[N] TL Mafia LXXV

On June 15 2017 03:25 Grackaroni wrote:
The strangest thing in thread is the amount of people agreeing with HF's conclusion that Koshi is 3rd party not red based on this(?) opening:

On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:


Sure.

This post:



I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.

On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:

For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.

On June 15 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
Remind me not to join big games again, just a headache really.

On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:

I'm kinda looking at you tbh.

On June 15 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:

^
This.

Now people are killing him because he said his top town read was Sicklucker.

On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.

On June 15 2017 03:25 Grackaroni wrote:
The strangest thing in thread is the amount of people agreeing with HF's conclusion that Koshi is 3rd party not red based on this(?) opening:

On June 17 2017 05:25 ruXxar wrote:


I love how you go from this:






to this:



You tried really hard to distance yourself, and then you just gave it up easy like that.
It's some advanced mafia play for sure, but you are definitely scum together with vivax and HF.
Well played.

On June 20 2017 02:02 ruXxar wrote:


Somehow I feel like that is very unlikely...

On June 20 2017 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:

I haven't been reading any of this.

I'll take a look at the end of day 1 and give my thoughts on that later.

On June 17 2017 05:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Ruxxar is my favorite.

On June 20 2017 06:14 sicklucker wrote:
infor tho. grack played a really really shitty town game in the last game he played. So because of this I dont think hes more likely to be mafia then someone like say rels who made good logic for his vote.

Lower standards you know

On June 21 2017 06:02 Grackaroni wrote:

Why?

On June 21 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:

can you answer the fucking question

On June 21 2017 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think Rels is mafia. Even though I found his reason not to lynch me very strange.

On June 21 2017 06:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Why do you want to kill me so badly again?

Your filter is filled with funny spam lists.

On June 21 2017 06:46 Grackaroni wrote:

So did you...

and you were specifically called out by HF for pushing this lynch since you never push lynches day 1.

On June 21 2017 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:

Xata was in danger at the time that you were starting your push.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to try to absolve yourself from taking any responsibility for the lynch that you championed.

On June 21 2017 07:07 Grackaroni wrote:
We lynched SL in the game where we were scum together.

On June 18 2017 22:24 ruXxar wrote:
[.....]

2) He doesn't try to solve the game.

How many scum reads did he have the whole game? Let's see:

DF:





Disfo:



HF:





"I'm ok with". "Seems like". There's 0 commitment to anything here. Just superficial non-sense without any substance.
So obviously he followed up and actually tried to push his scum reads? Nope.
Well, at least he voted for his scum reads? Nope.

It's like a total non-commitment to any of his "reads" and just screams "I'm just trying to blend in".

On June 16 2017 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Xatalos was pretty meh. I legitimately don't think he has been any more meh than disfo. The one scum game I remember from him he played a very aggressive style.

On June 21 2017 12:46 Grackaroni wrote:

I thought Xata's filter looked pretty bad but not so bad that he would get undue attention compared to some other people. I didn't like that Annul was so confident in his Koshi push because it seemed like he was still pushing Koshi from things that happened earlier in the game rather than considering the additional 10 pages or w/e of Koshi posts that happened after he talked about his read.

On June 21 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:

Koshi posted lots of things since then and Vayne hasn't?

I don't see the point in throwing away my vote when HF wasn't going to be lynched.

On June 21 2017 15:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Tumble do you still dislike Rayn?

On June 22 2017 03:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Wow lots of Sicklucker votes.

Did he say something stupid?

On June 16 2017 07:54 Xatalos wrote:
Wait annul is in the lead now?

Will be interesting to see what votes appear from the woodworks at this stage.

On June 18 2017 22:34 sicklucker wrote:


i think your right about the logic wrong about the people. but ill get to that in a second.

Heres the vote count when I started the annul train. Notice xata is not really at a very high risk of being lynched at this time. The argument that I am mafia for pushing a wagon to save him is false as koshi was the leading wagon at the time and he flipped town. If I was truly mafia trying to save xata why do I not vote koshi. Why do I start a completely new wagon instead of joining one that is already started and has commited votes? Why do I take the longest road to complete my task.

No I am just a town that thought I found mafia. In a close vote between my target and a mafia many mafia saw the opportunity to save there team mate but it was not the people who started the wagon it was the people at the end of it.





these guys are more likely the mafia this is the correct way to use vote logic my friend



I doubt its all four but those four have the highest percentage to be mafia in the game not me.

On June 22 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote:
The short of it is this:

Vote logic tells me that grack and SL are not the same faction.
Who you believe is more scummy is up to you.

On June 22 2017 04:14 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't even think you're overwhelmingly scummy

Not voting Koshi is just not something that clears you from pushing through a day 1 lynch for the first time ever when scum is in danger of being lynched.

On June 22 2017 04:15 Grackaroni wrote:

Continuing on this - anyone that spends the next day arguing that SL needs to die because of vote logic from today's vote has to go.

On May 28 2017 01:37 Onegu wrote:
Important posts:
/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?page=8#141]Day 1
/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?page=82#1629]Night 1
/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?page=106#2111]Day 2


Well they kinda work this way so will stay this way until I figure out a better way of doing things when I am not busy.

On June 22 2017 04:40 sicklucker wrote:


save me senpai

On June 22 2017 04:59 Grackaroni wrote:

WITHOUT ME YOU HAVE NOBODY TO DISTRACT FROM YOUR SHIT POSTING

On June 22 2017 05:01 Grackaroni wrote:
So then we can still hold Blazinghand entirely responsible for the outcome of this lynch.

On June 22 2017 05:11 ruXxar wrote:

??

This is exciting as hell.

On June 22 2017 05:23 sicklucker wrote:
man grack is acting so scummy. if he was town he would care more. hes having way too much fun

On June 22 2017 05:23 Blazinghand wrote:

??? what kind of logic is this, i'm having fun

On June 22 2017 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:

What I dislike about you is that you make smart posts, but you act like you're completely above everything that is happening.

On June 22 2017 05:26 Grackaroni wrote:

?

On June 22 2017 05:32 Grackaroni wrote:

Is that dependent on my alignment?

On June 22 2017 05:27 sicklucker wrote:


sure but if you were grack and about to be mislynched and maybe lose town the game would you be having that much fun?

On June 22 2017 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I can't ignore it because fucking approx 20 people in the game say so, and it's factually incorrect.

On June 18 2017 09:44 sicklucker wrote:
I love the spot im in tho I have mafia right where I want them. they think there going to lynch me tormorow lol. so why do you think im waiting untill tomorrow to try. Its standard sicklucker traps

On June 18 2017 09:49 sicklucker wrote:
Ritoky posted this awile back still no idea why no one else has caught on to this yet

SL - slow starter, strong mid game and strong late game, needs to work a bit on leadership skills as he can sometimes wind up playing second fiddle to a larger personality. has a very unique ability where he becomes a drastically better player the more he gets backed into a corner. 1 moment you think you're going to lynch him, then 2 hours later you're certain he needs to be NK'd or you just realized you fucked up trying to ML him.

On June 22 2017 06:45 Grackaroni wrote:

Again, I hate hypocrites.

-Spends her whole time grilling me about the reasoning behind my vote.
-Voted for Annul because it was either blind or no-vote.

And then bitches that I didn't answer her questions in a satisfactory way.

On June 22 2017 06:59 Chezitwo wrote:


If this comes from town I will be seriously pissed though.

Your day was way townier than sickluckers. But this sucks big time.

On June 22 2017 07:13 Chezitwo wrote:
Because I have this horrible feeling that he is actually town. I would be glad to be proven wrong though.