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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 31 2017 19:15 GMT
#29
/in
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 04 2017 13:29 GMT
#60
We all blame jat.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 08 2017 09:54 GMT
#84
lol hi guys.

Sorry that post was really long can we get a TLDR?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 01:17 GMT
#161
Good chat. I say we kill Plumbo.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 18:25 GMT
#588
The strangest thing in thread is the amount of people agreeing with HF's conclusion that Koshi is 3rd party not red based on this(?) opening:

On June 14 2017 08:01 Koshi wrote:
I am not mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 18:37 GMT
#603
On June 15 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:25 Grackaroni wrote:
The strangest thing in thread is the amount of people agreeing with HF's conclusion that Koshi is 3rd party not red based on this(?) opening:

On June 14 2017 08:01 Koshi wrote:
I am not mafia.


Wasn't it disfos argument

You're right it was disfo's argument. I got HF from Koshi's filter.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 18:57 GMT
#615
On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on.
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

but as fefe pointed out:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.


For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 19:08 GMT
#634
On June 15 2017 04:08 Holyflare wrote:
Oh boy I feel a shit fight occuring.

YOU ARE NOT PREPARED
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 19:10 GMT
#637
On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on.
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

but as fefe pointed out:
On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.


For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.


who do you think is scum?

I'm kinda looking at you tbh.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 19:11 GMT
#641
On June 15 2017 04:09 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
Remind me not to join big games again, just a headache really.


20 person game is a "big game"

=(

With some of the spammers we have in this game, this game could end up longer than the 130 player game that VA was quoting.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 19:38 GMT
#667
On June 15 2017 04:27 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:
@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on.
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

but as fefe pointed out:
On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Care to elaborate?

Oh also ##vote ruxxar


Sure.

This post:

On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself.

Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground.

I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect.


For the second part:

People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads.

Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read.

Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote.


who do you think is scum?

I'm kinda looking at you tbh.


Look at me as much as you like, but why?

I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 20:19 GMT
#692
On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

^
This.

Now people are killing him because he said his top town read was Sicklucker.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 20:23 GMT
#695
On June 15 2017 05:22 Koshi wrote:
and don't take it the wrong way Grack but you are being way too prudent and smart. Like... I love the content of you posts a lot but you don't venture in unknown territory yet.

New territory.

Know-it-all Grack.

I can no longer hide my GENIUS.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 21:00 GMT
#722
On June 15 2017 05:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

^
This.

Now people are killing him because he said his top town read was Sicklucker.

Who is voting him for that reason?

That was the impression I got.

The closest I could find was you pressuring him over the read and other people calling him out for too easily believing SL's cop claim.

Looking over, the main reason people are scum reading him is over saying that he liked Disfo's post, which was kind of a strange post to like because it had no content.

But I don't think this is a bad response at all for the post that he made:

On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


It's not the content as much as the tone and structure.
Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern.

I'd give that a slight town read.


I don't think he's mafia. He has a confidence to his posts that I like.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 21:01 GMT
#724
On June 15 2017 03:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:25 Grackaroni wrote:
The strangest thing in thread is the amount of people agreeing with HF's conclusion that Koshi is 3rd party not red based on this(?) opening:

On June 14 2017 08:01 Koshi wrote:
I am not mafia.

Who quoted this post as evidence? Pretty standard opener

And I missed this question from earlier, it was Disfo's thought process.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 21:09 GMT
#731
On June 15 2017 06:08 Tumblewood wrote:
why are so many people voting koshi rn? he seems pretty townie from what i've seen

Holyflare push.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 22:34 GMT
#774
I'm sensing a lot of salt in the vicinity of Palmar.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 14 2017 22:36 GMT
#775
I like Rayn too though. And I'm ok with a Disfo lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 15 2017 01:15 GMT
#794
Now things are tough because the only people I listen to are Rayn and Tumblewood. A conundrum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 15 2017 21:54 GMT
#1365
Sorry today was a shitty day for me.

I'm going to focus on the main wagons.
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