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Waiting on that apology from btdt.
So basically, cop check either Skynx or any of the scummy people on annul's wagon.
Xata being the rb is actually sick. There's probably still a Godfather somewhere hiding, but at least we know the cop can't be blocked.
If for some reason the vigi didn't take the shot last night, take it tonight. Maybe even claim your shot so you don't shoot the cop check? Idk. Probably doesn't matter considering we aren't likely to have a vigi (unless it was one of the AFK people, for example.)
Would appreciate a medic save cuz I'm super duper town. Unless you wanna WIFOM it up. But better to be safe than sorry
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And the Damdred modkill makes our lives easier. At least we don't waste a lynch/check on an AFK town.
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On June 19 2017 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote: tier 1 bad day 1 voting
fecalfeast
tier 2
rels, grackaroni
tier 3
eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy
there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least.
Agreed. Can you explain why FF is tier1 bad voting?
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On June 19 2017 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 08:09 darthfoley wrote: Waiting on that apology from btdt.
So basically, cop check either Skynx or any of the scummy people on annul's wagon.
Xata being the rb is actually sick. There's probably still a Godfather somewhere hiding, but at least we know the cop can't be blocked.
If for some reason the vigi didn't take the shot last night, take it tonight. Maybe even claim your shot so you don't shoot the cop check? Idk. Probably doesn't matter considering we aren't likely to have a vigi (unless it was one of the AFK people, for example.)
Would appreciate a medic save cuz I'm super duper town. Unless you wanna WIFOM it up. But better to be safe than sorry
skynx actually comes out of this looking surprisingly good, he was 2nd/3rd vote on xatalos which is when a wagon really starts. either a well timed bus or hes just town. Getting a cop check on him would mean annul wagon could be 100% clean though, hes really the only sketchy one there
Exactly. Like if we can clear the Xata wagon as 100% town, it basically means the mafia were super desperate and probably had 4 votes on annul.
But yea, framer blablabla WIFOM. Or we could just lynch Skynx and prove it the old fashioned way.
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On June 19 2017 08:12 disformation wrote: be a bit careful with checks though. might have a framer.
If there's actually 5 mafia, I would be very surprised if there wasn't a framer
RB GF Framer Goon Goon
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On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 1 annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflaresicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivaxmarvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood Skynx (1): VayneAuthority ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annulTumblewood (0): ruXxarPalmar (0): sickluckerraynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, TumblewoodPalmar (0): Koshi, Skynxbeentheredonethat (0): KoshiEversince (0): sickluckerNot voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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On June 19 2017 08:24 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 08:12 ruXxar wrote:On June 19 2017 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote: tier 1 bad day 1 voting
fecalfeast
tier 2
rels, grackaroni
tier 3
eversince, vivax (?) his voting is odd but not necessarily scummy
there has to be 2 mafia in fecal/rels/grack/eversince at the least. I'm interested in the FF case. Please elaborate. Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 02:52 Fecalfeast wrote: I know xata is a name being thrown around as scummy but i admit i haven't even checked his filter 😎 starts day tunneling a ruxxar lynch that never happens, xatalos is also on this train. switches purely to save xatalos at this point, zero explanation. Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 04:58 Fecalfeast wrote: I could vote skynx. Xatas filter isn't great but it doesn't seem scummy to me. He does a lot of commenting on other people's posts but does post a bunch of reads before he goes afk which is helpful vague post later about his filter, no reason to read it they are on the same team Show nested quote +On June 17 2017 03:15 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 17 2017 03:12 Holyflare wrote: I'm willing to let ever live for a bit at least. We have to kill xata and sl ( and ruxxar) first anyway still tunneling ruxxar even though it makes little sense at this point, with token low hanging fruits added nonexistant day 2, majority of his filter is day 1 I would be surprised if he wasnt scum honestly
Hmmm. Interesting case. I didn't really ever understand why people were hard TRing him D1. I think it was Vivax/disformation iirc but idk
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On June 19 2017 08:38 Vivax wrote: lol @ VA trying to push mafia on FF.
He's probably mafia just for that tbh
Question: is there anyone who's actually Town in this game? Cuz all you seem to do is bitch about people generating discussion and call people "probably mafia"
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Good to know I'm not on the town list even though I'm the main reason the roleblocker is dead. Makes sense
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On June 19 2017 08:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 08:51 darthfoley wrote: Good to know I'm not on the town list even though I'm the main reason the roleblocker is dead. Makes sense You are being toxic you know that?
Fair enough. Just feel like you've been overly obstinate with me for no reason. But it's a two way street, so I'll lay off.
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On June 19 2017 08:54 darthfoley wrote: Btdt is scum btw
I'm deadly serious about this btw
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On June 19 2017 08:58 disformation wrote: vivi prolly town. remind me to explain later. could you explain the btdt scum read?
Yes. Give me a minute
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On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 1 annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflaresicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivaxmarvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood Skynx (1): VayneAuthority ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annulTumblewood (0): ruXxarPalmar (0): sickluckerraynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, TumblewoodPalmar (0): Koshi, Skynxbeentheredonethat (0): KoshiEversince (0): sickluckerNot voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
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So, firstly. Let's see who btdt votes for during this entire voting cycle: Koshi, and Koshi only. Who's town. That's only a minor point, however. What's more interesting is if you take a look at BTDT's filter, specifically revolving around Xatalos. I've spoilered it to keep my post condensed, but I've basically control+F'd "Xata" in his filter.
From the beginning:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 20:30 beentheredonethat wrote: Xata you're not saying anything in your posts, you're just commenting on things and speculating about 3rd party
that's superbad Xata starts out as "superbad." Then, I pressure both Xata with my vote, and I pressure btdt to put his money where his mouth is and join me. On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote: Let me do this: ##vote btdt - Focused on a very small part of this thread. - Reads seem more opportunistic than real. - Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.
I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.
so I a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course) c) call out annul d) poke xata * and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn * a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread. how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever. While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons? On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote: alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. This makes it real simple. Lynch eversince. If green, lynch sicklucker. Guaranteed 1 scum down. How is this an intelligent plan at all? #3 to say that (I think, maybe more) darth comes on the town pile. If he's the third person to say it why is he town?? TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect So passive aggressive but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, [darthfoley] also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too Cool. We both don't like Xata. And Btdt is town reading me in part due to our mutual scum read on Xata. I've placed my vote on him already. Btdt hasn't. On June 14 2017 22:58 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 22:54 darthfoley wrote:On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote: Let me do this: ##vote btdt - Focused on a very small part of this thread. - Reads seem more opportunistic than real. - Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.
I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.
so I a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course) c) call out annul d) poke xata * and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn * a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread. how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever. While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons? We mindmelded at almost the same time about Xata. Simply put, his filter is basically him trying to make friends and say nothing about everything. On June 14 2017 16:42 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote: good morning everyone!
omw to work yada yada etc.
agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour. dont understand why xata is voting rayn. hf had first post so hes basically conf. town. might sheep onto hoshi later. df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.
hrre is hoping for a slow day at work. Strong first post. I like You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting? Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there. First post conf town, goos shit there. Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other?? Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter. Very good post here. Haha.. Indeed it's quite nothing in the guise of something. Buddy post that doesn't accurately depict what Skynx's post was actually about ruXxar. I feel like he also gave Koshi two too many posts about how Koshi caught him with the smiley thing. It just felt as if he gave that off hand comment too much attention (three posts in total). On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote:Skynx: true, ruxxar's +1 is more blendy than disfo's vague list, especially in reaction to said list.. very meh disfo: that's pretty.. detail-focused it'd be very funny if he turned out to be SK or something (I think that was a possible role?) followed by On June 14 2017 17:47 Xatalos wrote: TBH I don't think it tells much of anything though I know it's early but his whole filter has been filler. Hardly any stances taken. The ones he's taken have either been retractable, misconstrued (like the skynx post) or buddy attempts at various "town leader" type people. In my position, I would've said something along the lines of "oh my bad, I misread the point of your post..." but he just rolled with the mistake +1 I like this and it reflects what I'm thinking as well. Nice! BTDT likes my case, and it reflects what he's thinking as well. So BTDT "generally favors" my idea to vote/lynch Xata, and likes my case! So what's he waiting on with his vote? Good question. On June 14 2017 23:39 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:On June 14 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 23:15 Damdred wrote: @HF I have feelings about koshi. I don't think he is mafia, could potentially be third party, possibly town. In either case I don't have anything super strong to say he is town.
I do think if rayn is scum koshi can't be, but I'd rather not be bad and rest on that yet.
@btdt, I still think that first sentence is borderline if not fear mongering. Even if you say all the rest that first sentence gives you enough wiggle room to go back on all of the rest. I don't like it. And as for low on hf, he's burned me enough for me to not be in absolutes.
Yeah I'm pretty sure nobody else has every said that HF's scumgame is good. Like, you even imply it in the bolded part. So if you insist on me fearmongering here you'll have to admit that you're doing it too, just in a more subtle way. I think yours is easier to go back on. And subtlety is the spice od life baby. But really I might of missed some of the context of your post trying to catch up. Overall I agree with most of your posts. So let me summarize 1. you point out how I am fearmongering with regards to holyflare 2. you insist that I do it 3. you do it yourself And then you back off of me, saying you "might have missed some of the context" of my post. Damdred comes on the scum pile for now. So Koshi, xata, Damdred. Okay, Xata is officially on BTDT's scum list, with two other confirmed towns at this point. Which fits into the mafia narrative of 2:1 town:parter scum reads, but again, that's minor speculation. On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote: Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.
I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.
Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.
Thats kind of where im at. So, Koshi looks better, and Xata, his scum read looks worse. Remember, BTDT only votes on Koshi this cycle-- even though he's "looking better" while his other scum read is admittedly "looking worse." On June 16 2017 15:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Why it is a good thing Xatalos was 2nd wagon? Alot depends on his alignment votewise. But if you think he is scum isnt it a BAD thing he was a second wagon and not 1st???? I cancelled some plans today so i can focus better on catching up after work. I insta-fell asleep yesterday when i got home. This is why the first bad thing was that annul was lynched over Xata. I think Koshi worked his way up slowly but he didn't make it out of scum range. Nevertheless he wasn't second wagon. Xata was a good second wagon. Because Xata is also among my scumreads. I brought up some points early and I think darthfoley cased him, too, and I agreed with him.
So yes, Xata is a good second wagon. This is directly after the lynch. Notice how he keeps talking about how he cased Xata, etc. But he N E V E R voted on him. EVER. He left his vote on fucking town!Koshi, who he even said looked "better" while confirmed mafia Xata looked worse.
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Now that's what we call a solid fucking case.
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He knew he wouldn't be able to get away with voting town!annul given his filter and scum reads on Xata, but he never committed to the read on Xata, even when it became a 1v1 with one of his three scum reads. Town will ALWAYS vote the wagon of their 2nd highest scum read if their highest scum read wagon isn't happening.
Let's not forget how over explanatory this post was for one sentence of Koshi content, in order to justify his meaningless vote on town!Koshi
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote: I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.
This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way. Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious". Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here. When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.
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Darn. All you EU people and your sleep
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On June 19 2017 10:30 ruXxar wrote: That's a pretty solid case foley, good work.
However, I'm still going to lynch into the people that were on the annul train first.
It's nearly 4AM in Norge. Time to sleep
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On June 19 2017 10:10 Blazinghand wrote: I'm awake and highly American. We should vote btdt and write cases on him and see how angry he gets it's s 10/10 experience
I hope you're town because you're funny lol
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On June 16 2017 06:30 Koshi wrote: I really hope the town within you guys keep a close eye on the thread and do that last minue Xatalos vote. Except for the 3 people realllllyyyy believing he is mafia he got a lot of pushback. rayn as well btw.
and looking at the Xatalos filter he is SUPER FUCKING EASY to vote on if he is town. What a fucking bad filter. So why isn't mafia doing that?
God damn this was a beautiful point. Said so at the time, but it's worth reiterating
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