[N] TL Mafia LXXV
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Sorry that post was really long can we get a TLDR? | ||
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On June 14 2017 08:01 Koshi wrote: I am not mafia. | ||
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You're right it was disfo's argument. I got HF from Koshi's filter. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote: @xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. but as fefe pointed out: For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. | ||
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On June 15 2017 04:08 Holyflare wrote: Oh boy I feel a shit fight occuring. YOU ARE NOT PREPARED | ||
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I'm kinda looking at you tbh. | ||
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With some of the spammers we have in this game, this game could end up longer than the 130 player game that VA was quoting. | ||
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I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in. | ||
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On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote: Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait. It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities. ^ This. Now people are killing him because he said his top town read was Sicklucker. | ||
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On June 15 2017 05:22 Koshi wrote: and don't take it the wrong way Grack but you are being way too prudent and smart. Like... I love the content of you posts a lot but you don't venture in unknown territory yet. New territory. Know-it-all Grack. I can no longer hide my GENIUS. | ||
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That was the impression I got. The closest I could find was you pressuring him over the read and other people calling him out for too easily believing SL's cop claim. Looking over, the main reason people are scum reading him is over saying that he liked Disfo's post, which was kind of a strange post to like because it had no content. But I don't think this is a bad response at all for the post that he made: On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote: It's not the content as much as the tone and structure. Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern. I'd give that a slight town read. I don't think he's mafia. He has a confidence to his posts that I like. | ||
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On June 15 2017 03:27 Fecalfeast wrote: Who quoted this post as evidence? Pretty standard opener And I missed this question from earlier, it was Disfo's thought process. | ||
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On June 15 2017 06:08 Tumblewood wrote: why are so many people voting koshi rn? he seems pretty townie from what i've seen Holyflare push. | ||
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I'm going to focus on the main wagons. | ||
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On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote: not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice. i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas. Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. | ||
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I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:48 disformation wrote: grack comment on the ninja? not complaining though. have a hell of a hard time decicing between annul and xata I don't have much to say beyond what I've said decently in my filter. Annul seems like a better lynch than Xatalos to me. HF push on SL seems a lot more agenda driven than HF believing he has a bulletproof case. | ||
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But don't get me started. | ||
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On June 16 2017 07:55 Holyflare wrote: there is no fucking way that after 2-3 years of playing with sicklucker and him calling my meta to a T every single game that he randomly just backtracks and says it's something else and then pushes me as mafia with it Since when is pushing newbies your scum meta. You'll push whoever you find scummy/think you can push. | ||
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Super disappointing I wanted to see if he had cloned himself. Is there a dual personality thing going on? | ||
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He likes you. | ||
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On June 19 2017 03:36 Palmar wrote: Ill figure out why we're all so happy together tomorrow Where've you been PALMAR? Scummy scum scum. | ||
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On June 20 2017 01:30 ruXxar wrote: If you're not on the lynch grack list by tomorrow, I'll put you in my hot scum ring. If I join the lynch Grack group does that void the Grack lynch? | ||
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On June 20 2017 02:00 Fecalfeast wrote: Hey grack who's scum? I haven't been reading any of this. I'll take a look at the end of day 1 and give my thoughts on that later. | ||
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On June 20 2017 02:03 Chezitwo wrote: You would be surprised how active people get sometimes when you try to lynch them. Like Koshi day 1. | ||
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On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote: Rels is evil! I have no idea, I haven't read much lately. I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing. Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent. On June 16 2017 00:41 Palmar wrote: Btw, if we're killing inactive/modkill-territory people, we kill AMG, not marv. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? | ||
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You probably shouldn't focus overly much on Annul voters. There's probably a greater proportion of mafia in the afk/random-wagon voters. | ||
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I think it's the one where we killed Palmar. | ||
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On June 20 2017 06:58 Rels wrote: but Grack showing he remembered a random post from Palmar means it's likely he's either scum with marv, or not scum. Cause him remembering this random post means he read Palmar's filter (so he's town) or this post stucked to him 'cause marv is his partner. Most likely I read Palmar's filters because they're usually interesting. | ||
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It's not like he was in a hopeless position. All he had to do was make a few good posts rather than calling a red check and quitting. | ||
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Disfo looked terrible but he also has a 26 page filter, most of which I'm probably not going to read. He didn't give a good reason for voting Xata and then when HF and Koshi both called out his vote as suspicious he backtracked saying that he could vote Annul too (after saying that he hadn't read Annul.) Overall, he didn't feel very obs-warriory. He wasn't contributing many of his own ideas during that end of day period. Conclusion: None Vayneauthority was completely disconnected from the thread at the end of the day, dropping a role playing post and then calling out Skynx while making no attempt to convince people of his read. Conclusion: Likely scum I've got to go I can continue this later. | ||
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On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote: va is town dawg. probably. well im more sure on his read then ive ever been Why? | ||
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On June 21 2017 06:04 sicklucker wrote: because at least 3 of the 4 or 5 mafia left are accounted for You're more sure of this read than you've ever been because there are other people who are scummier? | ||
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On June 21 2017 06:18 sicklucker wrote: nope . I dont negotiate with terrorists. at best you can convince me grack or ever is scum today. Today is not about me its about you RUH ROH | ||
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On June 21 2017 06:29 ruXxar wrote: ... You shouldn't be defending rels mate. You should be defending yourself. Shit I better start up my defense. | ||
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Your filter is filled with funny spam lists. | ||
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So did you... and you were specifically called out by HF for pushing this lynch since you never push lynches day 1. | ||
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On June 21 2017 06:45 sicklucker wrote: i love how rels and grack are teaming up when if they were town they would think the other is mafia. obvious team Good luck with that. | ||
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On June 21 2017 06:47 sicklucker wrote: yes and some people on that wagon have to be mafia. why me? I had legit reasons and pushed someone before xata was even up for lynch. but you and rels only showed up and joined my wagon when xata was in danger. Its fucking simple logic. it sucks to fight it as mafia I know Xata was in danger at the time that you were starting your push. I think it's pretty ridiculous to try to absolve yourself from taking any responsibility for the lynch that you championed. | ||
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On June 21 2017 07:00 sicklucker wrote: no I made a big post on this you should read it. he had votes but he was the 4th or a weak 3rd wagon when I started my push. koshi was #1 in votes when I started my push. So if im mafia why do I start pushing a town over another town? I probably don't want to read that lol. The Koshi lynch clearly wasn't going through by that point in the day, so I think that's pretty irrelevant. | ||
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On June 21 2017 07:08 Rels wrote: yeah. By managing to get someone to hammer him, ending the phase early. lol that was Prplhz. He did that completely of his own accord. | ||
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On June 17 2017 09:10 ruXxar wrote: From reading the filters I posted above I'm gleaning this current list: Scum: Xatalos. Rels: his reads are all over the place with no straightforward conclusions. Grackaroni: Theres something about this guy that doesn't feel right. Tumblewood: His reads list is really suspicious. Town: Darth foley. Rayn. FF Vivax Conflicted: SL Eversince Conclusion: Lynch Xata or Rels today. You actually aren't even lynching me for the Xatalos vote. You're just moving down your list from earlier that you got from dead people's filters. | ||
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On June 21 2017 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like literally Rels, you have made a case on Ruxxar that is basically "(1) he is trying to lynch his top scumread with (2) a bad case". Now: What is scummy in (1)? Why is this a bad case: *I took away the "he hammered town" part because that's actually a thing that never makes anyone mafia* Explain me why this is a bad case? I chose more hedgey language intentionally, especially in regard to Annul who I was only looking at because he was one of the vote contenders along with Xatalos. It was a situation where I had to lynch between the two rather than start a lynch on someone like HF. | ||
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From the non-voters: Vayne, Btdt, Tumblewood, Palmar, Chezitwo, Rayn. I don't think any of these non-voting people have been overly townie and there's probably a lot of scum in this group. I really haven't been feeling very motivated this game or the end of the last one and will probably stop playing for a while due to burn out (as either alignment). | ||
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On June 21 2017 12:42 Eversince wrote: Grack why did you push Annul over Xata? I thought Xata's filter looked pretty bad but not so bad that he would get undue attention compared to some other people. I didn't like that Annul was so confident in his Koshi push because it seemed like he was still pushing Koshi from things that happened earlier in the game rather than considering the additional 10 pages or w/e of Koshi posts that happened after he talked about his read. | ||
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On June 21 2017 12:42 Eversince wrote: From that time, what was your thought process that lead up to the Annul choice more than Xata? I don't know. I came back at the end of the day and had to filter to make a choice between the top lynch choices. I didn't think it was all that likely that either would flip scum but I had to make a choice between the two. HF caught my attention because he was being a lot more pushy at the end of the day than he has been in recent games that I've played with him. | ||
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On June 21 2017 12:54 Eversince wrote: That's cutting corners. You thought Disfo's filter was worse than his. Seemed more like you gave him a pass based on "not matching his meta" than a "looked pretty bad" Considering you basically lynched Annul for being tunneled? I thought Xata's filter looked pretty bad but not so bad that he would get undue attention compared to some other people. | ||
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On June 21 2017 13:02 Eversince wrote: Wait wait though, didn't you just post a scum read on VA for something VA did at EOD an entire night cycle and half a day ago? And if you didn't really think either would flip mafia why vote for either then? If you didn't think mafia was in it you should of voted on HF. That's the bigger thing here. You voted on Annul for being tunneled you say then that Xata isn't playing his scum meta, now his filter looked bad but not for the amount of attention that he got. HF you're only scum read that got more than a "meh" labeling out of you was ignored? Why? Koshi posted lots of things since then and Vayne hasn't? I don't see the point in throwing away my vote when HF wasn't going to be lynched. | ||
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On June 21 2017 13:04 Eversince wrote: You're not throwing away your vote if you don't think either is mafia. You're simply not lynching town. Voting on somebody that isn't going to get lynched rather than voting between the two people getting lynched is absolutely a throwaway vote. I don't see how you can argue otherwise. | ||
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If you want to vote for me then just do it. We're not going to accomplish anything with these questions. | ||
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If you're trying to find some inconsistency so that you will look better after voting me, you're just going to look worse after I flip. | ||
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On June 21 2017 15:39 Eversince wrote: Specifically he goes from Votes on Annul for Koshi tunnel. Changes that to include Rux tunnel. Koshi had posted 10 pg filter lala. He's also now scum reading Disfo in the exact same fashion. EoD read says Disfo is mafia despite the fact Disfo has a ton of post since then but he's not going to read them. Using Grack's own logic we should lynch him just for that. Disfo having a super long filter was a mitigating factor. You see how I'm taking things into account, and what not. | ||
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On June 21 2017 16:03 Tumblewood wrote: tbh i've seen like 10 posts from him since i said i disliked him. not particularly bad posts, mind you. how about i filter him now and then telll you He was in a big Rels shit fight recently. | ||
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Then we'll all kill Palmar. | ||
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Did he say something stupid? | ||
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On June 22 2017 03:42 ruXxar wrote: I feel like it's a deja vu. Commenting on new votes. The ultimate scum tell. | ||
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On June 22 2017 03:37 sicklucker wrote: also the reason mafia thinks they can get away with voting me is probably because disinfo is voting me and maybe palmar who are both towns and started this wagon. once again its the guys late on the wagon and not the bad people who vote me for bad reasons like hf Chez rels grack skyx? mafia team probably it makes sense why a weak mafia team in there spot would stick together and yolo here Why are your reads always that the mafia team is conspiring to get you? Is this seriously your thought process? First the night kills were made to frame you, and now the entire mafia team is stacking their votes on you? | ||
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On June 22 2017 02:47 ruXxar wrote: The short of it is this: Vote logic tells me that grack and SL are not the same faction. Who you believe is more scummy is up to you. I hate this. | ||
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On June 22 2017 04:09 sicklucker wrote: I think this was my best post in the game the doubters should reread it You don't vote Koshi because Koshi obviously wasn't going to be the lynch. | ||
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Not voting Koshi is just not something that clears you from pushing through a day 1 lynch for the first time ever when scum is in danger of being lynched. | ||
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Continuing on this - anyone that spends the next day arguing that SL needs to die because of vote logic from today's vote has to go. | ||
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SL is almost always completely useless on day 1. That's why HF first started yelling at him at the end of the day. | ||
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If I'm town and I get lynched, which is probably what will happen, why would Sicklucker gaining some votes matter? Even if SL ends up getting lynched, is scum really going to go out of their way to save me when I'm pretty clearly going to get lynched in this game anyway? There is no logic. | ||
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On June 22 2017 04:21 Fecalfeast wrote: Did someone unvote grack or something i thought grack hit 6 votes first why is sl in the lead It seems like they're fixing errors in the voting thread. | ||
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On June 22 2017 04:35 Blazinghand wrote: hey Grack if you beg for your life and admit I'm the best I might vote SL instead of you NEVER | ||
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On June 17 2017 01:59 Eversince wrote: And I think it shouldn't matter so much on who I followed to begin with. If you want to say I'm mafia for voting blind, say that. But don't say I did/didn't do it because of some read I was holding onto after my first post in thread at deadline was that I was at a point where my opinion didn't matter. I had a vote and it was either blind or no-vote. How is this the dude lecturing me for not being clear enough in my choice of Annul over Xatalos. | ||
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You guys are both being delusional. | ||
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On June 21 2017 18:56 beentheredonethat wrote: I have headache regarding Grack. His filter gives me the impression that he has read the game and has full information. But it's only 4 pages long. That's super mafia LIES I DIDN'T READ SHIT!!!!!! YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. | ||
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On June 22 2017 04:54 Blazinghand wrote: I'll save you kohai ##vote Grackaroni Your turn Grack, beg! Beg! WITHOUT ME YOU HAVE NOBODY TO DISTRACT FROM YOUR SHIT POSTING | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:00 Blazinghand wrote: a fair point, but now even if I switch back to SL you are dead this is in fact actually my fault; if I had voted SL first, rayn voting you wouldn't do anything. YOU BASTARD. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:02 Blazinghand wrote: YES. I SEALED YOUR FATE (unless you flip town, in which case, it was rayn's fault) ENTIRELY RESPONSIBLE | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:12 sicklucker wrote: it really is probably the most entertaining game I ever played. I cant believe how hard I baited mafia into going after me today. I didnt even have to use all the tricks I had prepared . I even warned them this would happen =[ I refuse to believe that you are this delusional. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:13 sicklucker wrote: haha I bet mafia are all talking in qt about how bad I played and how they are going to get me lynched If RuXxar is mafia... probably. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:14 VayneAuthority wrote: well there isnt much to make a case out of for either. SL because he managed to lead a lynch on annul over xat grack based on his voting pattern thats about it for concrete stuff. Anything else is objective fluff it would be a shitty lynch if it was consolidated but it should give us good info either way What I dislike about you is that you make smart posts, but you act like you're completely above everything that is happening. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:18 sicklucker wrote: i am still like slighly worried because I know ff is addicted to shenanigans and I wont be here at deadline Also Blazinghand will be given power again. And you won't be here to beg. I have the best begs. There's going to be so much begging. People are going to get tired of hearing it quite honestly. We have such fantastic judges. BLAZINGHAND, one of the great mafia players - maybe too great of a mafia player really - will be listening. And there's going to be so much begging. These are the great people. I mean truly great people. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:23 sicklucker wrote: man grack is acting so scummy. if he was town he would care more. hes having way too much fun I know when I'm fucked. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Grack, 1 or 2? ? | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:23 Blazinghand wrote: ??? what kind of logic is this, i'm having fun YOUR'E NEXT, SON. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:27 sicklucker wrote: sure but if you were grack and about to be mislynched and maybe lose town the game would you be having that much fun? Uh..... yeah. I halfassed this game but I legitimately don't see any town reads. You're off being a crazy person arguing that the last 4 people to vote you are the scum team. Everyone is certain it's me based off a vote I probably wouldn't even make as scum, and I haven't seen all that much analysis outside of me being scum. I have no clue what the fuck Rayn was arguing about with Rels, but if he truly believes it he's going to have to do a better job of explaining it. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:30 VayneAuthority wrote: I disagree with both of those things, I am literally playing this game as dry as possible. I might have made like one condescending post this game I don't mean condescending. You're just so removed from everything that's happening like you're already in the obs QT. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wanna know if i take whisky or beer. Is that dependent on my alignment? | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:35 Blazinghand wrote: hmmm I'd definitely have a fire under my ass Hey what's the ETA on that post game analysis? | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:38 Grackaroni wrote: ##Unvote: ##Vote: PALMAR IT BEGINS | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:50 Palmar wrote: In Vivax we trust Last game you called him a trash can. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:53 sicklucker wrote: looks like mafia are moving for post flip cred boys ;p I WANT NAMES | ||
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No scum claim. I just knew that I'm getting the votes today and this way is more fun for me. | ||
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On June 22 2017 05:53 sicklucker wrote: looks like mafia are moving for post flip cred boys ;p Weren't you super sure that the team was: Grackaroni, Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo? | ||
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On June 22 2017 06:02 sicklucker wrote: yes I wanted people to think I was scum this game. its ok That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I've got to go. GG and don't get bitchy after I die because the analysis put into this day was as shitty as my play. | ||
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Well, you'll have to show off your skills again tomorrow. I don't see the night kill coming. | ||
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On June 22 2017 06:41 Eversince wrote: I'm going to vote Grack if that wasn't obvious enough from my filter. I was hoping SL had more to say, I'm not impressed. But I'm pretty sure they are both mafia. And I feel like SL can get a fire lit under him since he did jack all D2/D3 now. Also that Grack made very clear yesterday/ today that he has no intentions of playing this game. Again, I hate hypocrites. -Spends her whole time grilling me about the reasoning behind my vote. -Voted for Annul because it was either blind or no-vote. And then bitches that I didn't answer her questions in a satisfactory way. | ||
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On June 22 2017 06:47 Eversince wrote: Differences being D1 I was very open and honest about where I was at and why I was voting the way I did. If you can't see the reasons that I'm voting the way I am now, the RTFT. I haven't once "bitched" about what you said. I just interpreted it and said what I thought that made you. Maybe I'm being hard on you. I answered your questions for my vote reasoning on Annul. Then after I explain my reasoning you ask for a second reason. Then you say that I should have talked more about it earlier. And then you complained about the way I was answering your questions. I think things like that are just ridiculous since you gave no reasoning at all for your own vote on Annul. | ||
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On June 22 2017 07:03 Chezitwo wrote: Like, you really just dig your own grave with shit like this. I mean if I am an idiot and you are mafia that is totally fine but if you aren't and Sicklucker is scum then this has to be one of the dumbest moves I have seen in a long time. I'm just being honest. I'm not all that upset that I'm being lynched and I like fucking around with Blazinghand. | ||
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I did not claim mafia. | ||
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Force Palmar to play. I don't think you should even look at who voted where in the Grackaroni-SL wagon. | ||
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On June 22 2017 07:52 disformation wrote: well on one hand i dont think so... on the other: why not post that stuff earlier? -.- That's what I've been saying for a while. I don't have any good reads this game. | ||
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