to scumread me but do it meh meh. I think btdt is more likely mafia over disfo though. Probably not both. And then HF is without doubt pushing mafia agenda the most this game. What a scrub cuz he is more likely town.

On June 16 2017 02:09 Half the Sky wrote:


Koshi (5): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax
Xatalos (3): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (1): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
sicklucker (1): Palmar
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (8): Rels, Damdred, VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

On June 16 2017 03:58 Half the Sky wrote:


Xatalos (4): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation
Koshi (3): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
annul (3): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast
ruXxar (2): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
sicklucker (1): Palmar
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (8): Rels, Damdred, VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

On June 17 2017 18:36 Chezitwo wrote:
Hello friends!

On June 17 2017 18:44 Blazinghand wrote:
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if he flips scum i had really great reasons to vote him and you should give me tons of cred for pushing him

if he flips town, I never voted for him and this was a typo, i haven't even read the thread, don't blame me etc etc

On June 17 2017 18:45 Chezitwo wrote:
100 pages to read, Mr. Koshi is dead.
Sad!

On June 17 2017 18:49 Chezitwo wrote:

Are you gonna be my fox news?

On June 17 2017 19:09 Chezitwo wrote:

Much obliged. Now I do not even have to read anymore.

On June 17 2017 19:25 Xatalos wrote:
Alright. disformation is scum. I'm almost 100% sure of it.

On June 17 2017 19:27 Chezitwo wrote:

"marv was afk"

On June 17 2017 19:30 ruXxar wrote:


A vote train is starting on xatalos and he knows this.
Instead of coming into the thread, which he hasnt posted in for like 10 hours, he just jumps into the vote thread, ninjavotes for marv then takes off.

I don't like it.

On June 17 2017 19:33 Xatalos wrote:


Well, I'm already dead by N2 regardless. I'm content even if disfo gets lynched tomorrow - of course today would be preferable so scum would use a kill on me instead.

On June 17 2017 19:36 disformation wrote:
sry that thing screams super desperate town trying to get one more day.

though i am slightly biased since i 100% know im 100% town n stuff. =D

On June 17 2017 19:39 disformation wrote:
to hype to type! =D

On June 17 2017 19:42 Chezitwo wrote:

Weren't people calling for a vigshot on you? I did not read very closely yesterday but I seem to remember it this way. Seems more than just risky.

On June 17 2017 19:42 Xatalos wrote:


Does it really? If disfo flips scum (very likely), then I die N2, it seems like the optimal situation info-wise. Even if I'm lying, it'd be apparent soon enough so makes no difference for vote information. In any case it's not too bad even if I do get lynched now I guess.

On June 17 2017 18:33 ruXxar wrote:



Here's two posts of koshi that he made early.

Looking at this list, and knowing that koshi is town, I would assume that there is definitely some mafia on the koshi train.
I mean, Holyflare is like the EASIEST guy to sheep. If holy flare makes a push on someone, it's so easy to just ride on the back of his arguments and let him do all the job.

Knowing that, I think koshi is right.

There is one mafia here:

Koshi (5): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, annul, ruXxar
ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax

Also notice that there was two town wagons going.
That means that mafia has no reason to pile up together, they rather split up to reduce risk.

---

Now here's another tidbit I want to throw out there.

Theres no way that xatalos and disformation are scum together.
Here's why:

Look at this vote.
Koshi is sitting comfortably in the lead as town, mafia are happy.
Xatalos has 3 votes, but is not directly in danger yet.



So what happens next?



The vote situation ends up like this:



There is no way Disformation would do this to his buddy xatalos

So the conclusion is this.

If Xatalos is mafia, then Disformation is town.

I'm very confident in this finding.

On June 17 2017 20:02 Xatalos wrote:


Worst comes to worst, disfo is just a free lynch D3. I don't terribly mind that outcome since I'm dying soon no matter what.

Considering that, I think I'll have some time today to read the game so I can try to leave a legacy.

On June 17 2017 20:13 Xatalos wrote:


I think I played exactly similarly last time I was Cop and the main wagon at D1 end. I thought of claiming there several times too, but hid my cards as much as I possibly could, betting on the chance of an approaching reversal.

On June 17 2017 20:29 Xatalos wrote:


It is actually surprisingly fine with me. I'm so dead regardless that a small boost to victory odds by tonnes of effort doesn't seem hugely appealing. If that's what we decide, then so be it.

That being said, I'm in the unique position of knowing that disfo is already scum, so I'll most likely look at things and try to solve the scumteam from that perspective later tonight when I have more time again.

On June 17 2017 20:33 Xatalos wrote:
Ahh yeah, someone asked me why I thought annul had a good reputation?

Not exactly sure from where. I think he's been playing for like 10 years or something though? So I thought he would be better than that as town.

On June 17 2017 20:58 disformation wrote:
really really pissed we dont have a vig

On June 17 2017 20:59 disformation wrote:
and it is frustratingly hard to find specific posts already

On June 17 2017 22:00 Vivax wrote:


It's exceptionally unlikely.

If you are mafia and Ruxxar town though it would make sense that mafia skynx pinged Ruxxar at the start of D1 for +1ing your post.

I'm not on Xatalos autolynch btw. You will have to convince me you are town.
I'll be gone grilling for most of the day so you won't have to endure me for much longer.

On June 17 2017 22:11 darthfoley wrote:
If Xata flips cop/Town somehow I think there's a very good chance ruXxar is mafia as well as disformation

On June 17 2017 21:10 Vivax wrote:
I'm catching up , gonna ignore all this cop stuff until I'm done but if disfo is cop he should absolutely insta cc.

I don't think the following posts at night after I left look particularly good for rayn.



Pulls the post out of context and reads what Koshi said wrong.



Says that Palmar is mafia if SL isn't. Not a good reasoning.

The following posts on skynx are good on the other hand.
But he completely misses SL and ES until HF points it out. I'm not used to sloppy rayn?
His mafia list goes a lot with sentiment and doesn't include ES and Ruxxar for ?reasons?

End of Night 1 rayn. Don't feel that he's necessarily town like I did post his big post cause of those. I think he's conveniently leaving out Ruxxar and ES in his scum list as well.



Is this post by Ruxxar a troll post? Cause if he's ACTUALLY town and actually believes what he writes.



Then this is a bad post cause grack sounds like he's sitting with popcorn on the sidelines enjoying the show as town Ruxxar posts completely bogus theories. Which is scummy cause it points to Grack tmi, especially since he should be living in a world where HF can be mafia since his latest read was:



So this points to Grack knowing HF was town at that point.
Also no read on Darthfoley whatsoever in gracks filter but he feels like it's worth posting when it's funny to make fun of Ruxxar posting super unlikely reads.

On June 17 2017 22:16 Vivax wrote:


Not to those who still think you can be mafia no

On June 17 2017 22:30 disformation wrote:
rels engaging annul and pushing him about the vote thing looks good.
but i am really not sure about taht xata read.

On June 15 2017 08:53 Rels wrote:
ruxxar if you're town you need to come and talk to me

On June 17 2017 23:23 sicklucker wrote:
i think when someone claims when under pressure there mostly just mafia. especially in an open setup. if this was a closed setup id give him another day but meh

On June 17 2017 23:45 sicklucker wrote:
I recently gave a complete list go to the start page and click my filter

On June 18 2017 00:17 darthfoley wrote:
Hopefully it's as simple as Xata into SL.

Also why the fuck is this game dead when there's 19 people alive lol

On June 18 2017 00:37 sicklucker wrote:


same

On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at

On June 18 2017 03:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
I got really.drunk last night and am.very very slowly catching up. I'm just at the xata cop claim now

On June 18 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have to postpone the reading until night. I am still tired from mid-week and already fell asleep. I'll wake up 3 am so i have a couole of hours before work. Thankfully my schedule is much better after tomorrow.

On June 18 2017 01:06 sicklucker wrote:
whats it really matter both of your names are like two people off. pretty sure it was the top one

On June 18 2017 04:03 darthfoley wrote:
RuXxar is either a friendly townsperson ke the biggest buddier in mafia history lol

On June 18 2017 04:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good thing we kill Xata

bye

On June 18 2017 06:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
Wait he claimed cop?

On June 18 2017 06:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
cop claim
no cc

##vote disformation

Or, vote ruxxar, the guy who believes the cop claim, then goes on to lynch someone else over the red-check.