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Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 27 2017 17:49 GMT
#7
/in
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 02 2017 09:08 GMT
#37
On June 02 2017 16:30 sicklucker wrote:
im sure that was never a thing


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg

You mean like that?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 03 2017 11:40 GMT
#52
I blame marv.
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 12 2017 22:44 GMT
#114
On June 13 2017 06:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can someone put the deadline in time tags i don't know what 19edt means since I'm pretty sure france is more than 1 hour ahead of eastern us time


You can just put 19 EDT in a time tag and get your own.

23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2017 17:59 GMT
#132
Hello
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2017 23:00 GMT
#142
Exceptionally relieved to be town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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June 13 2017 23:02 GMT
#144
##vote koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 13 2017 23:14 GMT
#150
Bed time :D

Vote koshi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 07:00 GMT
#183
Why aren't we lynching koshi yet?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 09:07 GMT
#215
On June 14 2017 17:39 disformation wrote:
short thing on the koshi one liner:
a) imo its a slight difference between saying "nice i gotz them town" and "i am not mafia". since one says "i am totally on your side" and the other says "dont lynch me i am not your enemy". 2nd one referring more to a wish of survival
b) this game might have 3P, so him being not scum might not be good enough =D


Lynch the 3P
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 09:09 GMT
#216
On June 14 2017 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Bwaaaaaaaaa. Almost always I make a "first confirmed town post + I add my gameplan"


Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan.

3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 09:45 GMT
#243
On June 14 2017 18:19 disformation wrote:
@HF: cant tell if serious or not. xD
Do/did you also dislike his opener for similar reasons or what?


The exact reason you stated. Lynch Koshfacemc3Pface.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 09:47 GMT
#244
On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


The problem is you're bad at reading between the lines. Get on holyformation's level.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 09:48 GMT
#246
It was a depressing I'm not mafia but I'm not town post. No koshi fire and fighting spirit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 09:57 GMT
#252
Choo choooo

I think it's relevant that the only post rayn is willing to make after his return that he thought was apt to go out of his way at work to talk about is to pseudo defend koshi's motivations for making that post.

Lynch rayn.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 09:59 GMT
#254
On June 14 2017 18:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:48 Holyflare wrote:
It was a depressing I'm not mafia but I'm not town post. No koshi fire and fighting spirit.

투혼 ((


ㅈㅈ
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 10:18 GMT
#257
Because you said you weren't mafia. I trust you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 10:32 GMT
#259
On June 14 2017 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


The problem is you're bad at reading between the lines. Get on holyformation's level.

The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what?

I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia.


Just took it as if there's nothing better and he does nothing then vote.

Don't ruin this push, vote Kosherhamsandwich.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 10:49 GMT
#261
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 10:51 GMT
#264
On June 14 2017 19:14 Koshi wrote:
But it is pretty mafia that HF is so convinced I am 3p though. He kinda disregarded the fact I could be mafia playing 3P a bit too easily imo.


We need to remember this fine piece of reasoning.


And I didn't forget this. I think you 3p and want to lynch you and if you're mafia playing 3p you'll be lynched. It's the perfect play.

The perfect game.

I am 최종병기
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:13 GMT
#267
But I am town though. I'm gonna destroy all anti-towns.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:24 GMT
#276
On June 14 2017 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote:
But I am town though. I'm gonna destroy all anti-towns.

Why am I anti-town?


Started all depressing.

My push made you realise you didn't start with your town meta.

Got cased super hard by yourself and me about not following meta.

You've done nothing to push game forward.

Absolutely no 투혼.

3P/mafia koshi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:30 GMT
#281
On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


Oh, I absolutely can. I think your post is depressing, yet honest. You admitted it's not your town meta and you didn't say you were town. You're not town but I don't think you're a liar, you're 3P.

Rayn comes in after saying he can't post any more for 16 hours saying he thinks disformation's read is wrong:

On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


But then goes on to talk about the phrasing of maybe later. And also completely miss the point of the post and says he doesn't think you're mafia. So he has effectively misread the intention of the post and soft defended you from an accusation that was never there. All while you ADMIT that you didn't follow your town meta.

So rayn is being sloppy. Which town rayn isn't very sloppy. Aka mafia rayn.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:31 GMT
#283
Two down.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:34 GMT
#285
The crux of rayn is:

Hf/disfo say koshi is 3P.
Koshi says he didn't play like his town meta.
Cased.
Rayn argues that he doesn't think koshi is mafia (no reasoning) and something irrelevant about the phrasing of a disformation post.

Nobody said koshi was mafia. Mafia rayn knows 3P koshi isn't mafia. Gg case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:34 GMT
#286
I, too, am enjoying this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:35 GMT
#287
Let's get 2 wagons on rayn and koshi. Gogo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:36 GMT
#289
On June 14 2017 20:23 beentheredonethat wrote:
koshi is not scum


Good summary of the koshi is 3P case.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:43 GMT
#293
Oooo look at scum rayn run!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:43 GMT
#295
On June 14 2017 20:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 14 2017 20:36 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:23 beentheredonethat wrote:
koshi is not scum


Good summary of the koshi is 3P case.

yeah same logic as rayn applies on me

except that logic is flawed because your vote was interpreted as a scumread on koshi


No it doesn't because rayn isn't you and you didn't even read whereas rayn did.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:45 GMT
#299
On June 14 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I never argued Koshi is town. Why do you have to intentionally twist something i said into something else holyflare?


On June 14 2017 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


The problem is you're bad at reading between the lines. Get on holyformation's level.

The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what?

I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia.


Why throw in the last line then? You instantly discredit any mafia push on koshi for no reason. The case is that he's 3P which you've overlooked.

And now you're saying you didn't argue koshi is town. So this whole last sentence you wrote is pointless shade throwing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:46 GMT
#300
On June 14 2017 20:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 20:43 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:36 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:23 beentheredonethat wrote:
koshi is not scum


Good summary of the koshi is 3P case.

yeah same logic as rayn applies on me

except that logic is flawed because your vote was interpreted as a scumread on koshi


No it doesn't because rayn isn't you and you didn't even read whereas rayn did.

ok lets make a deal

I won't tilt
you get off your high horse


I can't, it's so high I'll get hurt and then we'll lose our biggest asset, me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:50 GMT
#304
:D :D :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:58 GMT
#312
On June 14 2017 20:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
actually I regret saying Koshi is playing to his town meta because he isn't. HF is right that Koshi is not pushing the thread forward but town Koshi does. Koshi is busy defending himself (okay I can understand that) and he's posting "fun" stuff besides


Oh baby, we've got ourselves a town sheeping.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 11:58 GMT
#313
On June 14 2017 20:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


The problem is you're bad at reading between the lines. Get on holyformation's level.

The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what?

I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia.


Yeah, rayn is being very lackluster. I don't even know what mind comes up with this post to defend Koshi. At that point, Koshi was only accused of being 3P....


Good sheep, good vote. I'm proud of you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:05 GMT
#317
That's called a dead end. No mafia, no push.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:07 GMT
#319
Also, nobody is accusing you of being mafia and not having reads. You just are 3P and don't care about them to the same extent to dive and call someone mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:11 GMT
#325
On June 14 2017 21:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also, nobody is accusing you of being mafia and not having reads. You just are 3P and don't care about them to the same extent to dive and call someone mafia.

Waitwaitwait I'm not locked on Koshi being 3p, I'm not sheeping you

I think he can very well be scum


No, sheep me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:12 GMT
#326
That's a really trivial nitpick too. Either way still ends with you voting Ko3Pi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:19 GMT
#333
On June 14 2017 21:14 sicklucker wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet


Excellent. Just know that I am the leader in spirit of this wagon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:29 GMT
#340
On June 14 2017 21:24 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
Choo choooo

I think it's relevant that the only post rayn is willing to make after his return that he thought was apt to go out of his way at work to talk about is to pseudo defend koshi's motivations for making that post.

Lynch rayn.

You guys are lynching rayn cuz of this or am I missing something else?


The rest of the game content maybe.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:40 GMT
#348
On June 14 2017 21:35 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:30 disformation wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night!


soft veteran claim?

blue hunting?


is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that

Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though?

hey annul


who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B.

well you currently have 0 posts on B?
maybe post something about B?
=D


i think the fact that:

A. i am here during this argument and therefore have read all of it; and
B. i do not have a vote down on anyone yet

is indicative of what i think so far

HF has no reason to FOS anyone this early and assigning alignment to him based on that is just WIFOM


So let's just get this out in the open. You don't agree thay Raynpelikoneet has added a line into one of his posts that misconstrued the original case and also defended someome for no reason?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:48 GMT
#350
No, Rayn admits he doesn't think Koshi is town yet so he unnecessarily defends Koshi in his post for absolutely no reason.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 12:50 GMT
#352
But why is he mafia? I thought he was needlessly nitpicky and calling people mafia for irrelevant things so that's very townie of him :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:20 GMT
#371
On June 14 2017 21:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:48 Holyflare wrote:
No, Rayn admits he doesn't think Koshi is town yet so he unnecessarily defends Koshi in his post for absolutely no reason.


That's a misconstruction HF. Saying that someone is disagreeing doesn't mean it's a defense, it's an opinion. By extension I would be defending Koshi as well just for disagreeing with you and disfo?


In a game with no posts in it stating the case has no basis and thus devaluing the push (when he didn't even get the initial case right!) is absolutely poor play, yes.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:32 GMT
#385
The last game isn't over and that player hasn't flipped. Don't talk about ongoing games.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:38 GMT
#392
Wowww this vivax sheep. So good.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:38 GMT
#393
You've really upped your game this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:41 GMT
#398
Well I mean rayn was clearly having no time to play but there will be a shit storm coming and I will have no part in it. Just know that I'm town and any non-civil discourse is purely the other party's fault.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:46 GMT
#404
On June 14 2017 22:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 14 2017 22:41 Holyflare wrote:
Well I mean rayn was clearly having no time to play but there will be a shit storm coming and I will have no part in it. Just know that I'm town and any non-civil discourse is purely the other party's fault.

But what's the whole point in saying "hey, rayn is sloppy" when you admit that he was "clearly having no time to play"?


You're saying he has no fire and can't answer and thus he looks bad. I'm saying nothing of the sort and am pointing out his weird posts.

Your point is just burying him unnecessarily.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:46 GMT
#405
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:53 GMT
#412
On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect


Unnecessary. When a person posts a one line saying nothing but sheeping sentiment then that person is suspicious to me. At least not towny. So, when a person calls that person towny then that's really off to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 13:54 GMT
#413
On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect

So passive aggressive

but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, he also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too


That's a much better explanation though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 14:09 GMT
#427
On June 14 2017 23:00 Damdred wrote:
Hi friends,

I am taking a super simplified approach this game so my posts are not misconstrued.

Rayn is possible scum, his posts lacked the real fire and drive I am use to seeing amd his defense of koshi was bad. His responses to hf were also sort of to tame and accommodating to make me see town.

Btdt has me scratching my head currently, on one hand I did like the posts that koshi pointed out. But one post that was basically fear mongering about hf scum capabilities over rayn left me feeling a bit empty and concerned about his game state.

Ruxxar seems to be commenting on things in a hit and miss style while not really engaging in many back and forth(?). If that makes sense. I'd probably not say scum necessarily but I don't like him.

Xata isn't really being inquisitive or post. Also seems to just want to go with the flow, sort of see this coming from scum xata just super boring.

FF, disf are both sorta strong town reads though. Hf is sort of a moderate to low.

Besides that idk what I'm doing


I am offended, you take that back. I'm null at best.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 14:10 GMT
#429
Why didn't you take a stance on koshi, damdred?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 14:40 GMT
#464
On June 14 2017 23:39 disformation wrote:
was a bit worried about vivi earlier when I was like "are we reading the same game".
starting to feel better.
btdt, df, skynx imo town.
okay with vivi for now. dont mind damdy so far.


Get out of my head.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 14:41 GMT
#465
I like vivax's inconsistency pick up but his annul read is stating the obvious and I seriously get the feeling that a mafia vivax could have just got lucky picking up on the inconsistency.

But that's maximum fear wifom for no reason because I still like it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 14 2017 15:05 GMT
#493
On June 14 2017 23:48 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 23:41 Holyflare wrote:
I like vivax's inconsistency pick up but his annul read is stating the obvious and I seriously get the feeling that a mafia vivax could have just got lucky picking up on the inconsistency.

But that's maximum fear wifom for no reason because I still like it.

True. If mafia gives us townreads like that I am ok with not lynching them for a cycle.


Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Town
TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious.
Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it.
Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had.
Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town.
Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia.
Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.

Town with minus points.
Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action.
Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm

Null
Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.


so you are okay with keeping him around if he is mafia if he "gives town reads like that" -- implying you agree with his town read on me to such a strong extent that even if he is mafia under HF's WIFOM scenario you feel like he is beneficial to keep around................... and then like 2 minutes later you post a reads post and i am not even listed at all?


Oh baby a legit read

And vivax doesn't even feature
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June 14 2017 15:05 GMT
#495
That's a lie nvm.

Annul all gold still
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 15:22 GMT
#507
I take annul's side in annul vs koshi. It is weird to town read vivax for an annul read if he doesn't town read annul.

If he doesn't town read annul after reading vivax's post then he doesn't agree with it in which case it's not a good vivax post (but he says it is!) because it could absolutely be fabricated.

And then all the other town reads are superficial bull shit. And then I'm not even high up or flat null. Bs.
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 15:23 GMT
#508
This isn't a themed game is it? Why would you assume there's bs roles?
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 17:19 GMT
#546
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


when are you going to answer the inconsistency?
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 17:49 GMT
#561
now that koshi has defended ruxxar I'm happy lynch koshi again
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June 14 2017 18:52 GMT
#611
On June 15 2017 03:32 Eversince wrote:
I'm probably going to re-read. In a few minutes.

@HF, when did you back off your Koshi read? I missed it but you seem ok with that lynch again as of p29


I never ever backed off it.

It was rhetorical satire.
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June 14 2017 18:54 GMT
#614
Remind me not to join big games again, just a headache really.
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 18:59 GMT
#618
Koshi case:

Claimed 3p

Admitted not following meta

Didn't do anything real until called out

Town read people based off one post and then someone else's reply with one post

Reads progressions that don't make sense such as btdt being mafia but then town and also mafia. He could have just read filter and come back saying he's town but made a big hullabaloo of quoting posts for no other reason than trying to look good in thread

Weird vivax progression of saying he has good reads but vivax is null. Only because I said it I presume.

Calls rayn post weird but then says I can't have him as 3p and rayn as mafia despite already believing rayn's post is weird.

Who does koshi scum read??

Still has people town because of 1 post in first page of game.

What has he done?
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 19:00 GMT
#620
On June 15 2017 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi case:

Claimed 3p

Admitted not following meta

Didn't do anything real until called out

Town read people based off one post and then someone else's reply with one post

Reads progressions that don't make sense such as btdt being mafia but then town and also mafia. He could have just read filter and come back saying he's town but made a big hullabaloo of quoting posts for no other reason than trying to look good in thread

Weird vivax progression of saying he has good reads but vivax is null. Only because I said it I presume.

Calls rayn post weird but then says I can't have him as 3p and rayn as mafia despite already believing rayn's post is weird.

Who does koshi scum read??

Still has people town because of 1 post in first page of game.

What has he done?


Oh yeh defended ruxxar for no reason too after saying rayn was bad for defending koshi earlier.
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 19:00 GMT
#621
Probably missing a bunch but I'm not even paying attention to half of people's ramblings.
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 19:01 GMT
#623
Who was saying the koshi wagon is too fast? It has 5 fucking votes on it.
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June 14 2017 19:02 GMT
#626
On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Town
TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious.
Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it.

Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had.
Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town.
Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia.
Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.

Town with minus points.
Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action.
Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm

Null
Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.

Holyflare
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#627
Called him ridiculous. Town read.

Ok. Ko3Pi.
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June 14 2017 19:06 GMT
#629
Disformation town for not jumping on a wagon. Could easily be mafia not jumping on a town wagon because he know you can fight back if you're town.

Bad read town koshi wouldn't make.

I told you btdt was doing that crap but you made the flashy string of post quotes after I said that to reach the same conclusion. Nice sheep under the guise of own read.

Damdred posted a list post that didn't particularly say much of anything.

Rest is all mediocre nothingness.
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June 14 2017 19:06 GMT
#630
On June 15 2017 04:05 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
Who was saying the koshi wagon is too fast? It has 5 fucking votes on it.


I think I said that first? And FF too at some point?

Anyways, he does actually have 6 votes already with no true challenger. I thought it was 7 but apparently I was wrong. This doesn't mean he can't be 3P, at all, but it feels like he's sinking a bit too easily if scum.


There's 22 players and it's the first wagon of the game. Hardly a weird thing.
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June 14 2017 19:08 GMT
#632
Oh boy I feel a shit fight occuring.
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June 14 2017 19:09 GMT
#635
And by shit fight I mean a string of well thought out posts highlighting inconsistencies in your reads where you don't equate things equally or put much thought into them.
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June 14 2017 19:10 GMT
#638
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.


So let's just air this out. You're saying I'm town though?

I just want to make it super sure.
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June 14 2017 19:14 GMT
#643
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.




On June 14 2017 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Town
TW town for calling fefe hilariously suspicious.
Fefe town for being ok with that and believing it.

Disformation town for not jumping on my wagon while thinking my opening was potential mafia. Also serious bait was hilarious, big laughs were had.
Beentheredonethat is more likely overeager “wrong” town than active pushing a wrong agenda mafia. And his aggressiveness continues over multiple pages, he is now quite confirmed town.
Damdred is town because his list post is very close to what I could think. Just like his read on me it comes from town and not mafia.
Darthfoley town because pushed the game forward with his Xatalos/Ruxxar posts. And overall is playing really well. Overall playing style he can do it as mafia but I don’t think he is doing it here as mafia.

Town with minus points.
Skynx started out a bit out of place. But picked it up very well. Sassy answer on btdt and loads of action.
Vivax made a pretty good read on Annul. But I don’t like his playstyle atm

Null
Holyflare his vote on me is incorrect. I don’t like how his gameplan feels set up.


tee hee
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#649
On June 14 2017 19:48 Koshi wrote:
rayn I like you. But why are you defending me? imo it is a good place to start. I completely broke meta there. Problem is that I also always make the townpost as mafia. So I could be so easily 3p.

Koshi confirmed bulletproof survivor. I am ok with it.


On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


On June 14 2017 21:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:24 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
Choo choooo

I think it's relevant that the only post rayn is willing to make after his return that he thought was apt to go out of his way at work to talk about is to pseudo defend koshi's motivations for making that post.

Lynch rayn.

You guys are lynching rayn cuz of this or am I missing something else?

rayn had no business "defending" or "discriminating" or "lessening" HF his push on me. Pick the right word. Also rayn did it without really knowing what HF was talking about or if he understood it, gave bad arguments to counter HF.

We expect more and better from rayn so he is under scrutiny.


which is it koshi? do we suspect him or is it suspicious to suspect the suspected?
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June 14 2017 19:22 GMT
#652
I like the inconsistencies
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#658
On June 15 2017 04:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:48 Koshi wrote:
rayn I like you. But why are you defending me? imo it is a good place to start. I completely broke meta there. Problem is that I also always make the townpost as mafia. So I could be so easily 3p.

Koshi confirmed bulletproof survivor. I am ok with it.


On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


On June 14 2017 21:31 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:24 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
Choo choooo

I think it's relevant that the only post rayn is willing to make after his return that he thought was apt to go out of his way at work to talk about is to pseudo defend koshi's motivations for making that post.

Lynch rayn.

You guys are lynching rayn cuz of this or am I missing something else?

rayn had no business "defending" or "discriminating" or "lessening" HF his push on me. Pick the right word. Also rayn did it without really knowing what HF was talking about or if he understood it, gave bad arguments to counter HF.

We expect more and better from rayn so he is under scrutiny.


which is it koshi? do we suspect him or is it suspicious to suspect the suspected?

1. Rayn why you defend me
2.rayn isn't mafia with me cuz I'm totally 3p
3. Rayn defended me which is bad

Whats the inconsistency


Rayn defending me bad.

Koshi says me calling out rayn defending koshi is bad.

Koshi says rayn defending koshi is suspicious and should be looked into.
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 19:34 GMT
#664
I will leave Ko3Pi alone for now.
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June 14 2017 19:34 GMT
#665
On June 15 2017 04:16 Eversince wrote:
HF aside from Koshi being 3p and Rayn being mafia who else? You mentioned Ruxx at one point when Koshi 'defended'? Alls he did was word out the Ruxx tone vs content as he saw it I think.


I have literally read almost nothing anyone else has said that's in between
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June 14 2017 20:13 GMT
#685
I'm not even tunneled one bit
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June 14 2017 21:12 GMT
#733
I'm shooting him so we can wagon someone else like vivax or something.
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June 14 2017 21:24 GMT
#740
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101.
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June 14 2017 21:32 GMT
#746
On June 15 2017 06:26 Koshi wrote:
HF being cancer is nothing new. I am afk when he is in the thread. I'll quickly come back before bed.


Nothing to do with you, precious. Talking about ever.
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June 14 2017 21:32 GMT
#747
On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101.


Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel?


When did she do that? She said I'm setting up rayn for a shit fight to come.
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June 14 2017 21:33 GMT
#748
On June 15 2017 03:34 Eversince wrote:
@Xata- Why is Rayn a good lynch? Somebody sell me on this. I'm not seeing it at all


Does this look like parroting vivax?

Terrible.
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June 14 2017 21:35 GMT
#749
On June 15 2017 03:42 Eversince wrote:
Everything I remember reading stems from the mafia/3p banter.
Then tunneling onto the fact he's not been here.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways, work time now. See you guys in 16 hours or so!


It's just now been 16 hours. I'm going to need a stronger case then "He's not being vocal and leading the town while he's 90% afk! He must be mafia!". That also makes me really question on why people seem to be having such a hard time with point 1. He might just of been skimming to keep somewhat up-to-date. He said he'd explain it and I am worried this will turn into a bickering match instead of that happening.

Holyflare
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June 14 2017 21:35 GMT
#750
Like if you're going to scum read someone at least pretend you've read what they write? Even a little bit.
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June 14 2017 21:39 GMT
#754
On June 15 2017 06:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him?



He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi.
The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p.


This is the last reply you get from me HF cause you're not being productive.
She literally copied what you said about rayn when it's very debatable that it constituted a defense.


You're so absolutely full of shit!

You state she parrots my read like gospel, you find one quote where she outlines "the case" and ignore the seven others where she says she doesn't agree, she doesn't like it, she thinks she can smell a shit fight coming and then call her mafia.

And then you say I'm not being productive that you got called out on bull shit?
Holyflare
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June 14 2017 21:44 GMT
#755
Let me just be real fucking clear. I made all the early game posts as conversation starters. I didn't truly believe koshi was 3p, I just semi believed it enough to make a small push case and get conversations going because nobody was doing shit and getting koshi to be productive isn't a bad thing. The follow up after is semi-legit in that I think his reads are super surface level bull shit.

I don't truly think rayn is mafia like he's implying I think either. I think his "defence" post was bad because it should have been really obvious I was just pushing koshi for conversation (apparently it wasn't) and that line stuck out to me as being wrong in the context of discussion.

Now that's cleared up maybe we can move on.
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June 14 2017 21:47 GMT
#757
Fecalfeast why does vivax say Ever has been parroting my rayn read like gospel but she hasn't done that once?
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June 14 2017 22:05 GMT
#759
On June 15 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
I don't truly think rayn is mafia like he's implying I think either. I think his "defence" post was bad because it should have been really obvious I was just pushing koshi for conversation (apparently it wasn't) and that line stuck out to me as being wrong in the context of discussion.

Hopefully you got some super good reads out of that and i will hear about them tomorrow, otherwise you just have succesfully wasted half of D1 into nothing...

Now sleepytime.


How did I waste any time? I made no vote on you and people responded to it in a rather lackluster fashion which I can't be bothered to read. Simple thing is that it gave lots of posts and information and if you're town then even more so for you because people were sheeping it.
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June 14 2017 22:09 GMT
#760
Anyway regardless I kind of agree with your disfo post even if we did agree on many things. He has a lot of throwaway one liner reads with no reasoning attached that I don't like.
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June 14 2017 22:14 GMT
#763
Did vivax run away?
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June 14 2017 22:20 GMT
#769
On June 15 2017 07:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
Did vivax run away?


If you want me to engage with you, you have to post townreads cause I'm not getting pestered by you sticking up for eversince when you don't have a read on me.


Like this is quite literally nothing to do with sticking up for eversince and instead is getting a read on you.

You state one of your biggest scum reads in the game is eversince because she copies the thread and parrots what I say and basically has no ideas of her own AND treats my rayn read like gospel.

When in fact:

The one post you quoted is in reference to a question on why people are interested in rayn.

She says she doesn't like the read and doesn't agree.

She forms her own opinion on koshi based on his response to me. Which was absolutely the best response. My push should be scummy to koshi.

She thinks I'm posting and looking for shit fights and rayn is next one.


None of those things say anything about parroting the thread, following my rayn read like gospel or being sideline.

So why do you say it when she's yoir biggest scum read?
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June 14 2017 22:23 GMT
#770
Your biggest scum read, or at least most mentioned one, is factually false vivax. So, did you get it wrong and misremember or are you maintaining it's still the case that she's doing those things?
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June 14 2017 22:27 GMT
#772
I didn't even know you were in the game
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June 15 2017 06:15 GMT
#807
I mean I have absolutely no idea how nobody has mentioned this vivax thing I brought up.
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#808
On June 15 2017 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 07:16 Vivax wrote:
On June 15 2017 07:14 Holyflare wrote:
Did vivax run away?


If you want me to engage with you, you have to post townreads cause I'm not getting pestered by you sticking up for eversince when you don't have a read on me.


Like this is quite literally nothing to do with sticking up for eversince and instead is getting a read on you.

You state one of your biggest scum reads in the game is eversince because she copies the thread and parrots what I say and basically has no ideas of her own AND treats my rayn read like gospel.

When in fact:

The one post you quoted is in reference to a question on why people are interested in rayn.

She says she doesn't like the read and doesn't agree.

She forms her own opinion on koshi based on his response to me. Which was absolutely the best response. My push should be scummy to koshi.

She thinks I'm posting and looking for shit fights and rayn is next one.


None of those things say anything about parroting the thread, following my rayn read like gospel or being sideline.

So why do you say it when she's yoir biggest scum read?


On June 15 2017 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
Your biggest scum read, or at least most mentioned one, is factually false vivax. So, did you get it wrong and misremember or are you maintaining it's still the case that she's doing those things?

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June 15 2017 06:17 GMT
#809
The guy's list of scum reads is forced as fuck and based on points that don't exist in this game.

He's also uncharacteristically not calling me mafia for calling him out.
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June 15 2017 06:39 GMT
#811
On June 15 2017 04:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:27 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on.
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

but as fefe pointed out:
On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
[quote]

Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.


For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.


who do you think is scum?

I'm kinda looking at you tbh.


Look at me as much as you like, but why?

I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in.


I like your attitude.

I think EverSince falls into that category and whats aggravating is that she took what HF said about rayn at face value (which can happen when you skim and just copy other peoples opinions).


Eversince jumped up the scum charts quickly since she claimed to be caught up but I think she copied a lot of the thread instead of getting some own opinion. IE the part where she just repeats what HF said.


On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101.


Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel?


On June 15 2017 06:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him?



He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi.
The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p.


This is the last reply you get from me HF cause you're not being productive.
She literally copied what you said about rayn when it's very debatable that it constituted a defense.



1. She "parrots" what I say because someone asked once what the "case" against rayn was.

2. She never agrees, she in fact disagrees.

3. She forms independent reads.

Does this look anything like vivax said?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 06:40 GMT
#813
Now that you can clearly see it's not what her filter looks like at all then just realise this is Vivax's biggest scum read. He's too clinical this game without the bite and tinfoil of his town game.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 06:40 GMT
#814
On June 15 2017 15:39 Xatalos wrote:
Could you quote where Vivax says those things HF? Sorry it's hard to filter. I do vaguely remember he said that "gospel" thing though and it doesn't seem to match what ever said.


Above
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 06:47 GMT
#819
On June 15 2017 03:34 Eversince wrote:
@Xata- Why is Rayn a good lynch? Somebody sell me on this. I'm not seeing it at all


First mention of read, doesn't agree with case.

On June 15 2017 03:42 Eversince wrote:
Everything I remember reading stems from the mafia/3p banter.
Then tunneling onto the fact he's not been here.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways, work time now. See you guys in 16 hours or so!


It's just now been 16 hours. I'm going to need a stronger case then "He's not being vocal and leading the town while he's 90% afk! He must be mafia!". That also makes me really question on why people seem to be having such a hard time with point 1. He might just of been skimming to keep somewhat up-to-date. He said he'd explain it and I am worried this will turn into a bickering match instead of that happening.


Questions people's reads.

On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia.


Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.
That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con.

This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns.

The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed.


Calls out koshi's bs read. She doesn't agree with the rayn points, looks like a shit fight is going to happen and I've been shit fighting with koshi. Says that's what is happening and that's my scum meta so why is it that Koshi jumps to me instantly being town? Good post.


She still could be mafia though :D in fact quite likely but the fact vivax is posting this nonsense about her rayn read is so bs. It shows he doesn't care about finding mafia because he simply doesn't know what his own main reads are doing.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 08:27 GMT
#832
I feel like people aren't acknowledging this vivax bs. It's very clear.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 08:33 GMT
#834
Disfo why you been ignoring me for ages?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 08:42 GMT
#839
On June 15 2017 17:39 Koshi wrote:
Keep ignoring him. Towns best pages in this game were when HF wasn't here. Let's build on that.


Keep on keeping on and ignoring blatant contradictions then.

Holyflare
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June 15 2017 08:46 GMT
#844
Yes, right, she's confused why koshi town reads me when all I've done is my mafia meta. About 6 people call her out on that post for absolutely undisclosed reasons and then vivax has tagged her onto his scum list multiple times for falsehoods.

It shows he's not reading the game at all. Have you read his filter? It's almost entirely him jumping in to defend 60% of people's scum reads.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:00 GMT
#855
On June 15 2017 17:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:26 Vivax wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him?



He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p.


Already pointed out as being a misrep by HF. Disagreeing on a read doesn't mean I'm defending said person, it just means I'm not going to vote that person for said reasons.

And the mafia/3p thingy is just a bad argument from the get go. Rayn is mafia cause he doesn't put a /3p when he says that the reasons don't make Koshi mafia/3p? Cmon


EverSince said rayn made 1 sentence in a post defending Koshi.
It's what HF said and something I argued against all this time.
Conclusion: She just assumed HFs version of events instead of realizing that like me and rayn said, rayn was disagreeing with a read and not defending anyone.

Now HF is basically the only person who is able to make a little thing like this into a giant pile of bloated BS like he's trying to.

And Xatalos can be mafia for sucking up to him in a semi concerned tone about it, which is what I was on the lookout for..


No she fucking didn't say that at all. Ff asked what the case was and ever stated what MY case was. Where in this sentence OR ANY OF HER FILTER does she say she agrees with the case?
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June 15 2017 09:01 GMT
#856
On June 15 2017 17:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 17:54 disformation wrote:
@vivi: oh you werent talking about the rayn thing at all?
this is what i meant with:
On June 15 2017 17:39 disformation wrote:
the thing that confuses me about vivi on ever is that he doesnt talk straight at/about her, but in this roundabout way to grack.

On June 15 2017 17:39 disformation wrote:
as that doesnt make it perfectly clear what exactly he is referring to



No the moment she posted in thread I pointed it out that rayn didn't defend anyone. THat's basically the rumour HF has tried to let become a fact in his awful push on rayn. And Eversince didn't read properly or formed an own opinion instead of just copying what HF said about that and that's what I called her scum for.

On top of it she didn't even bother replying.


Like this is so bull shit. She never once agrees with me, she does the EXACT OPPOSITE lol.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:03 GMT
#858
It's so unbelievably bull shit. You're on another planet. She disagrees with that read and doesn't even say rayn is mafia once, she just states the case.

And
Disagrees
With
The
Whole
Premise

While you push she's doing the opposite and hasn't formed her own opinion????
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:05 GMT
#861
On June 15 2017 18:02 Vivax wrote:
I never said she agreed with the case (A), I said she copied your opinion that rayn defended Koshi (B).

You are pushing me by misconstruing B into A. Just like you misconstrued rayn disagreeing into a defense of Koshi.

Basically talking to HF/listening to HF = massive waste of time.


If someone asks for what the case is and someone responds stating the details of the case from a player's perspective but then disagrees with that player's perspective and says so multiple times then why is it scummy and why are you pushing it like it's scummy?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:08 GMT
#862
Like ok if she stopped after that post and said absolutely nothing else this entire game then that is scummy. But she didn't, she said she disagreed that him saying koshi isn't mafia makes rayn mafia. She disagreed that rayn is scum for afk. Not once did she say she supported the argumentation that rayn is mafia for defending. It's in fact QUITE the opposite conclusion.

Then she's worried I'm setting up rayn to shit fight when he returns and that's my mafia meta. So she's concerned how koshi can jump to me being town after doing in his eyes my mafia meta.

These are all quality posts. And none of them are the bull shit vivax is spouting.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:10 GMT
#864
Yes it's ok to ignore factually incorrect posts that the person is stil pushing as truth while defending the entirety of the game.
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June 15 2017 09:10 GMT
#865
Good plan koshi
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June 15 2017 09:16 GMT
#868
On June 15 2017 17:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 17:54 disformation wrote:
@vivi: oh you werent talking about the rayn thing at all?
this is what i meant with:
On June 15 2017 17:39 disformation wrote:
the thing that confuses me about vivi on ever is that he doesnt talk straight at/about her, but in this roundabout way to grack.

On June 15 2017 17:39 disformation wrote:
as that doesnt make it perfectly clear what exactly he is referring to



No the moment she posted in thread I pointed it out that rayn didn't defend anyone. THat's basically the rumour HF has tried to let become a fact in his awful push on rayn. And Eversince didn't read properly or formed an own opinion instead of just copying what HF said about that and that's what I called her scum for.

On top of it she didn't even bother replying.


On June 15 2017 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:34 Eversince wrote:
@Xata- Why is Rayn a good lynch? Somebody sell me on this. I'm not seeing it at all


First mention of read, doesn't agree with case.

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:42 Eversince wrote:
Everything I remember reading stems from the mafia/3p banter.
Then tunneling onto the fact he's not been here.

On June 14 2017 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways, work time now. See you guys in 16 hours or so!


It's just now been 16 hours. I'm going to need a stronger case then "He's not being vocal and leading the town while he's 90% afk! He must be mafia!". That also makes me really question on why people seem to be having such a hard time with point 1. He might just of been skimming to keep somewhat up-to-date. He said he'd explain it and I am worried this will turn into a bickering match instead of that happening.


Questions people's reads.

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia.


Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.
That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con.

This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns.

The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed.


Calls out koshi's bs read. She doesn't agree with the rayn points, looks like a shit fight is going to happen and I've been shit fighting with koshi. Says that's what is happening and that's my scum meta so why is it that Koshi jumps to me instantly being town? Good post.


She still could be mafia though :D in fact quite likely but the fact vivax is posting this nonsense about her rayn read is so bs. It shows he doesn't care about finding mafia because he simply doesn't know what his own main reads are doing.

Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:18 GMT
#869
Has her own opinion.

Disagrees with my case.

Doesn't copy my opinion at all, quite the opposite.
Thinks everything I'm doing is my mafia meta and confronts koshi why he doesn't think so. So using her read of rayn beinf buried under my spam to confront koshi.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:19 GMT
#870
On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:
yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out.


Correct.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:19 GMT
#871
Vivax this would go a lot more smoothly if for once you just admit you're wrong and move on with another read. I don't mind if you call her mafia for something else, I can see it. The way you're pushing her now is scummy as fuck though so admit you're wrong and let's see what happens?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:20 GMT
#872
Just a "sorry I totally misread the context, you're right Holyflare!" please
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June 15 2017 09:26 GMT
#875
On June 15 2017 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
Like ok if she stopped after that post and said absolutely nothing else this entire game then that is scummy. But she didn't, she said she disagreed that him saying koshi isn't mafia makes rayn mafia. She disagreed that rayn is scum for afk. Not once did she say she supported the argumentation that rayn is mafia for defending. It's in fact QUITE the opposite conclusion.

Then she's worried I'm setting up rayn to shit fight when he returns and that's my mafia meta. So she's concerned how koshi can jump to me being town after doing in his eyes my mafia meta.

These are all quality posts. And none of them are the bull shit vivax is spouting.

Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:28 GMT
#877
On June 15 2017 03:34 Eversince wrote:
@Xata- Why is Rayn a good lynch? Somebody sell me on this. I'm not seeing it at all


Like this is literally 10 minutes after your post
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:30 GMT
#879
So, yes, I can see her being mafia adapting her reads and forming with sentiment from vivax etc but to state she has no opinion when all she did was answer an FF query with what he asked for is bad. I'd say all her posts after that go quite against sentiment actually calling out rayn bs case.

But she could still be mafia for all of that.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:33 GMT
#880
This is what you're effectively doing vivax:

The world of the orange sky.

1. I say the sky is blue and make a case why.
2. Fecalfeast ask what the case on the sky colour is that everyone is sheeping.
3. Eversince states my case that the sky is blue.
4. You enter thread and say, wait, but the sky is orange!
5. Eversince says she can't see why the sky is blue and here are the reasons.
6. You say she copied my opinion that the sky is blue when in fact she thinks it's quite green.

That easier?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:43 GMT
#883
Look, believe it or not vivax I do want to work with you and maybe less so Koshi so I genuinely want to have a discussion with you and see why you're saying it like you are. It would help if you could do what I did with the orange sky to make it look like your perspective on events. And I mean really really it would help me a lot and then we'd get on a whole lot nicer and maybe even be able to lynch ever.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:54 GMT
#886
I don't I just haven't moved my vote. Please do what I asked vivax, I do genuinely want to get on with you.
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June 15 2017 09:55 GMT
#887
I still think he's 3P though :D
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 09:59 GMT
#889
Please tell me where it's misconstrued. Vivax's post will clear things up in that regard.
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June 15 2017 10:09 GMT
#896
On June 15 2017 19:06 Vivax wrote:
I think I would be happy with an eversince lynch today. Feels kind of dickish to lynch someone who rarely plays but mafia is mafia.

That huge post reads like she's arguing that HF is mafia pushing Koshi to watch town burn from his golden throne but never actually calls HF mafia. Even in the tl;dr post all we get is an argument for HF being able to be both and we're supposed to draw our own conclusions from

Show nested quote +
HF thinks Koshi is anti-town. Decide HF motive yourself. Koshi needs to be more vocal about his opinions. If Koshi gets lynched by the town for not being productive then fine. If he gets mis-lynched because thread sentiment makes it easy


Which btw looks like a Koshi town spew deluxe.

Show nested quote +

(after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.)


And this line in the first big post is just lulzy. Openly thinking about how to get townread, ok? Seems like a feeling of regret for not being around to get into the town pile.


The thing I don't like about the post after reflection is that she thinks koshi is still town and doesn't ever say I'm mafia.

Either way, please do what I asked, pleaseeee.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 10:10 GMT
#897
On June 15 2017 19:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 19:06 Vivax wrote:
I think I would be happy with an eversince lynch today. Feels kind of dickish to lynch someone who rarely plays but mafia is mafia.

That huge post reads like she's arguing that HF is mafia pushing Koshi to watch town burn from his golden throne but never actually calls HF mafia. Even in the tl;dr post all we get is an argument for HF being able to be both and we're supposed to draw our own conclusions from

HF thinks Koshi is anti-town. Decide HF motive yourself. Koshi needs to be more vocal about his opinions. If Koshi gets lynched by the town for not being productive then fine. If he gets mis-lynched because thread sentiment makes it easy


Which btw looks like a Koshi town spew deluxe.


(after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.)


And this line in the first big post is just lulzy. Openly thinking about how to get townread, ok? Seems like a feeling of regret for not being around to get into the town pile.


The thing I don't like about the post after reflection is that she thinks koshi is still town and doesn't ever say I'm mafia.

Either way, please do what I asked, pleaseeee.


Like ok if she thinks I'm scummy but then is majorly concerned koshi calls me flat out town but to say he's still town/3p instead is just really weird.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 10:18 GMT
#901
Yeh I read her old games and it's full of one liners and partisan posts so it's kind of a coin flip. But there's just one thing vivax has to do to vindicate himself here and it should be easy for him. Please do it vivax.
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June 15 2017 10:22 GMT
#902
Literally takes like 30 seconds and the headache that is me goes away for a few cycles so you can do your thing uninterrupted.
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June 15 2017 10:22 GMT
#903
On June 15 2017 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
Look, believe it or not vivax I do want to work with you and maybe less so Koshi so I genuinely want to have a discussion with you and see why you're saying it like you are. It would help if you could do what I did with the orange sky to make it look like your perspective on events. And I mean really really it would help me a lot and then we'd get on a whole lot nicer and maybe even be able to lynch ever.


Please respond.
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June 15 2017 10:32 GMT
#905
On June 15 2017 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
This is what you're effectively doing vivax:

The world of the orange sky.

1. I say the sky is blue and make a case why.
2. Fecalfeast ask what the case on the sky colour is that everyone is sheeping.
3. Eversince states my case that the sky is blue.
4. You enter thread and say, wait, but the sky is orange!
5. Eversince says she can't see why the sky is blue and here are the reasons.
6. You say she copied my opinion that the sky is blue when in fact she thinks it's quite green.

That easier?


This is what is happening in my world.

Is your world different?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 11:09 GMT
#911
On June 15 2017 19:59 Koshi wrote:
ruxxar played as mafia twice and got endgamed twice on day 6.


Got well carried though.
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June 15 2017 11:10 GMT
#912
On June 15 2017 20:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
On June 15 2017 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
This is what you're effectively doing vivax:

The world of the orange sky.

1. I say the sky is blue and make a case why.
2. Fecalfeast ask what the case on the sky colour is that everyone is sheeping.
3. Eversince states my case that the sky is blue.
4. You enter thread and say, wait, but the sky is orange!
5. Eversince says she can't see why the sky is blue and here are the reasons.
6. You say she copied my opinion that the sky is blue when in fact she thinks it's quite green.

That easier?


This is what is happening in my world.

Is your world different?


Yes.
That the sky is your rayn read and it has nothing to do with what I pointed out.
Cause what I pointed out is the notion that rayn defended koshi


So did she? That she didn't agree.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 11:31 GMT
#914
I mean someone asked what it was and she posted the correct answer, nothing more to it than that. I do think it's a bit opportune to have the rayn read after that though when she has the case already in front of her eyes and showed it to ff.

So at least we can agree to that.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 11:31 GMT
#915
I'll lay off you. Thank you. Seriously I genuinely mean that, don't like arguing.
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June 15 2017 12:30 GMT
#924
I'm really sad marv didn't get to play. If there's one thing I thought pre-game it was "I hope marv is town so I can play with him and he doesn't afk into oblivion" but I guess that isn't the case. Probably what happens when we don't get confirmation pms but whatevs.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 12:39 GMT
#927
I never said it was before though
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June 15 2017 12:40 GMT
#929
I'll do some reading and actually look at other people in this game later. Didn't pay attention to anyone yet.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 14:46 GMT
#955
I honestly have no idea how I'm town read by 90% of the game tbfh.
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June 15 2017 14:48 GMT
#956
Xatalos, at least the only post I've read of him in regards to vivax, was very much comment on a thing and have no conclusion (was it him that said he town read vivax but couldn't remember why?) and then leave again.
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June 15 2017 15:00 GMT
#959
Go away Ko3Pi.
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June 15 2017 15:02 GMT
#960
On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote:
This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.

Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes.
I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there.
Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today.
I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.

Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince

btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post.
It'd be nice if VA actually played.
TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either.
Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read.
I don't like annul from first impressions.

Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.


If it's a stretch why am I in your town circle though? Koshi is weird to you and he isn't but now calling me town is a stretch, so I should be similar to a Koshi read, but I'm in your town circle?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 15:03 GMT
#962
On June 15 2017 21:49 Skynx wrote:
I like Eversince, he seems interested in the game and got engaged pretty quick on his arrival.

Rels posted reads which is nice.


Also where is Eversince interested in the game? Who are Eversince's scum reads? Or even town reads for that matter.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 15:11 GMT
#965
On June 16 2017 00:06 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote:
This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.

Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes.
I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there.
Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today.
I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.

Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince

btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post.
It'd be nice if VA actually played.
TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either.
Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read.
I don't like annul from first impressions.

Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.


If it's a stretch why am I in your town circle though? Koshi is weird to you and he isn't but now calling me town is a stretch, so I should be similar to a Koshi read, but I'm in your town circle?

You're right he actually should be there. Thing is, you play like this all the time. Koshi is an absolute town leader when he is motivated and town. He rolled mafia like 4 times where he played totally different to how he normally plays, so his mafia play is out there, while writing that list i was thinking like "ok lets put him null for now and identify him tomorrow or something".


What I'm saying is why am I in your town circle when you just said calling me town is a stretch?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 15:14 GMT
#967
I want read lists from xatalos and Eversince so I can decide that we just lynch marv.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 15:16 GMT
#968
Actually no I won't lynch marv. I want him to at least post goodbye and we might get Blazinghand instead.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 15:40 GMT
#972
I don't town read him at all, quite the opposite. Severe lack of free town reads from him this game.
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June 15 2017 15:46 GMT
#976
Another guy hard town reading me after he got carried by me as mafia dodging a red check and knows my capabilities. Would lynch ruxxar.
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June 15 2017 17:13 GMT
#1003
That's what you get for ignoring me.
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June 15 2017 18:38 GMT
#1084
On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

Grack - I know he has posted but for the life of me can't think of what he posted about or what his reads are. Not good. I just checked his filter and he gives no original reads he just comments on posts, defends ruxxar and throws vague suspicion at darth.

Marv - i have played as scum with marv on my team and he didn't play at all and got lynched day 1 with no fight

Scumish list:

Tw - his townlist looks totally arbitrary
HF - I know I called him town earlier but he has spent the majority of the game participating in shitfights which I'm not a fan of
Ruxx - honestly I don't mind his recent posting I just don't want to be wrong lol

I've been on the toilet for like 15 mins doing this post so i should go back to work


And that's the correct read people should absolutely have on me.

People that don't and are 3p/mafia: ruxxar/koshi/skynx/xata(?)/some other people.

All above are bad looking ppl
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 18:43 GMT
#1093
On June 16 2017 03:23 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 03:21 Skynx wrote:
Annul, can you post some thoughts on someone who is not Koshi or Ruxxar?


HF is strongly town


And another guy lol
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June 15 2017 18:47 GMT
#1107
I don't think annul is a great vote but I also don't care enough to stop that.
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June 15 2017 18:48 GMT
#1109
I don't remember disformation's posts this game and that's odd to me since he's the obs warrior that spams non stop. He also feels not conversational but rather posting points and leaving? Is that just me?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 18:49 GMT
#1111
Ff is my top town and I haven't even read his filter yet.
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June 15 2017 18:52 GMT
#1123
Did you read xata's filter and conclude something before you voted him disfo? Where are the posts?
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June 15 2017 18:55 GMT
#1126
On June 16 2017 03:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Did you read xata's filter and conclude something before you voted him disfo? Where are the posts?

Welcome to 10 minutes ago.


I don't see the name disformation on this post. Maybe rolling not town has sent you into a stupor.
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June 15 2017 18:57 GMT
#1128
So why didn't you vote xata?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 19:02 GMT
#1133
Yeh asking for someone to post more information implies you don't have anything on him and want more information or a read on that person
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June 15 2017 19:02 GMT
#1135
On June 16 2017 04:02 Koshi wrote:
I am going to eat something


A bullet tonight courtesy of yours truly.
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June 15 2017 19:04 GMT
#1138
I'll tell you why we have 8 no votes. Scum team gets rolled marv says fuck this not again I'm not playing, mafia team gets super demotivated and tries to post a few things in the thread but is really disheartened and eventually stops posting too. Mafia team all afk.
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June 15 2017 19:13 GMT
#1150
Not a lawyer
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 19:14 GMT
#1151
On June 16 2017 04:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
I'll tell you why we have 8 no votes. Scum team gets rolled marv says fuck this not again I'm not playing, mafia team gets super demotivated and tries to post a few things in the thread but is really disheartened and eventually stops posting too. Mafia team all afk.

You are doing all their posting for them though.


When do i become actually mafia?
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June 15 2017 19:43 GMT
#1201
When do I start becoming mafia koshi?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 19:47 GMT
#1207
It's because he has a list of unqualified town reads that when he somehow rereads don't exist again
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June 15 2017 19:48 GMT
#1209
On June 16 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

Grack - I know he has posted but for the life of me can't think of what he posted about or what his reads are. Not good. I just checked his filter and he gives no original reads he just comments on posts, defends ruxxar and throws vague suspicion at darth.

Marv - i have played as scum with marv on my team and he didn't play at all and got lynched day 1 with no fight

Scumish list:

Tw - his townlist looks totally arbitrary
HF - I know I called him town earlier but he has spent the majority of the game participating in shitfights which I'm not a fan of
Ruxx - honestly I don't mind his recent posting I just don't want to be wrong lol

I've been on the toilet for like 15 mins doing this post so i should go back to work


And that's the correct read people should absolutely have on me.

People that don't and are 3p/mafia: ruxxar/koshi/skynx/xata(?)/some other people.

All above are bad looking ppl


He's in my list, it's legit.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:02 GMT
#1234
On June 16 2017 04:50 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Scumlist:
Annul - very little contribution, out of everything that's happened he decides to focus on a ruxxar post that has been called out multiple times. Worried about being scumread by ruxx more than finding scum.

Grack - I know he has posted but for the life of me can't think of what he posted about or what his reads are. Not good. I just checked his filter and he gives no original reads he just comments on posts, defends ruxxar and throws vague suspicion at darth.

Marv - i have played as scum with marv on my team and he didn't play at all and got lynched day 1 with no fight

Scumish list:

Tw - his townlist looks totally arbitrary
HF - I know I called him town earlier but he has spent the majority of the game participating in shitfights which I'm not a fan of
Ruxx - honestly I don't mind his recent posting I just don't want to be wrong lol

I've been on the toilet for like 15 mins doing this post so i should go back to work


And that's the correct read people should absolutely have on me.

People that don't and are 3p/mafia: ruxxar/koshi/skynx/xata(?)/some other people.

All above are bad looking ppl


He's in my list, it's legit.

ah that one. huh.
why not annul and why ruxxar then?
and how am i not a bad looking ppl?
can i be ppl?


Annul is in it. Did you call me super town?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:03 GMT
#1235
On June 16 2017 04:52 darthfoley wrote:
HF can I get like 2-3 names of people you'd be comfortable lynching atm? I feel like I should know who you want to lynch right now but I don't.


Nah I'm taking a break from day 1.
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June 15 2017 20:05 GMT
#1239
On June 16 2017 05:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:52 darthfoley wrote:
HF can I get like 2-3 names of people you'd be comfortable lynching atm? I feel like I should know who you want to lynch right now but I don't.


Nah I'm taking a break from day 1.

Thank you God. I knew you were real.


I'll return after I've shot you.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:11 GMT
#1245
You guys should be lynching sicklucker though. When was the last time he:

A) Cared about a day 1 lynch.
B) Pushed his read day 1 and wants to lead a wagon.

+he doesn't even know what Xatalos has actually posted and instead said he posted unconventional reads so is town, which isn't true in the slightest.
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June 15 2017 20:12 GMT
#1246
On June 16 2017 05:11 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:07 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:05 disformation wrote:
hoshi:
why xata over annul?

- annul is annoying and sumg. Xata isn't.
- annul pretends better than Xata that he is finding mafia.
- probably meta
- darthfoley

mh. first two overlap with my impressions from reading annul's filter. (i also posted that)
no idea about meta. do you mean annul's meta or xata's meta. care to elaborate?


also: can someone point out that skynx thing? i feel blind/stupid af, but I cant find it.


He doesn't realise he's new page. Check 2 pages ago.
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June 15 2017 20:21 GMT
#1261
On June 16 2017 05:18 Koshi wrote:
btdt is also meh and potential mafia.
hf same I guess.


Holy fucking shit. There's no backtracking now boy, you've gone and done it.
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June 15 2017 20:21 GMT
#1262
On June 16 2017 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 04:52 darthfoley wrote:
HF can I get like 2-3 names of people you'd be comfortable lynching atm? I feel like I should know who you want to lynch right now but I don't.


Nah I'm taking a break from day 1.


koshi is probably not getting lynched. you have no horse in the race between anul and xata?


You
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June 15 2017 20:22 GMT
#1265
On June 16 2017 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
You guys should be lynching sicklucker though. When was the last time he:

A) Cared about a day 1 lynch.
B) Pushed his read day 1 and wants to lead a wagon.

+he doesn't even know what Xatalos has actually posted and instead said he posted unconventional reads so is town, which isn't true in the slightest.


Feel free to join this wagon. Only the pros need apply.

##vote sicklucker
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:23 GMT
#1267
Inb4 diverting wagon from mafia
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June 15 2017 20:28 GMT
#1274
On June 16 2017 05:27 Vivax wrote:
I'm just going to do the unthinkable and sheep HF at the end of the day if I don't change my mind for some reason.
Would really prefer to lynch Eversince/Ruxx but most peope won't so the last option is posting more or sheeping and I cba to post more when ppl openly admit to not reading.


Wow who r u?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:29 GMT
#1275
On June 16 2017 05:28 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
You guys should be lynching sicklucker though. When was the last time he:

A) Cared about a day 1 lynch.
B) Pushed his read day 1 and wants to lead a wagon.

+he doesn't even know what Xatalos has actually posted and instead said he posted unconventional reads so is town, which isn't true in the slightest.


Feel free to join this wagon. Only the pros need apply.

##vote sicklucker

are u voting sl for doing things?


You know it.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:29 GMT
#1276
On June 16 2017 05:28 Koshi wrote:
Maybe Xatalos is the only person that is mafia out of the 4. That would make sicklucker a bit more likely mafia.


If sicklucker is mafia xata is likely town because of sl's bs read. You don't call a team mate town for wrong reasons.
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June 15 2017 20:31 GMT
#1280
On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


Such a bs read
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June 15 2017 20:32 GMT
#1284
On June 16 2017 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:28 Koshi wrote:
Maybe Xatalos is the only person that is mafia out of the 4. That would make sicklucker a bit more likely mafia.


If sicklucker is mafia xata is likely town because of sl's bs read. You don't call a team mate town for wrong reasons.

you vote sicklucker for doing things but you don't think it is to save a teammate or w.e the fuck. Good analysis.


Yeh, I don't. Now what?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:32 GMT
#1285
On June 16 2017 05:32 Vivax wrote:
I'm really just fed up with everyone doing their own thing then a bunch of derpies coming in and hurr, yolo vote this yolo vote that and not care about trying to build up a bit of unity in the town.

Or DF who thinks hes entitled to ask me questions but apparently doesn't want to read my filter and engage.

So I'm just going to sheep HF, maybe rayn, maybe Palmar depending on who cares the most or something like that.
As long as it looks like there's a train of ppl and not just a bunch of solitary ones in little bubbles.


If you lynch sl then you're sheeping me AND palmar. Double whammy.
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June 15 2017 20:42 GMT
#1298
On June 16 2017 05:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:35 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:34 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:33 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:32 Vivax wrote:
I'm really just fed up with everyone doing their own thing then a bunch of derpies coming in and hurr, yolo vote this yolo vote that and not care about trying to build up a bit of unity in the town.

Or DF who thinks hes entitled to ask me questions but apparently doesn't want to read my filter and engage.

So I'm just going to sheep HF, maybe rayn, maybe Palmar depending on who cares the most or something like that.
As long as it looks like there's a train of ppl and not just a bunch of solitary ones in little bubbles.

lol you are mad people don't listen to you while you don't listen to those people. funny


I listen to DF I pick apart his posts and comment on individual parts that interest me.
I just don't have the same reads as him.

I have commented a lot on your scumreads rexx and Ever.
People think different things. From the active people everybody read what you said.


I think townreading Eversince is a very long shot from you when all I can remember is that you said shes trying to help or something. All mafias want to look like they're trying to help and they don't really want to get into shitfights.

DF also said what he found bad/odd about her cause I asked him and then concluded nothing with it and completely shut down from my inquiries since nobody helps me out with forcing a response out of him.

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 22:09 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 21:21 Vivax wrote:
Do you have any opinion on Eversince, darth?


Your argument with HF has gone over my head and it's been clogging up the thread so my only read comes from a quick read of her(?) filter.

All the filter is is early defending of rayn against a wagon on him, then moderating HF v. Koshi. I have no idea what Eversince believes of the other 19 players in the game. She feels super disconnected from the thread.

She's on the scummier side, but also perfect example of potential lynch bait. I'm still more comfortable with other people D1 lynch because her filter doesn't feel like she's pushing any sort of agenda tbh


I legitimately think this is a bad post and DF doesn't have a real read on ES and kind of leaves it wishy washy.


I don't mind the post at all. Basically says she's a lurker that's posted, which is pretty scummy but not unknown for town to do.

But his conclusion is wrong. Mafia agenda is just to live so not pushing anything and living is already fulfilling it.
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June 15 2017 20:46 GMT
#1306
Nah never do, now what?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 20:46 GMT
#1309
So?
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June 15 2017 20:50 GMT
#1313
On June 16 2017 05:48 sicklucker wrote:
im acualy just getting spite lynched what a joke. palmars voting me because I thought he was mafia last game and hf is voting me because I lynched him as mafia last game and is probably mafia


Damn, figured me out.
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June 15 2017 20:53 GMT
#1315
All aboard the SL train. Choo choo. Free mafia.
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June 15 2017 20:54 GMT
#1316
This game was a travesty that people weren't forced to confirm before the game started btw. I guarantee that's 60% of the afkers at least.
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June 15 2017 20:54 GMT
#1317
Also rolling mafia.
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June 15 2017 20:56 GMT
#1321
Lol
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 21:05 GMT
#1322
Like 100% of games SL's meta mafia read on me is pushing easy lurkers and now it's somehow pushing all the talky town leaders :D

Pretty funny mafia agenda. Sl is quite literally free mafia flailing after 2 non relevant votes on him.
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June 15 2017 21:06 GMT
#1323
On June 16 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
this is such standard hf mafia bullshit. going after the decent active players instead of the easy lynches. first koshi lynch fails then goes for someone else


This game ^^^^


On August 12 2016 08:58 sicklucker wrote:
na lunatics not mafia I dont think. hf was pushing him day 1. he always pushes weak towns as mafia always



Every other game ever ^^^^^

See his mafia agenda this game? Free vote.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 21:08 GMT
#1324
That was really really sloppy SL. I thought you were better mafia player. Has it been that long?
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June 15 2017 21:08 GMT
#1325
Pretty hilarious dead thread 2 hours before a lynch in a 22 player game
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June 15 2017 21:10 GMT
#1328
The phrase always is a pretty strong indicator that it hasn't.
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June 15 2017 21:29 GMT
#1334
On June 16 2017 06:23 Koshi wrote:
HF you are the main reason this town imploded and didn't get as far as it could so please shut the fuck up. Being mafia would actually be a saving grace for you but you probably are trash town.


and here we see an angry 3p/mafia in his natural habitat
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June 15 2017 21:34 GMT
#1339
koshi doesn't give a shit about this game don't let his posts fool you
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June 15 2017 21:39 GMT
#1344
there's 8 afk it's hardly a good read
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 21:39 GMT
#1345
also is sl pushing anything now? no

he's lock mafia too
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June 15 2017 21:43 GMT
#1348
On June 16 2017 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 06:39 Holyflare wrote:
also is sl pushing anything now? no

he's lock mafia too

with who?


all 8 afkers
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 21:55 GMT
#1369
On June 16 2017 06:51 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 06:48 sicklucker wrote:
can we consolidate on annul koshi? I really dont want to have to vote xata over him if I get 1 more vote


##unvote

##vote xatalos


to save myself and counter this plan of yours.

i would much prefer koshi or ruxxar though -- if anyone will join me there i will go back


you sheeping mafia tho
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June 15 2017 22:05 GMT
#1378
kill sicklucker plz he's so opportunistic
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June 15 2017 22:08 GMT
#1386
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


what an interesting thing to pick up on
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June 15 2017 22:15 GMT
#1410
On June 16 2017 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
this is such standard hf mafia bullshit. going after the decent active players instead of the easy lynches. first koshi lynch fails then goes for someone else


This game ^^^^


Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 08:58 sicklucker wrote:
na lunatics not mafia I dont think. hf was pushing him day 1. he always pushes weak towns as mafia always



Every other game ever ^^^^^

See his mafia agenda this game? Free vote.

Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:17 GMT
#1415
On June 16 2017 07:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:15 annul wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


palmar is spite voting me. no one other then hf and vivax think im scum. Im actively trying to save you right now too I suggest you vote annul with me if you want to live


That seems like a fine place to park my vote for now. I'll be checking what annul has done in the recent hours.


he has lurked not called me scum then tried to get you to vote me for pure survival


no shit, of course i would rather not die even if it means someone else dies instead of my preferred target

like that is priority #1: make sure i do not die

You would rather vote a townread than die? Scummy mindset lmao


not scummy at all???
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June 15 2017 22:19 GMT
#1421
On June 16 2017 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:15 annul wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


palmar is spite voting me. no one other then hf and vivax think im scum. Im actively trying to save you right now too I suggest you vote annul with me if you want to live


That seems like a fine place to park my vote for now. I'll be checking what annul has done in the recent hours.


he has lurked not called me scum then tried to get you to vote me for pure survival


no shit, of course i would rather not die even if it means someone else dies instead of my preferred target

like that is priority #1: make sure i do not die

You would rather vote a townread than die? Scummy mindset lmao


not scummy at all???

I disagree for sure


you would rather not vote your unknown than save a 100% read?

irrelevant anyway, vote sl
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June 15 2017 22:19 GMT
#1422
On June 16 2017 07:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
this is such standard hf mafia bullshit. going after the decent active players instead of the easy lynches. first koshi lynch fails then goes for someone else


This game ^^^^


On August 12 2016 08:58 sicklucker wrote:
na lunatics not mafia I dont think. hf was pushing him day 1. he always pushes weak towns as mafia always



Every other game ever ^^^^^

See his mafia agenda this game? Free vote.


Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:21 GMT
#1435
SL LITERALLY SAID XATALOS ISN'T MAFIA BECAUSE HE HAS DIFFERENT READS

WHERE ARE THE DIFFERENT READS?????????

NOWHERE

THEN HE SAYS IM MAFIA FOR PUSHING HARD READS WHEN HE ALWAYS SAYS THE OPPOSITE

mafia mafia mafia mafia
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June 15 2017 22:23 GMT
#1441
nobody has countered the argument
nobody
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June 15 2017 22:24 GMT
#1446
On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote:
Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL.
EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens
OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then
Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely


explain i'm not reading
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June 15 2017 22:26 GMT
#1458
On June 16 2017 07:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
nobody has countered the argument
nobody

HOLY SHIT SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING INCORRECT.

THAT ALWAYS 100% OF THE TIME HITS MAFIA. WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW

WHY IS MAFIA SO HARD GUISSSSS


great argument on why the guy is mafia
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:32 GMT
#1485
On June 16 2017 07:27 Rels wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:25 annul wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:24 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:22 annul wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:20 Rels wrote:
annul what are your SL and Xata read


xata slight red but not nearly strong enough to base a vote on tbh over other choices

sl is slight town, though the logic behind this (or the inverse) is just wifom city

Then why this ???
On June 16 2017 07:08 annul wrote:
xatalos revote to sicklucker and i will do the same, putting him in the lead




On June 16 2017 07:19 annul wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:17 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:15 annul wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Holy f****. Looks like a pile formed on me.

I'll try to read the recent events since I have a bit of time now until EOD.

Could someone explain why SL is being voted? Also this vote situation looks pretty odd. I'd expect it to be a more heated votecount if we were on the right tracks but votes are all over the place..


palmar is spite voting me. no one other then hf and vivax think im scum. Im actively trying to save you right now too I suggest you vote annul with me if you want to live


That seems like a fine place to park my vote for now. I'll be checking what annul has done in the recent hours.


he has lurked not called me scum then tried to get you to vote me for pure survival


no shit, of course i would rather not die even if it means someone else dies instead of my preferred target

like that is priority #1: make sure i do not die


but why do you prefer me over xata?


i dont, its survival. darthfoley is on xata and he has said he suspects me and wants me to die.

if it is 5-4 xata/me then darth has hammer on me with a swap, and i was trying to prevent that

but it looks like i failed at that



So you're saying this post is a fake and you didn't plan to switch on SL, ytou were just trying to get Xata to NOT vote you ?
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On June 16 2017 07:08 annul wrote:
xatalos revote to sicklucker and i will do the same, putting him in the lead


what's the explanation?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:35 GMT
#1499
On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.

I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it.


nah
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:38 GMT
#1510
On June 16 2017 07:33 annul wrote:
no, if he switched i actually would too, because he could always switch onto me anyway once he figured out i was bluffing if i was bluffing.

like the math is sound. it is ENTIRELY a self preservation move. i do not want to do this; i would prefer other lynches


this is so scummy it's towny
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:39 GMT
#1513
On June 16 2017 07:33 Koshi wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.

I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it.

You are a very very sexy man. HF is mafia with either annul or Xatalos.


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Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:42 GMT
#1525
On June 16 2017 07:39 Vivax wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:38 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:33 annul wrote:
no, if he switched i actually would too, because he could always switch onto me anyway once he figured out i was bluffing if i was bluffing.

like the math is sound. it is ENTIRELY a self preservation move. i do not want to do this; i would prefer other lynches


this is so scummy it's towny


What's scummy?

Is it considered a townie thing now to martyr even though it goes against the spirit of the game?


he's baiting his scum read to switch to a town read so he can vote a town read to survive by bluffing

which is ultimate self preservation and it looks scummy to do that instead of asking other people to switch to save because it's underhanded

but he's explaining it all so it's self-defeatist and towny
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:43 GMT
#1533
On June 16 2017 07:43 Vivax wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Xatalos (5): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul
annul (5): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels
sicklucker (3): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax
Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annul
Tumblewood (0): ruXxar
Palmar (0): sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (6): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Xatalos out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



I'm gonna find every single guy who ignored SL and said Xatalos is mafia cause ppl are not piling on him and call them mafia for the rest of the game with this votecount.


Endorsed.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:45 GMT
#1538
sicklucker let me just ask this, why do you town read xata?
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:47 GMT
#1545
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:48 GMT
#1552
On June 16 2017 07:47 annul wrote:
i am 100% town, xatalos is probably like 60-40% mafia, sicklucker is probably 60-40% town.

if we can last minute pile onto ruxxar i would be happy


this guy isn't mafia
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:49 GMT
#1555
it fucking blows my mind that nobody other than competent town leaders are voting sicklucker
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:49 GMT
#1559
On June 16 2017 07:48 Koshi wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:48 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 annul wrote:
i am 100% town, xatalos is probably like 60-40% mafia, sicklucker is probably 60-40% town.

if we can last minute pile onto ruxxar i would be happy


this guy isn't mafia

Go vote Xatalos. You 3 can save him.


I don't want to vote xata either, the dude is posting reads and I think he can give more
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:51 GMT
#1566
On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy


xata doesn't have a mafia read on rayn, he said he can still be scum but doesn't actually say he scum reads him at all
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:52 GMT
#1571
On June 16 2017 07:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:49 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:48 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:48 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 annul wrote:
i am 100% town, xatalos is probably like 60-40% mafia, sicklucker is probably 60-40% town.

if we can last minute pile onto ruxxar i would be happy


this guy isn't mafia

Go vote Xatalos. You 3 can save him.


I don't want to vote xata either, the dude is posting reads and I think he can give more

Dnu. I don't see the sl vote. And you pissed me off too much today and Vivax can't be trusted.
Palmar I could sheep but doesn't deserve it.

I also believe Xata and Annul are mafia.


oh I wonder who was pushing vivax today but you ignored it all and called it a trash misconstruction and went away

that was you
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:52 GMT
#1576
On June 16 2017 07:52 annul wrote:
"Fact is if annul flips town Xatalos is confirmed mafia."

"I also believe Xata and Annul are mafia."

all from koshi in less than 2 minutes


this guy is 100% going to flip town and i refuse to save him
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:53 GMT
#1578
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:54 GMT
#1583
On June 16 2017 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy


xata doesn't have a mafia read on rayn, he said he can still be scum but doesn't actually say he scum reads him at all


just remember this later ^
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:55 GMT
#1587
my agenda is to lynch mafia
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:55 GMT
#1592
there is no fucking way that after 2-3 years of playing with sicklucker and him calling my meta to a T every single game that he randomly just backtracks and says it's something else and then pushes me as mafia with it
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:57 GMT
#1600
On June 16 2017 07:57 sicklucker wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:55 Holyflare wrote:
there is no fucking way that after 2-3 years of playing with sicklucker and him calling my meta to a T every single game that he randomly just backtracks and says it's something else and then pushes me as mafia with it


im sure I said you went after big fish in that last game we just played where you were mafia. if your town plz look that up


no you didn't at all
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:58 GMT
#1610
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:58 GMT
#1614
On June 16 2017 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
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On June 16 2017 07:55 Holyflare wrote:
there is no fucking way that after 2-3 years of playing with sicklucker and him calling my meta to a T every single game that he randomly just backtracks and says it's something else and then pushes me as mafia with it

Since when is pushing newbies your scum meta. You'll push whoever you find scummy/think you can push.


It's what SL has said is my meta since day 1.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 22:59 GMT
#1620
##vote xatalos
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:00 GMT
#1622
blame mafia SL he orchestrated this somehow
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:08 GMT
#1632
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.

On June 16 2017 07:58 Eversince wrote:
I asked for rough's of what everyone has done and HF is the only person to actually do it. But it's to late for a SL switch so I'm just consolidating.

On June 16 2017 07:57 Eversince wrote:
## vote: Annul


bs bs bs bs bs
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:08 GMT
#1634
On June 16 2017 08:08 ruXxar wrote:
rip


how fucking convenient
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:10 GMT
#1642
I don't believe eversince returns to the thread and hasn't read anything, wants opinions on who to lynch AND THEN:

Says I'm the only one to produce content on SL but the reason she's not going to switch to SL is that he can't be lynched
Then votes on SL's wagon
doesn't join her only stated town read of the games wagon Koshi
Even contemplates lynching SL when she makes posts that basically say I'm mafia all game without really saying it
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:11 GMT
#1645
we 1000000000000000000000000000% lynch sicklucker tomorrow
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:11 GMT
#1648
also

marvellosity (1): Tumblewood


this guy
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:12 GMT
#1651
On June 16 2017 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
I don't believe eversince returns to the thread and hasn't read anything, wants opinions on who to lynch AND THEN:

Says I'm the only one to produce content on SL but the reason she's not going to switch to SL is that he can't be lynched
Then votes on SL's wagon
doesn't join her only stated town read of the games wagon Koshi
Even contemplates lynching SL when she makes posts that basically say I'm mafia all game without really saying it



^^^^^^^

this is absolute mafia talk about this and nothing else
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:18 GMT
#1667
koshi is without a doubt 3P
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:36 GMT
#1691
On June 16 2017 08:34 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 08:33 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 08:23 Koshi wrote:
3)Palmar
5)disformation
7)Tumblewood
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
20)sicklucker
22)Eversince

So this is my list still. I am not yet putting HF in it. Weird I know. If Xatalos is town the 5 mafia are still in this list. I am somewhat tempted to take sl out :d


You know how many mafia there are?

wait wat how u know its 5 scum?


Sliiiiiiip
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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June 15 2017 23:37 GMT
#1693
On June 16 2017 08:36 Koshi wrote:
17 vs 5
16 vs 5
14 vs 5 after N1
13 vs 5
11 vs 5 N2
10 vs 5
9 vs 5 N3
8 vs 5
7 vs 5 N4
6 vs 5
5 vs 5 after N5

Makes sense.


Quick do the math now to retroactively make your slip look good.
Holyflare
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June 15 2017 23:39 GMT
#1696
Watcher watch me. Bad shit gonna happen to me guaranteed. Only voice of reason here.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 06:20 GMT
#1715
I mean I thought fecal was switching to xata so I thought I could yolo hammer. Turns out he didn't.

I also don't see what the problem with trying to get sl lynched is at all. I thought he was, and still think he is, mafia. His xata read is based entirely off xata scum reading rayn which xata doesn't even do. When told this and he saw annul being towny he was quite complacent just sitting still on the wagon.

Also ruxxar how come you ignore my case on Eversince? I think it's an incredible case. Where did Eversince go now?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 06:22 GMT
#1716
On June 16 2017 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 16 2017 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
I don't believe eversince returns to the thread and hasn't read anything, wants opinions on who to lynch AND THEN:

Says I'm the only one to produce content on SL but the reason she's not going to switch to SL is that he can't be lynched
Then votes on SL's wagon
doesn't join her only stated town read of the games wagon Koshi
Even contemplates lynching SL when she makes posts that basically say I'm mafia all game without really saying it



^^^^^^^

this is absolute mafia talk about this and nothing else

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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June 16 2017 08:10 GMT
#1743
On June 16 2017 16:28 Koshi wrote:
There is a chance Xatalos is town due to a couple people being jackasses. I can write so many stories with possible scenarios atm. I hope I will stay alive till lylo but that is an impossible dream. Oh well.

HF are you the mafia puppeteer or town siding with mafia with every post you make :D
I am the most interested in that because it would be so incredible if you push mafia agenda like you are doing as mafia. That would really be quite amazing. I would respect that.


Voting your wagon and saying Eversince is mafia is mafia agenda?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:15 GMT
#1746
Sl will without a doubt flip mafia
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:17 GMT
#1747
He only started playing when xata up for lynch. Afkd when he wasn't and then returned when it was.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:34 GMT
#1750
On June 16 2017 17:20 Koshi wrote:
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On June 16 2017 17:17 Holyflare wrote:
He only started playing when xata up for lynch. Afkd when he wasn't and then returned when it was.

YUMYUM unflipped association. So tasty. n0mn0mn0mn0mn0mn0mn0m

Problem is townies do completely retarded things and push mafia agenda unknowingly. It is the mafia who try to abuse that fact. And why do you skip lynching the mafia Xatalos in this story?


Don't get me wrong, SL could be mafia, but you hardpushing sl for defending an unflipped player is hilarious.


Nothing to do with unflipped association, what are you smoking? That's the objective truth. Regardless of Xata's alignment, SL only appeared when xata was in danger. This is the only game where I've ever seen SL care enough to play and also push something.

He was also told his reasons to town read xata were false. He also said annul was towny. What did he do then? Stayed on annul.

Perhaps you should ask why he so vehemently wanted to kill annul or why he town read xata? I guarantee you'll be underwhelmed.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:36 GMT
#1752
And now you're just going to post some nonsense about that only making sense if xata is mafia but it doesn't. Now he's pushing for xata to be flipped because of being a counter wagon. If he flips town then SL has killed 2 birds with 1 stone and looked good for being someone to push a lynch.

If he's mafia then he saved his mafia partner.

Both mafia SL worlds
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:48 GMT
#1754
On June 16 2017 17:43 Koshi wrote:
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On June 16 2017 17:36 Holyflare wrote:
And now you're just going to post some nonsense about that only making sense if xata is mafia but it doesn't. Now he's pushing for xata to be flipped because of being a counter wagon. If he flips town then SL has killed 2 birds with 1 stone and looked good for being someone to push a lynch.

If he's mafia then he saved his mafia partner.

Both mafia SL worlds

So you don't think this Xatalos is m33k as fuck? You townread the guy?


No, I do think he's being useless and essentially posted the bear minimum at deadline that said nothing so is likely mafia.

But independently of that SL is mafia. I was just preempting your bull shit follow up posts saying more crap about unflipped associations nonsense.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:50 GMT
#1755
Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:50 GMT
#1756
Probably tw
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 08:52 GMT
#1757
3P: koshi/palmar

How many 3Ps are there?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 09:04 GMT
#1762
On June 16 2017 17:53 Vivax wrote:
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On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Probably tw


No really, when he's just in his own little word placing terrible lonely votes he's likely town.


You think he's anything like the last game AT ALL?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 09:16 GMT
#1769
On June 16 2017 18:06 Vivax wrote:
HF if Xatalos is mafia, who are the 4 mafia on annuls wagon?


I've given you my list of mafia.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 09:17 GMT
#1770
On June 16 2017 18:15 ruXxar wrote:
I'm very afraid for DF. He's very very likely to be a mafia kill tonight.

He's basically 100% confirmed town in my eyes, and is very dangerous to the mafia.

I really hope we can somehow make him live through the night somehow.


Yes, senior bus driver.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 09:35 GMT
#1776
If I must try and lead town I will. I was having fun not doing it and you lynched a really towny looking guy that was led by mafia instead.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 09:41 GMT
#1781
Koshi is 3P, I'm telling you. He makes reads but he doesn't care about pushing them properly or defending townies. He's just commenting with no vigour in the background and simultaneously the foreground.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 09:44 GMT
#1784
Just shoot him then.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 09:51 GMT
#1788
What do you think of tw this game in comparison btdt?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:02 GMT
#1792
On June 16 2017 18:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 16 2017 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
What do you think of tw this game in comparison btdt?

Lemme look

Comparison to Generic II?


Yes

Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:27 GMT
#1805
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


And why am I mafia when I tried to save my town read at the end of the day, repeatedly told people annul was town and tried to get people off the wagons?

And why is sicklucker not mafia again?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:32 GMT
#1809
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
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On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Read my case, she's well scummy.

Basically:

She hadn't put a vote down all cycle and miraculously appears at deadline to vote and afk again.

She has spent 0 of the game calling anyone mafia.

Her only read which she doesn't even explicitly state is koshi is town/3p and by virtue of that post me as mafia trying to shit fight rayn/koshi.

She comes back and sees my case on SL (me, her mafia read) and instead of saying no because she thinks I'm mafia she says no because there's not enough time to kill SL.

Then, since she is implying she agrees with the SL case but won't vote him she votes for the exact wagon SL started!!! She had a choice between sheeping her town read koshi on his wagon or following a wagon with her new found appreciation for SL being mafia. She sheeps that one instead.

Then she leaves again.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:33 GMT
#1812
On June 16 2017 19:29 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:27 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


And why am I mafia when I tried to save my town read at the end of the day, repeatedly told people annul was town and tried to get people off the wagons?

And why is sicklucker not mafia again?


I think sl could well be mafia. I explained earlier why I didn't like your EoD


But your post was wrong because I gave you new information. I thought FF was switching to xata so take my vote as a hammer.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:34 GMT
#1816
On June 16 2017 19:32 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Did you even read EoD or what I posted earlier?

1. ES comes in thread like 20 min before flip
2. Asks to be caught up
3. Thanks HF for catching her up (seems like a friendly TR)
4. HF is screaming from the top of his lungs not to lynch xata
5. ES ignores the only person who caught her up and hammers annul with the important 7th vote


Didn't happen even once.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:35 GMT
#1818
On June 16 2017 19:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Read my case, she's well scummy.

Basically:

She hadn't put a vote down all cycle and miraculously appears at deadline to vote and afk again.

She has spent 0 of the game calling anyone mafia.

Her only read which she doesn't even explicitly state is koshi is town/3p and by virtue of that post me as mafia trying to shit fight rayn/koshi.

She comes back and sees my case on SL (me, her mafia read) and instead of saying no because she thinks I'm mafia she says no because there's not enough time to kill SL.

Then, since she is implying she agrees with the SL case but won't vote him she votes for the exact wagon SL started!!! She had a choice between sheeping her town read koshi on his wagon or following a wagon with her new found appreciation for SL being mafia. She sheeps that one instead.

Then she leaves again.


Why are you trying to convince me that ES is mafia when I was trying to push her from the start?


Because you said something false, that her eod wasn't that bad.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:36 GMT
#1820
I think it's by far worse so that's where our differences lie.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:45 GMT
#1826
On June 16 2017 19:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
hf you asked me to compare tw to generic tw which I did. what do you draw from this now?


I meant newbie :D
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:45 GMT
#1827
Why you spreading lies about me df?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:47 GMT
#1828
Ruxxar why are you just talking incessantly about mafia night actions and how df is gonna die?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:50 GMT
#1830
And now you know that I wanted to hammer xata with FF. Does that not change your thinking?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 10:51 GMT
#1832
And you're sheeping my ever case too :D
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 11:06 GMT
#1845
On June 16 2017 20:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:54 Koshi wrote:
annoy btdt. The guy is 100% mafia.

what the fuck is wrong with you

cry cry whine whine


Attack arguments, not players.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 11:07 GMT
#1847
On June 16 2017 07:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
I can't stay on this wagon with ruxx xata sl and grack sooo I'm gonna hop onto xata

On June 16 2017 07:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Still haven't done it i was hoping to bait someone to hammer


I was baited.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 11:09 GMT
#1848
On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn


Such a good post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2017 11:35 GMT
#1866
We did it vivax, we got df to get rid of his scum read on us. Time to push agenda now.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 11:36 GMT
#1869
On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx

btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart.


Did you even read newbie though?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 12:22 GMT
#1883
Sicklucker gonna post some boring shit. This is gonna be good.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 12:36 GMT
#1889
On June 16 2017 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
This is my tenitive reads list from most likely town to most likely scum.

Fecalfeast
darthfoley
Rels
disformation
Palmar
Ruxxar
raynpelikoneet
Koshi

^ id be kind of surprised if these guys were scum
btdm
ruXxar
Tumblewood
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Skynx
Vivax
Eversince
Holyflare
marvellosity

I doubt its that accurate since theres alot of people and just started but I thought id share about where my heads at


Nothing has changed. Absolutely 0 things have changed since you independently town read Xatalos based on his play. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Why is he not on your town list?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 12:43 GMT
#1892
You're so full of crap!

On June 16 2017 04:54 sicklucker wrote:
meh I dont think xatas filter is that bad. at least his ideas are unconventional to the thread which I kind of expect his town play


On June 16 2017 07:48 sicklucker wrote:
it kind of makes it easy that all my town reads are voting annul (ff rels ruxxarand to a lesser degree xata)


On June 16 2017 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.


sl came to the thread and town read xatalos because xatalos has different reads to most of the game (when in fact xatalos' reads are blending with the rest of the game

sl says i'm mafia for calling all the town leaders mafia and it's my mafia meta when 100% of other games he states my mafia meta is to push lurkers

sl is trying to force the wagon onto someone who is blatantly self-preserving and revealing his plan for all to see, who stubbornly refuses to change his reads despite everyone yelling at him mafia

sl is mafia


I said that because xata had a mafia read on ryan and everyone else town read him. get over it you lost save your buddy



What has changed since this in any way that changes Xatalos' alignment?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 12:43 GMT
#1893
On June 16 2017 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
to be fair tho I mostly drove the close lynch. and I know im town so from my perspective I dont think xata necessary has to be mafia. but I completely understand people who think he and I am from what happened I might think the same

Holyflare
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June 16 2017 12:45 GMT
#1895
No new evidence has been presented at any point after the lynch to determine Xatalos' alignment. Certainly not since you left. The last post above even still highlights you don't really think he's mafia.

Let me just reiterate. Nothing has changed since you town read him and said these things. Nothing has changed since the flip where you posted xata doesn't have to be mafia. Nothing.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 12:45 GMT
#1896
On June 16 2017 21:43 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:32 darthfoley wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Did you even read EoD or what I posted earlier?

1. ES comes in thread like 20 min before flip
2. Asks to be caught up
3. Thanks HF for catching her up (seems like a friendly TR)
4. HF is screaming from the top of his lungs not to lynch xata
5. ES ignores the only person who caught her up and hammers annul with the important 7th vote


it was weird because es town read me earlier but completely ignored me when I asked her to vote with me ... but still fucking voted with me wtf


This is also factually false. You even go back and quote eS' post and realise she didn't even town read you. "Which is fine" is by no definition a town read of any sorts still.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 12:58 GMT
#1901
I don't give a crap what mafia nonsense you're spouting. You led a wagon on a towny and have absolutely no reason to town read xata. I have MULTIPLE times corrected you that xata doesn't scum read rayn. Which is THE ONLY reason you said you town read Xata despite saying he has opposite readS!! to the thread, you could only quote one and it was wrong.

Then you pushed a wagon on a guy who was not scummy, openly referenced his grand survival plan multiple times and then even you acknowledged he was looking towny.

Then you try and take someone referencing the one troll post you did early game (because let's face it you really did nothing else) as a slight town read because she didn't call you mafia from one post. The thing is she didn't call you town either.

You're worming your way through falsehoods, trying to push events that never happened. Palmar didn't spite vote you from last game, I didn't vote you with no case, vivax wasn't "being bad". All of these are reconstructions of what is actually happening in the game. You even said if palmar was around he'd move his vote but he was around and said he'd keep it there.

Then Eversince comes and has no reason not to vote you. Xatalos' flip will certainly give a shit tonne of information and i hope to god he's town because then her not voting you is the final nail in your coffin.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 13:02 GMT
#1902
On June 16 2017 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
to be fair tho I mostly drove the close lynch. and I know im town so from my perspective I dont think xata necessary has to be mafia. but I completely understand people who think he and I am from what happened I might think the same


This is posted after the lynch. You don't even think it makes him mafia. A contested lynch means shit all. It's mafias job to make lynches mean nothing. It could be two towns, one mafia one town, anything. You haven't once used any information from it to make the reads nonsense you're posting.

You have me in a lynch list with xatalos who you are now calling mafia despite me trying to also hammer him. You have really really bad reads in this list. You have Eversince who has been pushed by vivax for eternity and myself since the flip, no evaluation.

You take bull shit posts and turn it into bigger bull shit reads and have no game sense. This is not the town SL I know that is solving conspiracy theories. This is an sl who more than likely saw his buddy xatalos up for lynch and fabricated nonsense to save him. When was the last time you tried on a day 1? When was there a time you've ever given a shit enough for a day 1 lynch to matter so much over a really thin town read on xata? Never, that's when.

I will make people see the light. Fiery vengeance will rain down upon you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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June 16 2017 13:09 GMT
#1905
I have decided I will never allow myself to be up for lynch this game. I'm going to try my hardest to take all of your partners down.
Holyflare
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2017 14:15 GMT
#1906
Zzzzzz rip me.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 14:22 GMT
#1908
Can always talk about this sl thing
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 14:31 GMT
#1912
On June 16 2017 23:29 Eversince wrote:
I'd be interested in it. I'm still down on pg 60 because I couldn't be bothered to play catch up yesterday after the flip.
So pre-15ish flip/ 2 pg after it.

I'll check periodically


I really think you should catch up :D
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 14:49 GMT
#1918
On June 16 2017 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 18:05 Holyflare wrote:
On June 15 2017 18:02 Vivax wrote:
I never said she agreed with the case (A), I said she copied your opinion that rayn defended Koshi (B).

You are pushing me by misconstruing B into A. Just like you misconstrued rayn disagreeing into a defense of Koshi.

Basically talking to HF/listening to HF = massive waste of time.


If someone asks for what the case is and someone responds stating the details of the case from a player's perspective but then disagrees with that player's perspective and says so multiple times then why is it scummy and why are you pushing it like it's scummy?

Sorry i just have to do this.
That's what you do from time to time. Make things seem like they are not.


For reads bro.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 14:50 GMT
#1920
Koshi is implying that disfo isn't towny looking at this point. I hope that's how you're reading it :p
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 16:41 GMT
#1975
On June 17 2017 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels
Disformation

Xatalos???
Skynx???

Tumblewood??

btdt?

then there are some reads i am not sure of, like plammer and holyflare.


U mad? No Eversince? No sl?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 16:43 GMT
#1979
On June 17 2017 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 01:41 Holyflare wrote:
On June 17 2017 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels
Disformation

Xatalos???
Skynx???

Tumblewood??

btdt?

then there are some reads i am not sure of, like plammer and holyflare.


U mad? No Eversince? No sl?

I honestly just forgot sl.
idk about eversince.

^^


Read my case you pleb.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 16:45 GMT
#1982
On June 16 2017 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:22 Vivax wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:18 darthfoley wrote:
Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm

Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol


Bolded all the townies you're calling scum.

So why has eversince become scum to you now just for EoD stuff? I don't think the posts were that much worse than what she already had posted before so the progression doesn't really make sense.

And lul @ you dying tonight


Read my case, she's well scummy.

Basically:

She hadn't put a vote down all cycle and miraculously appears at deadline to vote and afk again.

She has spent 0 of the game calling anyone mafia.

Her only read which she doesn't even explicitly state is koshi is town/3p and by virtue of that post me as mafia trying to shit fight rayn/koshi.

She comes back and sees my case on SL (me, her mafia read) and instead of saying no because she thinks I'm mafia she says no because there's not enough time to kill SL.

Then, since she is implying she agrees with the SL case but won't vote him she votes for the exact wagon SL started!!! She had a choice between sheeping her town read koshi on his wagon or following a wagon with her new found appreciation for SL being mafia. She sheeps that one instead.

Then she leaves again.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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June 16 2017 17:00 GMT
#1993
You can't have just afkd, that's a bs excuse. You have not voted anyone previously and would have potentially faced mod action.

I don't know a single one of your reads the entire game.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:01 GMT
#1994
On June 17 2017 01:59 Eversince wrote:
And I think it shouldn't matter so much on who I followed to begin with.
If you want to say I'm mafia for voting blind, say that.

But don't say I did/didn't do it because of some read I was holding onto after my first post in thread at deadline was that I was at a point where my opinion didn't matter. I had a vote and it was either blind or no-vote.


In my experience/logical standpoint you blind vote with your town reads.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:15 GMT
#2007
There's no fucking way you think I'm mafia with Xatalos.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:16 GMT
#2008
AND you spent all day 1 calling me town non stop. Nah mateeeee.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:28 GMT
#2016
On June 17 2017 02:23 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i agree sl is mafia.


well

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Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:31 GMT
#2021
So you don't like me any better because i bickered with koshi and vivax and wanted to lynch sl

But you don't like the look of koshi and vivax and sl??
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:31 GMT
#2022
Also now that I'm reminded of it. That skynx read post was reaaaaalllyyy bad.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:41 GMT
#2029
Yes, but that's nothing to do with you and everything to do with me reading vivax. That's all you have to do in these games, understand whether the top town people that can lead town are town and work your way from there. Pointless bickering is absolutely my mafia meta but absolutely none of what I've done this game has been pointless bickering.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 17:42 GMT
#2030
On June 17 2017 02:40 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 17 2017 02:23 sicklucker wrote:
On June 17 2017 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i agree sl is mafia.


well

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Holyflare
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June 16 2017 18:10 GMT
#2036
On June 17 2017 02:53 Eversince wrote:
I don't understand either if you wanted me to consider the wagons as anything more than 'draw straws' The only thing needed to happen would have been accessment of all 3 wagons vs the 1 that I did get. I didn't know there was doubt on Annul until way after the fact.

Why wouldn't you vote to shift someone who you thought was "100% town" or try to lead the claimed blind voter to places you actually wanted?

That's basically the sole reason I just consolidated it instead of picking between the 'follow this if you trust your 30 hr old reads after claiming you weren't going to trust those' or 'SL bullet point'

I didn't get any info on Xata/Annul until I caught up today -.-


You could have read any of the posts around the lynch where I repeatedly said annul was town and sl was mafia and then lynched the guy that is probably mafia and didn't have sl on the wagon instead. Maybe I'm being picky but in my eyes you asked for cases and "consolidated" on a wagon for absolutely no reason other than to put a vote down.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 18:12 GMT
#2037
I'm willing to let ever live for a bit at least.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 18:16 GMT
#2040
On June 17 2017 03:07 sicklucker wrote:
wow koshi might be the best mafia player on this site. him or hf


I taught him everything he knows.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 18:18 GMT
#2042
Yes because that's how I feel :D
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 18:20 GMT
#2048
On June 17 2017 03:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2017 03:07 sicklucker wrote:
wow koshi might be the best mafia player on this site. him or hf

3 wins in a row confirmed.


Try 9 kiddo.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 18:25 GMT
#2053
On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery

I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.

Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax

Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred


Why isn't xata in this list anywhere?

And why am I scum with sl after trying to lynch him?
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 19:48 GMT
#2064
Lol koshi doesn't care he's legitimate 3P
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 20:58 GMT
#2081
I'm gonna get nk. Just kill koshi and sl.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 21:39 GMT
#2091
On June 17 2017 05:59 sicklucker wrote:
only way hf dies tonight is by my gun


We already know you're mafia though.

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Holyflare
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June 16 2017 22:02 GMT
#2093
Good for you. Problem is that you're mafia and you probably have a mafia vig and will claim real vig. Shooting me is a direct mafia claim, I hope you know that. If SL ever claims a shot on me he is 100% without a doubt mafia.
Holyflare
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June 16 2017 22:45 GMT
#2097
No problems, I'll be keeping my eye on that shifty darthfoley
Holyflare
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July 04 2017 18:21 GMT
#6716
So what exactly is a strong arm? A shot that isn't a role that mafia can use whenever and however on any claimed blue?

I think that's kind of bull shit tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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July 04 2017 18:26 GMT
#6723
Lol gf was untrackable too??? :D

If strong arm was an actual role i wouldn't particularly care. Untrackable gf is bad though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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July 04 2017 18:53 GMT
#6742
Anyway balance aside, thanks for hosting. Hope you/your son feel better onegu
Holyflare
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July 04 2017 19:55 GMT
#6772
Whole point of strong arm is to be anti claim to stop the fuckwits that claim d1/d2 that plagued TL for a while. Having it the whole game (not as a role and also as factional so not even delivered!) is already strong. BUT THEN there's the witch thing as well (which is also factional!!!).

The witch should be the only thing mafia should have had to punish early claims. Godfather should also not be untrackable and uncheckable, that's crazy. You just get the gf to send kp all game and he'll never be found making the tracker completely and utterly redundant after n2 for finding mafia (so really a nerfed tracker or one that only finds blues since 100% kp is sent by gf so you can only check mafia doing their actions on non-specifc people which is already mediocre (also I don't think tracker should be allowed to track the same people twice in a row)).

The problem is that this setup was CLOSED with absolutely non-standard roles and abilities but made to look like that it was actually a normal.

town could/should have easily won this game though which is sad even with all the mafia favoured things but a lot of people just didn't care to interact and just yelled or afkd/wanted to auto lynch through a list which has never ever worked in any game
Holyflare
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July 04 2017 20:45 GMT
#6792
Let's not start this whole obs qt SL fiasco again. I think we all know where we each stand.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 04 2017 21:00 GMT
#6806
Yes, let's just agree that mafia had super OP shit and that SL had a red check but did nothing about it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-05 10:16:06
July 05 2017 10:15 GMT
#6816
Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2017 11:42 GMT
#6841
In hindsight rayn is a pretty easy catch when he was hard defending sl (when nobody else was) but then kept asking what the case was. Don't think town rayn wouldn't know what it was ever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2017 13:34 GMT
#6857
On July 06 2017 22:21 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2017 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
tbh i wanted to keep you alive because i knew you would townread me for actually interacting with you. and because of what you just said, your "problem" with your play is that you try to do so much stuff you never get anything done. I never felt like you were a threat regardless of what your reads were since you werent really pushing anything, you were just pointing out stuff. ^^

Also lol at your "wow i almost made mafia strongman me". You are forgetting that was the dude who also wanted to strongman darthfoley after we had checked him as VT..... When you softed vet i was sure you are NOT a vet, anything else but NOT a vet. ^_^

fair enough.
much room too improve etc.
at least i managed to get btdt. xD

also was my first time softing anything to eat scum actions. think i overdid it a bit.
but yeah just wanted to throw it out in the hopes to eat any random action you guys could maybe throw at me.


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